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Published Date: 04 November 2009
IT IS a 1,200-mile journey with up to 120 stops taking nearly two days of travel – and comes with Britain's most expensive rail fare.
A flexible first-class "walk-up" return between Newquay in Cornwall and Kyle of Lochalsh in the Highlands has become the first to top £1,000, researchers have found.

However, the £1,002 ticket involves a marathon trek in at least four trains, hal
f of which do not even have first-class seats.

The price has also increased by nearly 10 per cent from £912.50 a year ago – several times the rate of inflation.

Michael Palin, the celebrity explorer and fan of the Kyle line, described the fare as "staggering", while passenger watchdogs called for an urgent review of long-distance tickets.

The price was unearthed as part of a survey by fares expert Barry Doe. He said: "For the first 183 miles to Bristol you might get a trolley service offering a cup of tea. From Bristol you might get some paltry snacks. You ought to be getting linen tablecloths and wall-to-wall service."

The £1,001 ticket would enable a dedicated rail passenger to travel between Newquay and Kyle over a variety of routes – the shortest of which is 611 miles and would involve 18 hours, 45 minutes aboard a total of four trains. The journey would start before 7am and end about 11:30am the next day.

Travellers would use First Great Western on the Newquay-Par "Atlantic Coast" line, most of whose trains are standard-class only, before changing to a CrossCountry service to Edinburgh.

They would then join a ScotRail train to Inverness, and continue on another ScotRail service to Kyle – which doesn't have first-class seats – the following morning.

That option would involve the trains calling at a minimum of 51 stations, with another nine request stops along the way.

Palin, who featured the Inverness-Kyle line on the Great Railway Journeys of the World TV series, said: "The fare is staggering. Fares do seem to be rising and complicated."

Ashwin Kumar, director of official watchdog Passenger Focus, said: "This is one of the many examples of a confusing fares system which leaves passengers baffled.

"This emphasises further the need to simplify the long-distance fares structure as a matter of urgency."

Cat Hobbs, public transport campaigner for the Campaign for Better Transport, said: "The Newquay £1,000 fare shows just how pricey and complicated the fare structure is.

"We think fares in this country are far too expensive.

"They are the most expensive in Europe. We think the government should step in and review how they regulate fares."

Liberal Democrat MSP John Farquhar Munro, who represents Kyle of Lochalsh, said: "This is absolutely ridiculous. You could go round the world for that price."

A spokesman for CrossCountry said: "We've never sold one of these fares, but there has to be a fare for every route regardless of whether anyone's bought one or not. The price of a first-class saver return is £561. That's what people are likely to pay if they want to do that route."





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  • Last Updated: 03 November 2009 9:36 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The railways
 
1

the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 04/11/2009 00:49:20
£1000 railfare, you can fly to Australia and back for that.

And still have change left over.
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 04/11/2009 02:09:42

The rail companies must be hoping that their next customers are coming from another planet, to pay £1000 for a rail ticket of absurdity.

3

Age of Reason,

Aberdeen 04/11/2009 05:18:16
Saddest of all is the cheap political comment reported elsewhere, by journalists more rigorous, from the Tory Shadow Transport, blaming labour for this fare by 'micromanagement'... I ask you :-
1. whose macro-management created Railtrack and bankrupted a 'golden goose' stockmarlet darling company, and wityh it trashed the country's rail infrastructure assets and reversed the continuously improving rail safety record ??
2. whose strategy of fragmenting the rail travel operation without providing a macro-strategy for coordination and management of through journeys, ecomomies of scale in freight and allocation of value through service in ways other than simple ticket-revenue?
Labour has improved the railways (although a cynic could be forgiven for commenting that anyone can improve if you choose a bad enough startpoint).
4

Jock's Away,

Africa 04/11/2009 06:24:16
Look like the railways putting their "Green foot print' squarely on the back side of it's customers. The morale of the story is Fly or drive and save a packet. rip off britain at it's finest.
At least two return tickets across the Atlantic. Newquay or Canadian Rockies/Florida Beaches sir?
5

Eckyboo,

04/11/2009 06:40:10
But we are all supposed to give up our cars and use "Cheaper/Greener" alternatives. Most people spend less than £1000 per annum on their car let alone one journey. Any comments from the Green Party or the Government about this ?? No, as usual they have all gone into hiding. Come on greenies, lets hear you take on why this absurd charge for a rail ticket is better than using a car !!!
6

mr broon,

Edinburgh 04/11/2009 08:06:47
Britain is one of the very few countries in the world that has private train operating companies(TOCs).

