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Brown wants British football team at 2012 Olympics



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Published Date: 23 August 2008
PRIME Minister Gordon Brown today spoke of his hope that a Team UK football team could compete in the 2012 Olympics.
Britain has not entered a soccer side in the Olympics since 1960, partly because of fears it could jeopardise the future of the individual England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Irish national sides.

But speaking from Beijing, Mr Brown, a keen football fan, said he would be "surprised" if a team from the UK would not compete on home soil in 2012.

He told Sky News: "I hope there will be a team by 2012. It will be Team UK. I hope we can get an agreement on that.

"I think when people are looking at the Olympics in 2012 – Britain, home of football, where football was invented, which we gave to the world – I think people would be very surprised if there is an Olympic tournament in football and we are not part of it."

Mr Brown said he had talked with Sepp Blatter, president of world football's governing body FIFA to discuss the situation..

"I am determined to work with the football associations and the Olympic Committee to ensure that when we come to 2012 we have a men's football team and we have a women's football team playing," Mr Brown said.

The SNP's sport spokesman in Westminster Pete Wishart said: "This is a spectacular own goal for Brown.

"He is out of touch with the overwhelming views of football supporters throughout the UK.

"All the national supporters groups oppose this move and see it as a threat to the status of their nations to field independent football squads.

"Not only do all the national supporters associations oppose such a move but the majority of football associations in the UK have said they do not want to take part in a single UK team as it could threaten their existence within FIFA.

"Instead of trying to brow beat the SFA, the IFA and the Football Association of Wales into a single team Gordon Brown should abandon his campaign which threatens the identity of each of the home associations and their national squads."

England footballer David Beckham said he believed football deserved its place in the Olympics despite the controversy over whether clubs should be forced to release players for the tournament.

He added: "For me, football is the best sport in the world so for me it should be top of the list.

"There are so many other great sports and so many other athletes who have worked so hard to get here, but it's still important.

"There are great players and great teams over here so it's still my number one sport, whether or not it is looked at as different."

He also left the door open to possibly playing for Great Britain in the 2012 Olympic football tournament.

He said: "I will be 37 so I'm not sure I will still be playing. But you never know, at the end of day I'm just going to be happy to be involved.

"I will definitely be there, but whether it's playing or not I'm not so sure about that one."

The full article contains 531 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 23 August 2008 4:27 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: London Olympics 2012
 
1

Soup kitchen,

23/08/2008 14:23:25
This is an excellent idea.

I have been enjoying watching Team GB in the olympics and glad we have a bit naitonal pride about us.

I would be opposed to a British team in the World cup, but at the Olympics it's the correct decision.
2

Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 14:25:03
Brown is an idiot. We do not want a team gb full stop.His relentless grovelling is an embarrassment to Scotland.
How many times do the stupid unionists have to be told none of the "home" countries are willing to risk jeopardising the independence of our national sides.
3

Colkitto,

River Clyde 23/08/2008 14:28:26
I really can't wait until this embarrassment is humiliated from office !
4

danielrober,

23/08/2008 14:39:53
I'd like to have seen Team GB in football.

In fact its a bit boring of some international football associations block it. After all more exposure of the sport must be good for everyone. Oh well maybe some of them are just intimidated by the Olympics.
5

JayDeeTee,

23/08/2008 14:47:12
It is irrelevant what Brown says. He will be well gone by then. anyway, Team GB = England. Very few people in the world distinguish between England and Britain/ UK.
6

nursiebill,

glasgow 23/08/2008 14:52:28
how many times do these idiots need to be told no, we dont want a team GB and we dont need a team GB. Whatever FIFA/UEFA say this would affect the idividual nations, there are too many football associations around the world who want a GB team in the world cup and this would be the first step to this.
7

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23/08/2008 14:53:16
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23/08/2008 14:56:24
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MacGillicuddy,

23/08/2008 15:05:56
Broon's comments are a total irrelevance. Scotland will be well down the road of independence by 2012.

For a politician who constantly claims " to be listening" he clearly has a problem. The football associations in these islands do no want a GB team.
End of story.

Broon's next vision please!!
10

MacGillicuddy,

23/08/2008 15:11:22
#8
You have made an unfounded allegation against ALL SNP voters, which is legally actionable and which has now been reported.
11

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23/08/2008 15:15:36
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Soup kitchen,

23/08/2008 15:18:12
What is the legal action you tit?

