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Published Date: 06 November 2008
THE New Zealand team to play Scotland on Saturday may contain some unfamiliar names, but one at least should be enough to warn Scottish supporters of the danger facing their team. After a year out of the side largely because of injury, Joe Rokocoko is back in black and eager to make up for lost time.
The Fiji-born winger burst on to the scene in 2003, making his debut at the age of 20, thus becoming the youngest All Black since the legendary Jonah Lomu. He scored 17 tries in 12 Tests that year – a world record – and earned a Player of the Year nomination from the International Rugby Players' Association.

Rokocoko was in the New Zealand team which competed in the World Cup that year and also in 2007. In fact, his last Test to date was last year's quarter-final in Cardiff, when New Zealand were beaten 20-18 by France.

Wrist damage ruled him out for a while after that, and he was just getting back into the swing of things when he damaged a hamstring while attempting what he described yesterday as "a stupid kick". He has thus been stuck on 48 caps for the past 12 months, and is now itching to make up for lost time.

"I've just put it all away," he said yesterday when asked about the frustrations of the past year. "I've pretty much chucked it to the back of my mind, and I'm just really looking forward to playing for the All Blacks again.

"It feels like I'm new to the team again, and I'm happy and excited to be part of the team and playing footy this weekend. There's a lot of new faces – new young guys bringing excitement and enthusiasm to the team.

"I feel fresh again after missing the Tri-Nations. It's another new challenge for me."

It will be another new challenge for the Scottish defence as well, in particular for Thom Evans, who will line up directly opposite him on the right wing. The 2008 model of Rokocoko is a more complex rugby player to the one we have seen in the past. In his early days as an international he was primarily a runner and a finisher, and did so well at those tasks that he did not have to think about learning new tricks.

Since the introduction of experimental law variations this season, however, many matches have seen a lot more kicking. As a consequence, Rokocoko and his fellow members of the back three now spend a considerable amount of time working on such matters.

"The majority of work we do after training, in a 20-minute window, it's been concentrating on kicking and high balls," he explained. "It used to be one on ones, or just passing, but now the majority is kicking.

"It's just trying to be the best you can be. You want to have a lot of things in your armoury and kicking is one of them. It's a good skill to have on board."

Even when he was a regular in the Test side, Rokocoko did not take his place for granted – an attitude which surely helped when he was no longer included. "You never own this jersey," was how he summed up his ethos. "You're more of a caretaker."

He may never thought he owned the jersey, but nor, over the past year, did he succumb to worries that he would never take care of it again. Still only 25, he is confident he has a lot more to offer at this level.

"Since last year I've just wanted to come back. I've been part of this team since 2003 and you miss it. You miss the environment, the challenges, and the big matches.

"Being chosen for this squad is a true pleasure for me, and it feels that I'm making my debut again. You know it's a special team, and I still want to be a part of it. I felt like there's no chance of leaving it yet."

A player who once harboured hopes of representing New Zealand alongside the likes of Rokocoko will be making his debut for England against the Pacific Islanders on Saturday. Riki Flutey of Wasps played for the New Zealand under-19s and under-21s, but after never representing the full team has switched his allegiance to England, having qualified for the country on residency grounds.

"I am just really excited and proud to be representing England," he said yesterday. "I was born and raised in New Zealand and a part of my heart will always be there, but I've been living here for three years and me and my family are really enjoying it."

Flutey is playing at inside centre, one position out from Danny Cipriani, the man around whom the new England side is to be built. "Danny's a fantastic player, a dedicated professional, and that showed when he came back four weeks early from his injury," Flutey said of his clubmate. "He's got all the skills of a Carlos Spencer and of Dan Carter (former and current All Blacks stand-offs], and he's only just turned 21.

"I'm really looking forward to seeing his game develop. I've played at ten most of my career and understand the decision-making they go through. If I can help out, fantastic."

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  • Last Updated: 05 November 2008 11:14 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

leemagee,

Perth 06/11/2008 04:47:27
The laws on playing for countries needs to be changed because this is ridiculour. Rokocoko moved to NZ as a child and so probably feels an allegiance to them. Flutey is only playing for England as he isn't good enough for the All Blacks. Lesley Vainikolo is another; born in Samoa, plays league for NZ and union for England...probably only just learned the anthem. Now I am not saying Scotland are the same, but at least our imports have Scottish blood, even if it has been diluted over a couple of generations. The bottom line is that you should be allowed to play for the country you were born in, the country your parents were born in, or a country you have grown up in for a minimum of 10 years. Living in a country for 3 years shouldn't qualify you to play for them. It's all about blood!!
2

leemagee,

Perth 06/11/2008 04:47:59
ridiculous...line 2...doh!!
3

Mutt,

Close to the fence but not on it... 06/11/2008 08:27:35
@"Living in a country for 3 years shouldn't qualify you to play for them."

