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Published Date: 07 May 2009
THE last member of former Royal Bank of Scotland boss Sir Fred Goodwin's failed top team is set to leave the group with a £517,000-a-year pension.
Deputy chief executive Gordon Pell – who earned £908,000 last year – will retire from the part-nationalised bank early next year at the age of 60 with a pension pot worth £9.8 million.

Mr Pell, who joined the bank in 2000 after it took over Coutts, where he was chief executive, was seen as one of Sir Fred's right-hand men.

At the annual general meeting last month, furious shareholders who had lost millions of pounds between them angrily demanded that Mr Pell should be sacked.

Their other target at the meeting, finance director Guy Whittaker, departed on Tuesday.

The bank's new chairman, Sir Philip Hampton, said at the time that Mr Pell could not be blamed for the bank's collapse.

And he added that Mr Pell was asked to stay on to provide continuity.

Yesterday there was anger that Mr Pell is being allowed to retire normally, which will entitle him to the maximum pension built up over 39 years of service.

Roger Lawson, of the UK Shareholders Association, which represents small investors, said: "I was present at the shareholders' meeting and it was clear there was a lot of anger about Mr Pell continuing on the board.

"Certainly, there needed to be some collective responsibility about what happened and he should have gone as well.

"I think there will be a lot of unhappiness about his pension deal, which seems to be excessive in the circumstances."

He said shareholders were still seething over the way RBS was forced to write off billions of pounds on the purchase of the Dutch bank ABN Amro and soaring bad debts.

As a result, the taxpayer now owns more than 70 per cent of the bank – and the RBS share price has plummeted.

The taxpayer was also exposed to billions more in potential losses after RBS placed hundreds of billions of pounds of toxic debts in a Treasury-backed insurance scheme. This could see the taxpayers' stake in the bank rise as high as 95 per cent.

RBS, which will give its latest trading update tomorrow, announced in April that there would be up to 9,000 job cuts in April as the firm looks to make £2.5 billion in cost savings over the next three years.

Meanwhile, RBS announced yesterday that it was bringing in three new directors.

Mr Pell will be replaced by Brian Hartzer, who joins from Australian bank ANZ.

Paul Geddes, the current chief executive of the UK retail division, will lead its insurance business, which includes Churchill and Direct Line.

Insurance boss Chris Sullivan will move to become chief executive of the corporate banking division.

Chief executive Stephen Hester said: "I am extremely pleased to have been able to move rapidly to assemble a strong leadership team. We have many challenges ahead but really great businesses on which to build."


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1

Boy Wonder,

07/05/2009 00:25:01
This is absolutely disgusting!

Anyone lower than a "boss" would be sacked and no extra wages to compensate!

Welcome to High Finance, where failure is rewarded with enough money to pay TEN staff members who have just been laid off!

I tell you, I'm thinking more and more that Chuckles Linskaill's Bank of Mattress is the right way to go!!!
2

Evia,

07/05/2009 01:37:18
There is a petition on the GoPetitions web site, calling for a reduction in greedy Fred Goodwin's pension and I am surprised that there are not thousands more signatures on it by now. There needs to be a petition started, calling for all these obscene amounts being paid to failed directors etc (that includes politicians).

www.gopetition.com/petitions/reduce-sir-fred-goodwin-pension.html

It is also worthwhile looking in the Downing Street web site

There are many other petitions to do with Greedy goodwin so type in fred goodwin and see what else you might want to sign. He deserves to be stripped of everything.

Perhaps early action could stop the payments to Gordon Pell.
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 02:37:52

Non the wonder it is, Welcome to the, 'Happy-Smile-Club'!
As the picture shows, I to would be smiling with a pension-pot of £9.8 million.

As for our Boy Wonder, what is he doing on here at this time of the morning?

BTW!, He is the only one with a "Bank of Mattress", he still refuses me a 'black-pudding-roll' and a coffee at his place in the morning, he is a miser!

4

weeshooie1,

Wollongong 07/05/2009 04:22:18
Ridiculous! it's gone beyond a joke.