I will sue you, you plonker, under health and safety laws for making me fall of my chair laughing.

You have no education to speak of, all users are anonymous on this forum.

Let's recap, you can defame someone who is anonymous for belonging to a group of people (voters) whose most notable feature is their anonymity?

You really are thick as f**k.
13

MacGillicuddy,

23/08/2008 15:20:20
#11
Your defamatory remark is aimed at #5 who is a real person.
14

Soup kitchen,

23/08/2008 15:23:47
13

They are anonymous you tit.

How can you defame someone who nobodies knows who they are?

Yes, m'lawd, my status in society was reduced following that remark.

How did people know who you were? Um

In what way did it actually effect you in any way? Um
15

MacGillicuddy,

23/08/2008 15:24:44
#14
I think you should seek help for it.
16

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23/08/2008 15:26:03
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Ugly George,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 15:26:25
Pete Wishart is being deliberately deceitful. This is not Gordon Brown's decision. The requirement for a GB football team was made by FIFA president, Sepp Blatter.
Back in 2005 he stated, in writing, that GB as host nation have to provide a football team but he has also stated, in writing, that this will not compromise the integrity of the 4 football associations. In other words the separate status of the 4 associations has been guaranteed by FIFA.
Pete Wisharts comments are therefore a malicious distortion
18

MacGillicuddy,

23/08/2008 15:27:25
#16
Yes you really do need help!
19

Embra Don,

23/08/2008 15:28:12
13 MacGillicuddy

Don't rise to the bait of that unionist troll. Hes just trying to obscure the argument as usual. Refugee from the Daily Mail.
20

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23/08/2008 15:28:46
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MacGillicuddy,

23/08/2008 15:32:20
#19
No worries I am not going to. But she really does need to seek psychological help, and soon.
22

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23/08/2008 15:33:35
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23/08/2008 15:36:48
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PoI2,

23/08/2008 15:37:14
# 17
Nowhere in the quotes attributed to Wishart does he say the matter of a GB team is Gordon's Brown decision. He says GB is trying to "brow beat" the associations opposed to such a team. This is fair comment and in no way deceitful.
You should also know that it is not in Sepp Blatter's powers to require GB to enter a team in the Olympics either.
25

Soup kitchen,

23/08/2008 15:37:25
Oh god, are you going to sue for that one too?
26

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 15:51:50
24 Pol2
Sepp Blatter and FIFA seem to feel that it is within their power and the are the world governing body on football so who are you and I to argue.
If you are saying that Pete Wishart is not being deceitful then why is he claiming that Gordon Brown has "scored an own goal" when the decision is not his.
Also there is no evidence that the associations opposed have been "brow beaten" FIFA have stated that it is up to the 4 associations. The team can be from all four or from one only - Fifa doesn't mind. Th FA in England have said they are happy either way. Where is the "brow- beating" apart from in the contrived imagination of nationalists.
27

Brian Hill,

23/08/2008 15:54:58
When you are in a hole stop digging. I would have thought Gordon was well aware of that by now.

However, General Election 2010, Cameron PM, Miliband leader of the opposition. 2010 YES vote in referendum, Scotland ready to negotitate terms for Independence, UK over in all but name. 2012 Olympics, Scottish and English/Welsh/N.I. footbal teams.....sorted.
28

eric,

23/08/2008 15:56:43
The team would be all English players anyway ,
29

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 15:59:14
27 Brian Hill
Modesty is not your strong point is it. Not only do you presume to speak for all the people in Scotland, you presume to speak for all of those in Wales and Northern Ireland as well.
30

GM,

23/08/2008 16:28:11
Methinks 'Soup Kitchen' will have to think up a new username soon.

(and not for the first time)
31

chico y,

23/08/2008 16:32:19
Ooh how exciting, a british football team, rule brittania. Such a good idea, lets keep the union.

