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Published Date: 14 February 2008
THE number of senior-ranking police in Scotland's biggest force is to be slashed in a move to boost the number of front-line officers by up to 150.
It is hoped the shake-up will put more officers on the beat
It is hoped the shake-up will put more officers on the beat
Steve House, the chief constable of Strathclyde, has decided to wield the axe over dozens of superintendent posts, freeing some £2 million in salaries to be spent on new recruits.

The extra spending on community officers will satisfy a clamour from politicians and the public for more front-line police.

The Scotsman also understands that hundreds of office-bound police have been given annual quotas of weekend shifts policing crime hotspots, such as Glasgow city centre – a move that has disgruntled many officers.

The Strathclyde shake-up has been welcomed by police representatives and politicians, and will be closely watched by Scotland's other seven forces, which are also under pressure to deliver more front-line officers.

Mr House, a former assistant commissioner with the Metropolitan Police in London, who moved to Scotland last November, has compared Strathclyde with other forces of similar size, such as Greater Manchester, and concluded it is top-heavy.

It is understood the number of superintendent posts – which come with a salary in the region of £60,000 – will be slashed from 85 to about 55.

Greater Manchester Police which, like Strathclyde, has about 8,000 officers, has only 59 superintendents.

The cuts will be phased in over the next three years and will be delivered largely by not replacing retiring officers with others who would hold the same rank, but instead giving lower-ranked officers more responsibility.

Representative bodies, including the Scottish Police Federation and the Association of Scottish Police Superintendents, have been consulted and are broadly supportive.

But Raymond Pratt, secretary of the Strathclyde Police Federation, said some chief inspectors were upset at the loss of promotion opportunities, which could lead to an exodus of experienced officers from the force.

He said: "We don't want promotion to stop, but we also appreciate that front-line policing is very important to the public.

"The chief constable is trying to get more officers in the front line through streamlining the posts. In principle, we don't have any objections to that. The management structure needs to be flattened out – but we also need to take into account career progression."

However, one officer said the move had caused discontent among the middle and senior ranks. "He (Mr House] went round a load of superintendents, pointing at them and asking, 'What do you do?', 'What do you do?'. You can understand why he did it, but it went down like a lead balloon," the officer said.

Councillor Paul Rooney, the convener of the Strathclyde joint police board, said that he supported Mr House's plans, and the move was welcomed by other politicians.

Bill Aitken, MSP, the Scottish Conservatives' justice spokesman and convener of Holyrood's justice committee – which branded police resources "inadequate" in a report last month – said: "The public want officers presenting a visible front-line police service. That is what we are trying to do, and I'm pleased Mr House is going in this direction."

Pauline McNeill, MSP, Labour's justice spokeswoman, said: "Anything that puts more police officers on the streets has to be welcomed."

Mr House is expected to implement a number of structural changes to make the force more efficient. One will involve giving chief inspectors more responsibilities by putting them in charge of subdivisions currently headed by superintendents. Another will be to reduce the number of subdivisions.

Cuts are also likely to be targeted at non-operational departments, such as personnel and corporate planning. These are currently headed by a chief superintendent, with a number of superintendents as deputies.

Under the plan, there would be fewer deputy posts, with a small number of chief superintendent posts also likely to be cut. The Scotsman understands that desk-bound police – who currently work nine-to-five shifts – will be forced to spend a dozen Fridays and Saturdays every year on street patrol.

One officer said: "It'll put more cops out on the beat, but it has really hacked a lot of them off."

Mr House said: "Since taking over the post of chief constable, I have made it quite clear publicly that my main priority is to free up all resources within the organisation to increase the number of front-line police officers across the force. This is what the public quite rightly demand.

"As a result, the force is currently carrying out a number of reviews to look at back-office structure and middle and senior-management posts.

"One of these reviews is around superintendents' posts and is ready for approval."

The chief constable added: "I'm sure that this, along with other initiatives, will allow the people of Strathclyde to see more foot-patrol officers on their street, tackling violence and antisocial behaviour in the community."

Fears chief was 'pressured' into shake-up
CHIEF Constable Steve House's pledge to shake up police ranks will be music to the ears of Kenny MacAskill, the justice secretary, who has repeatedly promised to deliver extra officers by "redeploying" resources.

But last night, Pauline McNeill, Labour's justice spokeswoman and the MSP for Glasgow Kelvin, said:

"I would like reassurances that these ideas are (Mr House's] alone, and he has not come under any pressure from government to make these changes."

