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McGhee says he is entitled to enter talks with Hearts



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Published Date: 26 May 2008
MARK McGhee has urged Motherwell to allow him to speak with Hearts about the possibility of taking up the managerial vacancy at Tynecastle, but admits it is by no means a foregone conclusion that he will leave Fir Park this summer.
In his personal column in a Sunday newspaper, McGhee addressed Hearts' official approach to Motherwell to speak to their manager, which the Lanarkshire club turned down within a matter of hours last Friday.

"I made it quite clear when I discussed
the position of Scotland manager with the SFA (earlier this year] that I would not entertain the notion of leaving Fir Park during the season," wrote McGhee. "I kept that promise and am grateful to Hearts for respecting that pledge and not causing any disruption at Motherwell by making a premature approach.

"Now that the season has ended they are within their rights to make a legal approach and I am entitled to hear what they have to say."

However, McGhee also made it clear that owner Vladimir Romanov and his cohorts at Hearts would have to persuade him that it is worth leaving the security of his post at Fir Park for perhaps the most volatile position in Scottish football.

Since Romanov took power in February 2005, seven different managers have taken the reins, including George Burley, who pipped McGhee to the Scotland job in January having left Hearts atop the Premier League in October 2005 after a disagreement with the Lithuania-based banker. Current Tynecastle caretaker Steven Frail is not deemed the man to take the club forward and as such McGhee has become the Gorgie club's No 1 choice to takeover.

"The prospect of leading Motherwell into Europe is a massive incentive for me to stay at Fir Park," added McGhee, who has led the club to a third-placed finish and a Uefa Cup spot in his first season in charge.

"Having the most brilliant bunch of players, a fantastic chairman and supporters who have backed me fully this season will cause me to think long and hard about any decision that I make.

"Hearts are a great football club and any manager would be thrilled at the opportunity to manage them. But their recent issues are well documented and I would require clarification on a number of issues before I could even consider moving."

Motherwell's season ended yesterday with the match against Celtic in tribute to Phil O'Donnell, the club captain who died on the pitch against Dundee United at Fir Park in December. The closure of that emotional chapter may offer McGhee peace of mind that he is not abandoning Motherwell at a sensitive time.

"Whatever happens with Hearts," concluded McGhee, "I will be grateful to so many people at Motherwell for everything they have done this season, and be proud of what the club has achieved in getting a European place in the face of such adversity."



The full article contains 496 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

26/05/2008 00:34:11
Come on Vlad, give him everything he asks for - time to let someone else have a go at picking the team. You've had your fun.
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26/05/2008 00:39:14
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StockportJambo,

26/05/2008 00:45:21
Answers a number of things.

"I kept that promise and am grateful to Hearts for respecting that pledge and not causing any disruption at Motherwell by making a premature approach."

So basically it's what we've all suspected for some time. McGhee is the man that Hearts have wanted all along (and MM knows this), and the sole reason that Frail has been left in charge this long is to respect Motherwell's position... they've had to deal with more important things than mere football this season.

Getting more and more positive about this by the day.
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glen urquhart,

the season belonged to rangers 26/05/2008 00:49:07
With or without McGhee Hearts will remain a joke team until the Romanovs sell up. Their whining conspiracy theories have become tedious beyond belief and it' s time to hit them where it hurts - their pockets.

One decent season with Motherwell fails to prove McGhee a quality manager. Most of his times in charge of clubs in England resulted in failure. He would do well to take Hearts into the top 6 which is hardly an achievement anyway.
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badger,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 00:50:28
seems like things could be taking a turn for the better
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

26/05/2008 01:08:06
#4 "tedious beyond belief" - I saw a game like that recently. In Manchester I think it was.

Anyhow, if even Rangers fans are worried at the thought of McGhee coming to Hearts we should get this deal done. Usually it's just Hibees making those kind of comments.
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numpty,

Dublin 26/05/2008 01:10:58
McGhee has to be the least loyal manager currently in a job. He's prematurely followed the money out of every managerial post he hasn't been sacked from. Whether he ends up at Hearts or not (and it's hard to imagine what sort of job satisfaction he'll get there, big wages or not), he'll probably already be sniffing around at the Celtic job or a move to the EPL by Christmas-- those are the only two moves he *really* wants.
8

Cammy,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 01:16:48
I'm a Hibs supporter and think that McGee would be an excellent addition to Hearts. It does seem that he's interested and that he's will to take the risk.