I'm convinced now, especially with quality unionist arguments above. That Soup Kitchen person is really clever. And the thing he does missing out letters in swear words, wow !
32

chico y,

23/08/2008 16:36:57
No British football team.
No Gordon Brown
No Liebore
No Union

The futures bright. Waken up Scotsman and you might
sell more papers.
33

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 16:42:17
Oooh, get Soup Kitchen I wonder what her real name is.
34

PoI2,

23/08/2008 16:43:54
26 Ugly George
Whether or not Gordon Brown has scored a metaphorical own goal is a matter of opinion not fact. Where is the deceit in saying that it is?
The fact that Great Britain's participation in Olympic football is not Brown's decision to make is irrelevant. He is clearly trying to influence the issue. You can argue if the prime minister's comments amount to brow beating but it is not reasonable to say that Peter Wishart has been deceitful.
35

Waspy100,

23/08/2008 16:45:43
Aye right Gordon
The minute Great Britain enters a team in the Olympics it will mean the end of the four nations as independent national teams.
When Scotland gets independence of course the problem would disappear as far as we are concerned.
The other three might be sweating a wee bit.

Slainte
36

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 16:47:08
Do you think the Wembly crowd will be singing 'Britain!' or 'UK' perhaps? Judging by the way they failed to get behind Murray at Wimbledon,any Scots in the team may be in for a booing. Hopefully we'll be out of the union by then, anyway, and we can send our own team.
37

Weegiewarbler,

Still Afloat 23/08/2008 16:58:35
#17 - By Ugly George - You said

"This is not Gordon Brown's decision. The requirement for a GB football team was made by FIFA president,
Sepp Blatter.
Back in 2005 he stated, in writing, that GB as host nation have to provide a football team but he has also stated, in writing, that this will not compromise the integrity of the 4 football associations. In other words the separate status of the 4 associations has been guaranteed by FIFA."


In actuality - FIFA has no authority over what member organizations do in this respect - they can say this is how you will compete - yes - but they can not REQUIRE a nation to compete.
Any nation can boycott any sporting event for any real or imaginary reason (Olympics a good example) and have by precedent with no consequences.

Why would anyone try to force another (individual or nation) to do something against it's will. The individual FA's have said NO, NO, and NO - the English FA - well, maybe.

So you field a team of Englishmen and call it Team GB.
As dearly as this sport is held by the nations of the Briitish Isles you will only contrive to create division, disharmony and discontent.

A spectacular "own goal" for anyone wishing to operate on the mandate of the people.

It would appear as this is still (reported to be) a democracy that if three of four (that's 75%) of the NATIONS are against it - it should be a DEAD ISSUE.

Otherwise - let's have the other nations compete individually.

By the way - no national flags thinggy - that was an English proposed rule that was initiated after the Irish with the help of other nations thoroughly EMBARRASSED them at the turn of the last century in an early olympics.
38

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 17:05:09
#38 And here we have the famouse 'white van man'.
Maybe we should boycott the thing over the English government's lack of respect for international law in invading other nations. But then we wouldn't get to see Murray vs Eaton in the first round. Wonder who'd win that. The relay team might do well too- if they remember the baton.
39

Duke,

23/08/2008 17:38:42
The fans dont want it, Sepp Blatter says this

FIFA supremo Sepp Blatter stated in March that entering a Team GB football team will "....put into question all the privileges that the British associations".
40

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23/08/2008 17:42:17
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Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 17:43:07
Mesmiths,

I love the way you Scots cherry pick the bits of history to suit your warped minds

,"Maybe we should boycott the thing over the English government's lack of respect for international law in invading other nations"

Didnt we have a Scottish Prime Minister, Chancellor, and defense secretary at the time of the Iraqi, Afgan invasions?? oh, you forgot about them didnt you?? how convenient, just how dumb are you?

As for Andy Murry`s display in the Olympics, I know he was in team GB, but the text messages I recieved laughing at him, and hoping he was going to lose was staggering, even my Scottish mates loathe the man and think he was a disgrace with that display in the Olympics, we really, really are going to miss him and his ilk in future games arnt we....NOT. keep your Scottish No 1, you are welcome to him.



