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By-election looms after McConnell is urged to quit as MSP



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Published Date: 25 June 2008
WENDY Alexander is likely to face a crucial test of her leadership in the next few months after a Commons committee called on Jack McConnell to resign his seat in the Scottish Parliament and trigger a by-election.



The former First Minister is due to take up the post of British High Commissioner to Malawi early next year but has yet to give any indication of when he will step down from Holyrood.

Yesterday, the Commons foreign affairs select committee
made it clear he could not prepare to take over such a sensitive diplomatic role while continuing as an MSP.

The MPs said it was important to have as seamless a transition as possible after the February departure of the current High Commissioner, Richard Wildash, and Mr McConnell should leave the Scottish Parliament in good time to take over from him.

It is understood he now accepts that he will have to stand down as MSP for Motherwell and Wishaw in the near future, and that will trigger a by-election.

The Lanarkshire seat has been safe Labour territory for decades and Mr McConnell won in 2007 with a majority of almost 6,000 over the SNP.

But given Labour's plummeting poll ratings nationally and the extended honeymoon period that Alex Salmond is still enjoying as First Minister, that majority could soon disappear.

It is understood the former MSP Brian Fitzpatrick is among those being considered as possible Labour candidates.

Ms Alexander, the Scottish Labour leader, has struggled to command universal support within her party, and her aides are aware her position will come under intense pressure if Labour loses. The SNP is preparing to throw everything at the by-election, whenever it is called, because a win would allow the SNP to extend its wafer-thin gap over Labour at Holyrood from one to three seats.

That would make a big difference to the Scottish Government and mean it would not have to court the support of the Greens or Margo MacDonald, the independent MSP, every time it needed to win a vote.

Mr McConnell said: "The handover arrangements for the post are entirely a matter for the Foreign Office, and in the meantime my priorities remain serving the people of Motherwell and Wishaw and my voluntary work."

A Labour spokesman said Mr McConnell had not received a contract from the Foreign Office and would decide what to do when he did so.

The Foreign Office said it would be "unusual" for there to be a gap between the departure of one High Commissioner and the arrival of another, adding: "We would obviously like to have him in post as soon as we possibly can."

Christina McKelvie, an SNP MSP, called on Mr McConnell to quit and spark a by-election.

"Jack McConnell can be an excellent High Commissioner, but he cannot be preparing to be a neutral civil servant and a Labour MSP at the same time," she said.

David McLetchie, for the Conservatives, said: "The decision when to resign as an MSP is one for Jack McConnell to take.

"However, if he wants to go now, then the Labour Party in Scotland should put no obstacles in his way out of party self- interest. The recognition by the Labour-dominated select committee that a period of preparation is necessary for such a post is a sensible conclusion."





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  • Last Updated: 24 June 2008 11:54 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish Labour Party
 
1

druidh,

edinburgh 25/06/2008 00:04:49
"Extended honeymoon". . . .LOL
2

Arrow,

edinburgh 25/06/2008 00:11:42
is the correct expression not "BRING IT ON" or does that not count if it is not Wendy saying it?
3

SlyFifer,

California 25/06/2008 00:21:10
Ah a by election 0h how nice. Wouldn't it be so nice to have another choice besides the SNP, ie another party with an independence agenda, centre/possibly centre right to a degree, non EU, non police state, non nuclear weapons, anti war etc etc as opposed to the usual has beens.
4

karinxxx,

25/06/2008 00:26:28
1. thought you might like to see the online dictionary definition of a honeymoon.

1. a vacation or trip taken by a newly married couple.
2. the MONTH or so following a marriage.
3. any period of blissful harmony: Their entire 60 years of marriage was one long honeymoon.
4. any new relationship characterized by an initial period of harmony and goodwill: The honeymoon between Congress and the new president was over.
5

karinxxx,

25/06/2008 00:28:20
jack mcconnel wont quit because he is a big feartie as are the rest of the labour party they are terrified because they know in their private polling that the snp are going to win this seat.
6

Nikostratos,

25/06/2008 00:35:10
This might shed a bit more light on it



"McConnell told the committee in an evidence session in April that he had still not agreed a starting date for the new post - and might not even take up the post next year"

"We recommend that the FCO and Mr McConnell should resolve this issue swiftly and make a public announcement that Mr McConnell will take up post on a specified date within the first half of 2009."
7

Uilleam Mor,

25/06/2008 00:54:54
Like Robert Mugabe, Gordon Brown fears the ballot box.

