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RBS accused of 'siege mentality' as it heads for biggest UK banking loss



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Published Date: 04 August 2008
The RBS management team is coming under increasing pressure over its strategy post-credit crunch Picture: AP
ROYAL Bank of Scotland's senior management was last night accused of developing a "siege mentality" as the bank battles to counter allegations of U-turns over the implementation of its post-credit crunch strategy.

The criticism, from one of the Ed
inburgh-headquartered banks' institutional investors, came ahead of Friday's expected announcement of a loss of between £1 billion and £1.5bn by the bank. If the figure is confirmed it would be the largest loss in UK banking history.

Such an announcement in the half-year results would further increase the pressure on Sir Fred Goodwin, the RBS group chief executive, and Sir Tom McKillop, the chairman, who have been heavily criticised by some City investors.

The duo, under pressure for RBS's part in the £72bn purchase of ABN Amro last year as the credit crunch bit, are expected to deny that the board has made a series of damaging U-turns in strategy.

However, this explanation has not found favour with investors. One institutional stock holder told The Scotsman yesterday: "The denial of U-turns shows a siege mentality in the bank.

"They have changed their strategy and gone back on things they said. It is ridiculous to deny it, and they are under pressure."

The investor added: "Launching the consortium bid for ABN was a huge U-turn.

"They were trying to resurrect their reputation as a bank that could grow organically, that they were not deal junkies. So people were bound then to struggle with both the bid and the top price paid."

The investor maintained that the recent £12bn rights issue so soon after Goodwin had maintained RBS was adequately capitalised was also a volte-face.

RBS would not comment yesterday.



But Goodwin is expected to urge the City to focus instead on the underlying performance of RBS in the first six months of the year, when it is thought to have made a profit, stripping out the write-offs, of about £4.9bn.

One banking executive said: "In RBS's position it will want to stress that, under the bonnet, things are going well in terms of underlying earnings.

"Goodwin will say the headline loss is pretty much historic news as it could have been guessed from the time the write-offs figure was announced earlier this year."

Goodwin is expected to repeat on Friday that reaching the desired capital ratio of 6 per cent by the year-end is not dependent on any one disposal.

Speculation that RBS is also considering the sale of its 5 per cent stake in Bank of China, which it acquired three years ago, is wide of the mark.

The stake, which has gained £2.8bn in value since, is still understood to be strategic within the bank.





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  • Last Updated: 03 August 2008 9:06 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Bank of Scotland
 
1

henrymanchester,

UK 04/08/2008 03:50:41
Not to worry the government will give them some of our money, no problem!

They just need to tax the air we breath, or sell it to France or something.

2

Dijit,

Glasgow 04/08/2008 08:14:42
The government won't need to give them any. They are doing fine.

This is a world class business which is suffering from ill informed press comments and negative sentiment on the stock market.
Remember the worst thing that happens on the market is when prices don't move. Markets make money whether prices rise or fall just as long as they stay moving.
3

The Strategist,

04/08/2008 08:32:30
We need a new bank in Scotland. The ones we have are broken and don't in any case work in Scotland's interest.
4

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 04/08/2008 09:08:11
I love this , hope it will wipe the smirk off all those arrogant young faces on the buses to Gogarburn . Get the oldies back in charge .
5

Andra, Dundee,

04/08/2008 09:53:25
#3 The Stategist,
Off you go then - see you back here when you've done it.
Don't expect to be bailed out by the government if you find the existing banks don't give you any customers and then you go bust.
Good luck!
6

iain,

edinburgh 04/08/2008 11:33:30
WHEN WILL THE LEADING EXECUTIVES IN THESE BANKS LOSE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THE BAD JOB THEY HAVE DONE?
7

Tris,

04/08/2008 14:15:21

6

Probably never.
8

Hmmm!!!!,

04/08/2008 15:39:26
Agreed, if you or I did a bad job, we'd be hauled in front of management and run over hot coals.
9

david hill,

huddersfield & Bern 04/08/2008 16:07:56
Britain is in for the worst economic hammering it has witnessed since the end of WW2.

In this respect there are now major pointers emerging, which should send shivers down the spines of the British electorate.

Indeed recently, the Bank for International Supplement, the organisation that fosters cooperation between central banks, has warned that the credit crisis could push world economies into a crash on a scale not seen since the Great Depression.

