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Published Date: 02 April 2009
ONCE considered taboo in golfing circles, jeans are winning acceptance as the recession hits membership levels and forces clubs to rethink their rules.
A campaign called "Love Golf? Join the Club", aimed at filling 10,000 vacancies across Scotland, has been launched with an emphasis on customer service and a more relaxed dress code.

The scheme was announced at Hilton Park, near Glasgow, by Sco
ttish Golf Union (SGU) officials wearing jeans and T-shirts.

In a bid to encourage young people and families to join the 300 clubs advertising vacancies, the SGU and the Scottish Ladies' Golfing Association have been promoting denim rather than blazer and flannels as appropriate attire for the 19th hole.

Other clubs are being encouraged to follow the innovative examples of Hilton Park and Swanston New Golf Club, in Edinburgh, which have both increased membership numbers through more family-friendly policies.

Lynn Kenny, 28, a professional on the Ladies' European Tour, said: "Everything at Hilton Park and Swanston is ticking the boxes for what I wish could have been done for me when I was growing up.

"I've been involved with the game for 20 years and anything that can be done to change attitudes within the sport and bring golf into the 21st century can only be a good thing."

Gordon Simpson, the general manager of Hilton Park, said his club had reaped the benefits of becoming a modern, equal- opportunity club.

"We wanted to create a warm and welcoming atmosphere for families," he said. "We relaxed the dress-code regulations and, if you're out on a Sunday in your jeans, you can now come into the clubhouse for a bite to eat or a drink, where previously you couldn't."

Michael Williamson, an Edinburgh golf consultant, believes flexibility is the key to increasing membership. "Most clubs have a variation of 'smart casual', and a lot are being ever more flexible on the issue," he said.

"I think it comes down to definition: I've seen golf clubs were the code is jacket and tie, and you have old guys with soup-stained ties and jackets with patches.

"I don't think it's exactly what you specify, it's all to do with attitude. Tiger Woods wears a collarless T-shirt and he's the best golfer in the world, so why shouldn't people be allowed into golf clubs wearing that?"

However, Loch Lomond Golf Club, which forbids jeans on the course, said it was unlikely to change its policy.

A spokeswoman said: "We are a bit different from a typical club, but it's about maintaining standards that our members expect. It's an exclusive club, a special place, and the members like to dress for it, and they expect others to do the same. I don't think jeans will ever be allowed to be worn on the course."

She said smart jeans were allowed in the Spike Bar, but in the formal dining area jacket and tie were still required.

Andy Salmon, development manager for the SGU, said: "We are not suggesting that many clubs are likely to start allowing members or guests to turn up in T-shirt and jeans, but the purpose of this event was to invite them to think differently about how they promote themselves to a wider market, specifically targeting the nomadic golfer."



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1

RufusT-Firefly,

02/04/2009 00:02:37
Wardog will still be banned though.

They don't like men dressed as women on these golf courses.
2

Navvy,

02/04/2009 04:21:54
Jeans usually look scruffy even with a smart top.
Why can people not just buy a pair of chinos, for example
3

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 02/04/2009 05:03:32
Great headline!!!! "Recruitment drive as golf clubs urged to relax old dress codes"

Even so, my golf club has never asked me to wear an old dress.
4

BamberGaspipe,

The Moon 02/04/2009 07:51:36
You should play any Edinburgh Leisure run course in Edinburgh - they let you play in jeans and nae top !
And that's the women
No standards at all and the competence of the visiting parties are a joke
No disrespect but Stephen Hawkins would beat most of them !
5

IanW,

Somewhere 02/04/2009 08:09:57
This is yet another pointless story. if golf club really want to increase the playing membership and encourage youngsters to play they need to look at their fees.

I would love to be a member at my local club, or indeed any other in Scotland (I work overseas a lot so cannot play at home often). However the joining fee and the annual membership are so high that I cannot justify membership, it is cheaper to simply pay green-fees.

My local club charge in excess of £500 for joining and £350 annually. How can they expect to encourage new members with such excessive fees? Most of the other clubs in my home area also charge around the same for joining and around £250-£300 per year.

If anyone knows of a club offering cheap membership for people like me, i.e. mainly overseas, I would welcome the information.
6

Bigwull,

edinburgh 02/04/2009 08:14:12
5 you should try Edinburgh fees £700 per year! Disgraceful
7

greenhill,

02/04/2009 08:37:53
Requiring a tie is taking things too far. Ties are the modern day equivalent of powdered wigs.In fact they are about as usefull as a pubic wig.
8

Mark Insch,

02/04/2009 08:52:33
"Tiger Woods wears a collarless T-shirt and he's the best golfer in the world"

Didn't realise there was a connection before, but can explain why my game never seems to get any better - I'm off to Matalan right now!
9

Mcsnagpile,

02/04/2009 08:55:20
It is necessary to keep up standards otherwise people might think it is just all about hitting a ball with a stick around some hills in the rain.
10

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 08:57:39
IanW your local courses sound like good value to me. How much do you think it costs to maintain a golf course? Scotland is one of the cheapest places in the World to play golf. New Zealand is cheaper but thats because the sheep keep the grass short. It costs me a fortune to play in Barbados.