A Scottish Government spokesman said: "This is an operational matter for the chief constable. However, this government is committed to delivering a more visible policing presence on our streets and in our communities.

"We are directly funding the recruitment of 1,000 officers. We are determined to work with chief constables and police boards to improve the retention of officers and support the redeployment of officers to enhance operational policing."

NEW BOSS HAILED AS 'A BREATH OF FRESH AIR'HE HAS only officially been in post for a few weeks, but Steve House has already made his mark on Scotland's biggest police force.

Since replacing the retiring Willie Rae, the former Metropolitan Police assistant commander has spoken out about the terrorist threat facing Scotland and the need for more action to tackle domestic abuse. Raymond Pratt, head of the Scottish Police Federation in Strathclyde, said Mr House was a "breath of fresh air".

"He's come in with lots of ideas to get more officers on the street. We support what he's trying to do."

Mr House was born in Glasgow and attended Kelvinside Academy, but his family moved to London when he was 12. He joined Sussex Police in 1981 and has since served with West Yorkshire and Northamptonshire Police. In 2001, he joined the Met as a deputy assistant commissioner and was put in charge of specialist crime.

'Harder task' in other forces

MIDDLE and senior management posts in Scotland's police service are facing a growing squeeze amid a clamour from the public and politicians for more front-line officers.

For each superintendent, up to three constables could be hired.

But Strathclyde is unusually top-heavy and some say it will be harder for Scotland's other forces to be streamlined.

Strathclyde has one superintendent for every 88 officers. Under Mr House's plan, that ratio would increase to about one in 150.

The ratio at Lothian and Borders is about one in 95. At Dumfries and Galloway, it is one in 100.





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  • Last Updated: 13 February 2008 11:55 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Law and Order
 
1

Conan the Librarian™,

14/02/2008 00:05:37
One officer said: "It'll put more cops out on the beat, but it has really hacked a lot of them off."


If you can't beat them, sack them.
2

Cabbage Patch Troll,

14/02/2008 00:06:53
Bookmarked for closer study.
3

beckypumps1,

Fife 14/02/2008 00:13:48
In a lot of industries or careers if you are posh, we have the problem of to many chiefs and not enough Indians. Promotion can be used to ride the workforce of idiots, far simpler to promote than sack. I am all for this and hopefully it can be rolled out among other public sector groups.
4

Don't run greetin to me when you break a leg!,

Falkirk 14/02/2008 00:19:26
Smear campaign being prepared by office dwelling cops who work Monday to Friday 9-5. No?

Those of you, and you know who you are,hiding in cosy little offices,empire building,look out cos Stevey boy is going to get you.(Not a minute too late either)

The DDA will provide more than enough cops to work in offices who are genuinely not fit for front line duty.

5

J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 14/02/2008 00:19:39
More front line police has to be good, but It will slow the career paths of many, I also assume that by giving lower ranking officers more responsibility they will not be getting the appropriate numeration.

6

J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 14/02/2008 00:24:21
#3

Somebody should have a look at Fife Council ripe for savings
7

beckypumps1,

Fife 14/02/2008 00:38:36
6 please dont get me started about Fife Council.
8

J J MAROONER,

KIRKCALDY 14/02/2008 00:45:44
#7

Fair enough - I take it you are one of the minority that live in Fife but dont work for the Council.
9

beckypumps1,

Fife 14/02/2008 00:53:11
8 Fife Council employ many people as to how many actually work for them is a mute point.
10

John Blackley,

Winter Garden, FL 14/02/2008 01:39:10
Sounds like a sensible plan. While I don't know the force intimately enough to talk about 'hiding idiots' or 'too many chiefs', it's usually a good tactic to push responsibility down in an organisation.

As for the office-bound bobbies whose gruntles have been dissed, well, the poor lambs should look for another office - the one that used to be called the unemployment office.
11

donald,

glasgow 14/02/2008 02:26:44
PCs OCs cut for PCs. Not very PC.
12

Scott Webb,

14/02/2008 04:04:00
Im with comment two :)
13

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 14/02/2008 04:07:06
Local Government Chief Executives please note!!
14

forbes,

edinburgh 14/02/2008 04:15:14
looks like all the gratious promotions involved in policing the g8 summit are coming home to roost.
lothian and borders promoted a large number of officers, just prior to the event, to apparently give them superior status over officers giving mutual aid from other forces. what are thet doing now?.