G'day from Downunder guys and guyette (I think), I'd love to be able to swear on this site, it would make commenting so much easier and a darn sight more colourful :0(
5

Bluevoice,

Dubai, U.A.E. 07/05/2009 04:34:16
Dirty business. How much money do these people really need? And at the age of 60???!!! It always amazes me the importance some people put on money. But this appears to be downright theft.
6

Glasgow Expat,

Proud Short Seller 07/05/2009 06:14:27
They just don't get it. A revolution is afoot with deep social unrest. Wait till the FTSE is at 1,500!People are going to jail.
7

Mark Renton,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 06:22:34
Cut the booger's nadds off.
8

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07/05/2009 07:44:48
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Albawolf,

St Andrews 07/05/2009 07:47:30
In order to fix a problem
You must understand
That you have a problem
It is now crystal clear how much senior management at RBS understand

The taxpayer should (but will not) say
Enough is enough
and sell off this bank at best price

That's what should happen
10

drunken proffet,

Tassy 07/05/2009 07:49:56
The last time I trusted my bank or bank manager was in the early 1970's. I wonder what pension the CEO of the Royal Bank of Scotland would expect in those days?
11

Roy,

07/05/2009 08:22:25
The picture says it all - laughing all the way from the bank. And the joke's on us.
12

Phil C,

07/05/2009 08:35:38
This nonsense needs to be sorted NOW! The only reasons these payouts are still going on are that the present occupiers of the golden chairs want the same and that our inept government has done nothing about it! They all deserve the boot, without bonuses and bloated pensions.
13

JayJay,

Right here 07/05/2009 08:51:49
For many years now, the nodding dogs in the boardroom, inspired by remuneration committees filled with similar chaps and given further encouragement by entirely supine institutional shareholders (similarly owned and organised by nondescript men in suits) have told us that their brilliance requires vast salaries and benefits packages. With that myth now well and truly exploded, it is left to the politicians to do something about a culture of reward without fear of penalty for failure.
Alas and alack, the committment of our political elite to put a stick in the spokes of this machine is best exemplified by the former glorious leader, the Tony Blair, accepting a seven figure sum from J P Morgan for no work whatsoever. I can well imagine that the current incumbents of 10 and 11 Downing Street are already well aware of the financial institution that will be remunerating them when the electorate tips them out on their well fed rear ends.
So, like pre Revolutionary France, we have an elite, scoffing fancy buns and greedily gobbling up vast wealth for no identifiable talent, aided and abetted by politicians who can't wait to take their place at the feast. Oh for a Robespierre to deal with these imbiciles.
14

Mike S,

07/05/2009 09:12:13
#8 Spagan. The two banks that failed big time were RBS and HBOS (Scottish roots) under a Scottish Chancellor (Gordon) and finished under another Scottish Chancellor. Of course Scotland could do better remember the Darien scheme.
15

Tris,

07/05/2009 09:38:12
Wonderful: The people who have lost their jobs because of these men's greed and stupidity are the ones who will be paying taxes to provide the salaries and pensions for them.

Nice to see that 12 years of socialist government has brought about a more equal society.
16

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07/05/2009 10:01:58
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Mike S,

07/05/2009 10:08:18
#17 What allies would that be? I thought everyone was against the English? The malt up your way gives an interesting perspective on things.
18

Andy1,

07/05/2009 10:18:19
The reporting in the Scotsman really is at the level of The sun now.

Mr Pell's businesses have been very profitable and were not linked to the recent problems. Yes, as one of 18 Board members he shared some responsibility over all but his area was a godd business.

He also had an outstnading carrer at Lloyds.

This is not a payoff, this his pension that he has built up over his entire working life.

As for the end of the aricle - 3 new Directors? Nonsense. None of the appointments are Board level and two are just changing roles internally.

19

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07/05/2009 11:11:53
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07/05/2009 11:39:36
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Steven P,

edinburgh 07/05/2009 11:41:19
#19 Pell's pension benefits creaked to halt the moment RBS went bust. The pension pot he had creamed off died there. I dont object to him earning 18 times what I earn. I absolutely object to him pocketing a pension 60 times what my pension fund now tells me its worth, funded by the taxpayer.
Anyone watch Reservoir Dogs last night?
We should lock Pell, Goodwin, Whittaker et al in a room with a Harvey Keitel type and let him do his worst.

22

Tartan Viking,

07/05/2009 12:19:14
Somebody should get the bullet at the Hoosmon. This is a repeat of the same story from yesterday.
23

almakada,

North Berwick 07/05/2009 12:20:33
With 39 years' service and a normal pension age of 60; there is nothing improper about this pension - it is his basic entitlement. Indeed he would get virtually the same whether he were sacked or retired.
24

Tartan Viking,

07/05/2009 12:22:01
#22 Steven,

Fred Goodwin's pension is worth approximately 30 times the average salary. That little git is not worth 30 times anybody's salary. Obscene.
25

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/05/2009 13:30:04
I await the moral outrage from Broon and Harperson.
26

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/05/2009 13:31:04
1 boy wonder

"I tell you, I'm thinking more and more that Chuckles Linskaill's Bank of Mattress is the right way to go!!! "

Who wants soggy money?
27

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/05/2009 13:32:25
2 evia

Please explain why Sir Fred should be "stripped of everything".
28

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/05/2009 13:37:08
If you want an example of greed, look no further than Tony and Cherie Blair. Sir Fred's supposed greed pales into insignificance in comparison.
29

