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Weir poised for new Rangers contract after excellent season



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Published Date: 23 June 2008
RANGERS defender David Weir is poised to sign a new one-year contract this week, with manager Walter Smith convinced the veteran can perform at the highest level for at least another campaign.





The 38-year-old former Everton centre-back was a key member of the Rangers side who came up just short of a four-trophy season and the club are eager to keep him on board.

Weir played 60 club matches last season, establishing an instant
understanding with Spaniard Carlos Cuellar, and was also a regular in Scotland's Euro 2008 qualifying campaign. Completing negotiations with Weir should be among the more straightforward tasks Rangers face this summer.

While their search for a creative midfielder continues, there is the strong likelihood the Ibrox club will receive a further bid from Cardiff for striker Kris Boyd in the coming days.

Rangers have turned down an initial offer from the ambitious FA Cup runners-up and are apparently highly reluctant to part with a player who hit 25 goals last season despite making just 23 starts. However the Welsh team may not drop their interest and they were spending this weekend considering their next move.

A move to Cardiff may hold little appeal to Boyd unless he is told his prospects of first-team football at Rangers are bleak. He has, on more than one occasion, stated he wishes to stay with the club he has always supported.

Chairman Sir David Murray does not want to see the former Kilmarnock frontman leave, and Smith could spring a surprise by making the man who spent much of last season on the bench the new focal point of his attack for the coming campaign. Rangers sold Scotland defender Alan Hutton to Tottenham in January once the price reached a level they could not afford to turn down, but unless the offers for Boyd soar well above the £2.5million level offered at this stage there seems little prospect of a sale.

Boyd has age in his favour as he maps out his future. Daniel Cousin, 31, and Jean-Claude Darcheville, who turns 33 next month, may now be more vulnerable to being moved on than the Scot. Cousin, who was a target for Fulham last season, is thought unlikely to start the season with the CIS Cup and Scottish Cup winners.

However, Darcheville has vowed to fight for his place at Rangers and insists the arrival of three new strikers will not tempt him to seek a move. Kenny Miller, Andrius Velicka and Kyle Lafferty will be vying for selection to Smith's attack next season after agreeing to join Rangers in the past fortnight.

But French frontman Darcheville is ready for the challenge of taking on the new arrivals and is determined to stay and fight for his place after enjoying his first campaign at Ibrox.

"The fact Rangers have brought in three new strikers doesn't worry me – it excites me," he said. "It's fantastic news that the club is looking to strengthen and that's why I will be there next season.

"I see a lot of potential at Rangers, I love the club and I am settled in Scotland. I don't want to leave."

Meanwhile, Filip Sebo last night paid tribute to Rangers supporters, after quitting Ibrox last month in a £1 million move to French side Valenciennes.

Sebo, who flopped at Rangers after former Ibrox manager Paul Le Guen paid £1.8 million to Austria Vienna two years ago, said he would love to come back to Glasgow to thank the supporters for their support.

The striker said: "They are so important for me. Even now, being in France, I think about them. We will meet again, I promise."





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  • Last Updated: 22 June 2008 10:22 PM
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1

Silence of the Yams,

23/06/2008 00:10:40
Sebo is the ideal Scotland's Shame signing.
2

jerrymanders,

Laugherty? 23/06/2008 00:20:13
This just gets better and better.
3

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23/06/2008 00:36:41
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old firm-,

23/06/2008 00:46:24
great news, weir was one of our best players last season and im delighted that he has signed on for another year
5

Richardinho,

23/06/2008 00:47:18
Good enough for Rangers. Not good enough for Scotland.
6

Fayneant,

NZ 23/06/2008 00:59:08
5 - suits me Rich - keeps him fresh for the OF games....
7

Keyboard supporter,

23/06/2008 01:14:11
Glad to see Weir staying on - Hopefully he can impart some of his experience and nous onto the likes of Webster if the latter does actually exist.

#1 - Scotlands shame - ohh the irony!
8

Fayneant,

NZ 23/06/2008 01:17:06
7 - He needs to give Webster some tips on diet - have you seen how big he's become?
9

Keyboard supporter,

23/06/2008 01:18:59
Sod the diet - tips on how to last more than 10 mins a season would be nice - the worlds first glass centre half.
10

Fayneant,

NZ 23/06/2008 01:23:18
9 - Not the first - see also Kuznetsov and Prodan
11

bring them on,

23/06/2008 02:41:54
Weir has had an outstanding professional career. One of the all time greats.