Whether of course the "Mad One" will be able to work with him is another matter. McGee is looking for a job that will keep him warm until the Celtic post becomes available. He's not exactly hiding his ambitions on that front. Hearts would be a challenge for him, but it's a no lose situation given their history with managers.

A good season for both Hearts and Hibs would be great for Edinburgh. Of course, many "shallow" fans on both sides find it difficult to see this through their short sighted specs.
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glen urquhart,

east kilbride 26/05/2008 01:21:17
#6

Worried about Hearts?

I'll leave that to the likes of Hibs and Falkirk. No offence.

As for Vlad - are you suggesting that you agree with his paranoid rantings?
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26/05/2008 02:42:06
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glen urquhart,

ek 26/05/2008 02:48:17
Our bottles crashing on the final day?

67 games here and in Europe.

Remind me please the excuse for Hearts 22 years ago when they presented the league to Celtic on a plate.
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jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 26/05/2008 03:21:00
#11

I was at Dundee 22 years ago when we lost the league.There was no excuse however perhaps Celtic or St Mirren can explain why Celtic(who had to win by at least 4 clear goals if Hearts got beat to steal the league)where 4 - 0 up at half time.
It stank then it still stinks now.The quicker St Mirren are relegated to the depths of Scottish football(where they belong) the better.
Rangers have done well in respect of being so close to winning 4 trophies this year and I have given them support all the way however to say they played anything other than defensive football and copped a few lucky breaks would be a lie.This style of "football" may get results but it's shi#e to watch.
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jambtastic,

26/05/2008 03:49:24
Motherwell have had a season that cannot be put into words , Bitter/Sweet , God Bless Phill , European tour
However , when Vlad splashes the cash McGhee n Lambert
will have new jobs in June , the needle will return to
the start of the song
The Old Firm n McCurry will sing Along
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Rancho Relaxo,

Melbourne 26/05/2008 06:08:04
#11 - Glen - get over it. You blew it because you didn't win more than 8 or 9 away games all season. You only won once away against any of the top 6. You may have played a few extra games but so did Celtic in 2003 and it cost them too. Dundee Utd also suffered the same fate in the 80s. Hard luck, a club the size of Rangers should still be able to see through a championship from the position they were in.

#12 - Don't want to drag up an old, and pointless, arguement but you forget that the St.Mirren v Celtic result would have been meaningless had Hearts won. Hearts blew it that day, not St Mirren. As for Celtic beating them 5-0 - hardly a rare occurrence.
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UrbanFox,

26/05/2008 06:55:10
Moronov get the finger out and give McGhee the guarantees! You have ruined Hearts with your interference and if McGhee doesnt become manager we will know who to blame. YOU!
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Robert Mason,

Larkhall 26/05/2008 07:04:53
A bad move, Mark. Stay well clear of Tynecastle.
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KeithD,

26/05/2008 07:23:48
Most Jambos would welcome Mark McGhee to Tynecastle and I for one would start going back to see Hearts again after the debacle of the past two years.Romanov listen mate,you've had your wee ego trip and you've embarressed yourself and us fans enough, get McGhee in,give him enough money to build HIS team and you may actually see the debt being eroded with some silver ware into the bargain as well.
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KeithD,

26/05/2008 07:27:00
Oh and one other thing Romanov.....KEEP THE FECK AWAY FROM TEAM AFFAIRS!!!!!!
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 26/05/2008 08:17:27

Honestly, what the hump is going on down Tynecastle way at the moment?

Frail gets the elbow...
McGee looks dead cert to be on board...
Callum 'The Tynie Dancer' Elliot looks set to leave...

I mean you wait all season for one good bit of news and then three come along at once...

You'll still struggle a bit next year if there's not serious investment in the playing side of things, and 12 million 'warchests' aside, ahem... I cant see that happening when there's a very, very expensive new stand to get built...
Course I could be wrong, and next season will prove it one way or another...
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hibbyspurs,

26/05/2008 08:18:10
#2

I would hardly say I or a great many Hibs supporters who "prowl" these forums are "bitter & twisted" but your entitled to your opinion. There a several tubes from both sides though!

