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Pot-holes cost councils £2m compensation as our roads disintegrate



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Published Date: 28 March 2008
IT IS the pot-hole version of a speed trap – once you’ve hit it, it’s too late.
A water-filled hole stretching across one lane of the Gallowgate in Glasgow’s East End caught many drivers unaware yesterday – and potentially to their cost.

The 6in-deep gap could become just the latest of thousands of road defects across Scotlan
d which have led to compensation pay-outs totalling almost £2 million over the past five years.

The pot-hole was the worst of ten spotted by The Scotsman on a 50yd stretch of the four-lane road beside Millroad Drive.

Nearby residents said the road was a nightmare.

Ronald Price, 80, a retired road builder, said: “It’s terrible. The road is not built properly, with insufficient foundations.

“The holes just get filled up temporarily – they do not make a good job of it.”

Alan Learmonth, 35, an unemployed roadie, said pot-holes posed particular problems for cyclists like himself.

He said: “It’s quite bad – there are a lot of bits where you need to swerve in and out to avoid pot-holes and crumbling drains near the side of the road.

“However, I phoned the council about a couple of holes and they fixed them.”

Glasgow City Council paid £187,000 to drivers whose vehicles were damaged by road defects in the five years to last April. This was the third-largest pay-out level after Edinburgh, with almost £638,000, and Aberdeen, with nearly £197,000. Shetland, renowned for its well-maintained roads – paid nothing.

Some figures in the survey of non-trunk roads by BBC Scotland also included compensation for tripping and falls.

Taxi and motoring groups said the survey reflected the terrible state of Scotland’s roads.

Peter Spinney, who chairs the Association of British Drivers in Scotland, said his car had suffered more than £1,000 of damage from a road in Bearsden in East Dunbartonshire.

He said: “My last car suffered three broken half-shafts on a road here, at £350 a time.

“It has taken ten years to get that road patched up,” he added. “Local authorities only pay a small fraction of the pot-hole damage in their area.”

Bill McIntosh, the general secretary of the Scottish Taxi Federation, said: “I’m surprised the compensation figure is so low, because the roads are in an atrocious condition. They are so bad that taxis should be fitted with rotor blades to lift them off the ground.”

Warranty Direct, an insurer, has set up the website, www.pot-holes.co.uk, in order to advise motorists.

It said drivers should measure any pot-hole they hit, and photograph both it and the surrounding area, to show there were no warning signs.

Cosla, the umbrella body that represents Scottish councils, said a new deal with the Scottish Government should improve matters.

A Cosla spokeswoman said: “Local authorities are working within a tight financial settlement, but under the concordat with the Scottish Government they are now able to allocate funding to those areas which require the most immediate financial solutions.

“The removal of ring-fencing on funding gives councils greater scope to manage these solutions more effectively.”





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  • Last Updated: 27 March 2008 10:26 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Teofilio Cubillas,

28/03/2008 00:41:46
10/10 to the COSLA spokeswoman for her splendid grasp of management b*ll*cks speak. Worth particular mention is the use of the word 'solutions' twice. Bravo.
2

The Daleks,

Longmen 28/03/2008 01:08:26
Gerri Peev writes, "According to highly placed sources in the Labour Party, Alex Salmond and John Swinney go round digging potholes under cover of night, in further revelations............."
3

Jwil,

28/03/2008 02:13:25
Who is getting all this compensation? I was refused.
S. Lanarkshire owe me £70 for wheel and tyre damage.

I asked for a copy of their road inspection report under freedom of information. The report showed no problems with the road, but the last time it had been inspected was in the previous October whereas my incident was the following February. So as far as I can see, a deliberate council policy not to examine the roads in winter so that they can say 'they were ok the last time we looked'? Sly huh!

4

Mad Jock,

East Lothian 28/03/2008 02:36:12
Why is this headline news? This has been going on for years, and we get the same mealy mouthed excuses every time. There is a solution to all this, but the local authoritied don't, or won't listen.
FIX THE DRAINAGE FROM THE ROADS!
Let the rainwater drain quickly and properly, and potholes don't develop. This would mean that the councils will need to employ a drain vacuum. I remember seeing them regularly as a small boy in the sixties. The drains were always kept clear. How often do we see them nowadays?
In rural areas, the road side ditches need to be dug out again, and the channels that allow rainwater to drain from the road re-opened. The cost of employing a JCB, a truck and four to eight men would be cheaper than paying out claims and to repair the potholes in the first place.
As for the Jet tar machine, it's great in priciple, badly executed in practice. A splodge of soft tar is blasted into the hole and left to cars passing over them to roll them flat. In winter, if a car doesn't pass in about ten minutes, it will have set as a vitual speed hump already. Perhaps that's what they want anyway. No-one is going to risk speeding if there's a chance that their nice low profile tyres and alloy rims are going to take a bashing.
5

Gwnefyr,

Japan 28/03/2008 08:08:26
Could Scottish roadcare may benefit from Japanese way of solving it?Japanese do incredible good road maintainance.And so fast and so safe! Elderly helpers in uniforms for public gudiance directing the traffic during men at work until the job is done.I wish it could happen all around the world as here.
Of course,Japanese also neglect back streets..
6

C,

Glasgow 28/03/2008 08:36:50
Thank God it's "costing the councils" £2M. For a moment I thought that local tax payers were actually footing the bill for this example of council incompetence.
7