Glad he is staying. Forwards break out into a cold sweat when they know they have to play against him.
12

bring them on,

23/06/2008 06:06:14
Why is this thread under sport, but not football?
13

nineinro,

23/06/2008 07:03:28
1
Is it today that ratic sign Torres ? Bla ha ha ha ha !
Paddy who ? £100K !
14

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 08:02:26
£1m for Sebo - don't think so. Story I have heard is that Valenciennes took over his contract, which had c.£1m outstanding on it and there was no transfer fee.
15

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 08:21:04
Brilliant, the close season is becoming a belter. £4 Million to be wasted on Davies, Cousin and Darcheville to stay now would be icing on the cake.

We know that Boyd can only score against the diddy teams (ONE goal in all his games for both Killie and the the Attila's against the Champions) but he's scabbed them a fair few points. No way will K&K manage the same strike rate.

Another 500k on the fee and young Boydchenko will be 'Huttoned' doon the marble staircase quicker than you can say 'course you're part of our plans'.
16

Gertastic,

aberdeen 23/06/2008 08:31:46
you have to laugh.... all the tic fans slabbering over gers threads to slag us off. Then telling us how they will be signing... wait for it - Deco, Payvlichenko etc and then what does CEO give them... McCOURT for £150,000 !!! Blue chip or what?? Wheres the world class signings guys ?????
17

Dark Horse,

23/06/2008 08:49:09
#15

"We know that Boyd can only score against the diddy teams.."

Gets his fair share against the tainted league winners ...so you are spot on there.
18

Dark Horse,

23/06/2008 08:53:13
#16

Of greater concern to the CEO of the Institite of Sporting Integrity is the inability to move on the millstone in the form of Balde, Graveson, Donati and Brown. Can't be far of a £100k a week for that lot.

You forgot the "big signing" news...MacDonald.
19

Pat the Hat,

Cloud Nine 23/06/2008 09:04:34
#12 – Why is this thread under sport, but not football? It should be filed under anti-football! lol!

#13 – Still suffering, I see. Love it!

#17 – Gets his fair share? I think you'll find he has scored ONE in his life for both Killie and Anti-Football FC, and he scabbed that one.
20

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 09:18:53
#16 You know, the predaliction of the Attila's to go gum-bumping before the shot develops (as they say in snooker) never ceases to amaze. Two decent results in the CL group stages and you took the p1ss relentlessly out of the hoops, THEN what happened?
What was it? 6 points ahead with two games in hand and the moon howling was unbelievable, you never learn do ye's?
As losers, YOUR season may be starting very soon so you have to hoover up the dross that's not meaningfully employed..........but being Champions means we can scout in slightly more loftier company at our leisure. McCourt is a no risk venture from the petty cash tin.
21

nineinro,

23/06/2008 09:26:17
20
Face the truth ya mug ... the plc won`t allow you tae waste any more money and unless you sell you can`t buy ! You can`t buy Drogba LOL until you sell Arty Farty tae Father Martin for an over inflated fee !
On the other hand we are spending millions on squad players and the spending has only just begun ! Happy days !
22

Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 10:02:23
Where are all the bluechip signings promised by Mr Liewell?

The celtic radar system can only find a player from Derry City?

Hardly earth shattering eh?

When do the Celts get back from Japan by the way?
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23/06/2008 10:05:42
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23/06/2008 10:07:48
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nineinro,

23/06/2008 10:11:48
Celtic need at least 6 new players if they want tae compete with Rangers next season. GK , Full back ,CD,2X Midfield and a striker ! The trouble is that they can`t shift the duds like Donati, Naylor,Brown, Caldwell, Verypoor, Graveson and Balde. They may get around £7m tae 10M for McGeady and Boruc combined but it`s not much when you then need tae buy at least six players ! The delusional Cyber crew should brace themselves for some Bosmans and the odd loan deal ! Can you smell the coffee yet or are you still getting stale Guinness ?
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23/06/2008 10:17:21
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 10:27:08
#21 Ninny, you carry on "spending millions on squad players" hahahaha, you really are priceless.

#22 I'd be happy to start the season with the team we won the league with, it's easily capable of doing the 4th.

IF, however we DO buy it will be adding to a good squad, unlike the Attila's who need a complete rework.