So does his party!

On the issue of the Lisbon Treaty and that of Scotland's Constitutional future, Gordon Brown will does not give the people a vote.

Similary, last October Mr Brown did not give the people the opportunity to mandate his elevation to Prime Minister.

Un-mandated he stands, and to reinforce his resistance to the ballot box, his party are now refusing to give the voters a choice in the forecoming by-election in David Davis's constituency since they are refusing to field a Labour candidate.

It should come as no surprise therefore that his party will neither now afford the electorate in Motherwell the opportunity to elect a replacement for Jack ( Two Jobs) McConnell MSP.

Robert Mugabe / Gordon Brown and Zanu PF / New Labour. You can see the comparison.

Time for us to rid ourselves of this rotten Facist Government who fears the electorate.

8

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 25/06/2008 02:54:40
Bring it on. The excitement is almost palpable to see Brown and his wee poodle duggie Wendy get a hisspounding.
One small step for man. One more big step for UDI.
9

Snuffy Ivy,

Aberdeen 25/06/2008 03:38:09
A REAL 21st Century Election Bloodbath for Labour!

Let me order in the beer and crisps and haul out my favourite recliner. I can't wait for this!!!
10

Jeeemy,

St Andrews 25/06/2008 04:08:19
Come on people get real, the reason Gordon Brown did not call a general election last year is quite simple, and there is nothing in the piggy bank to pay for it. With a total debt of £21 million, and nobody needing a peerage, the trade unions having painted themselves into a corner, they have neither the willpower nor the ability to bankroll an election either.

So with a bye election pending in Harrow, no great effort needed there! But spending some monies they have not got is worrying them.
The fact that the Scottish branch members could not organise a coffee morning between them, without one or more of them putting their fingers in the till say’s it all really.

With that in mind Jack McConnell’s resignation, and subsequent bye election in North Lanarkshire is a No, No, without a doubt. Wendy does not want it and Gordon definitely would not tolerate it.
11

amcl,

glasgow 25/06/2008 04:09:43
all those clapped in faces,poverty, deprivation, no meaningful employment and a timber frame hospital. Surprised he hasn't jumped at the chance of Malawi already.
12

Castaway,

25/06/2008 05:05:44
#12:Jeeemy,
May 2009 England local council elections,moved to the 4 June 2009?
4 June 2009 EU elections
May 2010 possible UK general election
Sept 2010 possible Scottish Referendum
May 2011 Scottish Parliament elections

13

bring them on,

25/06/2008 05:22:38
He'll need time to get his mosquito nets and required injections.

Give this faithful servant a bit of time, please.
14

Rodster,

Glasgow 25/06/2008 05:49:54
Cancel General election,refuse referendum on Lisbon.
Wont contest by election in David Davis constituency .
refuse to let Jack Mcconnell resign and hold a by election in Motherwell and Wishaw , and condemn Mugabe and ZanuPF for electoral fraud and manipulation ,as they say you could not make it up
15

Jimmy the Pie,

25/06/2008 07:06:42
Bring it on!!

Lets get on with it!!

Can't wait for this by-election!!!

They can't blame the media when they get gubbed.

The press and BBC are blatant in their bias to New Labour Sleaze and Corruption.

Time to start the campaign I think.

Any more news on that famous book, Halls Of Infamy, an everyday story of greed,avarice, corruption and sleaze by a Scottish council led by a well known political party???
16

Macuistean,

Isle of Tiree 25/06/2008 07:19:44
Funny how the Herald rag won't allow comments on this story; or is it? Labour are skint and frightened of what will happen. I keep trying to find when the last sitting prime minister lost his seat.
17

LEAL,

25/06/2008 07:22:14
Again more proof that Labour are feart of the Scottish electorate.
I hear there may be a byelection before long somewhere else.Can anyone shed any light or is it just rumour?
18

Rodster,

Glasgow 25/06/2008 07:29:26
19 Leal
I remember during the 42 days debacle some commentator talking about some very ,very sick Scottish Labour MP being brought to Westminster to support tough man Brown , could be that poor unfortunate soul.
The lengths Brown will go to keep his job would make anyone sick
19

!Ya basta!,

25/06/2008 07:42:14
What the hell has poor Malawi done to deserve him I wonder.

