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Ulster 13-9 Edinburgh: Edinburgh's poor start continues with fourth loss in five games

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Published Date: 04 October 2008
Relief for Williams, agony for Robinson as Ulster edge it
EDINBURGH lost the basement battle of the Magners League on a freezing cold night in Belfast last night. It provided a much-needed first win of the campaign for the home side after four straight defeats had heaped enormous pressure on former Scotland
coach Matt Williams.

The narrow win takes the Ulstermen away from the foot of the table, but a mere three points ahead of now-bottom side Connacht who play Leinster tomorrow and they now sit one point behind Andy Robinson's side, who have now just won once in five outings.

A first-half try from David Pollock along with a conversion and two second-half penalties from Clinton Schifcofske were enough to give the Ravenhill side an all too rare winning feeling.

Afterwards Williams was understandably relieved: "Both teams were really tense, we should have put the game away a lot earlier. In the 80th minute Edinburgh were still in it and could have won with a try. We still played with a lot of fear and tension

"If Edinburgh had scored in the last minute, we would have been devastated and been pulling our hair out. But I couldn't have faulted their effort."

Robinson was left to reflect on another defeat and said: "We are just one or two per cent down in our performance. We dominated the first 20 minutes but couldn't score. We had a couple of clear run-ins and we still couldn't score, we tripped over our own feet and fell over. That affected our confidence to move forward and this allows teams to stay in the game.

"I am disappointed with the try that they scored given the fact that the ball was in touch and the touch judge didn't put his flag up. We need neutral touch judges and that was frustrating."

Edinburgh have now only recorded one victory from their last ten games in Ireland, and must be looking to next weekend's Heineken Cup opener at home to Leinster with real trepidation.

"If we perform like that next week against Leinster, we are going to have egg on our faces," conceded Robinson.

The visitors did start the game promisingly, dominating both territory and possession and showing a real keenness to move the ball wide and through the hands with pace. Captain Mike Blair grubbered and box-kicked expertly to keep Ulster pinned in their own half for the first 15 minutes.

Almost inevitably, however, it was Ulster who broke away to open the scoring going into the second quarter after their Australian wing Schifcofske had missed an easy penalty chance on a first sortie into Edinburgh's half.

On 25 minutes the Edinburgh defence failed to deal with an innocuous chip down the left-hand touchline by Ulster full-back Bryn Cunningham. Ireland and Ulster wing Andrew Trimble was first to dive on the ball and he passed to Darren Cave. The centre looked inside and found flanker Pollock charging up on his shoulder and he had enough gas to make it over the line. Schifcofske added the straightforward conversion.

Edinburgh opened the second half brightly and only last-ditch Ulster defence denied Hugo Southwell a try after he had hacked ahead and seemingly had the line at his mercy but failed to gather the awkwardly bouncing ball. When it was moved dangerously right Ulster were off their blocks far too fast to smother the Edinburgh backs. Ulster conceded the penalty and David Blair duly slotted.

Two minutes later, Blair was again on target this time from long range, punishing Ulster for not rolling away after the tackle.

Replacement Phil Godman then slotted the penalty to narrow the gap to four points with less than ten minutes remaining. However, the Scots were unable to find the try they needed for victory and had to settle for the losing bonus point.

But Williams had words of encouragement for the vanquished. "Andy Robinson is a world-class coach and they have improved enormously," said the Australian. "If they had Chris (Paterson], they would have had a lot more confidence. They are playing really good, hard rugby and are a very hard side to breakdown. I know them well from my time in Scotland and I have huge respect for them."

Scorers: Ulster: Tries: Pollock; Con: Schifcofske; Pens: Schifcofske 2. Edinburgh: Pens: D Blair 2, Godman.

Ulster: B Cunningham; C Schifcofske, D Cave, P Steinmetz, A Trimble; N O'Connor, C Willis; T Court, R Best, BJ Botha, E O'Donoghue, R Caldwell, S Ferris, D Pollock, R Diack. Subs used: I Boss, Fitzpatrick, Del Fava, McCullough.

Edinburgh: J Thompson; J Houston, H Southwell, N De Luca, M Robertson; D Blair, M Blair; A Jacobsen, A Kelly, G Kerr, J Hamilton, B Gissing, M Mustchin, A Hogg, S Newlands. Subs used: Ford, Cross, C Hamilton, Godman, Macrae, Laidlaw.

Attendance: 8,418

Referee: C Damasco (Italy).





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  • Last Updated: 04 October 2008 12:27 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Mobat,

04/10/2008 09:15:12
had friends at game, commented worst game ever
2

johnnyscotsman,

Newcastle via Linlithgow 04/10/2008 11:06:08
Edinburgh's problem is not converting pressure / possesion into points, I still doubt whether Godman is good enough & David Blair seems about the same level (although I have not seen him live that often)

Given this & the new ELVs wouldn't a half back partnership of Paterson / Blair be well worth considering?

Injuries have restricted us this season too.

However our poor start to the season can be forgotten by beating Leinster next w/e.

Further to this, considering the Eddie Jones article in todays Independant (re Larkham & Cipriani) shouldn't Edinburgh be playing Rory Hutton (highly rated by Morrison & Renwick) @ 15?