Broadfeet......Dross
Webster.....A poor man's Pressley
Weir.....SAGA
Dailly....SAGA
Cuellar....Newcastle, or first highest bidder, will be found out without massed defence in front of him.
Ferguson.....Glass ankles and past it.
Thompson......Lightweight.
Hemdani.....Offski.
Buffel.....Offski.
Adam.....Morton, not fit enough for SPL.
Papac.....Average.
Cousin......Offski.
Boyd......Offski.
Darcheville......Offski (only good for 45 mins a game).
Novo......Losing the plot.
McCulloch.....Injury prone now and dross anyway.
Davies......Won't be coming unless Boyd gets 'Huttoned' doon the marble staircase.
28

Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 10:39:28
#27 Chucky

Surely your ambition for this season is higher than 4th place?

As Nervous Bear rightly says, Celtic are no hunting for players in the minor leagues. Or is that Miners Welfare leagues?

How the mighty have fallen.

I think Celtics radar needs an upgrade.



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nineinro,

23/06/2008 10:58:28
27
You can`t get away fae the facts and we are in fact spending millions on squad players as Lafferty and Miller will not be our 1st choice strikers in most games ! What you lot find hard tae take is that we are still the market leaders and the reality is Bosman`s and Loan deals for Celtic ! Your attempt at deflection is poor even by your standards as you have cut & paste that old post a hundred times already ! Can you feel the walls coming in inferior bhoy ? Who knows maybe this will be the day when Deco arrives ! Bla ! ha ha ha ha !
30

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 11:00:25
#28. I keep warning you mob about moon-howling too early but you just won'listen, will ye?

After this season you'd think you'd have learned but nope, the bone sookers and face combers are at it already.

We understand the need for rearangers to get their dross in early, losing the league has DIRE consequences for pre-season training and squad buying but please remember the Champions are still on holiday.
31

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 11:05:20
#29 "players as Lafferty and Miller will not be our 1st choice strikers"

I don't think they'd be ANYBODIES 1st choice strikers hahahahahaha.

The Celtic squad as it stands would win the SPL this season.......Buying more quality would always be good.

The blip in our season was caused by losing ALL the fullbacks and keeper at the same time, such freakish injuries will not happen this season. 4 in a row is a cert.
32

nineinro,

23/06/2008 11:18:35
31
Last season you only won by default because Rangers were over stretched and played a record 68 games. On an average season and with the average games being lower everyone and anyone wae half a fitba brain knows that Rangers would have won last year at a canter and by at least 10 points ! The reality that you continually fail tae see is that Boruc is off along wae McGeady and Naka and you will be even weaker next season than you were last. If WGS can manage tae get 6 quality players in on a budget of less than £10M then maybe Celtic will make a fight of it !
33

Royalty,

23/06/2008 11:56:15
I like the way Rangers are going about there business.

Players are being signed, sealed & delivered.

Celtics radar is apparently in everdrive yet only Pat McCourt, from Derry City has been signed.

Have the Kellys rejoined the board or something?

Every player linked with a move to Celtic quickly knocks them back.

Rangers will make big transfer moves this summer, I feel it in my bones.
34

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 12:07:30
#32 rearangers lost the league last year because they were not good enough to win away from home AT ANY TIME IN THE SEASON.

If any Celtic players go it will be for top dollar as the players mentioned have recently signed long contract extentions (like players do when lookin for a move, right? Doh!!!), that's fitba.

The loss of McCurry and Stuart Dougal is a shot in the arm to rearangers opponents, I imagine Dundee Utd fans will be particularly delighted.

#33 "I like the way Rangers are going about there business"
So do I, £7 Million worth of players that wouldn't get in a hoops side, love it.
35

nineinro,

23/06/2008 12:09:28
I think that the lack of input fae the usual Celtic minded on here tells it`s own story ! Reality bites !
Bosman`s and loan deals wae the odd lower division addition is al they can expect and as the icing on the cake it`s Chesney that has tae do the wheeling and dealing ! LOL
36

nineinro,

23/06/2008 12:15:36
34
Serial denier ! Unable tae see the true picture or look at situations from a reasoned position ! Celtic will not get more than £10M for McGeady and Boruc although you deluded mhedia led mugs actually believe that it`s £10M each ! Will Brown be given the 1st choice goalie position or will Celtic sign some lower league reserve goalie fae someone like Oldam ?
37