Does seem obvious that Hearts may have actually done something right for a change though by leaving McGhee alone until the end of the season and it looks more likely now that you will "get your man", He may have to resign first but that's not unexpected.

He will always have doubts about how much interference may come from above despite any gaurantees but no one will know if Vlads really ready to leave well alone until a proper manager is in place.

If he is appointed it will be interesting to see how much of a transfer budget he actually gets & what level of player he actually signs.

If he is appointed then it could be good for Edinburgh football all round as a real manager at Tynecastle with autonomy over team affairs will undoubtely strengthen Hearts chances of pushing for Europe next season and hopefully this will also give the Hibs board "a shake" and ensure that our manager is given sufficent transfer & wage budget to at least ensure we are challenging with Hearts for that 3rd place next season.
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PROBABLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL TEAM IN THE WORLD,

EVER 26/05/2008 09:09:52
Just goes to show that McGhee is like any other manager, willing to go against his better judgement for the dollar.
Who in their right mind would want to work for Mad Vlad the Mafia Maniac?
Good business for Hearts, they might even finish in the top 6!
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MAROON TOON,

26/05/2008 09:17:51
#8# Got to agree with you, bur right now HMFC need someone to steady the ship, if McGhee is allowed to manage the team even if it is only for a season or two, I for one will take it,

There's very little loyalty in football these days, and I find it quite amusing that the cynics from other clubs come on here having a pop at McGhee's motives, i.e. He's only in it for the money etc! You don't say sherlock! These people should take a look at their own clubs first before having the same old dig at HMFC.

Hearts can't win, been slated quite rightly for the way the club is being run, it would appear that they (Vlad) is trying to address his meddling by appointing a respected manager. Right now HMFC can not do anything right in some people's eyes; just want to stick the boot in. These no it all's should have a look back at their clubs history, guaranteed there will be a period where their club was in serious crisis, being run by incompetent idiot's.
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26/05/2008 09:26:12
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LionheartFodithman,

26/05/2008 09:44:11
The key word in this scenario is ambition.

That last thing Hearts need at the moment is a mercenery after the big buck or being used as a stepping to something better in a couple of years.
If there is any hint of this with the prospective new manager then i would rather he stayed away.

If Vlad has the ambition to take the club forward competing in the top three year in year out then we want a manager who has exactly the same ambition,not a fly by night.

It has been said on more than one occasion by CO that the choice of the next manager is massive for the club in the current climate.I would rather have re-assurances from MM about his ambition and what he can bring to the club than the usual "No Vlad interference" stuff.

Mark McGhee..Its us the supporters that will be paying your hefty wages,what are YOU bringing to the party.
26

Who?,

26/05/2008 09:58:07
The signing of McGhee would be a positive development, however i'm not too sure he is the best person for the job. The guarentees McGhee is looking for are the same any manager would seek- so why not go for the best man rather than a very good one?

It also appears hearts want this done quickly which is another positive aspect of this story. If hearts were allowed to speak to him and both parties were frank with each other then this could be concluded very quickly.

RE: glen urquhart- for over 100 years rangers, celtic and the gfa have pickered in public while holding hands under the negotiating table. The decision makers of the OF and the gfa make their agreements while attending religiously biased secret meetings which are only arranged to further their members own aims. Pretty pathetic from two so called sporting institutions.
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The Future's Maroon,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 10:05:34
Seems pretty straight forward to me, McGhee is interested in the job and with him 'urging' Motherwell to let him speak to them that could be taken he'd just end up resigning.

There is a simple point for me....VLAD....if this all falls through now we now 100% that Vlad is not willing to give a manager full control, MMcG has made it clear he is interested so no spin off stories from Hearts can get round this if we fail to get him.

I would also hope that MMcG insist on something in his contract regarding selection, because if this turned out to be another Burley (3 Months of things going ok, then Vlad wants more involved) then it will be the last straw for most Jambo's I fear.
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LionheartFodithman,

26/05/2008 10:11:44
#29 CJ
So we stick him on a 1 or 2 year contract and show a distinct lack of ambition as a club.He may as well stay with Motherwell if that is the case.

If Vlad and the board at Hearts are serious about building this big stand and wanting to compete at the right end of the table surely we want a manager who shares the same view.

It is of my opinion that if MM does not show this kind of ambition over the coming negotiations then he will not get the job anyway.