Timing is everything btw. I don't support Labour but it is naive of you nats to expect labour not to try and get the timing right on this, especially with low overall ratings for labour and things so finely balanced at Holyrood.

I don't think you help your case with your ranting, simplistic and naive postings.

More effective and frankly, classy, if you concentrate on developing your campaign and bide your time for when it is called.
20

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 25/06/2008 07:54:13
Alex Salmond should resign on the same basis. Two pays? Why not let someone else have a go?
21

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25/06/2008 07:55:33
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22

Rodster,

Glasgow 25/06/2008 07:56:41
OOps well pardon us naughty Nats ,Yabasta , How dare we ask for the correct democratic option .
The man has a new job gifted to him by his bosses in Westminster , even they say he should be out of Holyrood preparing himself for the task ahead .
The people of Motherwell and Wishaw deserve a full time representative , the people of Malawi deserve a High Commissioner .
People like you are more interested in trying to save and maintain a busted flush in Labour , Scottish branch office than what is right and proper.
and in true Unionist fashion you come on here and blame the Nationalists for what is a purely Labour Party tactical decision to protect them and keep their noses in the trough.
They are petrified of the electorate, they know this their safest of safe seats just might be in danger , and they cannot rig the votes on this one ,or lose ballot papers , or have wonky machines to do the counting .
23

jacquesmac,

Lectoure 25/06/2008 08:09:40
In my Great Grandad's day my family always sent their genetic throwbacks, black sheep and the ASBO certificate holder off to the Colonies.

Great that this fine old tradition is being maintained by ZaNuLab; Australia, Malawi and wht is that sound?

Taxi For Lard Fowksake!
24

jacquesmac,

Lectoure 25/06/2008 08:15:05
If Gordy send Jack out now maybe he could osmose from Zimbabwe and Comrade Bob,how to fix, properly, a General Election.

It would be the only chance of ZaNuLab being re-elected.

Taxi for Brown, Browne, Alexander Twins, Straw, Hoon, etc etc etc
25

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 08:20:33
Jack McConnell and the Labour Party in Scotland is doing exactly what any Opposition party would do in the same circumstances.: delay the by-election as long as possible.

The Motherwell and Wishaw constituency is in the Labour heartlands and is probably unwinnable but it will be interesting to see how the polling goes when the by-election is called.

IF, the Nationalist honeymoon comes to an abrupt end then Labour's safe 6,000 majority could well be increased and that will be a huge setback for the Nationalists.

IF, like many by-elections the turnout is poor and the Nationalists somehow take the seat, which is a massive challenge, then Scottish politics will never be the same again!

It would have the same significance as Winnie Ewing's historic win at Hamilton in 1967!
26

Roy,

25/06/2008 08:21:02
Yeah, the people of Motherwell & Wishaw shouldn't have this continuing uncertainty about a representative who will see them through to 2011. Put it to the people. Bring it on.
27

jacquesmac,

Lectoure 25/06/2008 08:21:09
Upon reflection and bearing in ming my post No 26, If Mrs Broon did the right thing before he is foreced to do so by teh next Gereral Election, he could appoint his entire Cabinet and other hingers on to be High Commissioners throughout the former Empire.

Ok we nay have scrape down as far as Ascension Isle and Rockall but these would be good Golden Parachutes, nice little earners for the faithful.

Anyone out there care to match the political expelled with the various former Colonies.

Just one more we point, who would get the Falkland and all those sheep?
28

Roy,

25/06/2008 08:26:14
"The Lanarkshire seat has been safe Labour territory for decades and Mr McConnell won in 2007 with a majority of almost 6,000 over the SNP."

Maybe - but the SNP won its first parliamentary seat in a by-election here back in 1945.
29

walter,

25/06/2008 08:42:34
#24
The people of Malawi have a high commissioner his name is Richard Wildash.
The people of Motherwell and Wishaw have a full time representative his name is Jack McConnell.
The people of Banff & Buchan or Gordon on the other hand do not have the luxury of having a full time representative.
30

LEAL,

25/06/2008 08:49:20
Has anyone here seen the real GERS report yet?
31

Kick the pig party,

Wet & windy Stirling 25/06/2008 08:58:31
Has the NorthBritishman not bothered covering the Scotland Office's response to the Gould Report? There's a shock.