Finally there was a thread yesterday dismissing Dewey as a straight running bruiser - rubbish anyone who saw his 1st season in Edinburgh (2 seasons ago) would have witnessed a player who runs great lines & scores tries, wouldn't a fully fit / on form Dewey be a great sight in Edinburgh colours again?
3

thistle do,

here n'there 04/10/2008 12:33:30
Hope the SRU heid yins are watching. Edinburgh with no home support and poor results despite all the increased funding from the ex Reivers. Well done Gordon!
Up the Borders.
4

JBA,

04/10/2008 13:42:42
What has good old McKie achieved since closing the Borders... Sweet F.A. Despite E and G receiving additional funding they are still in their usual bottom half of the M.L. One third fewer pro players playing in Scotland, fewer academies and apprentices, difficulties in getting players back for the international squad, and most likely further confirmation come the autumn tests that Scotland are falling further behind at international level. Yes very well done Gordon
5

johnnyscotsman,

Newcastle via Linlithgow 04/10/2008 13:58:26
#3 & 4 - valid points but is was the Borders people not supporting the Reviers that was one of the main reasons for their demise.

Also were the demographics looked at properly before the re-introduction of a pro-team in a history rich but economically & population poor part of the country?

I propose Meadowbank be re-furbished making it a world class 15,000 (7,500 seated) stadium & Edinburgh's new home.

Glasgow to play @ Scotstoun Stadium.

£s to be given to recruit 5 or 6 top NZ / Aussie / SA players.

And a 3rd pro-team based in Perth / Aberdeen to be seriously considered.
6

JBA,

04/10/2008 14:29:35
Some good ideas johnnyscotsman, however 3RD Pro side should be a reinststated Borders. Small crowds used as an excuse by McKie who did not want 3rd pro side. Crowds at Netherdale were similar to Glasgow and only slightly less than Edinburgh, and that with an underfunded squad and under continual threat of closure. With a competent management, assured future and reasonably funded squad, crowds of 4/5000 would be realistic. Bear in mind that in the season before their closure the Reivers had crowds of 4000 on a number of occasions whilst under threat of closure. It is absolutely imperative that a 3rd pro side is reinstated together with academies for each pro side for the sake of Scotlands international future
7

johnnyscotsman,

Newcastle via Linlithgow 04/10/2008 14:56:24
Not sure if Edinburgh or Glasgow have had consistantly as few people attending their matches as The Reviers.

With a population of 112,000 - 15% under 15, 8% - 75+, 50% women who on the whole don't attend games, that leaves approx. 37,000, which in turn means you need 1 in 7 of the population to regularly attend games.

With all the will in the world when you consider the transport network, the distances invovled & the stadium this is unlikely.

A well funded 3rd team in Perth (McDiarmid Park) &/or Aberdeen (Pittodrie) seems to me a better option -

Is a team of (top of my head) Southwell, S.Lamont, Dewey, Ferguson, Walker, Ross, Lawson, Taylor, Martyn, Vernon, McLeod, White, C.Smith, Crombie, Kerr so unrealistic?????
8

JBA,

04/10/2008 18:02:51
ee wud git yer heid in eer hands johnnyscotsman if the border lasses got a haud o ee. You obviously have not been to any rugby in the borders where woman make up a very large proportion of crowds, it is a family game in the Borders and by far the major sport.Unlike E. G. North or Midlands there is virtually no football. Of course these other districts have larger populations but 90% are football orientated, so your calculations just do not stand up to scrutiny. Your team is realistic and would be better playing in Scotland or in the case of some of your selection getting a game at all would be nice as many do not even get onto the pro teams bench, nor do they get much game times with the clubs they are attached to. Of course for any 3rd pro side to be raised outside finance would be required and with a control freak like McKie leading Scottish Rugby there is no chance.
9

johnnyscotsman,

Newcastle via Linlithgow 04/10/2008 19:38:14
I tried to go to a couple of Borders games a year (but its a long long dak, invariably wet, road from Linlithgow or Gateshead) & some lovely Borders ladies were their but t majority of attendees were male.

Borders people had the chance & alas did not attend the games in sufficient numbers to "force" the SRU to keep them alive.

Edinburgh are hamstrung playing in the cavernous Murrayfield, whilst Glasgow are struggling as their city is football dominated.

I still think my calculations are not 1,000,000 miles away & I return to my point that Borders people had the chance & didn't grasp it.

My team looks no bad but indeed needs outside financial support & looks of £££s
10

Aubrey W,

Fyfe 05/10/2008 09:59:02
Yes, the match could have gone either way but Ulster are at the poorest they have been for several years. But such prformances by one of Scotland's only two regional sides is most disconcerting. Successful international sides have strong regional or club sides.

Incidentally, what is Frank's 'performance target' this year? Not that he made it last year!
11

J.A.,

Gala 06/10/2008 09:12:40
Jonnyscotsman, you are talking the biggest load of rubbish. Are you advising Gordon McKie.
You can stick all your calculations where the sun don’t shine because they are nothing but the type of bull which Mckie tried to use a couple of years ago.
Why can Llanethli, with a base population of around 60,000, manage to get support?
As for your comment “Borders people had the chance & alas did not attend the games”. Did Edinburgh and Glasgow support their team in vast numbers?
12

IaininSelkirk,

06/10/2008 09:51:19
johnnyscotsman - you still seem to be struggling to see past the McKie spin that there isn't the support in the Borders. You only need to look at the crowd attendances at club level week in week out to see where the interest still lies. It's not that Borderers don't want to support a Borders team, it's more that they are not particularly interested in supporting an SRU which over many years has done little other than undermine rugby in the area. They have only recently started to realise that the sevens circuit & the Border League may actually be of some benefit, not only to the clubs but also to rugby in general.

 

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