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The Future's Maroon,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 10:16:35
www.talk107.com

One hundred thousand pounds. That's how much Motherwell are demanding for Mark McGhee and Scott Leitch. Hearts majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov would prefer his number one managerial target to resign, removing the need to pay compensation. However McGhee is loath to simply quit Fir Park. And he'll have further talks with Well chairman John Boyle today in a bid to resolve the issue.
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viator,

looking for light at the end of the tunnel 26/05/2008 10:16:39
In Mark McGHee and Campbell Ogilvie, Hearts would have 2 of the most respected employees in Scottish fitba'.

The former has tasted real glory with both Aberdeen and Celtic, and will be desperate to emulate this as a manager.He is well thought of by Fergie et al , and has the prescence to motivate even the wild bairns at Tynie, in short he is a leader personified.He is also a fully qualified architect,so could help with the new stand.
31

Bleeding Heart...,

26/05/2008 10:26:09
#30 You're quite right in what you say.

Romanov has now painted himself into a difficult corner. McGhee has indicated his willingness to come to Tynecastle. Thus, if this deal falls through, then the obvious conclusion will be that Romanov has failed to provide the assurances McGhee is seeking.

Romanov may seek to put a different slant on why negotiations broke down, but most people will blame his intransigence, nothing else.

#26 You make a good point and I agree with your sentiments. But is there any potential manager out there who wouldn't be tempted by the prospect of a move to the OF or the EPL?

I think this is just something we're going to have to live with.

I still think that any new manager will need assurances on funding as much as anything else.

If a new manager cannot fund 4-5 quality signings, if we cannot compete head-to-head with the OF, then what is the point (as Craig Levein might say!)?
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busbyfh,

26/05/2008 10:43:32
McGhee is one of Gordon Strachan's best pals so at least he will know whether to hang around for much longer waiting for the Celtic job.
For all the reading between the lines no one has mentioned the last paragraph - That's a ta ta if I ever read one.
A couple of folk posted a few months ago that Hearts had their man lined up but wanted to wait ubtil the season's end to "fix things up". I ridiculed the suggestion - Not for the first (or last) time it looks like I was wrong (Thankfully)
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huggs,

26/05/2008 10:56:22
MM Has to ensure he has total control not only of team selection but the whole first team squad
He has to weed out the numbers, get rid of the hangers on who report back to Vlad, sort out his backroom staff including trainers and physios
A lot has to be sorted in a black and white contract and i think this could be a major stumbling block
Cmon Vlad give the team a chance !!
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 11:06:57
Is it just me or does the arrival of idiots like Urquart just strengthen your resolve that they are not up for a square go in the league.

All this bleating about no-competition in the SPL etc and then when plans seem to be afoot at Scotland's third biggest club to put in place a good manager backed with better finances than the rest of the pack... Suddenly it's "Hearts are still a joke team, untill the Romanovs leave" and "Yeah you might make the top six"...

Surely if these unwashed fools were as uninterested and confident as they claim to be then they would not be drooling so much p155 on the matter each day... Me thinks the lady protests too much.

Hope we get him and lets face it... it's not as if you have to do all that much to take on rangers and celtic really is it... Reckon they've both been VERY ordinary for the last 4-5 years... Bet Hibs and Aberdeen could do the same with little effort too with the right man at the helm and a better budget for wages.

As for Hearts being a laughing stock?... Seriously after the pathetic, juvenile, hate-filled, scum-bag, embarassing, disgracefull, cringeworthy, sectarian behaviour of the fans of Scotland's (Britain's now) most despised and hated football club i think that that is a little rich really...

BRITAIN'S SHAME!!
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We love fitba,

google! 26/05/2008 11:37:35
So, back to the future for Romanov... employ a manager with a proven track record (Burley... no, sorry, McGhee) and let them do what they're good at. Certainly Jambos are welcome this news if it turns out to be true but what have the intervening 2 1/2 seasons been about?

And one more thing... if McGhee wants to know if he'll have full control of team affairs, he need ask only one question: what happens if I don't fancy Panilla? Will Vlad say "ok no problem, don't play him if you don't want to"?
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lesmajambo,

Lesmahagow 26/05/2008 11:45:44
I remember Mark McGhee well in his playing days. He never seemed to fail to score against Hearts. However , all is forgiven now that he is on our side.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 11:46:24
#39

Hello WLF,

Look at the end of the day as you have pointed out we have had some real highs and real lows in Vlad's three years but if it is back to the future time as you put it then ... good it will be back to the high points in that case.