42

subrosa,

23/08/2008 17:44:02
#41

Ooo er. A case of soor plooms methinks.
43

mesmiths,

fie 23/08/2008 17:46:38
#41 you're a funny guy, maybe about 14 years old by the way you construct your little arguments but funny nevertheless.
It would be a bit strange if the English didn't get the majority of medals would it not, seeing as how they make up the vast majority of the team? I think there are people kept at home in Scotland who could quite easily give your lot a kicking in those 'sports' they have done well in. - But come on sailing? horse riding? boxing? canoeing? Who cares? Tennis is a 'proper' sport, as a white van' might say. In that millions of people round the world love it and pay good money to see it. As for Murray I'd rather be shouting about him than Henman for example. We both know it's only a matter of time before he wins his first Australian, French, Wimbledon or US. All you've got is tearful memories of 'Henmania' - now that was a laugh.
44

subrosa,

23/08/2008 17:47:15
Isn't that photo of Gordon Brown just dreadful. I do wish he wouldn't pose for photographs. He's not photogenic. Mind you, neither am I but I've the sense, of photographed, to have it done from a distance :)
45

European Scot,

23/08/2008 17:47:37
41 Happy English

" At least we remembered to get the Majority of the Medals, as for Murray is that all you have to shout about even he does not want an Scottish girlfriend and has gone for a English one and with the likes of Feds and Nads he has no chance."

You clearly have a very high opinion of yourself and of England.
Fortunately most of my very dear English friends have a much healthier cynicism when it comes to such things, than to give any credence to such appalling jingoistic guff.
Try travelling more, who knows it might even widen your narrow little perspective !

Also try 'a Scottish girlfriend' and' an English one', it might help to convince people of your' English' credentials !
46

Boswall,

23/08/2008 17:48:16
Other than the numpty die hards it's pretty obvious that most Scots would be right behind a Team GB footy side.

The Olympics have clearly demonstrated that there's absolutely no ground swell of support for a Team Scotland.

47

Rufus T. Firefly,

23/08/2008 17:49:21
Blanket statements that say "the fans don't want it" are simply incorrect.

Many fans clearly do want it.

I would guess that many of those that do not want it are basing their opinion on political motivation. How sad.

Personally I think it would be a fantastic idea.

48

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 17:59:02
#44 Another comedy master class. Just like the guy calling himself 'happy english' you seem a little bit bitter about the BRITISH NO.1 being a guy from Dunblane. Just try and be happy english.
49

"Hoots" Fandango,

23/08/2008 17:59:19
Hmm. I suppose Happy English's favourite tune isn't
"We are family." What a nasty racist he is. Begone foul fiend.
50

"Hoots" Fandango,

23/08/2008 18:01:44
"Britain has not entered a soccer side in the Olympics since 1960, partly because of fears it could jeopardise the future of the individual England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Irish national sides."

Press Association.

The bit before it states, "Nationalists hit out at Gordon Brown after he restated his hopes that a single British football team could compete at the next Olympics."

Oh the cat's among the pigeons.
51

Mercian,

UK 23/08/2008 18:02:42
Well, instead of pretending to know what the majority want, all I can say is I'd love to see a Team GB / UK football side for the Olympics.

If the home countries' FAs are against the idea, it's probably a good one - as we all what rubbish decisons they make - they're only worried about their own jobs.
52

European Scot,

23/08/2008 18:04:19
44 Peter Baleares

Well now Mr Baleares, as far as I can remember we have never had a 'defense' secretary, that would be an American post.
If you insist on coming here on a Scottish Web site perhaps the use off the appropriate language would be a start. Yes it is English, I acknowledge that. Perhaps it would be helpful if you did too !
It's also 'Afghan' as far as I can remember.
As for Andy Murray, well here is a young man who needs to come to terms with his own temperament, and harnessing that to his game, but not his Nationality.
He's a Scot and proud of it, what exactly are you ?
53

nursiebill,

23/08/2008 18:04:42
51
"most fans clearly want it" where is your evidence to support that because the last i heard the scottish supporters association had came out against the idea as had their english counterparts. The english general public probably would support it, but in my own experience having lived their for 15 years, most of them consider england and GB to be the same thing.
54

Rufus T. Firefly,

23/08/2008 18:07:09
Andy Murray is 20/1 to be sports personality of the year.

If he was 200/1 I still would not put any money on him.
55

nursiebill,

23/08/2008 18:09:37
where on earth does this english dislike of Andy Murrray come from, is it jealousy cos he is miles better tham their preciuos timmy wimmy ever was?
56

"Hoots" Fandango,

23/08/2008 18:10:14
I've got a fiver on Rufus T Firefly as poster of the year.