For a second time, the TOC operating on the East Coast Main Line has returned the government franchise because it cannot make the operation pay.
7

New Danielrober,

04/11/2009 08:23:23
I was quoted £350 London to Inverness, this summer and that was the cheap fare.

The price was shocking but what really surprised me was the fact that I could ‘only’ get to Inverness by staying overnight in Edinburgh or Wigan. After half an hour conversation, I was informed that there was no direct train and that there had never been a direct train from London to Inverness. A slight fib, used to artificially increase prices – I drove.
8

Front Street,

Grange Court 04/11/2009 09:06:01
£1000 buys two economy return air tickets from Edinburgh Airport to Pocatello, Idaho, USA via New York and Salt Lake City. A distance in excess of 10,700 miles.
9

Duncan in Edinburgh,

04/11/2009 09:07:00
What I've never understood, and have been caught out by myself, is why train companies are allowed to charge for First Class travel on routes with no First Class facilities. They have all the necessary information on their systems as to where First Class is and isn't available - so why not use that information to give customers the appropriate fares for the different parts of their journeys?

#7 Were you travelling immediately? I've been able to get much better fares on that route by booking early. The walk-up fares do take the mickey though.
10

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 04/11/2009 09:29:36
If First Class service isn't available then they cannot charge First Class fares - that's tantamount to theft! Additionally, why does it cost £1002 if you buy the ticket on the day and 'only' £561 if you buy in advance? This is just a racket, and the rail companies should be forced to clean up their ticketing arrangements. Me? I'd rather drive.
11

New Danielrober,

04/11/2009 10:16:33
# 9 Duncan in Edinburgh,

I looked for a price two weeks before I needed to travel. It was the lack of direct trains and 'price, with hotel fees’ which stopped me using the train. It was not a tourist trip.

By the way I quite agree on the charging of first class prices when no first class facilities are available. It’s really second and third class, when not travelling East Coast Main Line.
12

Lianachan,

Highlands 04/11/2009 10:31:03
My brother recently got the train from Edinburgh to Inverness. He was very surprised by the range of prices that he was quoted, and was especially surprised to have travelled "first class" more cheaply than any cattle class tickets he could find.
13

danbob,

04/11/2009 11:55:15
What is this sh*t? You can buy a rail rover valid on any train for seven whole days for around £850. What a load of boll*cks. Why people listen to these brainless fools I will never know.
14

danbob,

04/11/2009 11:55:55
AND IT'S A FIRST CLASS RAIL ROVER TOO.
15

danbob,

04/11/2009 12:02:38
Did you not know I have found the most expensive ticket ever to reach Sydney Australia. It involves four different flights with four different carriers with seven stopovers. All first class at a whopping £3000. Lets all queue up to bash the airline industry forgetting that you could in reality do the journey for £599. Ring any bells?
16

Jo Public,

04/11/2009 12:47:21
£1000?

You could buy a cheap car and drive the journey for that.
17

Jo Public,

04/11/2009 12:48:31
Anyway - it's all Beeching's fault.
18

david wayne osedach,

San Diego 04/11/2009 18:50:08
I imagine they will sell some of these high priced rail tickets to those who will not fly at any cost.
19

JT,

04/11/2009 20:32:40
What is the point in this story? No normal person would want to pay this amount or even want to spend 2 days on four trains?
20

Jose Hartley,

04/11/2009 21:35:42
A silly story, as danbob points out.

New Danielrober, there are some (not many) direct trains from INV-LDN, daytime and sleeper. And you needn't pay £350: a flexible return for travel (e.g) this Friday, returning within a month is £125.

T.S.Potter
21

truthsleuth,

05/11/2009 01:15:24
Yet another rail ticket price scare no doubt its source lyong with the embattled aviation industry who quote a £5 fare the when you turn up you find there is an extra charge to have a seatetc.

For some reason I get the message 'this story cannot display' So I cannot be sure of what the article is about.

However a close friend of mine quoted a fare of over £1000 for Weymouth to Kyle.

A quich 20 minute exercise on one of the rail ticket web sites and I determined I could get a single ticket for less than £100.

This is still far to much and the difficulty of knowing/finding such fares is disgusting.

The trick is split your journey book in advance look for special offers try to avoid 'peaks'.

 

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