Whether or not it would be followed by a similar return to the dark days afterwards... Who knows, I don't but then neither do you.

You do a lot of presuming when it comes to Hearts but the only person who knows what is going on is Vlad so like me you will just have to watch this space and continue to speculate.

I think Vlad will be reluctant to make the same mistakes all over again personally and so am a bit more confident than i was... Whatever you think of him he is a very successfull business operator and as such you would be writing him off at your peril I think.
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LionheartFodithman,

26/05/2008 11:48:16
#38 CJ

I am not for or against MM as Manager.I would like any manager that can makes things a success for us.
From the moment Vlad took over the bar has been raised for us,we are now owned by a large foreign company and are therefore wide open to ridicule from all quarters,win or lose.

Employment is a two way streak.
Will Vlad ask MM for certain assurances about his commitment to the club.
Will MM ask for certain assurances from Vlad.

If there was a job on offer paying 4 times the wage,would you even bother negotiating or just roll up and take the dosh.
My point CJ is that if i was the employer i would be asking for commitment and ambition from a potential employee.If its McGhee,has he shown this in the past or can he convince Vlad he can in the future.
I sincerely hope he has to before he is employed by Hearts.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 26/05/2008 11:52:21
Marks McGhee would be an outstanding appointment for the Jambos.

He'll turn things around, get some fine results, have all the Gorgie fans enthusing about a their league position & style of play.

Then he'll fall out with Romanov & leave.

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MAROON TOON,

26/05/2008 12:00:03
#37# Well said M8!!!!!
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We love fitba,

26/05/2008 12:03:30
#42 Jamboy,

I thought I was being v fair in my previous post. The lack of a proper management structure has been the single most obvious failing of Vlad's regime, so if addresses this even doubters like me should acknowledge it.

But this "successful businessman" defence doesn't wash anymore... Hearts are not a successful business, not at the moment.
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LyonHearts,

le teil 26/05/2008 12:08:42
MON THE HEARTS!
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PROBABLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL TEAM IN THE WORLD,

26/05/2008 12:14:40
I thought McGhee had ambition?

Going to a club that should have been relegated if it hadn't been for Gretna shows a lack of brain.

Hearts are a bottom 6 club and they know it.
Dump for a stadium.
Lunatic owner.
No fans.
1st division material.
Don't do it Mark, it can only end in tears.
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LionheartFodithman,

26/05/2008 12:24:23
#48 CJ

True enough,i would much rather debate these issues with guys that actually care and can have a discussion in a reaonable manner.

Talking of Shaggy,you have to feel a modicum of sorrow from him.
Perhaps it would be better for him to fall on his own sword and go with a bit of dignity.
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KeithD,

26/05/2008 12:36:31
Taken from the Sunday Herald last september! Interesting reading!

Who's the boss?

Mark McGhee believes the interference from above at Hearts is set to become a way of life for most football managers.

WE LIVE in interesting, changing times in terms of the way a manager's job is heading in football. The way things are done at clubs such as Hearts and Chelsea seems unorthodox to us, but it's going to become more common as a new type of owner comes into our game. Some of these new owners are going to want more control than British managers have ever had to surrender in the past.

There is no point opposing it or trying to take any sort of stand; managers will have to accept that and adapt, or else lose any chance they have of taking over at some of our bigger clubs in the future.

The enormous investment that television has made in European football has transformed the desirability of owning clubs. English Premier League clubs have become especially big business. As a result, individuals, companies, investment funds and consortiums from the City or elsewhere are all over our bigger clubs. Because of that, the structure and management at the clubs has changed radically over the last decade.

advertisementThere always were generous benefactors around who were willing to fund their chosen clubs in the knowledge that the only return they were likely to receive on their investment was an emotional one.

My ex-employer at Wolves, Sir Jack Hayward, was the classic example of a philanthropic football fan who "did it for the people". The new breed of owner is looking for a bit more.

In order to protect their investments these proprietors - Vladimir Romanov and Roman Abramovich are the most prominent examples, although there are others too - are adopting a hands-on approach which assures accountability at all levels and in all departments of a modern football club.