This initiative is great down with the fuddy duds.
11

Farmernot,

02/04/2009 09:45:41
Most clubs operate a smart casual approach nowadays with a restriction on denim jeans.A pair of smart trousers on the course is no big deal surely.
Most jeans you see now are ripped somewhere so is a real dumbing down to allow that.
As far as fees are concerned a lot of clubs have abolished entry fees as there is no waiting list and around £500 is the annual sub. Not bad value for a sport you can play all year round.
12

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 10:18:35
Why do people have such a big hang up about one type of trousers. An old Brigadier from my club told me he had never owned a pair of denims, thats fine he probably thinks he looks good in his shiny flannels. Just don't interfere with what other people choose to wear.

I think its an old fashioned class thing. Working class men wore denims to work.

Down with the fuddy duds and their good ladies in tartan trousers.
13

Billy the Fish,

Glasgow 02/04/2009 10:29:22
I used to play a lot of golf as a teenager but was put off the sport by club house stiffs with their petty rules and self importance.
14

Tartan Viking,

02/04/2009 10:48:05
Lynn Kenny, 28, a professional on the Ladies' European Tour...

There were loads of posts a few weeks ago critisising golf clubs as being sexist and male dominated yet here we have a European Tour for women only. Is there a Mens' European Tour? I think not. This would be deemed sexist. Double standards for the ladies again?
15

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 11:04:23
Your going off thread Viking with your ridiculous post. Off course women need their own tour. Can we keep some sanity in these discussions please.
16

IanW,

Somewhere 02/04/2009 11:13:03
Faultserver #15 - Yes the question of gender is off topic. However you say that 'Of course women need their own tour..'. I would question why, given that women can play on the European Tour. It is also sexist for the womens tour to prohibit men playing. Isn't this covered by the sex discrimination act?

However going back to the main topic, i.e. encouraging new, younger membership to golf clubs, I think that dress codes should apply. By doing so you teach respect for others which in todays' society is sadly lacking.

I agree with other comments that the fuddy duddies have to be stopped. However they are like that because of their personalities and not because of what they wear. They have to accept that young people can be fine golfers with new but reasonable attitudes to golf.
17

AJ Fife,

02/04/2009 11:15:28
A good walk spoiled......
18

FapFap,

Tampa 02/04/2009 11:16:19
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19

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 11:23:25
IanW there is a thing called the common sense act,
women can't compete with men because they are not strong enough. End of story.

What dress code do you have in mind? No jeans as usual.
20

Tartan Viking,

02/04/2009 12:18:04
#15 & #19. Faultserver.
I know it is off topic, but the words "Ladies' European Tour" appears in the above article, hence my reference to it. It is only a ridiculous post if you are blinkered in life, and accept these things without even bothering to question how ridiculous they are in a world where there is supposed to be equality.

And #19 "..there is a thing called the common sense act,women can't compete with men because they are not strong enough. End of story."

Then this common sense act you refer to should be applied to prevent the ridiculous position of making it illegal to have men-only tournaments but perfectly legal to have women-only tournaments. End of story.

21

Scunner Campbell,

edinburgh 02/04/2009 12:31:12
IanW a lot of courses offer country membership at reduced prices for people are away a lot.
22

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 12:49:43
Viking I think you are frightened that a young lady might give you a good hammering on the course. Let them play with the big boys if they think they are good enough.

I think you should join the R&A there are a lot of dinosaurs like you there.
23

Tartan Viking,

02/04/2009 12:54:45
#22. You are an eejit.
24

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 13:28:03
Tyrannosaurus Viking don't go in a huff with me. Come over to my course, men only of course, in Barbados for a friendly game. Do you have your own transport or will I send my jet to pick you up.
25

Tartan Viking,

02/04/2009 14:00:47
#24. Hey Basil Faulty Server.

If you really are in Barbados (which I doubt)you must be out in the sun too long. Get back in the shade man -it is affecting you. Anyway - I wouldn't be playing a silly game of golf if I was there. I'm led to believe there are plenty of British Style pubs in Barbados. A nice wee seat outside to watch the bikini-clad women go by? Now you're talking.
26

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 14:53:03
Just back from my morning jog along the beach. Jets cancelled for you Tyranno as we don't want any of you leery misogynistic types on the island staring at our young ladies.

Back on topic do away with dress code, at last the SGU are doing something sensible. I am not going to call for Hamish Gray to be deported back to New Zealand for a while. He's got one month to come up with another good idea.
27

Tartan Viking,

02/04/2009 16:33:06
#26 Misogynistic?

Away with you man. Cannot say anything these days without being accused of one thing or another. Hope you have free speech in Barbados, Basil mate, cause we sure aint got it here.

28

Faultserver,

Barbados 02/04/2009 17:35:14
Free speech as long as I agree with you Tyranno, but I obviously don't as you represent the bad old sexist ways. Dungeons for you if come on the island.

Is there technical support on the site, why does it take me five attempts to sign in. My buddy, Viking is waiting on my posts.
29

BamberGaspipe,

The Moon 03/04/2009 08:01:06
#26
Hamish GrEy should have been dumped when Drumoig failed along with the majority of the useless SGU staff
Another new body is required to run golf in Scotland
30

common sense voice,

18/04/2009 11:48:03
Nairn Dunbar voted jeans back in years back... easy! extra ordinary AGM.. loads of young members turn up out of the blue... vote passed nae problems

that's Nairn Dunbar with the toughest front 9 in golf..



31

Casey J.,

31/07/2009 14:37:01
Does that mean we don't have to wear a suit anymore to play golf? Maybe we can all wear tennis garb?

 

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