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Published Date: 18 July 2007
By TANYA THOMPSON
VULNERABLE children were subjected to "inappropriate and invasive" tests by doctors in breach of "fundamental rules in medicine", a hearing was told yesterday.
Dr Andrew Wakefield, who sparked the MMR controversy, did not have paediatric qualifications and had not worked as a clinical doctor for several years, the General Medical Council's fitness to practise panel was told. His role was as a research doctor and he had no right to investigate the children, it heard.

Dr Wakefield, 50, is charged with serious professional misconduct alongside professors John Walker-Smith and Simon Murch.

The trio, who deny the charge, published a paper in the Lancet in 1998 suggesting a link between the measles, mumps and rubella jab and bowel disease and autism. The hearing continues.



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  • Last Updated: 17 July 2007 10:14 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: MMR vaccine , Autism
 
1

Les Bremner,

Ayrshire 18/07/2007 07:23:32

The key point in this travesty is the fact that the tribunal will not be looking at whether the three accused were correct in their statement about the effect of MMR. Here is an extract ... "The GMC does not regard its remit as extending to arbitrating between competing scientific theories generated in the course of medical research." (ref. http://briandeer.com/wakefield/gmc-notice.htm )

They are being accused of not following procedures. However, if they are struck off, the world will see them as being wrong, and we will all be told that this proves that MMR is safe.

2

hertscot,

real science for real people 18/07/2007 08:56:36

#1 Les,

The validity of the research is based on the methodology employed, if the methodology is flawed, then it is difficult to substantiate the conclusions reached by the researchers. The GMC is right to state it is not deciding which scientific theory is correct.
In fact, from the small sample used by Dr. Wakefield et al. their conclusions should have, and did, prompt further studies which have been carried out correctly, and therefore those findings are considered scientifically valid.

The findings of subsequent research indicate that MMR is safe to use. But like all pharmaceuticals there are, and always will be side effects which could be severe for a small number of patients.

3

Les Bremner,

Ayrshire 18/07/2007 17:20:39

I agree, there will always be side effects from any pharmaceutical. However, the side effects from three pharmaceuticals given at the same time can be greater than three pharmaceuticals given a couple of weeks apart.

Single vaccines are available. We should use them if there is the sightest chance of damaging anyone, especially the very young. Even the smallest number of patients with a severe side effect is unacceptable when there is a very simple way of minimising the risk.

My point, quite simply, was that the results of the tribunal will be twisted and, instead of saying that procedures were not followed, we will be told that the doctors have been struck off, ipso facto MMR is safe.

4

I GAVE BLAIR THE FINGER LAST WEEK,

18/07/2007 18:40:45

i think that the 10 out of 13 were paid off. the government is throwing £3million into reassurung parents of MMRs apparent safety, but it will cost billions if a link is finitely proven as to the autism triggered and caused directly by MMR. even if Wakefield goes down, HE WILL NEVER BE STRUCK OF AS FAR AS THE AUTISTIC KIDS ARE CONCERNED AS HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT SHALL LOOK AT THEM.
As for methadology if you even had aglimmer of what it meant you would not be quouting it.Wakefield has been suplicated in his tests worldwide on several diffrent parts of the worls .Ho w can you argue with the copyrighted strain from the measels vaccine found in the gut and spinal fluid of these poor medical lacking children.

Your arguement is feeble and of the point big time

5

The Fly Fifer,

Fife 18/07/2007 20:13:40

did anyone ever find out if TBlair had his wean given the singles jag or the mmr .......... :-)

6

I GAVE BLAIR THE FINGER LAST WEEK,

18/07/2007 23:14:42

We have a friend who babysat for the Blairs during this time and they never got Leo vaccintated,Good ON THEM BUT WHY MAKE IT COMPULSORY FOR EVERYONE ELSE ?JUST AFTER THIS THE GOVERMENT WITHDREW THE SINGLE MEASELS VACCINATION MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE IN THE UK TO HAVE THE SINGLE VACS UK.WE WOULD NEVER VACCINTATE NOW EVEN WITH SINGLES IF THEY WERE AVAILABLE AND HAVENT AS EVERYONE KNOWS M.M.MR. R.I.P.GOD BLESS ANDREW WAKEFIELD

7

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh UK 18/07/2007 23:46:52

#1 #6 Spot ON!
#6 So the health Minister that came on "news at Ten" in the 1990s and said,
"Look Look my children eating Beefburgers" NO chance they can get CJD "Mad Cow Disease" only to be PROVEN Sooo WRONG a few years later! new the truth all along!
And his children were actually eating veggieburgers!
Dammed lies like now!

8

hertscot,

19/07/2007 07:31:59

#4, I didn't say he hadn't found anything, but proving a point for a compensation case by any means possible is wrong! the study was flawed, children were technically "abused", he misrepresented his findings and openly admited paying for blood samples. Dr Wakefiled is probably a very good researcher but on this occasion he made mistakes in the methodology. His sample size was unrepresentative of the UK population, just a few middle class kids. More expansive studies have been completed involving 1000's not 10's of subjects, and using methodology that if challenged would stand up to intense scrutiny. Pity that Dr Wakefield and his supporters can't say the same.

9

ebbi,

spain 16/02/2009 15:33:46

between 2000 and 2007 the pharmaceutical companies bribed american congressmen by spending 1.5 billion us dollars together with other industries that totaled 13 billion us dollars.now if anyone thinks that us courts and judges and politicians are going to say or do anything against the pharmaceutical companies, keep on dreaming my friends.usa is a country where money has the last word just like our own uk with labour in office. i would not be surprised if very soon the research scientists are not charged with treason!!!!!!!!!
do not believe what you read in the mainstream media.

 

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