I've also got a fiver on that Soup Kitchen's heading for an early bath.
57

"Hoots" Fandango,

23/08/2008 18:12:25
Subrosa

"He's not photogenic."

Everybody's nightmare is to resemble the passport photograph.
58

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 18:14:25
#57 neither would I he's Scottish and obviously so. He's certainly not 200/1 to win the US open and you'd be lucky get anything like 20/1 on him to win it. I wonder which contest is the most important.
59

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 18:17:47
What Broon wants and what Broon gets are not exactly the same thing.

I am against a GB football team full stop. Should one appear for 2012, I shall devote the same amount of time to watching it as I have to watching this Olympic games.

ie zilch.
60

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 18:21:19
Incidentally, on a pro rata basis, if Scotland won 3 golds then England should have won 33. Eh no truely english?
61

Rufus T. Firefly,

23/08/2008 18:29:25
Andy Murray has no chance in the US open.

He may be the world number 6, but the gulf in quality between him and Nadal is wider than 5 Alex Salmonds standing side by side (i.e. Huge).
62

inkster,

23/08/2008 18:29:52
Gordon is demob happy
63

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 18:32:11
Please do, Janis B @64. England is still far short of 33.

64

FrancesP,

23/08/2008 18:32:20
If anyone is tempted to think this a harmless one-off idea that would have no repercussions for Scotland's separate international status at other events, they should take a look at the increasingly bizarre pronouncements on this topic by Sepp Blatter. Having smugly insisted for ages that the SFA were worrying over nothing, he then casually mentioned a few months ago that FIFA might well take a single British Olympic team as a green light for a similar arrangement for the World Cup. In other words, precisely the concern the SFA had been expressing all along. Blatter is a clown, and any reassurances he gives are not worth the paper they're written on. As for Craig Reedie, Simon Clegg and all the other neanderthals at the British Olympic Association, they hardly even bother to conceal their British nationalist political agenda. I get the distinct impression Reedie would even like to strip Scotland of our separate Commonwealth Games team that we've had since 1930!
65

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 18:39:26
65, Rufus. My opinion of Murray is that he is still a whining brat, struggling to end his adolescence. Wait till he's 23/24 and Nadal has retired from tennis through injury before dismissing him.
66

Waspy100,

23/08/2008 18:40:42
#54 Mercian.
Unfortunately it is not what the home countries want it is other footballing nations who do not want four independent "countries" playing under the same flag (so to say)
They think we should be a UK team and done with it.
Sepp Blatter has been a leading instigator of this as he does not like the power British FA.s hold in world football
67

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 18:43:58
Huhahu gudun Dufus the old alex salmond is fat gag- pure genius. We'll see about Murray- we both know his chances are somewhat better 'no chance'. And if he dosn't get it this time it won't be too much longer.
68

Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 18:54:27
I don't knoiw a single Scot who would be happy with team gb football team, there is NO british in football. Sepp Blatters reasurances are as reasuring as Blair and Bushs reasons for going to war. And anyway, you think Blatter owns FIFA? he will go eventually then what?
If there is a team gb I will actively go and support AGAINST it in a kilt with my saltire.
You ridiculous unionists should stick to failing politics and leave football to the football fans.
69

Rufus T. Firefly,

23/08/2008 18:56:40
Nadal is less than a year older than Murray. He is a supreme athlete unlike Murray who always seems to be sick and calling off from tournaments.

Out of the two, its more than likely that the psychotic Murray would retire first.
70

Rufus T. Firefly,

23/08/2008 18:59:13
Bzz what nonsense.

Clearly you need to widen your circle of friends.
71

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 19:06:17
72, Bzzzz. The same feedback through general talk around here. Football Team GB is a no no.
72

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 19:12:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldeekwnev8

Rufus, they're playing your song here.
73

Stars in your eyes,

23/08/2008 19:18:34
I agree we should have a British footbal team. I'd have:

GORDON

HUTTON
CALDWELL
MCMANUS
WHITTAKER


HARTLEY
FERGUSON
MCFADDEN
MILLER

O'CONNOR
BOYD

Bench:
LAMPARD
GERRARD
GIGGS
HEALY

and of course ALEX FERGUSON as manager, and HARRY REDKNAPP as bucket and sponge man.

