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Kremlin using Kosovo independence as a chilly warning to West



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Published Date: 15 February 2008
RUSSIA may not come to outright blows with the West over Kosovo, but with the province set to declare its independence from Serbia on Sunday, an independence the Kremlin strongly opposes, there is sure to be a deepening of the Cold War-style chill settling over Europe.
The province, with its largely ethnic Albanian population, has been a UN protectorate since 1999, following Yugoslavia's military crackdown, which resulted in the NATO bombing of Serbia.

Moscow says it has developed a secret plan for responding to
Kosovo's independence, including using western recognition of the province's independence as setting a dangerous precedent and – in a direct attack on the UK government – legitimising Scottish independence claims.

Recognition of Kosovo, it is claimed by the Kremlin, will open a Pandora's box of those peoples seeking independence, including Turkish Cypriots and the Basques, in addition to Scotland.

For the SNP Government and those seeking Scottish independence, UK recognition of Kosovo's independence, a province with two million people, is set to be used to legitimise further their desire for independence.

This detaching of Kosovo from Serbia will likely aggravate disputes over a host of sensitive security issues, ranging from missile defence to Nato membership for the former Soviet republics of Georgia and Ukraine.

Kosovo is sacred to Serbs, who call it the cradle of their statehood and religion.

But it stands as a symbol of Russia's weakness in the post-Soviet era. Despite its fury over the 1999 Nato bombing of Serbia, Moscow recognised a peace deal that put the mostly ethnic Albanian province under the control of the UN and the western alliance.

President Vladimir Putin has built his popularity on restoring Russian pride, pushing to recapture its global clout and showing increasing assertiveness toward the West. That means acquiescence is off the table and speculation that Russia would strike a compromise with the West was shattered last August when Moscow torpedoed a plan for supervised independence by threatening a UN Security Council veto.

More seriously, Moscow has implied that it could hit back by recognising the independence claims of Abkhazia and South Ossetia – two Russian-supported provinces in Georgia, whose pro-western government plays a key role in the struggle for influence, pitting Russia against the US and European Union.

The move might mean a war with Georgia, a meltdown of relations with the West and a boost for separatists inside Russia.

The constitutional fate of Kosovo will have a clear impact, not just on the Balkans but on ongoing relations between the Kremlin and the West.

And the threat of independence for Scotland is being drawn into this, with the Kremlin using Scotland as a key tool in its armoury against Kosovo's independence, while independence for the province is set to be used by those in Scotland seeking to further its independence.



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  • Last Updated: 14 February 2008 9:16 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Russia
 
1

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA...bye Bush -Cheney..u. evil leaders. 15/02/2008 05:07:49

President Vladimir Putin has built his popularity on restoring Russian pride, pushing to recapture its global clout and showing increasing assertiveness toward the West.

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This is exactly what our redneck BUSH/CHENEY have done for the past 7 years.

So why can't Putin and the Russians do the same. They have the NUKE capability to back up their threats . just like our American rednecks have.

GC
2

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 15/02/2008 10:08:26
Its starting to get nearer everyday. Independance for our Nation is just around the corner, especially with Russia on our side. Lets face it the UK is more a fascist state than Westminster has made the four countries of these Islands.

I am sure we could do some good business with the Russians, as an Independant Country. They have the economy and fair elections in democratic system, unlike the imperialist dictators in Westminster that break the laws and pilfer our tax monies to feather their own nests. That goes double for Scottish Labour MP's.
3

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 15/02/2008 10:17:18
Interesting points about Scottish Laws and the Power of the Scottish Judicial System as far as Westminster Laws are concerned.

Are the Scots not simply part of a British people?

For the purposes of deciding their constitutional future, emphatically not! One does not require to be a lawyer to realise that the identity of the Scottish constitutional, legal and political unit was not extinguished in 1707, as the most superficial knowledge of the Acts of Union makes clear. The entrenched protection for the Scottish courts and legal system contained in the union agreement in itself suffices to demonstrate this. And the Court of Session has established that Scottish constitutional law - written and unwritten - is by no means identical to its English counterpart.

For example, under the terms of the union agreement, the Scottish judges retain the power to declare legislation by the Westminster Parliament to be null and void if it is not in the evident interest of the people of Scotland. Furthermore, according to Lord Stair’s Institutions of the Law of Scotland - one of the fundamental sources of Scots law - the Scottish courts have the power to “derogate” an act of Parliament if it is found to be in conflict with the fundamental principles of Scots law. The fact that these powers have not been used to date - although the threat to do so has been made on several occasions - does not alter the situation. The powers are there and can be invoked by the Scottish courts at any time.