Say goodbye to Nathan Hines then - he only qualified thru residency and he doesn't even live in the country anymore!!!!


@"It's all about blood!!"

Or in the case of Aussies- it's all about IINNSSTTIINNCCTT!!

Sorry.

I'll get me coat :<
4

Dr Lloyd Berkshire-Hunt,

06/11/2008 08:56:58
Mutt Natahan Hines has a Scottis grandparent I'm pretty sure. You're thinking Matt Mustchin.
5

derino,

06/11/2008 09:00:36
Nah - Hines has a Scottish grandfather, that's how he qualifies.
6

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 09:08:04
"Rokocoko moved to NZ as a child and so probably feels an allegiance to them"

How on earth do you know how he feels? Such arrogance! The Rocket will have virtually no memory of living in Fiji as he came to NZ as a 5 year old!. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that people in similar situations to Joe just might see himself as a New Zealand Fijians. As for Vainikolo he is not of Samoan birth but of Tongan birth too New Zealand born parents. He also grew up in Auckland, NZ. Unless you undertsand the dynamics of the South Pacific I'd suggest that you keep quiet!
7

GAR,

Dublin 06/11/2008 09:30:34
Having spent a bit of time in NZ and with family in the schooling system, i heard that all the top rugby schools in nz have scouting missions to the islands (fiji, samoa, tonga etc) and then bring them back in to the system - quite good thinking really. By the time they are 6.3 and built like the house next door they are pretty much Kiwi's!!!!!

Maybe we should set something up along those lines.....
8

Mutt,

Close to the fence but not on it... 06/11/2008 09:40:54
@Dr Lloyd, @derino

Both Hines and Mustchin qualify on residency - go check.
9

shinebox69,

06/11/2008 10:14:03
Hines has a maternal grandmother from Govan
10

Thane of Kirkcaldy,

Dancing in the Streets of Raith 06/11/2008 10:59:04
Hear Hear #10
A voice of sanity.
Come on the boys in blue ( or blueish !!! )
Just maybe tomorrow !
11

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 11:21:54
"nz have scouting missions to the islands (fiji, samoa, tonga etc) and then bring them back in to the system"

Yes they go into Samoan and Tongan nuseries and identify potential rugby propsects and then arrange for their families to move to NZ. This is of course how Jerry Collins (who was 4 when he came to NZ), Mils (who came to NZ when he was 2) and Rodney who came to NZ when he was 6) were identified. LOL

The British rugby media ignore the decades of immigration which have made Polynesians one of the four main ethnic groups in NZs multi-cultural society and Auckland the biggest Polynesian city in the world.

It's odd that the Northern Hemisphere rugby followers find it so hard to get their heads around the phenomenon of immigrant communities producing more than their fair share of outstanding athletes given that it has also happened in Britain over roughly the same period.

12

GAR,

Dublin 06/11/2008 11:27:32
# 12,

Skipper, not sure what you read in to my post? i was not criticising 'your' process, infact I think you will find i thought that it is a particularly good idea and perhaps should also be utilised by us!!

However, its a little far for us to travel.
13

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 11:43:59
"was not criticising 'your' process, infact I think you will find i thought that it is a particularly good idea and perhaps should also be utilised by us!!"

Your post is largely based on mis-information. I was merely tryign to show this. There are I believe 3 All Blacks that came to NZ on secondary school scholarships. They are

Casey Laulala scholarship to Wesley
Sivi scholarship to Wesley
Sisone Anasi scholarship to St Pauls, Hamilton

Hardly a succesful policy based on this success rate. Can I reiterate that the overwhelming number of guys of Island lineage who have played for the All Balcks were eitehr born in NZ or came there as kids of immigrant families.
14

GAR,

Dublin 06/11/2008 11:58:15
Your the man with the facts and figures.

I am sure the lack of success that this process has delivered with be discussed in the beehive in the coming weeks, should you guys lose a game in the slam tour.!!!

Lets face it, not a huge amount more to talk about.
15

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 12:08:19
But you can see my frustration?