No seriously - they should bring back the Home internationals for 2012 and the winning team goes to the Olympics as British representatives.
74

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European Scot,

23/08/2008 19:34:07
78 Peter Baleares

Fair enough, you got me on a typo !
Poetic justice for sure, now how about the rest of it ? !
76

AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 19:42:07
Isn't it aboot time aw right minded English, Scots, Welsh and Irish fitba supporters grouped together to tell Broon tae sling his hook!

Never trust a 'son o' the manse'!!
77

mesmiths,

fife 23/08/2008 19:52:48
#80 Easy now, Janis B, there's only so much suspense and excitment I can take. Let's just say England is the best and let us all off. Even if it is at such non events as sailing and rowing- you forgot all the horse riders, maybe that'll get you there.
78

Beergoggles,

England 23/08/2008 19:53:21
English golds? Scottish golds? Jeez...

The cycling golds were all Australian anyway as the coach is an Aussie ;)

It was a great team effort.
79

AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 20:02:36
Is Janis B the original Janis, who occasionally holidays in the west of Scotland?
80

weh,

23/08/2008 20:10:11
Headline SHOULD read:-

Labour party wants to dissolve Scottish football team and replace with BRITISH football team!

Think the Scots "papers" will headline this?

No? Thought not!
81

AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 20:12:43
Hi Janis,

Still defending the empire then, eh?

It's maybe a futile effort, but you do it in an extremely cheery way! ;)
82

AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 20:22:32
Janis,

When they come knocking for mair dosh, will you hire a hitman to knock off old Boris?

Don't envy you the next four years, the budget is half the Beijing 'lympics, but I bet it eventually costs double! :(

Perhaps you should move oot tae the sticks right now! :)
83

Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 20:22:46
Hi Janis,

How`s London?
I`ve been happy shouting for Team GB, but I`d love a Team England more, and settle for a couple of medals less.

Hi AJ,

Sepp Blatter has a snake`s tongue, and not to be trusted. I think you are right, football fans do not want a Team GB.

European Scot,
There was no `rest of it`, you snagged my spelling, and gave your opinion of Andy Murray.

84

Lianachan,

Highlands 23/08/2008 20:27:31
Everybody I know, who's discussed it at all, is vigorously opposed to a British football team.
85

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 20:28:30
What about the threat to the Scottish Football Association's unique articles of association with FIFA which allow it to field a Scottish National Team?

The Northern Ireland and Wales Associations are also concerned about the danger of losing their unique and separate status as footballing nations.

The best solution would be if the Football Association of England fielded a team of its own registered players under the GB banner.

This would allow all four Home Nations to then continue competing in their own national right.

86

Jock Tamson,

23/08/2008 20:29:37
Quod erat demonstrandum, Janis @84? Don't even need to check the totals because I don't even care.

Summer sports were never appealing to me. To include winter sports (or any of the traditional professional sports) in a summer olympics is even less appealing to me.
87

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 20:45:45
Thing that gets me about the Olympics is the lengths aspiring nations go to in order to secure a tenure and win medals.

Note the word nations. Not individuals.

It is almost always the nations with the most imperialistic tendencies who are up there.
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 20:46:30
Janis,

They should be using the old White City stadium anyway, if it's still there. Just think of the dosh that could be saved! :)
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/08/2008 20:47:13
Night night, Jonis
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Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 20:49:25
Mr Lachie Todd,

How about an under 23s + 2 competition held the year before, with the winner of the four nations putting its team forward as the Team GB representatives, and allowing them three months together, (before Argentina go on to win the gold again anyway) and the rest of us supporting them wherever they are from, keeping the integrity of the four nations in tact.
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WL,

livingston 23/08/2008 20:56:53
If Brown wants a "Team UK", why was there only a "Team GB" this year ?????????????
But I would like to see, in addition to a "Team UK" (whoever wants to be in that) also a "Team Scotland".
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European Scot,

23/08/2008 21:00:11
91 Peter Baleares

" I`ve been happy shouting for Team GB, but I`d love a Team England more, and settle for a couple of medals less."

Disagree on the first part , but certainly agree on the latter.

