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Burning Issue: Is a new dedicated TV channel for Scotland an idea to be welcomed?



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Published Date: 08 September 2008
Yes

BRIAN MCNAIR,

professor of journalism, University of Strathclyde
I AM in favour, in principle, of a television channel dedicated to Scottish politics, culture, sport and other issues. I have never supported the idea of a "Scottish Six", breaking into the BBC network's main news programme to include more coverage o
f Scottish matters. But I think with the potential afforded to us by digital technology, giving people access to many more channels, a dedicated Scottish channel complementing existing networks would be welcomed by the public.

There is a legitimate criticism from people in Scotland that they cannot watch certain events live, such as football matches involving Scottish teams, because there is not the space on the channels currently available to them. An extra channel would give them that choice, but would also allow those who want to watch the main UK channels to continue to do so. It would allow for more localised and targeted coverage of news and other types of content.

A key issue is how such a channel will be financed. Would it be part of the public service system? Will it eat into the BBC Scotland budget, and if so, what would be cut from existing provision to make it possible? Is it going to be funded wholly or in part by advertising or some other means such as subscription? If so, could such a channel achieve a big enough audience to bring in advertising revenue? Is there a real demand for it? I think this has still to be tested.

If there is indeed to be a new Scottish channel exploiting the potential of digital TV, these issues will need to be addressed. The idea of a new channel dedicated to Scotland is welcome, but we will need to see more detail before it becomes clear whether or not it is viable.

No

MATTHEW SINCLAIR,

policy analyst, Taxpayers' Alliance


THE past record for these kind of smaller, niche channels is not good. If it is true that it is recommended that a new Scottish channel should be funded by the UK government through its policy for public service broadcasting, that is a major concern.

At a time when ordinary people are so hard-pressed with the rising burden of tax and the effects of the economic slowdown, it would make much more sense to be thinking about putting money into measures to reduce that problem, rather than setting up a new TV channel which has doubtful chances of success.

I am not convinced that pushing forward with the idea of a Scottish television channel would be a vote-winner.

People see that their taxes are up 50 per cent in the last decade and face huge tax bills with no sign that that will change any time soon. They don't want to see more money being pushed into a scheme which is untested.

If there is a need for further channels, and such channels would be successful, they can be provided by the private sector.

If there really is this great demand, let them go ahead and do it. They can charge for advertising and they can take the risk, rather than using taxpayers' money to test it out.

There is a variety of public service broadcasting already available and in general people are happy with the choices that they have.

With the economic climate as it currently stands, now is not a good time to be talking about new public service channels. People have far bigger concerns.





The full article contains 598 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 07 September 2008 8:13 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 08/09/2008 00:25:53

"Is a new dedicated TV channel for Scotland an idea to be welcomed?"

If it is going to be anything like the disaster STV is!, then the answer is a,...

.......BIG FAT NO!!!

BOTH BBC Scotland and STV are a disgrace to Scotland's viewers, no-wonder, they say we have a 'Drink Problem'!

Is it any-wonder,?

People just want out the house at weekends, when there is nothing worth watching on TV, and coverage of local events are 'Appalling'!

A Bunch of 5year olds could do better, giving us local news etc.
2

Fifi la Bonbon,

08/09/2008 00:45:55
1.00 pm - The One O'Clock Gang with Larry Marshall (rpt)(b&w)
2.00pm - Weir's Way (rpt)(colour)
2.30pm - Weir's Way (rpt)(colour)
3.00pm - Weir's Way (rpt)(colour)
3.30pm - Weir's Way (rpt)(colour)
4.00pm - Weir's Way (rpt)(colour)
4.30pm - Weir's Way (rpt)(colour)
5.00pm - Garnock Way (rpt)(b&w)
5.30pm - Machair (rpt)(colour)
6.00pm - the Scottish News, read by Mary Marquis and Douglas Kynoch.(colour)(subtitles)
6.30pm - Thingummyjig, with the Laird of Coocaddens - omnibus archive programme with 150 minutes of Fran and Anna's Greatest Hits.(colour)
9.00pm - Shinty - recorded highlights of last Saturday's big game between Dynamo Kyleakin and Atletico Plockton.(b&w)
11.00pm - Newsnight Scotland(colour)
11.15pm - Late Call(b&w)
11.20pm - Sponsored programming - tonight, The Greggs The Bakers Sausage Roll Hour.(colour)

3

Fifi la Bonbon,

08/09/2008 01:01:35
Seriously, this idea is daft.