nineinro,

23/06/2008 12:20:19
* h
38

nineinro,

23/06/2008 12:24:20
34
Like Petrov did ... Doh ! Come in Father Martin ... do you have that idiotic American owner`s cheque book cos we need tae get Arty into the EPL or we`ll have another Balde situation on our hands ! Bla ! Ha ha ha ha !!! Doh !
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 23/06/2008 12:25:59
threads like this keep me cheered over the close season...weir played better and more than i would have imagined but was starting to look his age near the end of the season ..rangers signings look dubious on paper..3 strikers who have hardly scored throughout their careers..(although i think velicka could be ok)
but hurt rangers fans slagging celtics signings so far..is pretty funny..remember guys you are doing the chasing xxx
40

nineinro,

23/06/2008 12:26:41
34 Chucky
You keep chuckin them and I`ll keep hitting the home runs ! Would you like mustard on your dog sir ?
41

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 23/06/2008 12:28:32
posts 35-38 are great but best line "Bla ! Ha ha ha ha !!! Doh ! " well its certainly going to be the gers title next season...xxx
42

jerrymanders,

23/06/2008 12:29:18
It is quite fantastic to see the drivel from Rags FC supporters. The signing season has two months still to go but they go on about one player. They have spent massively on a guy that does not score goals. In fact they have spent massively on two guys that don't score goals. Have they any intention to play 4-4-2? If they do then at last other teams may enjoy the game. Davie Weirysome is a tremendous signing, for the rest of us. Three in a row but they don't want to admit it.
43

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 23/06/2008 12:33:21
#42 but jerry dont you realise rangers have been so much more successful since the second world war !!!!!

3 in a row and loving it xxx
44

Pat the Hat,

Cloud Nine 23/06/2008 12:37:30
Hey nineinro, does your monicker refer to the first team to accomplish the feat, the pathetic second team to do it, or, as I suspect, to your brain cell count?

You truly are beyond parody.
45

nineinro,

23/06/2008 12:46:34
44 Prat in a balaclava
Celtic managed it when old football was rubbish and it was the old division 1 format without much competition ! Football was so bad back then that England even managed a world cup win ! Modern football began in the early eighties around the 82/86 world cups when speed and ability took the game tae a different level !
Rangers managed it against stong Aberdeen and DU sides as well as your poor lot fae the eastend !
You still only have £10M max tae get 6 players and Chesney is in charge of the signings ! Yea ! Ha !
46

Tuatha De Dannan,

23/06/2008 12:50:19
To all the Gers fans on here "gloating" about their signings, you need to remember our season starts a lot later than yours as we have already qualified for the champions league group stages, no worries from the green side of glasgow.

Good to see the pain is still there, it will be multiplied again this year.

Graet relief from me that we did not continue with the Lafferty deal, cant say I have seen much of him but his record is average. As for Mc Court, it is a very minor gamble on a player who has been given good reviews from all who managed him.

Don't believe all of the media bull on who Celtic are looking at, they do their business in the correct way and will only comment when the deals are done. As for selling Mc Geady, sorry guys it ain't happening. Boruc may go and if he does it will be for well above the £10M quoted. He will leave with the grateful thanks of the majority of Celtic fans and with relief by the Gers fans. To date he has been probably the best keeper at the Euros, with the possible exception of Buffon of Italy.

Looking forward to 4 in a row
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 12:53:21
#35 "I think that the lack of input fae the usual Celtic minded on here tells it`s own story ! Reality bites!"

Aye, we really DID win the league hahahaha. What a star you are Ninny......Priceless.

You've signed 3 players who wouldn't get in a Celtic side and we're supposed to be worried.

Boyd will be slung doon the marble staircase as soon as Cardiff add 500k to the kitty to enable Davies to come in, another brilliant bit of business.

Ninny, were you one of the 'loyal' that sang to Kenny at the Scottish Cup Final?

How are the Attila's going to take to a badge thumping Attila skelper?

What a great way for Kenny to break his ELEVEN match duck, against the Attila's in Paradise, gotta gie the guy credit for his determination......and great celebration.

Left hand pointing in the air and right hand pumping the badge right in front of the moon howlers. I guess it hurts a lot of you to know he left us on being advised he was 5th choice striker.