This includes the football side which until recently was sacrosanct. Managers never previousl
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KeithD,

26/05/2008 12:40:45
Continued..from no 54 previously had to put up with much in the way of interference from "the suits".

Now today's chairmen, CEOs and managing directors challenge their managers constantly, often requiring justification for any decisions they make. This has gone beyond financial issues and now includes a manager's routine football decisions.

Many clubs have a director of football whose job it is to mediate between the manager and the chief operating officer. This can affect which players a manager can sign and which are sold on, and when all of it happens. Most modern managers have come to accept this level of intervention and will argue their case accordingly, winning some and losing others. What is less acceptable to managers and coaches is the interference in playing matters by executives - no matter how financially loaded they may happen to be.

For me, the key to this is knowing the terms of a job when you take it. When any manager takes over he establishes the lines of demarcation at the outset: what his brief is and where his decision is final. If this changes then it will inevitably lead to problems which can have only one outcome: the manager will get the bullet. This is always announced as being "by mutual consent" of course Now, there is yet another type of owner emerging, the ones who bluntly want an influence on team affairs. I have worked with many chairmen and have been fortunate that they have all, in their time, been great to work with. John Boyle at Motherwell certainly falls into that category.

Theo Paphitis, who many people will know from the Dragons' Den television programme, was brilliant to work with when I was manager at the Lions' den, Millwall.

Theo is a very intelligent guy who has a clear picture of how he expects his manager to operate. He expected me to explain my decisions and would always challenge me if he disagreed. Why was I playing a certain guy at left-back, for example, or what was my thinking with the midfield? I h
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KeithD,

26/05/2008 12:44:15
Continued from no 56.........I had no problem with that and would always have the final say. I think that our understanding was healthy and he certainly kept me on my toes.

What I found unacceptable was when Theo wanted to increase his influence and it was at that point that we shook hands and I left the club. No hard feelings. That's just the way it was.

The big question for the future is this: can the involvement and interference of executives ever be acceptable to coaches and managers?

I think the time is coming when it might have to be.

Soon some owner is going to have the bottle to be honest and declare his intentions: namely that his team will be selected by committee and the coach will be there only to prepare the team and to implement their requirements.

People might be surprised to hear me say this, but if a coach were to be hired and accept those conditions at the outset then I don't believe he would be compromising his professional integrity. Remember, this situation would require transparency and with power comes responsibility. Any owner taking this route would have to be prepared to stand up and be counted if his decisions went wrong.

I think most people would regard me as a strong-willed and independent manager and I would hope that will never change. But I also recognise that football evolves all the time. What we are seeing at the likes of Hearts and Chelsea is the first evidence of a new model emerging for club ownership in Britain.

It's up to our top managers to accept that, and to learn how to turn it to their advantage.
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KeithD,

26/05/2008 13:10:42
Looks like Mark McGhee would be happy with the situation with Romanov saying yeah or neh to new signings and Romanov not interfering with team tactics and selection.That's what we all want,Romanov we understand that you want to have some influence in HMFC which you near enough own but let the guy's who know about football get on with their job's,we'll back you and embrace you mate if you do.Come on Vlad see sense!!!
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Bleeding Heart...,

26/05/2008 13:31:11
#57 The most revealing quote for me is...

"Remember, this situation would require transparency and with power comes responsibility. Any owner taking this route would have to be prepared to stand up and be counted if his decisions went wrong".

This is exactly what Romanov's personality apparently won't allow.

For the last 2.5 years or so, Romanov has made decisions behind the scenes and expected some poor sod to face the media and explain substitutions, tactical decisions, why certain players were omitted, etc, etc.

Romanov clearly enjoys the power but doesn't have the integrity or moral fibre to accept his own accountability for the team's steady decline since Burley's exit.

Of course, we're still awaiting an open and honest explanation for Burley's departure too, aren't we?

As Junior proved at the AGM, the Romanov gene pool seemingly engenders a strong aversion to criticism. Any criticism is instantly met with an attempt to blame others. There is no acceptance of responsibility for their own actions.

As victorian says, "you're a busted flush vlad. only conducting business the british way will do from now on, none of your snash."