It comes principally from politicians like Mister Salmond who don't actually watch much TV (but would dearly love to dictate what people who do watch telly see) and people in the telly business who see a scheme to make more money out of the public purse.

The only benefit that would be conveyed to the tax payer would be more football. A bit like the idea behind Setanta, which implies that the only way this should be done is through a subscription channel.

There really isn't an audience. The UK market with 60m people can barely support ITV. STV is doing all it can to cut any Scottish programming cos it can't make money out of it, and all its "entertainment" programmes are just dross.

Personally, I watch US TV, and some homegrown stuff on BBC 4 and More 4. And I don't watch it live, I record it on my PVR and watch the programmes at my convenience, skipping the ads. There's millions like me, and I really don't think I'd notice the existence of this new channel. There is no chance, for example, that it might broadcast things I'd like - like a free showing of The Wire.

I can't imagine actually watching a new channel any more than I can imagine me watching STV in real time!
4

Boy Wonder,

08/09/2008 01:59:13
Just ONE Channel that has reasonably good programming would be enough ... Cos STV Grampian and Borders are rubbish. And maybe that channel will do more EAST COAST stuff, since the others are so Glasgow-centric!
5

Corrennie,

08/09/2008 07:03:34
Yawn...........

Football
What Grannie saw oot the kitchen windae
Football
Life on the Croft
Football
Gaelic
Football

Yawn.
6

scottish person,

paisley 08/09/2008 08:09:37
Where is the question on funding. We pay the same amount fot a license fee as they do in the south of england, yet we get less than 10% of the coverage. We already pay for our own programmes. Why dont we put on tartan burka's, then we will get as many programmes as we want.
7

Mikey,

08/09/2008 08:10:38
I see the anti Scots are out in force this morning.

What is it with you guys? Is there anything in Scotland you like? Why bother living here if it's all too much for you? Are you sure that living south of the border wouldn't be more to your tastes? If the fares are a problem, I'm sure all the real Scots on this board would have a whip round for you.

Whingers and cringers, the lot of you!
8

scottish person,

paisley 08/09/2008 08:11:07
Fifi la bon bon. Go to bed and give us peace. You are just a unionist in disguise.
9

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 08/09/2008 08:32:34
Under the Scotland Act, broadcasting is a reserved matter.

Sooner, or later, in the digital age, not only is a dedicated Scottish channel bound to be introduced but also a plethora of local television channels throughout the rest of the U.K.

Log on to the US Media website where you will learned that the United States has over 20,000 LOCAL digital television channels! The State of California alone has 88 local TV stations!

France has 6 national TV channels, 18 digital channels,
and 15 analogue channels which will transfer to another 50 new didgital channels when the French analogue signal is eventually switch off!
10

Fifi la Bonbon,

- and that's except for viewers in Scotland who h 08/09/2008 08:33:28
All right then, you tartan tammy wearing termagants, what would the schedule be on your tartan digital channel? Who would watch it? How much would it cost and who would pay for it?

Boy wonder wants "reasonably good programming with more EAST COAST stuff". How many minutes, or even hours a day? What content?

Scottish person complains about "coverage". Go on, then, what would a Scottish separate BBC with access to ten percent of licence revenue look like? Would there be as separate BBC 2, BBC3 and BBC 4, two kids channels, Parliament and News channel, and separate Radio 1, 1A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5live, 6, 7, and World Service? Or something worth only 10% of all that, but with its perspective restricted only to Scotland?

And Mikey and Scottish Person, are you suggesting that someone who views the prospect of "and that's except for viewers in Scotland who have their own programmes" with concern is somehow not a "real Scot"? And if I were a "Unionist" - what business should it be of yours? Or are we no longer to be allowed to live here and hold our own opinions under the new patriotic regime?

I think this blather is fundamentally about separatist politicians wanting to use public money to create a propaganda channel, which nobody will want to watch because there will be no programmes worth watching produced. It will be like TeleG - see Channel 8 on Freeview - or it will be Setanta, for which you have to pay a fee.

11

Rabbies Wee Bruthir,

08/09/2008 08:39:48
There is one very good reason to have a 'Scottish' channel. That reason is that the original Scotland Bill was going to put broadcasting in Scotland under the control of the Scottish Government.

Tory Blair, objected and the clause was removed, leaving Scottish Broadcasting, still controlled from Westminster.