I was stunned we got £3 Million for the lad, what a great bit of business and to know that a cheque is winging Celtic's way from Ibrox as part of the sell on from Derby is so so funny.
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NemesisofWilliam,

23/06/2008 13:28:55
modern football started in the early eighties, around 82/86?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah noneinarow your priceless.

You forgetting about the dutch team in the seventies that was the beginning of today's game?

Is 1986 in the early eighties? I love reading your posts. Keep them coming. There's definitely an edinburgh festival slot for ye.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 13:39:32
20 year old Lafferty is such a bad player, Celtic offered £2.5M for the youngster.

He chose to join his boyhood heroes instead & thats what realy hurts the hoops.

I think it wll be a summer of dissapointments for the hoops.

Maybe they need a new radar.
50

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 13:40:57
#48 Be gentle with him, we don't want to chase him away, i'm really enjoying the close season.
51

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 13:44:30
#49 Am I hurt?..........Nope.

Did the price get higher for you?.......Yup.

Was I hurt when we didn't get Neighsmith......Nope.

Did the price get higher for you? .......Yup.

Was I hurt when we didn't get Thomson......Nope

Did the price get higher for you.......Yup.

See a pattern.........Nope......Rope........Dope
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 13:50:33
Was I hurt when we didn't get Brown?...Nope

Did the price get higher for you?...I'll say!

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Daillyman,

23/06/2008 13:59:40
45

I hate to disagree with a fellow bear but your post about the game and the players from the past are a wee bit of the mark. "modern football began 82/86 wc's."

There is no doubt in the modern game with the improvement of diet, fitness, equipment, facilities that todays player is a bit stronger and fitter.

Some of the top clubs in Europe in the early 70's and a little later, most with nearly 100% home grown players, having none of the amenities available to the modern day international mercenaries that are in the game today, would in a lot cases beaten a lot of the top teams in the game today, if those teams today stuck to signing domestic players.

I think the big difference in the game today with so much money on the line, a lot of clubs play not to LOSE, in days past a lot of clubs played to win matches, with exceptions always being the Italians.
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 14:01:18
#52, I know you lot don't do sympathy but I'll give the lad the benifit of the doubt that his form in the 2nd half of the season was hugely effected by the terrible tradgedy visited on him and his family.

Why were you're fans singing Brown's name at Easter Rd when you didn't want him?

You were also singing KM's name at Hampden, and you REALLY don't want him, do you? hahahaha.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 14:17:45
I think we'll have the last laugh over K Miller & he'll win over the doubters.

I have every sympathy for Scott Brown & his family.

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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 14:30:09
#57 He'll work his nuts off and chase shadows, continue to have the first touch of, no, forget that, he doesn't do first touches.

He started off on a run of ELEVEN games without a goal, then scored against rearangers (hohohoho) and continued to flatter to decieve. He DID score some good and important goals but nowhere near the quantity required by a Celtic centre forward.

He was informed he was 5th choice striker and moved to Derby, £3 Million (plus the add on from rearangers) was a great peice of business.

He's never been prolific and I doubt he'll change any, I see no reason why he should.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

23/06/2008 14:36:22
Celtic narrowly won the SPL title last season, and qualified for the knockout stages of the Champions League.

Rangers challenged strongly in the SPL, won the Scottish Cup, won the League Cup, failed narrowly in the CL group stages, and went all the way to the UEFA Cup Final.

Frankly, to describe either set of achievements as "failure" defies belief and credibility, and for either side to claim that they are on top and that the others are "chasing" can never be more than personal opinion driven by bias and wishful thinking.

I doubt if the gap between the teams is wide enough to thread a length of dental floss through, and everything will depend on how clever either WS or WGS is in improving what is already there by dipping into the transfer market.

From a Rangers viewpoint I am confident that Miller and Velicka will do a more effective job than the unfit Darchville and the disinterested Cousin. On Lafferty, I will withhold judgement, but given his tender age, I suspect he has been bought for the long term rather than the short one.

Regarding David Weir, he will give good service this season if he is not overworked, and doesn't play more than about 30 games, with good rest in between. The key may be to alternate Weir and Dailly as partners beside Cuellar, which would allow both veterans to stay relatively fresh.
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 14:53:29
a decade of dominance
David Friel
CELTIC have officially been declared as the most successful club in the 10-year history of the SPL.