International law, as defined by the United Nations, the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe and others, clearly recognises the right of national entities such as the Scots to determine their internal and external political status “in full freedom” and “without external interference”. The UN General Assembly has declared the self-determination of peoples to be a fundamental and inalienable collective human right. Furthermore, this internationally guaranteed right is expressly
4

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 15/02/2008 10:19:40
this internationally guaranteed right is expressly possessed by “peoples”, and not by their governments and legislatures. The United Nations has defined such a “people” as a social entity possessing its own characteristics, a lengthy shared history, and an association with a territory. The Scots meet this definition many times over, which under international law entitles them to exercise and enjoy the right of self-determination without interference from London or anywhere else.

Irrespective of the above, it is clear that the constitutional sovereignty of the people, represented by a qualified and registered electorate, implies the sovereignty of any part of that people and electorate in matters which concern that part alone. This must be particularly the case when, as in this instance, the "part" (Scotland) is in fact an integral whole, a distinct legal and constitutional entity in its own right with its status entrenched in the union agreement. It is clear that no referendum on devolution for Scotland alone could be conducted on an all-United Kingdom basis, unless one can explain how matters fundamentally affecting the indigenous law of Scotland could be decided by an electorate resident under and subject to a totally different legal jurisdiction in what, for legal purposes, is a foreign country.
5

Neil,

Glasgow 15/02/2008 12:24:38
Quite right #2. The author is merely inventing any mud he can throw around. The fact is that NATO is breaking almost every rule of international law, its most solemn treaty promises, its guarantees under the occupation agreement & the UN Charter. It is transparently doing this to support genocide 7 the racial policies of Adolf Hitler.

If they do this there are absolutley no circumstances under which any governing politician in any of the agreeing NATO countries can ever claim to be in any way trustworthy or indeed not personally committed to Nazism & genocide.

This is unlikely to make us appear more trustworthy in the eyes of the rest of the world.
6

Dáithí,

San Jose 15/02/2008 14:50:10
#3 - A worse way

>"Independance for our Nation is just around the corner, especially with Russia on our side."

If the British Isles adopted the 'Russian' way, then you'd need an entire region in the far, cold north to re-create their gulag system, so in the British Isles, they're recreate in -

Scotland?

And you Scottish Communists think that you'll be better off?
7

Neil,

Glasgow 15/02/2008 15:51:09
Actaully Daithi you are about 60 years out of date.

The Russians are capitalists now with a leader democraticly elected (& by the majority of the population too which neither of our countries can manage).

I suspect that you might disagree if I was to say that we shouldn't try to emulate the USA because you are always infecting Indians with smallpox, which is only twice as out of date as your cliche.
8

Dáithí,

San Jose 15/02/2008 16:38:15
#8 - Neil

>"The Russians are capitalists now with a leader democraticly elected..."

And you determined that because the last guy promised not to 'dictate'?

>"http://news.scotsman.com/world/I-won39t-dictate-to-Russia39s.3781423.jp

What happens if he changes his mind?

9

Dáithí,

San Jose 15/02/2008 16:49:55
#8 Neil (cont...)

>"I suspect that you might disagree if I was to say that we shouldn't try to emulate the USA because you are always infecting Indians with smallpox, which is only twice as out of date as your cliche.

So let me get this straight, you want to emulate a 'democracy' that was merely shooting people or freezing them in Gulags 30 years ago, but not someone that gave people smallpox 120 years ago?

Neil, I'm glad to see the Russian people move towards a better way of life by overthrowing the massively miserable system of Communism. I wish them good luck, long lives and good health - and a future within a good partnership with Europe.

I'm not sure that their democracy has been 'tested' enough to see if it will survive many tests.

Benevolent despots and monarchs are greater dangers to democracy than bad ones are. Will Putin's popularity drive the people to start 'changing the rules' and take the 'longer terms' or 'president for life' route?

Let's give them a few more years before we decide. I think that they'll like democracy and survive the tests, but I'd give them the chance to face what I'll call 'the Putin Challenge' first.
10

Bob Fae Fife,

15/02/2008 17:05:39
>"Independance for our Nation is just around the corner, especially with Russia on our side."

Maybe we could send our neds to Siberia and sell the Russians some of the Billions of tonnes of coal we still have un mined??

Bob for president!!
11

Neil,

Glasgow 15/02/2008 18:40:33
Look Daithi if a country gets its government because the large majority of people freely vote for it that is democracy.

If the NATO countries fund the "democratic opposition", demand re-runs when they lose, fund ex-Nazi terrorists to carry out genocide & denounce any government that does what the people rather than western leaders want that is not democracy, even if they say it is.

I live in a country whose government is enforcing the corrupt EU constitution which the people have already rejected in a referendum & which they promised would not be passed without a referendum. And in which the media is willing to tell us any eco-fascist lie or any racist invention to keep us in line so I don't think Brits are in a position to criticise Russia's democratic free enterprise system. If I wished I could say similar things about about America's semi-monarchy.
12

Dáithí,

San Jose 15/02/2008 19:13:36
#12 - Neil

>"I live in a country whose government is enforcing the corrupt EU constitution which the people have already rejected in a referendum & which they promised would not be passed without a referendum"

Good for you. Have I ever posted any comment where I agree with your involvement with the EU?

