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Secret 'John Lewis list' for MPs' expenses is revealed



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Published Date:
14 March 2008
MPs ARE allowed to claim up to £10,000 for a new kitchen, more than £6,000 for a bathroom and £750 for a television for their second homes on their parliamentary allowances, it was disclosed last night.
They can also claim reimbursement from the taxpayer for stereos worth up to £750, £300 air-conditioning units and £2,000 for a suite of furniture.

The figures came as the Commons released the so-called "John Lewis list", which finance officials us
e to approve or reject MPs' expenses claims.

It is a list of precedents for spending on household items under the parliamentary second-homes allowance, based on prices at the department store.

The document, released under the Freedom of Information Act, was not even known to most MPs until recently.

Andrew Walker, the Commons' director-general of resources, had previously refused to release the document – for fear that MPs would take advantage if they knew how much they could claim for certain items.

"My concern would be that if we say what the maximum price we will allow for such an item is, it will become the going rate," he told a recent Information Tribunal hearing.

The document lists the prices for more than 30 household items which MPs can claim under the Additional Costs Allowance, a £22,000-a-year pot to meet the expense of maintaining a second residence.

The Commons has fiercely resisted disclosure of MPs' claims under the allowance, arguing it would be an invasion of their privacy.

The John Lewis list shows how much MPs have been able to claim under their controversial expenses regime, without naming individual claimants.

A note to clerks instructs that dry cleaning for both clothes and household items is permitted "within reasonable limits".

It refers to the "Green Book" setting out the rules on MPs' expenses which says that "antique, luxury or premium-grade" furnishings are not allowed. Neither are "extravagant or luxurious" items.

The document says that John Lewis is used as a guide because it "came out top of all retail shops" in the February 2007 edition of Which?, on cost, customer service and variety of goods.

Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the Taxpayers' Alliance, said: "John Lewis is a perfectly good company but it hardly offers the best value for taxpayers. MPs should realise that every penny counts when they're spending other people's money. How many taxpayers can afford to spend £1,500 on a TV and stereo?"

Labour MP David Winnick urged a review of MPs' expenses – which is being carried out by the members' estimate committee, chaired by the Speaker Michael Martin – to look into the list.

Mr Winnick said: "The public need to be absolutely reassured that MPs are not exploiting the situation."

THE PRICE IS RIGHT

Air-conditioning unit £299
Bed £1,000
Bedside cabinet £100
Bookcase/shelf £200
Bookcase/cabinet £500
Carpet £35 per sq m
Coffee maker/machine £100
Coffee table £250
Dining armchairs £150 each
Dining chairs £90 each
Dining table £600
Dishwasher £375
Drawer chest £500
Dressing table £500
Food mixer £200
Free-standing mirror £300
Fridge/freezer combi £550
Gas cooker £650
Hi Fi/stereo £750
New bathroom £6,335
New kitchen £10,000
Nest of tables £200
Recordable DVD £270
Rugs £300
Shredder £50
Sideboard £795
Suite of furniture £2,000
Television set £750
Tumble dryer £250
Wardrobe £700
Washer dryer £500
Washing machine £350
Workstation £150



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  • Last Updated: 13 March 2008 11:31 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Politicians' expenses
 
1

Furchrissake,

14/03/2008 00:40:33
John Lewis? Harrods more like. Nothing but the most expensive for the westminster boyos.

If these expenses are ever revealed to the voters, we still won't see any of them racing to pay it back. But, should be fun at the next election.
2

thewitness,

14/03/2008 02:07:38
The Witness's B&Q List

Rope £1.89

This American site has the right idea...
http://www.sendarope.com/

You can do them if you B&Q them!
3

Mad Jock,

Gifford 14/03/2008 03:08:55
Nothing about this list should surprise anyone. Surely we all know that MP's (and MSp's) are on the gravy train. What defies belief is that their justification for all their greed is the statement that "it's within the rules". Who wrote the rules? They did. Are we, the public, governed by the same rules? Are we heck. Unreceipted expense claims are thrown out, the Inland Revenue certainly won't accept anything more than £5 claimed. It would be cheaper to put all the non-resident politicians in a hotel. Perhaps if it wasn't so cosy for them in their London or Edinburgh apartments they might actually spend more time with their consituents, doing what WE pay them to do.
I work on an oil rig, and I don't get extra allowances to decorate my cabin, and all my travel receipts have to be submitted before I see any of it back, and then I have to pay tax on that. Why should our elected officials be any different. Do they pay tax on their expenses? I very much doubt it.
Change the rules, and get a body unconnected to the Parliamnents to make and enforce them. If this was a busines, it would be considered fraud.
4

