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Drunk boy, aged 13, rushed to hospital – he's one of 15 under-age drinkers



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Published Date: 18 January 2008
IT WAS just a normal day in a normal Scottish town. On Friday, 11 January, 2008, in Livingston, West Lothian, 15 teenagers aged between 13 and 15 were picked up by undercover police for underage drinking. One, a 13-year-old boy, was so drunk he had to be rushed to hospital.
Just another day, then, for Sergeant Steven Duncan, community safety officer responsible for a string of operations targeting the problem. Here is how it went.

• 2pm: Start of the operation, timed to coincide with the end of a school half-da
y. Nine plain clothes officers began foot patrols, looking for youngsters drinking. Their main concern was the teenagers' welfare, as Sgt Duncan, one of the officers, explained.

"We were worried that children were putting themselves in danger by drinking too much. There have been tragic cases in the past and we want to minimise the risk of this happening again."

• 3pm: First drunken youth spotted – a 15-year-old boy walking on a path in the Dedridge area with an older boy and swigging from a bottle of Buckfast.

"It was fairly obvious he was under the influence. His eyes were dilating and his speech was slurred. We took him into the police station for his own safety and contacted his parents."

• 4:30pm: A group of girls aged 14 and 15 found hanging around outside a shop. As police officers approached them they began acting shiftily.

"We recovered a bag hidden in bushes. Inside was a crate of beer and 18 bottles of alco-pop. Two of the girls admitted it was theirs," says Sgt Duncan.

The girls were taken in and their parents questioned. They got a stern talking to – a step Sgt Duncan said made it unlikely they would be caught again.

• 5pm: A gang of youths were noticed drinking in a playpark. The police officers spoke to them and one of them began shouting and swearing. The boy, aged 15, was arrested.

• 7pm: Two 13-year-old lads spotted in the centre of town, near a supermarket. A couple of officers approached them but they ran off.

"There was no doubt they were drinking," said Sgt Duncan. "One of them was particularly unsteady on his feet. He could barely string a few words together."

They were carrying a bottle of fizzy juice – the giveaway of the under-age drinker. Using alcohol-testing strips, the officers found that the apparently harmless juice had been "diluted" with dangerously strong cider.

"We took them in but it quickly became obvious that one of the lads needed medical attention, so he was taken to hospital."

Sgt Duncan insisted the day was a fairly typical one since he initiated the undercover foot patrols.

"In my experience alcohol is very much a factor in the problems that we encounter, both among young people and adults."



The full article contains 494 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 17 January 2008 9:21 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Alcohol & binge drinking
 
1

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 18/01/2008 03:47:32
Degenerate, useless, fickle, sub human, educationally challenged, no future, low life, scum, now as for their children written about above, they need to be taken in hand, fixed and dressed as appropriate.

2

Cadgers,

18/01/2008 08:32:38
I think the parents of these teeny drunks and vicious murdering louts should lose the right to their child benefit. After all they don't seem to be doing much parenting.
3

albanman,

Edinburgh 18/01/2008 09:49:14
No.1: These kids and parents are not subhuman; that's a Nazi term and we know where that led. Also, how do you know they are educationally challenged? Such arrogance in a comment.

No.2: So they are murderous? Just where does the article say anything about murder - or even violence? Yet another commment made out of presumption and ignorance.

I'm certainly not defending these kids becoming drunk, and I think that police warnings are often just not enough. Much sterner action needs to be taken: shops that sell to underage people should lose their licence on the very first offence. As a teacher for many years, I know that it's usually the same youngsters who drink on a regular basis. Our local police give warnings and take the teens home. Parents mostly give verbal support and fuss at the kids in front of the police, but when it comes to action these same parents seem to feel powerless. Many work so how can their kids be supervised between school and home, which is when the teens in this article appear to have become intoxicated? Of course, they could be kept in at night if the parents are willing to put up with the shouting match that may ensue.

Should these teens be placed in residential care? Well, the cost is horrendous for such a placement: I'm told it's in the region of 50,000 per year. It doubt that the taxpayers would agree to such a move.

Another problem can be the procurator fiscal; the one in our area has said that prosecution of youths who drink is counterproductive, whatever that means. The PF also refuses to prosecute persistance truants or their parents - and most know it, so guess where that leaves us in the education,legal or social work professions?

What I'm trying to say is that there are no easy answers. Certainly the law should be enforced against shopkeepers who sell alcohol to kids. Perhaps the government also should put a halt to cheap deals on alcohol. Maybe having repeated offenders spend a night sleeping things off in jail may
4

albanman,

edinburgh 18/01/2008 09:55:58
(I ramble don't I)....be effective. Whatever happens no lasting change will occur until there are teeth behind warnings and threats. Parents need to be fair but strong in raising their children from an early age. Children want parents to be parents; they both need and want boundaries - consistently maintained.The law also needs to be enforced against those who sell this stuff to the underaged.

One thing is for certain: these teens and their parents are not subhuman, nor scum, nor useless nor murderous.
5

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 18/01/2008 10:14:12
A 13 year had to be "rushed to hospital" because he was drunk.

Big deal! So what?

Let's hope he gets a blinder of a hangover and is ill for days after. That, and only that will teach him the error of his ways.

Back in the mid 1970's kids of 13 were doing this exact same thing so it is nothing new. In the mid 2070's they will still be doing it---even if the nannies have banned drink completely by then.

It is not a big deal. It means nothing. It is no justification for a "clamp down". It is just kids getting up to mischief and taking it too far, that's all.
6

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 18/01/2008 12:37:04
#5, the voice of sanity. Thanks!
7

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 19/01/2008 03:52:38
When I said sub human I meant it ......
8

Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 19/01/2008 03:57:32
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/14/nstones114.xml

read the above Albaman and imagine it was your spawn that had either done the kicking or been kicked then tell me they are no sub human

9

Isabel,

Edinburgh 19/01/2008 22:46:56
The girls were taken in and their parents questioned. They got a stern talking to – a step Sgt Duncan said made it unlikely they would be caught again.

Re the above, perhaps they might not get caught again but there is no guarantee that they will stop drinking. the probability is that they will find somewhere further afield to avoid being caught.

Fining the sellers huge sums and putting a lifetime ban on them for selling alcohol to under age buyers. The ban should also include not being allowed to own or work anywhere alcohol is sold.

Fine the parents heavily for not being in control of their children. We need to get back to the days when most parents cared about where their children were going. I and my friends were always asked where we were going, even when we were eighteen because our parents cared. If we were not home when we said we would be, that could mean loss of liberty for a week or so. Not being able to go out with our friends was a real punishment and you can rest assured that we took care not to be late again. We also would never have returned home smelling of drink.
10

neiceuk,

worcestershire 08/03/2008 11:46:12
Hi.

Big deal! So what? Said fuel head.

So what.My daughter is 13 and last night I had to go and get her as she had drunk half a bottle of vodka. I found out she called a woman that she knows to buy it for her. She couldnt stand up and was sick everywhere when we got home. This has happened 3 times now. The reason she does this as well as cutting herself and ending up in hospital after taking an overdoes is because she said she wants to die. I love her with all my heart. I am a single Mum. I don't scream, hit or anything like that. She is at that age when friends mean everything and they let her down. We are new to the area so it was hard to make friends. I am getting help finally after she nearly died in hospital so saying "big deal. so what" is really a big deal. I know a lot of teens do it and they go on causing trouble but there are some out there that do it because they are troubled. Either home life, school pressure and they need help not comments like that.
Denise.

 

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