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busbyfh,

26/05/2008 13:33:36
You all have to remember that David Murray over the years has sugned MANY players for Rangers whether his manager of the time approved or not .
Just one example - Andy Webster (spit) He was originally courted by "Rangers" McLeish , later attempting to sign him was LeGuen and finally they got their "man" when Smith signed him. Is any knuckledragging moron from Govan way going to try and say that ALL 3 managers were trying to get him off their own backs ? Don't be daft - Next thing you know folk will be believing that the Manchester trouble makers were from other countries.
Owners with "loads of input" are here to stay.(Just not as clumsy in going about it as Vlad)
54

Who?,

26/05/2008 14:46:48
#61 - murray also signed colin hendry when advocate was the manager. Advocate was forced to play hendry and make him his captain! Murray also went after Gazza even though smith had reservations. After rangers won 9 in a row most of the 15 or so players signed for the following season were murray signings. The reason paul ritchie only lasted a few weeks at rangers is that he found out advocate didn't fancy him and he had been signed by murray.

Dermot Desmond signed Roy Keane and a few of the other big name flops while Ginger nutts has been in charge. Strachan maybe close to useless but he must have watched donati and jarosik!
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glen urquhart,

if Carlsberg made joke teams 26/05/2008 15:19:21
As someone who doesn't particularly like MMcG then my advice is take on the Hearts job.

Hopefully Hearts won't mind his habit of resting key players against Celtic who then find themselves in the starting line-up against Rangers.

As I have said elsewhere my advice to Vlad would be to bring back Levein then Tynecastle could have the paranoia dream team.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 26/05/2008 15:41:50
#64

The prize pillock of the season award must go to greetin faced Levein.

His toys oot the pram antics at Ibrox were very funny indeed.

He should go to Hearts, they are made for each other.
57

Bleeding Heart...,

26/05/2008 15:44:04
#64-65 Interesting that McCurry has since concurred with Levein's viewpoint, isn't it?

Does that make McCurry paranoid too..?
58

Royalty,

Zandvoort 26/05/2008 15:48:28
#66 Surprised McCurry had time to concur with anything.

He's a busy boy these days.

Ooer!
59

Royalty,

Zandvoort 26/05/2008 15:59:48
#68

McCurry aint biased hes just rubbish.

Same with all the the SPL officials.

They couldnt throw a sicky never mind a game.

60

LyonHearts,

le teil 26/05/2008 16:09:08
No further info about McGee anywhere on the internet! Maybe it's a quiet news day?

If we don't get him, does anyone have any other names that might be thrown into the hat as possibles?

What about the Doncaster Rovers manager? just joking!
61

LyonHearts,

le teil 26/05/2008 16:13:51
Just found this in the Daily Ranker!

SCOTLAND coach George Burley has said he would not Motherwell boss Mark McGhee against switching Fir Park for Tynecastle - despite his own acrimonious split with the club.

"...not motherwell..."? Is that some sort of new verb? to motherwell - (verb) when one ex-boss who left acrimoniously doesn't try to disuade a prospective candidate from applying for the job, despite the appaling treatment he recieved himself!

62

Bleeding Heart...,

26/05/2008 16:21:12
#70 "If we don't get him, does anyone have any other names that might be thrown into the hat as possibles?

It's a very good question! Is there a Plan "B", Romanov???
63

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

26/05/2008 16:28:55
#63 Yup, Romanov's interference since Frail took over has been minimal - certainly no worse than the other owners you mention, with players getting dropped through contract disputes or sold for the money (I'm sure Smith would have loved to have kept Hutton for the rest of the season).

In fact, the only thing Burley complained of was having to justify who he put in the side - something McGhee can obviously live with according to his own article. That was spun into Romanov picked the team after Rix told the squad that he had to drop Webster (over his contract dispute).

It's clear Romanov is a meddling owner who signed players on mass in a misguided effort to use the club as a shop window. I think he underestimated the strength of Scottish football and thought any old team could play and compete. He reckoned without the disruption it would cause, and the huge expense - something he now seems to have addressed.

So he took it too far, but I can't believe in all this time we haven't seen one copy of a faxed team sheet, meaning I'm sceptical he took it THAT far, apart from wen a player's agent was acting up.

With all the disgruntled employees (supposedly) at Hearts you'd have thunk one of them would have lifted a copy. I also don't believe Romanov phoned in substitutaions. I really think Chernokov or whatever his name was who was here at the start of the season was simply incompetent and we had terrible communications breakdowns from the stand to poor Frail on the bench.
64

LyonHearts,

le teil 26/05/2008 16:30:18
#73 Not much action today, but it looks as if both parties are very keen so it may only be a matter of patience!

