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Focus on 'Fred the Shred' after Royal Bank losses



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Published Date: 01 October 2008
THE global maelstrom continues. Bank share prices are on a daily rollercoaster. And those rescue rights issues shoring up balance sheets in the summer seem a distant memory.
Royal Bank of Scotland has been plunged back into the spotlight over the past two days with an aggregate 14 per cent – nearly £5 billion – slashed from its share price. Last night the shares closed at 179p, down 1 per cent. They fell 13 per cent on Monday.

City analysts say RBS has been hit by the twin blows of the failure of the US bail-out, and concerns about whether the nationalisation of Belgo-Dutch banking giant Fortis will hit the Scottish bank, its partner in a buy-out of ABN Amro.

The fall has led some in the City to again question whether RBS's chief executive, Sir Fred Goodwin, is the man to steer the embattled bank through this convulsed financial landscape.

Some in the Square Mile believe not. Sir Fred was the man – "not desperately patient" as one associate described him – who pressed ahead with the expensive purchase of ABN Amro (as part of a consortium with Fortis and Santander) even after the credit crunch broke in 2007.

Critics in the City said it was another example of "serial acquirer" hubris unsuited to the insecure banking climate. To them, Sir Fred is a "war general", with greater aptitude for acquiring assets than managing a bank through a severe downturn. Many in the City also cannot forgive Sir Fred's perceived U-turn on RBS's £12 billion rights issue earlier this summer.

One City banking analyst said: "I'm amazed Fred is still there actually, primarily for the ABN purchase. It was for top-dollar and at the wrong time."

Another said: "His (Sir Fred's] credibility has obviously been damaged over the past year."

But not everyone agrees. Others think it would be folly to change the admiral in the middle of high seas. One RBS follower in the City said: "It is fair to say the clock is ticking. But nobody doubts Goodwin's ability to cut costs – that's where he got his 'Fred the Shred' nickname."

One banker added: "Fred is a pretty tough cookie. Part of him would be in his element in this sort of situation." Another said: "It is in Sir Fred's favour in these times – the City might think, 'Better the devil you know'."

But Sir Fred would not be human if, after a stellar banking career, he was not hurt that people are questioning his credentials. He joined accountants Touche Ross from Glasgow University, winning his spurs as chief operating officer of the worldwide liquidation of Bank of Credit & Commerce International in 1990, aged just 32.

He became deputy chief executive of Clydesdale Bank in 1995, and chief executive a year later. In 1998 he was poached by RBS and took the top job in 2001.

Yesterday, RBS moved quickly to try to limit the damage from the initial market "read-across" of the part-nationalisation of Fortis by the Belgian, Dutch and Luxembourg governments.

That requires Fortis to sell the ABN Amro assets it bought as part of the RBS consortium last year. RBS said in a statement to the Stock Exchange that Fortis had already paid in full in cash for its ABN Amro stake, which is held in RFS Holdings, the consortium vehicle.

RBS said: "Should it sell this holding, the financial consequences would lie with Fortis."

Alex Potter, a banking analyst at broker Collins Stewart, agreed the Fortis relevance to RBS was exaggerated. He said: "I don't see how RBS can lose."

Meanwhile, some point out that even if Sir Fred does eventually depart, there will be financial consolation – his total pay was £4.2 million in 2007, made up of a basic salary of £1.29 million, a £2.86 million performance bonus, plus a £1.3 million boost to his pension pot.


The full article contains 661 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

W Smith,

Middle East 01/10/2008 06:15:08
The last paragraph smacks of socialist envy.

Compared to socialists like Alex Ferguson and Sean Connery, Mr Godwin is the poor cousin.

The combined wealth of the these two kiddy-on socialists Connery and Ferguson must be at least £130 million with Connery's wealth coming in at around £80 million.

Our Fred never claimed to be a socialist.
2

Linda,

Edinburgh 01/10/2008 07:36:25
A great idea from SNP and this must be put in place to-day to save HBOS from further meltdown.

I hope those journalists and politicians who mocked Alex Salmond for saying an independent Scotland could not save HBOS (at an alleged figure of £100 billion) will now apologise.

The Irish government has guaranteed all (100%) deposits in Irish banks and all money borrowed by the banks from other financial institutions to the extent of £320 billions.
3

drunken proffet,

Tassy 01/10/2008 07:45:06
Well you all seem to know who got you into this mess. Keeping in mind that Mr Fred Goodwin has a proven record in banking albeit as a war general, who have you got in mind to get you out of it and what should his qualifications be?
4

Duncan in Edinburgh,

01/10/2008 08:09:07
#3 Are you cross-posting again Linda? This post didn't make much sense on the article you originally commented on, but on this one it is meaningless - there is no "idea" from the SNP in this article.