Since the inception of the new league set-up in season 1998/99, Celtic have lifted the SPL title on no fewer than six occasions, with Martin O'Neill and Gordon Strachan guiding the Hoops to three championships each.

In addition, Celtic have twice lost out on the title on the final day of the league season, in 2002/03 and 2004/05, by the narrowest of margins.

Official statistics released by the league show that Celtic have played 376 games in the SPL, winning 280 of those fixtures and amassing a total of 891 points.

Rangers trail in second place, with 256 wins from 376 games. Hearts are third on the all-time list with 156 wins from 376 games.

Celtic are also the highest-scoring team in the history of the SPL. The Hoops have found the net an impressive 888 times in 10 years. Rangers have scored 799 goals.

The Hoops have also conceded the least amount of goals, 303, in the last 10 years. Rangers have let in 305 goals. Hearts have conceded 450 times.

Former Celtic striker Henrik Larsson is the top scorer in the history of the SPL with 158 goals. John Hartson bagged a total of 88 SPL goals, Scott McDonald has 67 strikes to his name, while Chris Sutton (63), Derek Riordan (59) and Stilian Petrov (55) also feature in the top 10 list of scorers.

Larsson scored a staggering 12 SPL hat-tricks for Celtic and topped the scoring charts in five of the last 10 seasons. Mark Viduka, Hartson and McDonald have also finished as the top scorer in the SPL over the last decade.

In terms of individual honours, Celtic stars, past and present, dominate the Player of the Year awards over the last 10 years.

Larsson (twice), Viduka, Sutton, Hartson, Shaun Maloney, Shunsuke Nakamura and Aiden McGeady have all been named as the SPFA Player of the Year, while Larsson (twice), Paul Lambert, Jackie McNamara, Hartson and Nakamura were n
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 14:54:33
Larsson (twice), Viduka, Sutton, Hartson, Shaun Maloney, Shunsuke Nakamura and Aiden McGeady have all been named as the SPFA Player of the Year, while Larsson (twice), Paul Lambert, Jackie McNamara, Hartson and Nakamura were named as Player of the Year by the Scottish Football Writers.

Celtic also hold the records for most points won in a season – 103 in 2001/02 – and most goals scored in a season – 105 in 2003/04. Overall, it has been a decade of dominance.

Kinda thick dental floss there hahahahaha.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 14:59:08
#60

Sure, Celtic will have a stylish side with Art & Deco in the team.

They just dont have the Monet unfortunately.

(ok Ive used this line before but I couldnt resist).
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BEMUSED EXILE,

23/06/2008 15:23:52
Jesus, was that worth all the screen space that it took up?

What Celtic did 2, 4 or 6 years ago isn't the issue, it's the fact that Rangers have caught up since WS returned.

For a "decade of dominance", your trophy advantage is pretty slim. I think, without checking, that it's 13-11 in the 21st Century.

Besides, your stats are pretty selective. They don't seem to mention which team won the SPL by a record margin, which team most recently won the treble, which team was first to qualify for the CL knockout stages, or which team most recently made it all the way to a European Final.
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 15:37:44
#65 I've a picture of Cuellar over the mantlepiece. Keeps the weans away from the fire.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 15:48:30
#66

Cuellar - a face only a mother could love.

- a player Strachan can only dream of.
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CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 15:51:14
#64 "What Celtic did 2, 4 or 6 years ago isn't the issue"

You are of course correct (but on that same vein why talk about some treble years ago?).

I'm happy to talk about being Champions this season. We made a meal of it but were hampered by freakish injuries to ALL the full backs and keeper at the same time, hopefully we can avoid that this year.

It's unusual for me not being too bothered about strangthening the side, I think the squad is good enough to win the league as it stands.

I'm one of those strange creatures who likes to see the youth emerging and with such a young squad it is great to watch them grow into a formidable side.

I'd not mind a Scottish back 4 of Caddis McManus Caldwell and Wilson

Brown Hartley Naka McGeady Robson

Sheridan or McDonald

With the reserves packed with U19's and winning 7 in a row the future is bright, thanks to the foresight of Tommy Burns.
69

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

23/06/2008 15:52:36
Davie Weir is rubbish. A career that´s spanned 18 years and 3 diddy cup medals to his name. Scott Brown and Mac Donald have more league medals that Davie Weir can ever hope for.