With Vlad though there's always a chance that even if McGee did brilliantly that he might just p*** on the chips as he's done in the past!

Still we've got to be hopeful at least!

Mon The Hearts!
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 26/05/2008 16:35:16
No doubt McGhee is on his way to Hearts, Motherwell are wanting good money for him which I am sure Romanov will pay. The only problem will be McGhee wanting all the authority in team selections, will Romanov give that up?? For the good of Hearts I hope so. Get McGhee in now and let him start getting rid of the wasters which we have plenty off. I will look forward to seeing what new players will come in.Start with a goalkeeper and go right through the team.
66

Bleeding Heart...,

26/05/2008 16:50:26
#74 It'll take some doing for Romanov to make me happy, CJ.

And no, I'm not naive enough to think that Romanov should announce what Plan B is.

I was speculating whether or not a Plan B existed. Now, that's not unreasonable, is it..?
67

Mr Weir's sore chuff,

26/05/2008 17:38:40
Shame about Webster.
68

Glorious Hearts,

26/05/2008 19:17:48
Motherwell have announced that McGhee has signed a new deal with them- McGhee never made it to Lithuania apparently.

http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10292,00.html
69

Youngie the hibee,

26/05/2008 19:52:56
hahahhahahhahahhahahhahaah stupis yams
70

Youngie the hibee,

26/05/2008 19:53:04
STUPID
71

badger,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 20:08:23
#83

yes you are
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jimjambo,

tayside 26/05/2008 20:30:01
looks like he was just using us to get a better deal at motherwell
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Hobo Harry,

26/05/2008 20:31:01
Jambos shouldn't get despondent about this news, personally I think Motherwell have been mis-quoted. I mean there is no way surely that MM was using a great big huge club like Hearts as a bargaining chip to get a pay raise fae a wee team like Motherwell? Or was he???????

Arf arf arf
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The Future's Maroon,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 21:30:11
The Hibbys are going to love this - the deal is off....he has decided to stay at Motherwell.

The wind-ups will be desereved IMO after some of the pots by Jambos on here in the last few days.
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Xacobeo Hearts,

Galicia, ....ah Well 26/05/2008 21:34:04
So McGhee has decided to stay at Motherwell then.

To paraphrase Fight Club for a second:

"I am Jack's complete lack of surprise!"

So am I even slightly surprised?

No!

Do I blame McGhee for his decision?

No, can't really blame him at all.

Am I disappointed?

Yep, you could say that!!

Is this the end of this particular story?

...couldn't even begin to guess if it is!

I really do wish however, that some of my more excitable fellow Jambos had thought about at least considering the concept of counting their chickens before spouting off.

Our brethren from across the city really ARE going to have a field day on this one.

Ach well, back to (Vlad's) drawing board again.
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jamboboetjie,

EH 26/05/2008 21:36:41
81-where does it say a new deal has been signed

something very odd about this story
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

26/05/2008 22:05:17
#90 I agree, we'll see what comes out. It's a little fishy, given McGhee's statements which effectively said, "Come and get me". If Motherwell continue to refuse permission, then McGhee either has to resign or Hearts make a large offer of compensation. If he can't speak to Romanov about getting his contract demands sorted about team control, then he can't quit and decide to join them. And Hearts can't tell him they'll accept his demands if Motherwell won't let him talk to us. It's rock and a hard place time.

Although we deserve no sympathy as Romanov created this situation that any new manager needs these reassurances. The only good thing to come out of this could be that McGhee's seeming willingness to take the job and the rumoured salary could make the job more attractive to someone who doesn't have a job.
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LionheartFodithman,

26/05/2008 22:29:52
My comments at post #26 should give you all an insight into MM.
I have allways had reservations about MM as a few on here are aware off for various reasons which iam loathed to voice publicly.

Vlad...treat this as a learning curve of the highest order and employ Billy Davies a.s.a.p ....Please
80

Youngie the hibee,

27/05/2008 19:58:48
#84 badger
i would think of a good comeback but i wont sooooo......
i know you are but what am i
81

Youngie the hibee,

27/05/2008 19:58:49
#84 badger
i would think of a good comeback but i wont sooooo......
i know you are but what am i
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