after the 'back slapping success' of the policing of G8 certain forces were, known by the 'plebes' (rank and file officers) to be top heavy of senior officers and posts were 'created for them'. Thus presenting the top heavy forces we now have.
years ago senior divisional officers chief inspectors, superindentents and ch. supts., turned out for a few hours on a friday or saturday night, in uniform with the intention of to see what went on at the force's busiest times. Now that there are more of them are they obvious???
so have any of your contributors seen an oficer over the rank of inpector on the streets?.
not including football / rugby matches.
lets get back to proper beat policing and not just the 'hotspots' at the weekend where the majority of officers are dragged into the city centre to deal with the dispersal of clubs pubs etc. leaving a scant supply of officers to deal with any problems in outlying areas.
15

Drum Major,

Australia 14/02/2008 07:08:52
I am intrigued why there are so many police forces in the UK. Surely with an English, Scotish, Irish & Welsh force you have it covered. That would remove a lot of admistration & desk bound cops out the door to operational work or to the dole queue (don't bother your redundancy payment will exclude you up to pension day). The Commissioner & Deputy Commissioner in each capital city and Assistant Commissioner or Chief Superintendant overseeing large regions that guarantees a flatter management structure.
16

buller,

Macduff 14/02/2008 07:20:45
Maybw but this is not a SLASHING like you or me would experience, paid off 12 weeks redundancy , a trip to the social sign on and maybe a job stacking shelves or pushing trollies till retiring age.This will envolve settlements and FULL SALARY early retirment!!!! Awaiting the details, AS WE ARE PAYING FOR IT !!!
17

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 07:30:04
Isnt it marvelous seeing the changes in Scotlands attitudes. Scots are coming out with some really great initatives and there is a real buzz of excitement and confidence coming to the fore. The sad thing is that the things happening today, should have been the norm. Who can we thank for this?. Yes its the SNP Scottish Government, and no matter what tripe you naysayers Britnats spout in these forums, you know its the truth of the matter, and it scares you. And the likes of Irishman AM2, he is practically taking a hairy fit.
18

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 07:36:57
How many of us have ever seen a Superintendent on the street ?
19

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 07:43:06
They won't like it up 'em Mr. Mainwaring. Meteoric career paths stalled, meetings about meetings cancelled, envelopes unpushed, beans uncounted, strategies unwritten. Possibly, some people might have to actually do what the job entails, namely encounter the public. It won't last but a good first effort, Mr. House.
20

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 08:33:37
One officer said: "It'll put more cops out on the beat, but it has really hacked a lot of them off."

Hacked off because they are being ordered to do a job they are very well paid for??? The whole point about being a policeman is to patrol the streets, catch criminals and prevent crime.

If they want a desk job join the Civil Service, see how low the pay is at admin grade then grumble.

21

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 08:36:22
# 15 Drum Major,Australia

Because we are separate countries and have different legal jurisdictions. It's just the same as USA and Canada.
22

rawhide ,

14/02/2008 08:52:09
Nice job, getting rid of the fat lazy ersed pen pushing
plonkers.
23

Stevec010,

Ayrshire 14/02/2008 09:07:01
I hope Mr House does not stop at getting rid of Senior Officers, and looks towards the many Cops & Sgts who are motovated by the Pound note, and not the Job.
24

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 14/02/2008 09:28:52
#22 - I think you misunderstood the question. Why do we have so many police forces? Surely (and I tend to agree) one Scottish Police Force with a "Chief of Police" who monitors divisions based in each major city (5 of them) with a specialist national Drug Control unit makes more sense than 6 or so Police forces? Less management and more police who actually go face to face with the public - yes please!
25

Scruffy (the eejit slayer),

From Above 14/02/2008 09:29:24
what difference will it make .....more cops to give us parking tickets and stop us for speeding at 35 mph....

In my opinion each police station should be controlled by each local authority to provide a service suitable to that community that doesn't involve stealing our hard earned cash.

They need to be controlled by the long firm arm of the public !!
26

kamiddler,

Glasgow 14/02/2008 09:39:10
Twenty years ago there were 126 separate constabularies in England and Wales; today there are 43. In Scotland in 1945 49 force existed; by 1969 this number had been reduced to 20, and in 1975 it fell to 8.