He threw his very dirty water out the bath when he turned his back on Scotland. The deep Donkey friction burns gained with his association with the mafia for the mediocre assured that he´d be re invited to the Scotland setup. No wonder Walter Smith and Eck Mc Leish have no problem signing the traitorous has-been as it will keep the Ibrox numpties in a state of Euphoria. Them having the second best defence in the SPL last year etc.

Weir has been carried his whole career by Pressley, Stubbs, Cuellar etc. A weak man and a poor player

Even Davies wife and kids dont want him near them
70

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 15:55:58
#67 (LOVE that number).....He's not good enough to wear the hoops.

He (and Weir) are found out when you try and play anything other than 4-5-1 with the midfield 5 backed up.

Cuellar is absolutely average when attacked at pace on the deck and even 1st Division sides filled their boots when 4-5-1 wasn't used.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

23/06/2008 15:59:23
Figures released by UEFA show Celtic benefited from their second successive qualification for the knock-out phase to the tune of £10.3million.

Rangers earned £7.7million from their involvement in the Champions League group stages, though they also brought in £4.1million from their run to the UEFA Cup final.

Rangers earned 500k + 1 riot more in Europe than wht Celtic did.

What happened to the projected 30m ?
72

Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 15:59:25
#69

Anton Rogan probably has more medals than Alan Shearer.

By your logic that makes Rogan a better player?





73

BEMUSED EXILE,

23/06/2008 16:00:22
chucky

Rangers haven't put much stock in the Reserve League in recent years. They've used the team as a vehicle for giving games to random first team squad players who are returning from injury or who don't see much first team football and need to stay sharp.

They've just announced that they intend to field an under-20 side in the SPL Reserve League next season. They certainly have some seriously talented youngsters judging by their domination of the Youth scene for the last couple of seasons and the amount of young 'Gers who routinely represent Scotland at Under-16, Under-18 etc.

I'd actually be pretty confident about this season myself if I knew that we could stay relatively injury-free and wouldn't have to play a ridiculous amount of competitive fixtures again, but any new additions just increase the feelgood factor.
74

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

23/06/2008 16:01:25
Davie Wier couldn´t kiss Anton Rogans hiney
75

BEMUSED EXILE,

23/06/2008 16:09:50
#71

You're only quoting the payments direct from UEFA.

You can add to that the receipts from 9 home ties, with probably something in the region of 400,000 paying fans in attendance.

At an average ticket price of £15, that's an additional £6 million. At an average ticket price of £20, that's an additional £8 million.

Then there's the TV money which ran into millions. RFC famously turned down almost an extra million from German TV in return for kicking off their away match against Bremen a couple of hours early. We could go on; the Final in particular shifted a helluva lot of merchandise, and Rangers get extra money from JJB when retail sales exceed agreed figures.

The total figure will be well in excess of £20 million.
76

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

23/06/2008 16:23:56
and the 9m for Hutton makes it 29m

lets say that Davis costs 4m

so we are on 25m

Take six away for Miller, Lafferty and Velicka

and we are on 19m

400,000 paying fans at 15 quid+TV revenue - whatever VAT is in Britain these days+police costs and stewarding + Bonus payments to players etc.

I think we´re looking at Rangers turning a 15m profit.

Let see what Sir Minty Moonbeams come up with


77

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 16:24:40
#73 The Scottish u19 side that went to the final of the European Champs fielded 7 Celts.

Unfortunately the pick of the bunch, Ferry and Grant, sustained what may prove to be career ending injuries and as a direct consequence the Scots fared rather poorly at the u20 world cup, such is the thin line of 'making it' or not at that age.
78

Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/06/2008 16:25:33
#74

Rogan? surely you josh!

Think your trying to curry favour.

Next you'll be saying Packora Bonnar was a decent goalie.

Im having nan of it.
79

CHUCKY,

23/06/2008 16:26:54
Celtic did not do well financially from the march to the UEFA cup final, even with the massive clout of two 'Battle of Britain' games.

Serious dosh is in the CL.......For better or worse.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

23/06/2008 16:34:30
#76

Absolutely. We're talking additional income here, not pure profit. I don't think that anyone has pretended otherwise. It is a spectacularly profitable season though, when you add the Hutton money into the equation.

As I've said before recently, I reckon that the Boyd, Sebo and Cousin sale money will finance the purchase of their replacements, Miller, Lafferty and Velicka.