" Sepp Blatter has a snake`s tongue, and not to be trusted. I think you are right, football fans do not want a Team GB."

Tend to agree on that one.

Apart from your unnecessary personal comments, I tend to agree with most of what you have stated.

There was that final question of, what are you ?
English, Spanish, Scottish, or would the answer simply be mind your own........!!

I just wonder why someone in Palma would appear to be rather anti Scottish.
Independence is a perfectly reasonable aspiration for both England and Scotland.
As for snagging your spelling, well old habits die hard, in my early career I was in fact a teacher !
Next time I'll hold fire, as well as taking a little more care with my typing !
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 21:05:02
Janis,

They could let their imaginations run riot! I'd plump for 10,000 pearly kings and queens scoffing jars of jellied eels, to the sound of Chas and Dave at the opening ceremony!

That widnae cost too much! How much are jellied eels these days?
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Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 21:05:56
Leave football alone Brown, you're not one of us, you sold your soul a long time ago, as far as I'm concerned you are not welcome in my country you can stay in London! just stick to ruining the uk economy then we can vote ourselves out of the union and this ridiculous idea will no longer exist. Numpty.

#87 you are exactly right, but of course the unionists control the media here so that'll never be the title!
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fergiewergie,

23/08/2008 21:08:08
http://www.noteamgb.com/

The people that matter, e.g. the England, Wales, Scotland & NI supporters associations are all against it.

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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 21:11:01
Hi Peter,

You'd better run up a white flag the noo. European Scot has your number and his red pen at the ready! :)


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8/10 Cats,

23/08/2008 21:11:06
I think Team GB for football at the Olympics is a great idea.

There is a real buzz about town. Great Britain is doing well and can be proud of herself. The Olympic successes have been long overdue.

Maybe we can get over this silly Labour idea that eilitism is bad and actually start investing in talent in all walks of life. If you don't waste money on idiots and averageness you achieve much, much more.
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 21:13:06
Janis,

Not as delicious though! Do you buy the eels or do you catch your own?
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 21:15:42
#109,

What's your Olympic sport - BMX, skateboarding or spacehoppering?

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8/10 Cats,

23/08/2008 21:27:22
111 AJ

I did enjoy the BMX races, didn't see the Skateboarding and never heard of the other one.

British pride has really been bolstered by success. I think the British team is a stronger unified identity at prestigious world events like the Olympics.
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 21:29:23
Janis,

It could be argued that veggie haggis is a better bet than the real stuff. Let's face it, it's no for everybody, the lottery of non-descript grisley bits from, whatever animal's nether regions! :)

Jings, must remember to put ma weekly order intae the local butchers!!
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 21:35:17
8/10 Cats,

The spacehoppering is to be introduced at the 2012 Olympics. It'll take a format similar to the 110m hurdles, but there'll be strict regulations on the air pressure of each space hopper. But unlike Irish horses, you canny inject the space hopper with performance enhancing drugs.......cos they'll jist burst!

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Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 21:46:27
European Scot,

I apologize for the personal remarks, it wont happen again.

I am English, and have lived in Spain since 97.
I became fascinated by the world through Scottish eyes after reading Andy Murrays "Anyone but England" remark three or four years ago.
I certainly dont hate Scots, far from it, I really like some of the posters on here, and have learned much about Scottish history and its culture, and there are only one or two that I would not want to have a beer with.

I have become more of an English Nationalist in the last few years, and wish that Scotland were independent, its easier for the Scots to leave the Union than England, as we really are the Union somehow, as many posters point out, England,are Britain, wether we like it or not, most Scots recognize this which is why you want out, I think the Welsh and N Irish should also vote on wether they want to continue as part of `England/Britain`. the door should always be open to let them go if they wish.

Once again, Apologies for my attack on you.

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European Scot,

23/08/2008 21:50:42
108 AJ Fife

" You'd better run up a white flag the noo. European Scot has your number and his red pen at the ready! :) "

Thank you AJ, I was thinking more along the lines of a ruler across the knuckles !
Pompous indeed !
As for referring to me as a w....r, well really.
Just because I need to wear glasses !
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AJ Fife,

23/08/2008 22:05:42
European#117,

Glasses/yanking?? Do you have buck teeth and look like a Chinaman as well? If you do, it's a very easy mistake to make! :)
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