Luke Skywalker,

Near a pot hole 28/03/2008 10:58:07
The root of the problem is that the user is not paying. If we could introduce some sort of system where each day a vehicle entered the city boundary and then the city central zone it had to pay a couple of quid then enough money would be raised to maintain the roads. We are living in cloud cuckoo land to think that a hundred and odd quid once a year whether you are a mini or an anti social 4x4 doing huge mileage is sufficient to provide a proper road system.
8

Mad Jock,

East Lothian 28/03/2008 11:07:26
#7, just which school of economics did you attend? The government raises far more in tax from motorists than it spends. Are you, by any chance, a non-road tax paying cyclist?
As for local government, they get revenues from parking fees and fines.
If you are doing huge mileages, which I suggest is impossible in an urban environment, then you are paying much more in fuel tax than the driver who does very little miles.
I am sure that you like it in cloud cuckoo land, but most of us live on planet earth.
9

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 11:22:02
Maybe they should concentrate in repairing the roads rather than ruining them with oversize traffic islands and speed bumps.

The consequences of a motorcyclist hitting the water-filled hole in question may not even bear thinking about.
10

Sedov,

Scotland 28/03/2008 11:24:37
Pot holes cost lives. As a bikerI run the risk of this everyday in and around Edinburgh.
11

truthsleuth,

28/03/2008 12:05:40
The biggest contributor to road damage is the heavy lorry. Its a bout time their operators were made pay their full road costs.

Not far from where I once lived there was a colliery that sent all its coal by rail.
The D(a)fT then allowed 38t lorries.
Most of the coal transferred to road.
The roads leading to and from the colliery deteriorated so fast it was unblievable(?)
The local council tried to get the costs of repairing the roads providing access to the colliery.
They failed surprise surpridse
The reason they could not provide evidence of which lorry did it although all of the coal haulage went out be one haulage company.
I would be interested to hear of other LAs who have tried to get individual road hauliers to pay for the damage THEY do.
12

DAVID,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 12:18:48
In my street in Edinburgh recently, I was amazed to see workmen arrive and dig up and relay certain potholed and rutted parts of the roadway. Not all of them, but some, which I thought was unusual.

They then proceeded to install traffic humps on the nice new flat and smooth parts of the road, leaving the remaining problem areas untouched!

Typical council logic for you. No doubt we'll be stuck with the potholes for years to come now.
13

Upbeat,

28/03/2008 12:23:13
Brilliant suggestion. Stop and photograph it. !

Just before Easter travelling in a modest 4 x 4 (Yes one of those huge gas guzzling (it doesn't ) antisocial things )...we hit a deep pothole in a large area of standing water just south of Inveranan on the A 82. It caused the vehicle to jump onto the opposite side of the road.

We survived.

Will Transerve please reveal how many vehicles were damaged there that week ?
14

Why can't I use my usual name?,

Glasgow 28/03/2008 15:03:51
#8, leave the anti-cyclist nonsense out of this - which road users do you think have the most problems with the terrible state of the roads...?

The Cyclists Touring Club also provide you and everyone else with an excellent resource for reporting potholes: www.fillthathole.org.uk. And you can use it without paying (the (untrue) argument you make about cyclists on the road).

As a coupel of others have mentioned, much of the problem is the (lack of) quality of the repairs: holes get filled but are often in even worse condition a few hours later.
15

Andrew Service,

28/03/2008 20:25:14
Luke Skywalker wrote

"The root of the problem is that the user is not paying. If we could introduce some sort of system where each day a vehicle entered the city boundary and then the city central zone it had to pay a couple of quid then enough money would be raised to maintain the roads. We are living in cloud cuckoo land to think that a hundred and odd quid once a year whether you are a mini or an anti social 4x4 doing huge mileage is sufficient to provide a proper road system."

How much more do you want motorists to pay above the £50 Billion we pay each year in motoring taxes?

If the Government can bail out a bunch of high up stakeholders at the drop of a hat with £50 billion then I'm sure it can stump up the money to fix, once and for all, the majority of the roads problems; in Scotland the backlog is put at around £2 Billion.

16

Chris W,

Argyll 29/03/2008 07:15:58
It is essential people report potholes whenever they see them. Don't assume someone else has already reported it. Many councils let you report potholes online or by email, or make sure you have the relevant phone number in your mobile. This simple effort ensures the council will take action if for no other reason than to stop being bombarded with reports; though the real reason they will fix it quickly is that once you report it, they cannot claim not to know about it. So if someone is injured they know they cannot escape liability.
17

Emma Stevens,

Rosyth 31/03/2008 14:36:33
If at first you don’t succeed then try, try again. We have all heard the saying and its sentiment is certainly admirable, but there comes a time when you have to step back from a problem and question if you are tackling it in the right way.

This is certainly the case with the quality of Scotland’s road surfaces. Despite new more environmentally friendly technology available, enabling potholes to be repaired quickly and more cost effectively, many local authorities still choose to ignore this and rely on old “quick fix” techniques to get the job done.

The number of roads and the volume of traffic using them means these old and more costly methods are simply not feasible. If councils adopted the new methods, there would be twice as many repairs completed resulting in a reduction in the number of claims and complaints received from road users.

It is time to embrace new technology in light of current environmental issues with solutions which can reduce the carbon footprint of traditional methods and also maximise the return on tax payer’s contributions, benefitting all concerned.

Emma Stevens
Nu-Phalt Ltd, Rosyth

 

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