I've stated that the Euro's strength depends upon the perception of EU togetherness, don't construe that as a 'vote of confidence' from me.

>"If I wished I could say similar things about about America's semi-monarchy."

Really?

- I'm still not clear on how you guys voted in Gordon Brown.

- How about the Queen? How's she do in the last election?

- You can't elect a Catholic as King or Queen, it's against the law there, isn't it?

Now I know that there is a story behind every one of these statements, but isn't this the same thing as the trendy "America's semi-monarchy" type statements?
13

Friseal,

Scotland 15/02/2008 23:03:03

Russia was the first country to acknowledge Irish independence, good to see a leader and a powerful one at that backing Scottish independence, even it is because of Kosovo.
14

Heerlijk,

Netherlands 16/02/2008 00:11:55
A couple words about Russia because the author as some of you gys are not quite familiar with this country.
"Abkhazia and South Ossetia – two Russian-supported provinces in Georgia, whose pro-western government plays a key role in the struggle for influence, pitting Russia against the US and European Union". These two provinces declared their independence absolutely indendently on Russia (it was in early 90's and Russia had a lot to do inside and did not care about anything around). Moreover they themselves did the work NATO did for Kosovo.

"The move might mean a war with Georgia". A war between Georgia and Russia??? Nonsense bott strategically and historically. Without Russia it would be no Georgia but a Turkish or Persian province. Believe me or not but Russian came in Siberia about the same time pilgrims came to Cape Code - none of the countless siberian tribes have disappeared they are still their. There is assimilation of course but they are still there. So who is more blood lusting, Dáithí? May that is why Russia stil the biggest country in the world and the Georgian provinces wnat to make her even bigger. In 1572, in the night of St. Bartholomew it was more people killed only in Paris than during the whole Ivan the Terrible reign in Russia (the period is the same bytheway) and even for that he was proclaimed the terrible by Russians. By the way Russia was one of the first countries to acknowledge US independence and Santa-Barbara with Malibu are former Russian territories (Russian hunters killed almost all seals in California and it was nothing else to do there that time - they left).
"a boost for separatists inside Russia". Chechnya is over. Bush dreams to do the same in Iraq. The mentioned Georgian provinces will be part of Russia in several years. They really prefer Russia to Georgia despite Georgia's pro-westren government. Russians are not nationalists at all (one of the reasons that is why they became international communists) but Georgians are, s
15

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/02/2008 01:52:17
#15 - Heerlijk

>"So who is more blood lusting, Dáithí?"

When did I call Russia 'bloodlusting? I've reattached my statement from comment #10:

"Neil, I'm glad to see the Russian people move towards a better way of life by overthrowing the massively miserable system of Communism. I wish them good luck, long lives and good health - and a future within a good partnership with Europe."

Did I call them 'bloodlusting' somewhere? Did I even wish them 'ill will' somewhere?

I am NOT sure that they wouldn't give up their current democracy for a 'benevolent ruler', because I don't believe that people (Putin) give up power that they worked all of their lives to gain.

As I said earlier, if Russian democracy passes the 'Putin test', they will make a great leap forward.
16

Heerlijk,

Amsterdam 16/02/2008 10:52:40
What is the "Putin test" for Russian democracy? Do you know that Putin was really none in Russian political establishment til 1998? And you know why he became a president? He was put in the president chair because he did not leave alone in need his former boss and close friend in St.Petersburg city hall. At that time when in Russia everything was for sale and his boss was really a bitten figure in the Russian third level from the top political chess this kind of behaviour was very unusual and attracted attention to him in 1998. So he was put in the president chair to cover Eltsin's ass when the latter finished his presidency because he proved that he can be relied on - as proved - may be he was the only one. Simple like this. Moreover as an honest guy and feeling unprepared for presidency. Putin denied for several times the offer but when he took it he did it in a strong way indeed. His biography was typical for low-middle rank KGB agent with no bright future at all. So this guy can be called anyhow but not the one who "worked all of his live to gain" the power. Not a public figure, not a party activist, just a guy with a little dignity. Surprisingly it was enough.
17

Neil,

Glasgow 16/02/2008 13:53:46
Daithi 13 said
"Now I know that there is a story behind every one of these statements, but isn't this the same thing as the trendy "America's semi-monarchy" type statements?"

Yes - that is the point. I was actively not holding our government up as pure 7 yours as corrupt.

However you should not use such a silly "Putin test" before Russian democracy gets YOUR seal of approval. It is a democracy where the people very sensibly elected somebody who promised & delivered doubled GNP in 2 terms. I suspect many people here & in the US would vote for that if we had the option & a free media that let it be discussed.

PS When would you expect Chicago's democracy to be able to pass the Mayor Daley test?

 

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