If there is any natural law of organisation it is the one which ties size and formality and complexity of structure. The larger the organisation, the larger will be its administrative component, and the more resources will be devoted to ordinary housekeeping activities, to recruitment, training and career management. The larger the organisation, the less chance will its members have of knowing each other and of fully appreciating the overall activities of which they are a part, and the greater will be the reliance upon indirect and impersonal forms of control and supervision.
27

Morbo,

14/02/2008 09:45:30
#26 - you're right. In the future the police will be part of the inland revenue.
28

Clive Hamblin,

Hove, Sussex 14/02/2008 10:37:46
Is it the same in Scotlans as in Sussex; too many Policemen and not enough coppers?
29

ken 17,

Kirkintilloch 14/02/2008 11:19:29
"Pauline McNeill, MSP, Labour's justice spokeswoman, said: "Anything that puts more police officers on the streets has to be welcomed.""
But last night, Pauline McNeill, Labour's justice spokeswoman and the MSP for Glasgow Kelvin, said:

"I would like reassurances that these ideas are (Mr House's] alone, and he has not come under any pressure from government to make these changes."

This is typical of a Labour Politician!

Must say something but never says anything worthwhile, which of her statements is to be believed?

Also if she wants 'Reassurances' she's already had assurances.

How much does she gat paid, my grandson's got abetter command of english!!!!
30

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 14/02/2008 11:24:17
Pauline McNeill, please spare us from your continual sniping. How did you ever get to be a Justice spokeswoman in any case? The answer of course is the dearth of talent within Scottish Labour.
31

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 11:32:34
Good idea!

Hopefully all the daft political correctness will go with them.
32

treacleswamp,

14/02/2008 11:36:18
What a huge waste of public expenditure! Cut the number of posts, surely (most of these will be off front line duties and tied up in administration, for which they're poorly equipped, skilled workers are much cheaper), but the move will surely generate early retirement applications, which are very expensive.
33

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 14/02/2008 11:56:53
#21 Rambo: You would think that that would be the case wouldn't you? After all it's enshrined in the opening sections of the Police (Scotland) Act 1967 - "..to guard, patrol and watch... to prevent crime, preserve order and detect offenders..."

I'm paraphrasing a bit here but that was essentially the sense of the Police function. Not any more. Successive generations of ACPOS officers have surreptitiously discredited that sentiment, questioning whether it is relevant, fit for purpose etc...

This is why we are where we are now, with the proliferation of quasi-police bodies, like CSOs, coming to you soon and the Executive and ACPOS' recent cynical cosying up to the Special Constabulary, getting them to believe that they really want them out and about, when all it is is a cost cutting exercise intended to hoodwink the public into believing that they are being looked after.

This report is another red herring. This rank has had its numbers cut and been rebadged so often, then brought back to the level it was before.

This initiative will raise its head again in a few years after the dust settles. Hardly surprising really; A Police Superintendent is one of the best jobs in the public sector - they delegate everything!
34

Scotland to prosper...,

14/02/2008 12:21:45
#30 and 31

Completely agree.

It's becoming more apparent everyday the amateur level Labour is now operating at. The statement made by Pauline McNeill was plucked out of thin air purely in order for her to “be heard” on the matter.

What is her point exactly? Does she really think Mr House, after having only been in the job a few weeks, would allow himself to be “bullied” into making such a significant shake-up? These sort of bullying tactics may go on inside Labour but she is clutching at the most pathetic of straws by suggesting Mr House has been pressured into this pledge by the Scottish Government.
35

Logie Almond,

14/02/2008 12:23:57
Long overdue! Now can the armed forces do the same. I believe we have about 500 squadron leaders and only about 20 squadrons, hundreds of admirals and only about 40 ships, etc., etc.,etc...
36

MickyFinn,

Southern Scotland 14/02/2008 12:26:08
Now they have started on the Supts maybe the forces in Scotland will address the rest of the "Top Heavy" positions ie Do they require ACC or DCC, Ch Insps where Inspectors will suffice. Imagine the monies released back into the budgets. However cannot see the Turkeys voting for Christmas!
37

Number 6,

germany 14/02/2008 12:37:29
More good work coming out of the Scottish Parliment. These are the kind of initiatives that will actually
benefit the community, and strengthen the Police's
place in the public's eye. The Police must regain the respect of the population at large, and they can only do that by engaging, face to face with the public. More police on the streets will have a huge effect on street crime, and good to see the pen-pushers will be dragged from behind their desks and "Degree Cops" been
given the boot.