Proghead,

Embra 07/05/2009 13:39:39
When Tommy Sheridan called for banks to be naionalised a few years ago he was derided as a fool. Fool he may be, but where are we now ? A friend who worked for RBS at the time similarly decried Mr Sheridan suggesting he misunderstood how RBS and the like worked hard to create wealth for everyone. Again, where are we now and who are the fools? I don't particularly support Tommy, but there was some substance to his claim.
30

Ananurhing,

07/05/2009 13:58:34
I recently got rid of the credit card terminals for my business. The bank whacked up the charges, and changed the terms again. Someone's got to pay for these pensions and SMEs are a soft target. In a fit of pique I cancelled the contract, unplugged the terminals, and dumped them at the bank. Can't tell you how good that felt.

I can honestly say I've never lost a sale from it. Just the opposite. It's been interesting how warmly people have responded when told why they can't use their card. Even bank employees. If people feel they've made an ethical purchase, it adds to their enjoyment, and they talk about it.

At the weekend a couple came in, made a good purchase and payed with cash. Turns out they had made a 120 mile round trip to see us after their daughter had told them about our stance, and how good we are. They were delighted to support our position, and felt they were making a statement.

I'm really surprised by people's reactions, I hadn't planned on it. Not only are we getting kudos, I saved £87.00 on one transaction last week, and got paid in cash.

I know it only really works for high value, low volume transactions, but it's working for me.
As customers, remember cash is king nowadays. Ask for discount not to use your card. Tell them why and you might get extra discount. Real cashback! It might catch on. We could call it "Goodwin's price"!

An American client of mine that I see regularly, decided to enlighten me on the secret of his success. He said "Rule no. 1. Have as little as possible to do with banks, and never borrow money from 'em!"
Easy to say I suppose if like him you've got nodding donkeys in your back yard. Seriously, he has!
31

JayJay,

Right here 07/05/2009 15:18:00
#19
If only it were possible for board members to pick and choose their rights and responsibilities, but I am afraid that Pell was just as culpable for the acquisition of ABN Amro as anyone else who rubber stamped the deal. Indeed, as one of Fred's trusted goons it could sensibly be argued that he was perhaps more to blame for, lets not forget, the largest loss in UK corporate history than others on the board.
But that's nit picking and who really knows how it worked in the RBS boardroom. Indeed who knows how much of their profits in previous years had more to do with financial engineering than actually measuring the underlying profitability of the business.
However, perhaps more worrying is your belief that Pell's pension had built up over his "entire working life". I believe Goodwin has previously road tested this excuse and it works perfectly well so long as you don't trawl over the RBS accounts of the last five years or so and read just how much the Bank was paying into the pension pots of their board as "one off top ups". You would require a staggering pension pot to generate an annuity of £500k plus.
RBS as a bank, and its pension fund, is being propped up by every UK taxpayer. Without our largesse, Mr Pell would have some job trying to extract £500k plus per annum from a receiver. And that, my friend, is exactly why people have a right to be angered by the bumper entitlements being paid to some of the worst directors in UK corporate history.
32

Ananurhing,

07/05/2009 15:57:05
#32 JayJay

Sir Fred's pot received a "one off top up" of 100% just days before he fled his bunker on The Mound.
£8m to £16m. Of taxpayer's money! He mugged us!

Astonishingly British how we all shrug and acquiesce to this. We should be chasing them down the road with fiery torches and a length of rope!

33

Tartan Viking,

07/05/2009 18:47:35
#33. Ananurhing,07/05/2009 15:57:05

"Sir Fred's pot received a "one off top up" of 100% just days before he fled his bunker on The Mound.
£8m to £16m. Of taxpayer's money! He mugged us!"

The RBS are the muggers here Ananurhing. They mugged £800 million from the taxpayers's bail out to top their own pension fund up. Highway robbers. They should be going to work in masks.

34

Tris,

07/05/2009 21:22:41
Good grief, where's Lord Myners when you need him.....?

....like anyone would ever need him!
35

Scottyt,

Saint Paul, Usa 07/05/2009 23:09:59
"Kept on for "continuity"????

In other words, same-oh; same-oh - - - with the same horrendous practices as freddie boy pulled. Sounds like the new "heid yin" in as bad as the old one.

I doubt any of us low-lives would be kept on after failing in our jobs for the sake of "continuity".
36

usblueflyer,

USA 08/05/2009 01:28:59
As an airline employee who has 'suffered' multiple pay reductions, I support ANY prosecution of a 'top man' who continues to 'rape' the common man.

 

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