As an example of what the central banks are saying also, the reserve bank of India stated just 6-days ago that to address the world’s financial crisis, central bank interventions have been staggering and on a level not witnessed since the Great Depression. But will the central bank support be enough is the critical and worrying question. Indeed recently again in this respect, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) stated also that the world is witnessing the greatest shock to global finances since the 1930s. Further, central banks led by the US Federal Reserve, have already piled help and credit on the financial system over the past 12-months, as they did again only this week, to nurse it through this pending economic disaster. Therefore this need will certainly arise continuously to weather the storm, if we can, as the pointers are looking very bleak indeed. Now unfortunately adding to this, the problems are spreading with evidence that started as a financial-sector crisis is just starting into a business crisis. Indeed with no finance, business will find it hard to survive and with the size of HBOS's recent failure to raise funds together with the price of underwriting an issue, it will be impossible for others to do likewise from now on. Therefore our banks will have major liquidity problems and failures for many years to come. Indeed, they will probably not stabilise again for at least a decade. For as Capitol Economics stated recently, we should be preparing for recession, it's more likely than not. In this
10

david hill,

04/08/2008 16:09:04
Continued

In this respect consumers are going to get hit where it hurts by a mixture of the housing market downturn and inflation they stated. People will see growth falling from 2 per cent in 2008 to flat (zero) next year and added to this, companies will see their profits fall dramatically. Consequently one can predict that firms, due to the lack of financial stability and ‘inadequate liquidity’ of our banks, will not be able to borrow. As the financial crisis becomes a firm business crisis Capitol Economics predict unemployment will increase from 1.6 million people to 2.5 million and while falling house prices do not hit pockets, lost jobs do they say. Therefore the effects of this present financial crunch will last for years for businesses and where others will not even survive to see the recovery at all.

All this shows that financial regulators throughout the world are not robust enough and have not enough power to curb the excesses of the financial world. Governments therefore, when this is all over, should make sure this time, that the full market philosophy is kept firmly in check. If not, what we are experiencing now will happen time and time again. The ‘free’ market has got to change therefore and where the public (consumers) always learn the hard way, for they are the ones the banks really hurt and of course the ones who have to ultimately pay.

Dr David Hill
World Innovation Foundation Charity (WIFC)
Bern, Switzerland

11

McMillar,

Fife 04/08/2008 18:12:27
I’m sure no one is blaming RBS for the global downturn and they do seem to have been caught out along with many others. It’s not so easy now and will be interesting to see how they regroup and come through this. They are critical to the Scottish economy even if they do employ many trolls in Edinburgh with civil servant mentalities. Amazing how many have no idea about customer service and have prob never been within 5 management layers of meeting an actual customer. If they can tackle the basics and make sense of the global infrastructure then should be a major force. They are certainly not a Scottish bank and the growth has been staggering. Always surprised to see the share price hammered when they are trying so hard. As for the financial lectures….maybe yes maybe no. Market is too volatile to predict and is nothing more than academic exercise at the moment. What’s more interesting is the underlying platform for currency and why the squeeze is on there and it is being used to manipulate the stability of several economies + governments. Better stop, starting to bore myself here.
12

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04/08/2008 18:53:29
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13

Jimmy Twoshoes,

05/08/2008 09:01:02
Last I checked BIS was Bank for International Settlements... but then again I'm no Doctor, nor do I live in Switzerland.
14

Jimmy Twoshoes,

05/08/2008 09:10:39
Have re-read the good Dr's post, and am in agreement with McMillar here. That kind of speculation most certainly contributed to present conditions, and I think prudence and patience will see people right in time - trying to predict the sequence of events to come is a (somewhat) futile excercise.
15

Alex the wandering flanker,

Perth 05/08/2008 12:46:36
The Dr's post is a very good analysis but his conclusion is absolutely wrong.

The problem has not been that "the full market philosophy" was not adequately "kept in check" but that players in the financial markets understood that first Greenspan & then Bernanke would not countenance a financial crash. In the event that their risky postions caused problems they expected to be bailed out and becuase of this distortion to the free market they felt empowered to take a far greater degree of risk than if they had known they would have to face the full consequences themselves. The failure of Bear Sterns is a spearte case as this involves "revenge" for their refusal to join in collective rescue missions in the past.

It should be no surprise that the damage caused by the financial crises should affect the "real" economy since consumers & corporates have embraced debt so enthusiastically that the sudden withdrawal of easy credit is a shock to the system.

Ignoring what is going on in the world, in the blind faith that the markets must go up, could cost a lot of people a lot of money.
16

Jimmy Twoshoes,

05/08/2008 15:26:31
on re-re-reading the good Doctor (which after looking at his posts on numerous other news sites I actually doubt he is, but nevermind) its a complete load of nonsense.

I'm nowhere near boring enough to rip the absurdity apart on a point by point basis, but more than once he links semi-unrelated events together, draws an unreliable conclusion, then uses this as the basis to support prediction.

Load of tosh.
17

YYZ_2112,

Rosyth 06/08/2008 00:09:31
Re comment 9 & 10 the chap from Huddersfield & - Switzerland ) # 16 retort

Judging by style & way the comment by 9 & 10 has been posted, I wonder if this is a copy n paste job from some other site/forum ? Possible nicked comments ?

Hell who cares a fug. RBS will survive due to their sheer size but hopefully the two Sirs, Goodwin & McKillop will get their marching orders. And maybe Andy Hornby too fae HBOS. BTW - as a side bar, Shaun Doherty, Retail Director @ HBOS has jacked to go to Tesco Personal Finance ! A taste of things to come ?


 

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