How much SDM gives WS beyond that to strengthen other areas, we will have to wait and see. One thing is for sure though, with the money from last season in the bank, and a couple of potentially very valuable playing assets in Cuellar and McGregor, he's in a stroger position than he's been in for quite a while.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

23/06/2008 16:37:44
#78 LOL

I´ll accept that Andy Garam Masla was better than big Pakora but Weir is too Gobi for my liking. A sqaud roti policy should help
82

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

23/06/2008 16:40:22
#80,

aye and I have been waiting for Balde and Graveson to get off the wage bill...keep on dreaming

I think you´ll be saddled with Cousin and Darcheville. Buffel also will hang around 17k a week. Hemdani .. what´s the score there? Alan should I say or Should I Gow?

interesting times
83

nineinro,

23/06/2008 16:51:10
54
I know you are old school Dailly but I was even giving the guys at Spain 82 the benefit of the doubt when in fact it was really 86 that the modern era took off ! Maradonna changed the game with power and pace and modern football was born ! I am aware of many great players before but I am of the belief that football was much slower pre 82/86 ! It`s fantasy tae think that the guys from the 70`s like Colin Jackson and Derek Johnstone were near the fitness and technique of some of the poorest modern footballers ! Gary Caldwell excluded !
84

jerrymanders,

23/06/2008 17:24:21
#83

Gary Caldwell, part of the best SPL defence and League Winner?
85

nineinro,

23/06/2008 17:35:31
84
It`s easy when you play in a back seven ... that includes the ref and two linestims !
86

jerrymanders,

23/06/2008 18:10:59
#85

Aye, just ask Dundee Utd.
87

Daillyman,

23/06/2008 18:29:57
83

In my post @54 I said the same thing regarding diet, fitness, training methods and todays modern equipment.


Tough to compare players from different times, everyone has a subjective opinion that they are entitled to.
88

nineinro,

23/06/2008 18:46:10
87
It`s fine Dailly I know that you old boys can`t see past Wullie Henderson but that`s what fitba is all about ... opinions ! The original debate was that Prat the hat said Celtic`s 9 in row was a harder achievement and in reality it wasn`t as 1 Old football was rubbish and 2 The league was weaker when Celtic done it and the teams only played each other twice a season !
86
I` would rather ask Murphy or Clarke or Brines or even Smith ... and the list goes on ! Every game last season I think and we get a dodgy decision once in a while like all teams and it`s a conspiracy ! Yawn !
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23/06/2008 18:52:24
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jerrymanders,

23/06/2008 18:57:38
#88

Total garbage.
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23/06/2008 19:20:32
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nineinro,

23/06/2008 19:25:55
90
Truth hurts eh ! Jer !
93

BEMUSED EXILE,

23/06/2008 19:35:27
Far be it from me to side with the Celtic-minded, but I have to agree that Celtic's 9-in-a-row was a greater achievement than Rangers equivalent run all those years later.

Firstly, big money transfers and an influx of big-name foreigners hadn't really been invented yet, so it was a much more even playing field, with all teams by and large recruiting locally, and not spending a lot of money to do it (PS playing each other 4 times doesn't make a league tougher, only more boring).

Celtic's European Cup triumph in 1967, followed by another Final in 1970 and a penalty kick semi-final exit in 1972 bears testament to their excellence on the highest stage, while Rangers runs to the ECWC Finals in 1967 and 1972 shows that they were no slouches either. Indeed, they came very close to pipping Celtic for the league on 3 or 4 occasions during that NIAR run.

I can't comment on how that team would fare against a team from a different era, but that's an irrelevance anyway. All you can do is be the best during your own time.
94

Daillyman,

23/06/2008 20:17:42
88

Bring up Henderson was good, he was a good winger, but to me Jinky was better. As Bemused said all you can be is the best of you're era.

As for old football being rubbish again you're opinion, being 55 I have been lucky to see a lot of good teams and players, from Real Madrid to Eusebio led Benfica, Ajax with the Dutch masters and Bayern with Muller, and the early dynasty that became Liverpool, in my humble opinion if they played today with all the benefits of the modern game those clubs would have given any team today a competitive game. And has been stated earlier most of those team had a majority of home grown players.

But I respect your opinion.
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jerrymanders,

23/06/2008 20:47:06
Excellent comments from #93 and #94

ps #88 I don't respect your opinion

 

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