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 14/03/2008 04:06:46
By my reckoning this could add up to GBP 35,534 for a 100 square metre flat. Then when you add on their housing allowance the sums become ridicules. Would it not be far cheaper for the Tax payer if the Goverment just constructed a 400 room hotel next to Westminster and let all the MP's stay their for free? Hopefully soon Westminster hijinks won't be any of Scotlands concern. We'll just have to keep an eye on the lot in Holyrood.
5

Boy Wonder,

14/03/2008 08:24:00
Politics = trough

'Nuff said!
6

E300,

tomich 14/03/2008 08:46:58
I can't believe all you cheap skate posters. Our MPs have to kit out their second homes to a high standard to maximise their profit when these second homes are sold. Why? Well, I don't know. The new kitchens aren't needed to prepare food as MPs are claiming for all the meals they don't get for free nor can I see the need for televisions when they all work such long hours and go home from Friday morning till Tuesday each week when parliament is sitting.
7

Paddi,

14/03/2008 09:05:56
Ed Balls and his MP missus claim two lots of this.

what was it that Bliar said when he first came in???

"We are not the master now. The people are the masters. We are the servants of the people. We will never forget that."





8

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 14/03/2008 09:25:05
The clatter of piggy trotters running to and from the trough sounds like castanets and many snouts are dripping with swill.
Can we now see the list of MSPs expenses in Scotland? Oh I forgot, Jack appointed his mate Kevin Dunion to be Freedom of Information Commissioner - even though the appointments committee wanted a batter qualified candidate. So no hope there then.
9

Alberto.,

14/03/2008 09:55:13
With this amazing and wonderful 'expenses allowances' system they can claim, I now read they are wanting to be paid £160. per day simply for attending their place of work!

What the hell do they think they get paid such amarvellous Salary and pension facilies for -because of the wya they look - heaven help us with this shambolic crowd of wasters and ne'er do wells who seem to be entirly driven by personal self greed above all else!

It is also amazing when we see examples, almost on a daily basis now, of their 'dodgy little attacks on taxpayers funds' in an endeavour to get away with what they can - and what may not be noticed - notwithstanding the 'system' that seems to have been introduced accordingly to facilitate such activity, it does seem absolutely preposterous that such people should be afforded or even allowed to make claims for financial re-imbursement of any kind with producing an 'official' receipt to confirm 'legality!'

Immediately springing to mind is the 'Speakers' claim for a non-existent Mortgage payment claim - seemingly for many years, which says as much for the 'honesty' - if that's the right phrase, of the Speaker - and even moreso for those 'in charge'of running and controlling the re-imbursement system - which s appears to be a very lax one indeed!


10

Alberto.,

14/03/2008 10:09:58


#14 - again!

With this amazing and wonderful assortment of 'expenses allowances' they can claim, I now read they are also wanting to be paid £160. per day simply for attending their place of work!

What the 'hell' do they think they get such a marvellous Salary and pension facilies for - because of the way they look?

Heaven help us with this shambolic crowd of wasters and ne'er do wells, who seem to be entirly driven by personal self greed above all else - in almost every aspect!

It is also amazing, that we see examples, almost on a daily basis now, of their 'dodgy little attacks on taxpayers funds' in an endeavour to get away with what they can - plus what may not be noticed, and it nearly always being considered, at least in the first place, as quite legal according to 'their' rules - notwithstanding it appears to be a 'system' that seems to have been introduced to facilitate such activity, and it does seem absolutely preposterous that such people should be afforded, or even allowed, to make claims for financial re-imbursement of any kind without producing an 'official' receipt to confirm 'legality', and for it to be 'officially' held for future records and audit(?) purposes - if any!

Immediately springing to mind is the 'Speakers' claim for re-imbursement of a non-existent Mortgage payment, and it being paid to him - seemingly for many years, which says much about the 'honesty' or otherwise - of the Speaker himself, and even moreso for those 'in charge'of running and controlling the re-imbursement system - which appears entirely to be a very lax one indeed, and seemingly, considered by many as a simple 'Piggy-bank' for as and when necessary, and performing very well on that basis!