The police must also root out the feckless and lazy from their ranks, if we don't have enough suitable candidates in Scotland then we can always recruit from englandshire, i'm sure they would welcome the vast improvement in terms and conditions, with the added bonus of the opportunity to bash a few scottish neds head's in. Much more of the same please.
38

ACM,

Bearsden 14/02/2008 15:27:45
Why stop at reducing senior ranks. Why not include all police officers who do not do front line police work, e.g. The Pipe Band
39

Roberta Burns,

14/02/2008 15:49:34
18 A Better Way,Edinburgh : I totally agree with you. As an ex-labour party member, I am delighted with what the SNP are doing. It is certainly looking like a party of the people, for the people. Well done, Alex Salmond
40

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14/02/2008 15:57:49
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14/02/2008 15:59:28
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42

Bewildered,

Glasgow 14/02/2008 16:49:39
I had imagined that the new police officers promised by the SNP Government were to funded from new, additional money rather than re-hashing existing numbers and funding.
How wrong did that turn out to be ! I took an SNP promise at face value; how silly of me !
43

Roberta Burns,

14/02/2008 16:58:26
44# That would only give the likes of you more to whinge about. Although, looks like you don't need any excuse to whinge.
44

Evia,

14/02/2008 17:23:51
#13 Mercutio,FALKIRK

I'm with you on this one.

This should be done in all organisations that are top heavy.
45

gaffer,

Kamloops 14/02/2008 17:55:44
interesting thought , but will those who are let go also go with a massive buy-out and a great pension , so where is the saving`s
46

J.M.,

Cupar 14/02/2008 18:01:58
Go to the headquarters of Fife Police in Glenrothes. There you will find a factory-type atmosphere with a huge office-bound workforce. Go out on the streets of Glenrothes and you will not find an available police officer. At any one time there are usually only two officers at most, working on the streets of the town. I have this from a police inspector with whom I am friendly. He and many other officers are disillusioned with the deployment of personnel and financial resources by the present Chief Constable.
47

Katty,

Bannockburn 14/02/2008 18:42:23

Good, first the top heavy police next the top heavy Health Service.

I believe the the councils will be doing their own head hunting.

NEXT
48

Katty,

Bannockburn 14/02/2008 18:45:11
44 bewildered

Yes you do sound like you are a bit away with the fairies
49

JG,

Fife 14/02/2008 18:51:21
#49 Katty
What about the politicians? There are FAR too many of them; at great and unwarranted expense to well, us!!
50

Don't run greetin to me when you break a leg!,

Falkirk 14/02/2008 18:59:00
#40 Gorgie Tony
Congratulations.
I do believe that is the first reasoned and agreeable statement you have ever made about the Police.
(And you HAVE made many!)
I never thought i'd say this but i'm with Gorgie Tony on this one.
51

VC Horseguy,

14/02/2008 19:34:41
I bet a lot of those office bound police are in a way anchored to their desk chairs because they can't get their fat "buttocks" (the Scotsman wouldn't post with my original choice of ar*es, so I must consider myself censored. Oh the SHAME) unstuck. And they're worried that walking a beat will slim them down and then they'll have to spend money to get their uniforms tailored, and if they keep losing weight they might have to buy new uniforms...oh the stress! Oh, I wonder if in those concerns of leaving the office they once considered how they might actually benefit the taxpayer by protecting them? That's a question to ponder now.
52

VC Horseguy,

14/02/2008 19:37:13
I bet there won't be any donuts left over by the end of the day and they'll have to buy their own. God that is one stressful job.
53

Charles1234,

14/02/2008 21:22:24
"But last night, Pauline McNeill, Labour's justice spokeswoman and the MSP for Glasgow Kelvin, said: "I would like reassurances that these ideas are (Mr House's] alone, and he has not come under any pressure from government to make these changes." "

What an utterly paranoid comment.
54

Drum Major,

Australia 15/02/2008 04:52:05
#22 Rambo read it again. Yes Scotland is one country therefore one police force to cover the whole of Scotland. No little fifedoms (even in Fife). That would really save money. Far less duplication of administration but more communication and more crims caught. Probably fill up that womens prison.
55

VC Horseguy,

USA 15/02/2008 22:29:16
Hey guys, I've been reading the Scotsman loyally for almost 2 years, What's a numpty? Help a yank out here.
56

Evia,

17/02/2008 00:00:56
#60 VC Horseguy, USA

A numpty is someone who is intellectually challenged, a fool, an idiot, a muppet etc

 

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