So if Blair didn't want control of Broadcasting in Edinburgh, it is very safe to presume, that this would be a good thing for Scotland!!!

Further reasons might include that fact that less than 10% of the TVL raised in Scotland actually goes to the EBC (Scotland Branch) or to the Gaelic Channel.

One way of judging the worth of a proposal is to look at the people who are opposed to it.

If Nu Labour/Owld Torie and the Blue Rinse Con and Onionist Party of Scotland are against it, then it probably is a very good idea.
12

Fifi la Bonbon,

08/09/2008 08:40:45
Lachie Todd - the free to view US channels are all rubbish in terms of local content, and affiliates of commercial channels with loads of sponsored advertisement programmes and religious rubbish in between reruns of I Love Lucy. The population of France is £60 million, not 5 mllion, and their telly isn't much better.

Three questions - which nobody has answered with specifics:

What would the schedule be on a tartan digital channel?

Who would watch it?

How much would it cost and who would pay for it?

I outlined what I think it would be like - reruns, minority sport and sponsored commercial dreck. Maybe an hour of "Remington Steeele" on special occasions. If UTV can't make local programmes pay with all its economy of scale, what would programmes on Tartan Telly look like?
13

Fifi la Bonbon,

08/09/2008 08:42:15
Rabbies Wee Bruthir - what would be on the channel?

And I meant ITV, in #12!
14

John not from the Borders,

Haddington 08/09/2008 09:09:40
Another daft politically motivated idea which would be a waste of money. It's not their money so why not!

Are they proposing a 24hr Scottish News Channel, Gaelic programming like S4C, Scottish soaps. It would be a complete and utter financial disaster which no-one will watch but, because it suits someone’s political agenda it's deemed a good idea.

The general populace don't care and the vast majority just wouldn't tune in
15

John not from the Borders,

Haddington 08/09/2008 09:12:11
#11 and it has nothing to do with political affiliation
16

Boy Wonder,

08/09/2008 09:39:27
#10. Fifi ... gimme a lot more time and space to cover what might be decent programming and I'll tell you. Can't do it all in the Hootsmon forum, it would take forever!
17

JayDeeTee,

08/09/2008 12:51:29
We should look at getting fair coverage from the BBC instead. Very few Scottish programmes are made, but, more of an irritation is the constant references to 'England' or 'England and Wales' in the news and on the radio. The BBC is funded by us all and therefore has a duty to bring us fair and balanced reporting. It is totally unfair to expect otherwise.
18

Neale,

Edinburgh 08/09/2008 15:18:26
Why dont we add another 3p in the £ local tax to pay for this. Are we not Scottish enough, do we have to get it rammed down our throats at every opportunity. I live in Edinburgh but also live in the UK and want to watch UK National programmes as they are much better, no argument about that, its true. So if we get this extra channel I will not be tuning in, but I will be paying for it. there are already too many low quality programmes yet they want to add another one to that list, which includes STV.
19

ThePeter,

Glasgae 08/09/2008 18:32:27
I'm a unionist

All we would get is wall to wall "fitba" and forget anything else Ranger goalie has ingrowing Toenails" would be a headline even if there was a massive disaster somewhere else.
I have Sky TV - I tend to watch OTHER regions TV as it is better and more informative and football is right at the end with the OTHER sports (yes there is more then one sport)
20

Fifi la Bonbon,

08/09/2008 20:16:18
#16 - that's a cop out. I am sure you could say what you think the programming and financing and viewership of your fantasy channel would be like in fifty words. I don't think you've thought it through. Nor have the originators of this idea.
21

Douglas,

Bathgate 08/09/2008 20:23:59
Boy Wonder #16: Turn it into a pretendy recipe and spoon feed it to us please.
22

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 09/09/2008 04:54:38
I don't see why this could not be solved by a commercial solution rather always looking to a state funded model. Scrap the TV license fee for the EBC and grant 3 local television licenses for Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen with the caveat that they must produce a minimum number of hours of Scottish Content.
23

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 09/09/2008 05:16:10
Canada had a similar problem to Scotland, how to develop a local broadcasting industry when you have a much larger neighbor to the south that broadcasts in the same language and will siphon off viewers from your domestic broadcasters. The solution was to allow the local broadcasters to license some programming from the US networks but show them with local advertising content whose revenue could be used to produce domestic content. It worked Canada has a thriving film and television industry because they demanded that commercial broadcasters produce Canadian Content.

 

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