11

Boydie,

Scotland 14/03/2008 10:14:41
I think you are all being terribly unkind, it is obvious that the profits made when they sell their second homes - that we have paid to modernise, will be handed back to the tax payer. So there will be no net gain for the politicians!
12

Gothic Rose,

14/03/2008 10:38:32
16#Boydie.
Really,is that a fact?
13

Boydie,

Scotland 14/03/2008 10:45:37
It comes from the same school of thought that to help the environment all politicians will ditch their gas guzzlers and replace them with cars in the lowest emission groups. You know lead from the front and set an example for us all to follow. That is why we all look up to them.
14

Gothic Rose,

14/03/2008 11:19:38
18#

Uhhhhhuuu,Who would expect anything else.
15

long live the supermarkets,

Dundee 14/03/2008 11:34:49
How do politicans sleep at night easy when we are paying one thousand pounds for a bed.For the price of a politician's bed you could fit out two whole bedrooms from a shop in the centre of our town.Where do they shop in Harrods.
16

Brian Ferrari,

14/03/2008 12:23:30
#20 Very well, I would imagine
17

Sanny,

14/03/2008 12:59:06
Scotland has the right idea where all Holyrood MP's are required to fully justify their expenses - the housing racket is to finish at the end of this session. The Westminster MP's are terrified at the thought that they might have to follow the Scots example.

On accommodation: - there is nothing innovative in the civil service owning a hotel. When I transferred from Dounreay to Winfrith (UKAEA), for the first three months I stayed at a government run 5* Hotel in Bournemouth. This Hotel also housed many of the scientist on secondment from European countries.

Why cannot we do the same for our politicians. Perhaps if they live together and eat together and can talk to each other in an informal atmosphere we just might achieve better government.
18

Wuerzburg,

Germany . 14/03/2008 13:00:17
Its the nature of all beings to look after themselves first . In so far as politicians are concerned , ofcourse they are going to take advantage of the gravy train , a gravy train they designed by them . Who wouldn´t ? You patriots ? Ofcourse its corruption , but mankind is corrupt and without much hope . The only difference in Britain is that sometimes politicians get caught out . Not much , but sometimes .
19

Wuerzburg,

Germany . 14/03/2008 13:01:32
Its the nature of all beings to look after themselves first . In so far as politicians are concerned , ofcourse they are going to take advantage of the gravy train , a gravy train they designed . Who wouldn´t ? You patriots ? Ofcourse its corruption , but mankind is corrupt and without much hope . The only difference in Britain is that sometimes politicians get caught out . Not much , but sometimes .
20

BigKennyMac,

14/03/2008 13:26:51
unbelievable. This jumped up 'cooncil' that is the scottish nationalist parliament has been shown up for the scam that it really is. people getting involved so they can get a 'free' 6 grand kitchen.

What a joke. Your Parliament is at Westminster.

Big Kenny Bluenose
21

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 14/03/2008 13:38:54
I'm too old to be a footie player but I wouldn't mind becoming an MP. Having no political affiliation I will stand for any party that will have me (just like too many already in Westminster) I'll grovel to my party leader and do what I'm told, anything to get my hands on the loot.
On second thoughts, I doubt if I could live with myself if I joined this bunch of self-seeking hypocritical no-users. It's twice as bad when you realise that their leader is the son of a Scottish manse. In fact it's an utter disgrace and it's a pity that Brown, Darling and co. can't have their nationality annulled for they're all charlatans who bring disgrace upon Scotland.
22

Paddi,

14/03/2008 16:46:58
#22 Sanny, MSP's housing allowances will come to an end in 2011.

MP's can claim £10k for a new kitchen EVERY year, i would love to know how many of them have, EVERY YEAR

23

sparti,

glasgow 16/03/2008 15:38:28
and the world slaughtered poor saddam for having gold taps ..while just around the corner ..people where starving to death..i mean it really is hard being a an msp ..all these functions and dinner parties ..i feel they should also get a slaters clothing allowance ..hey and they also want hollyrood beamed live to there local boozer ..yeh why not ..get pissed and watch work at the same time ..in fact it should be a free bar
24

sparti,

16/03/2008 16:04:44
<26> ioppa jock ..yeh you can be an mp ..you dont need to have grades ...but i must warn you ..you do need to lay some real thick bullshit on ..i mean you do need to be a convincing lier ..good luck

 

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