You are playing politics here just like your leader.
5

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 01/10/2008 08:25:43
4# According to the RBS website it only has a "percentage stake in one bank on the Island of Ireland: Ulster Bank, which is the smallest of the 3 Irish clearing banks."

In the past 10 years, like many other U.K. financial institutions, the RBS Group management recklessly overstretched their business, and now risk a domino effect collapse!

The FTSE has just opened and bank shares are jittery!
6

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 01/10/2008 08:49:49
7 Lachie
Fred the Shred has made the classic error so often seen in business. He assumed that the good times would go on and on and that this would allow him to continue on his predatory trail.

He launched the bid for ABN Amro at the top of the market. Just a few days ago, Fortis one of RBS' partners in the bid had to be bailed out by the Belgian govt. Let us hope that RBS does not run into the same troubles but I am not entirely confident.
7

The Strategist,

01/10/2008 08:59:44
Fred the Shred and Gordon Brown make good partners.

Neither have brought any real benefit to the Scottish economy and both should be fired without compensation.
8

The Nightmare on Wall Street,

Gogarburn 01/10/2008 09:09:22
Perhaps Fred should be shredded and shedded?
9

Mike S,

01/10/2008 09:11:24
I remember writing at the time of the ABN Amro takeover saying remember the Darien Scheme. Feckless business men trying to build an empire in foreign lands with no thought of the consequences. If I could see it how come the vastly overpaid bankers ( not rhyming slang I trust)could not. Incompetence at lowere levels results in a sacking why not at the top?
10

Big T,

01/10/2008 09:31:01
And there you have it - all that STINKS in the financial sector.

£1.29M salary, £1.3M personal pension contribution and £2.86M for a PERFORMANCE bonus!!!

Performance bonus!!! Frankly the greed of these guys disgust me.
11

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 01/10/2008 09:38:35
The FTSE only opened a short time ago and RBS and HBOS shares are once again under severe pressure!

According to CNN, another investment bank has collapsed in the US!
12

The Nightmare on Wall Street,

The Newbridge Roundabout 01/10/2008 09:57:26

...and according to Sky News US$16.2 billion needed by RBS from the US$700 billion if Paulson (ex Goldman Sachs investmnt banker) can persuade Congress to bailout the banks using US taxpayers money. So what other write downs are needed if this does not go through? And if it does goes through how will RBS tackle the EU State Aid implications if they are forced to pay it all back? Previous directors and auditors reports are going to make interesting reading.

13

Buttweld,

Gruinard 01/10/2008 10:05:54
All that Fred has shredded is the RBS shareprice. He should be paid all but £200,000 in RBS shares with no option to sell for 5 years.
14

David55,

London 01/10/2008 13:50:12
Does anyone think the RBS will get into serious difficulties, or am I ok to buy some cheap shares?
15

SkeptikScot,

01/10/2008 14:15:28
Surely RBS would not wish to get rid of 'Fred the Shred' just as the $700 billion deal might be about to go through? RBS are probably the biggest *potential* UK recipients from the fund. Things could look very different if some sort of exchange of toxic debt could be arranged.

16

Buckpool Loon,

Cheshire 01/10/2008 14:59:55
Whether he 'shreds' or not events have proved he's not worth £4million, and the non executive directors of all the banks have the same intellectual capacity as the logo of a well known insurance provider.
17

PaulB,

Edinburgh 01/10/2008 15:31:33
What have the Scotsman got against RBS - every day they try and do the bank, and specifically Sir Fred down - this story is a classic case - full of anonymous sources and un-named experts afraid to be named - what a load of dross! The bank will do very well in the long term as the benefits of its expansion become obvious, once this crisis has passed. Wish I had money to buy some shares as I think they will be a great long-term investment. Stop doing down a successful Scottish business! (I do not work for RBS, but have accounts with them.)
18

vinnie52,

Gogarbunker 01/10/2008 21:14:02
To quote Alastair Campbell, unfortunately Shred & McPillock are now 'the story' and until some movement is seen at the top the City will relentlessly pursue their prey.

Bottom line I feel is, for all the puff about changing the captain, that Fred has no track record whatsoever for integrating a foreign bank. Judging on recent track record suggests that he would rather surround himself with yes-men than seek out true independently minded talent with experience of what it takes to accomplish such a complex task.

Of course the reality is that RBS remains a pretty well run Bank operationally but with leadership that has lost the trust of the City. Bit like NatWest...
19

famous 15,

Edinburgh 01/10/2008 22:59:34
In four years the RBS will surpass last year's high and the dividends will , in the interim, keep us old timer savers quite happy. Thank you all very much.

 

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