The article above is typical in that it states correctly that "The Fiji-born winger" but then makes no mention of the fact that he grew up in Auckland. British journos almost always leave the door open on such matters which merely enables those in the North to form wolly views as to how such players came to be in the ABs side. How often have you heard reference to the Tongan, Jonah Lomu, although Jonah was born and bred in Auckland or the Samoan, Michael Jones, who was also born and bred in Auckland and in fact his dad was a NZ Pakaha of Scottish descent?
16

Cacciatore,

Stockholm 06/11/2008 12:18:54
Don´t know where 9.Shinebox69 gets his info about a maternal grandmother from Govan re Hines. Not easy to get this confirmed on the web. I hope it´s true however, as otherwise he would not be eligible for Scotland. The three year residence rule only applies for three continuous years up to the date of the match in question, not any three year period since birth. Hines would not thus qualify on residence grounds, having lived in France for the last three years.
17

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 12:21:57
Michael Jones, who was also born and bred in Auckland and in fact his dad was a NZ Pakaha of Scottish descent?"

Sorry that is of course Welsh descent. Getting carried away!
18

GAR,

Dublin 06/11/2008 12:57:59
"The 28-year-old New Zealander was named in manager Martin Johnson's team for the match against the Pacific Islanders at Twickenham this weekend".

Why are you taking offence, they have done it with scotland and this from the bbc site. Its a fact of life, not all international players perhaps have the appropriate background they should!
19

Old Cartha Boy,

Dumbreck 06/11/2008 13:07:49
I agree the rules should be changed. Ideally before Saturday to avoid Dan Parks coming off the bench!
20

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 13:43:27
Flutey rise to playing for England is not exactly clouded in mystery
21

Saltireblue,

Near Murrayfield! 06/11/2008 13:51:37
The intent of leemagee's post is right on the money. This 'residency' business is way out of hand and the 'blood' ruling is way too flexible.

What he says makes a lot of sense.

"You should be allowed to play for the country you were born in, the country your parents were born in, or a country you have grown up in for a minimum of 10 years." Actually, I would perhaps extend the period to fifteen years before you were eligible through residency.
22

Tony Penman,

06/11/2008 14:47:39
15 years! So you could arrive as a 5 year old, have no memory of the country in which you were born yet be prohibited from playing for the country which you grew up in, spoke the language of, was educated in and learnt all your sporting skills until you are 20.

This is frankly rediculous and totally unworkable. To deny the children of immigrant families full status as nationals would be an outrage. One would assume that this line of thinking would include voting in elections etc because simply you have not proved that you really are committed to your country.
23

derino,

06/11/2008 15:49:43
@17 - the SRU's player profile for Hines says his grandfather was from Govan.

As far as the residency rule goes, I think it would be reasonable to make the cut-off age at about 14 or 15. Someone in that situation would still do enough growing up in their new country and receive enough of their rugby education there to feel attached to it.
24

Bomber,

Edinburgh 06/11/2008 15:56:26
Tony Penman.

Gawd you Kiwis really are too precious about this poaching (non) issue...and the haka...and the correct response to the haka etc etc.

Lighten up...its only a game of rugby.

25

Francis,

06/11/2008 16:11:45
#17 "Don´t know where 9.Shinebox69 gets his info about a maternal grandmother from Govan re Hines. Not easy to get this confirmed on the web."

Cacciatore, the information is on the Official RBS 6 Nations site.
26

Cacciatore,

Stockholm 06/11/2008 22:15:04
OK by me, 26. One official site says Hines has a grandmother, another a grandfather and Bill Lothian plays it safe with a grandparent. Maybe all of the above. Not much clarity when you google "Nathan Hines eligibility" however.
My main point was about the three-year rule which is often misinterpreted. Another slight problem of course is that Scotland, Wales and rugby "Ireland" are not sovereign nations at all, so the concept of citizenship is meaningless.
27

shinebox69,

07/11/2008 10:00:18
i don'y have a problem with the residency laws, and blood lineage links as they stand, in the professional era. I do think, however, that if you have played internationally at any grade above under 18, i.e. senior rugby, you should show allegance and be tied to that nation.

too many "mercenaries" out there now, denying home grown talent the opportunity to improve.

prime example would be the Ross v Parks debate a few years back. I would bet my bottom dollar that when push came to shove, if a game was being lost by a margin and parks was faced with a tackle against say nonu, he'd be thinnking about next weeks potential win bonus, where i would hope that the born and bred scot, who's childhood ambition was to wear the thistle would be putting that aside and playing for the pride of his nation?

maybe i'm too optimistic in this professional era to expect there to be more than money at stake for these guys.

guys like lineen, the leslies and Hines have more than proven (some more than others) their commitment to the Scottish cause. I don't doubt their efforts. what i am asking is: if you asked each of them as an 18 year old player, who would the international side they dreamed of representing, how many of them would have said Scotland.? How many would support scotland (if they had not played for them) against the country of their birth in an international?

 

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