The Scottish Parliament voted in favour of Holyrood taking control over the elections and yet wee Father Cairns and his pal the Secretary of State soon to be the former MP for Kilmarnock & Louden ignore the key recomendations made by Gould.

How much longer do we need to put up with being treated like this?

Roll on the by-election. The pig party will get a kicking.
32

JayJay,

Right here 25/06/2008 09:33:47
Interesting that wee Wendy wants to "bring it on" when the question of a referendum is mooted, but seems to favour the "put it off" option as regards wee Jack's seat. Wonder why that is?
33

Edward,

25/06/2008 09:36:42
Jack McConnell will need to be in Malawi by November this year, which will let the current High Commissioner time to brief Jack and get Jack acclimatised to the post
This will give the current High Commissioner 3 months, before he departs. Or does Jack and the Labour party believe Jack McConnell can swan into the post?
Just to give an idea of what a typical career diplomat’s CV looks like, her is the CV for the current High Commssioner :
2002-2005 - Yaounde, High Commissioner to Cameroon and non- resident Ambassador to Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Chad and the Central African Republic.
1998-2001 - Kuala Lumpur, Deputy High Commissioner
1994-1998 - New Delhi, 1st Secretary (Internal)
1992-1994 - FCO: Eastern Department
1988-1992 - Harare, 1st Secretary (Chancery)
1987-1988 - FCO: Narcotics Control and AIDS Department
1984-1986 - FCO: UN Department
1981-1984 - Abidjan, 3rd Secretary (Commercial) & Vice-Consul
1979-1981 - East Berlin, 3rd Secretary (Chancery)
1977-1978 - FCO: European Community Department (External)

So well rounded and well grounded for the role of High Commissioner
Even well healed diplomats spend a couple of months getting familiar with new postings
and Jack McConnell’s background is what?
34

MisterN,

Scotland 25/06/2008 09:38:12
32

They have the First Minister of Scotland soon to be Prime Minister lucky them eh Walter? are you enjoying your council tax freeze?
35

Edward,

25/06/2008 09:43:28
#35 Kick the pig party
Yes funny that the Scotsman doesnt cover the story, which was on YESTERDAYS evening news that the Scotland office (or is it Scottish Office, suppose depends on which way you dress) have ignored the Gould report. This is the Gould investigation that the Scotland office commissioned to look into the mess that the Scotland office created last year. So the Scotland office want to maintain their death grip on Scottish parliamentary elections, ignoring there own commissioned report, so why did they bother if they were going to ignore the recomendations anyway!
So I wonder what Browne and Cairns will do when they get kicked out by the electorate in the next 24 months?
36

!Ya basta!,

25/06/2008 10:12:19
#24 Roadster. Just sayin you can call all you like but the political reality is that he wont go until they are ready so why waste your energy, better to be more prodcutive and not appear quite so zealous - which also unecessarily puts a lot of people off your party.
37

Geoff,

sa 25/06/2008 10:12:19
16Rodster-comparisons with Zim and Mugabe are not valid at all. Labour(and ALL other political parties in Britain) are capable of and willing to manipulate events WITHIN the law to suit their political agendas. Labour at all costs must avoid by-elections at this stage simply because they are at a low ebb and the SNP are riding high. Alex Salmond would do the same if situations were reversed.
38

Sanny,

25/06/2008 10:14:43
4 SlyFifer
The party you wish already exists, albeit in embryonic form. It is the ESP (Scottish Enterprise Party) they would seem to meet all your criteria.

17 Jimmy the Pie
Quote “Time to start the campaign I think”. Could not agree more. What are the odd on Labour winning this ultra safe seat? Will the London Centric Party spend any money on a campaign in Scotland? Or will the save their pennies for the English Elections.

22 Rulesbutnotrulers
Don’t you think you have played this one to death. The question has been answered repeatedly but you seem to have problems with comprehending the written word. Had Brown had the bottle to hold the election as he had indicated then your problem would have been resolved. Of course Mr. Brown can call an election anytime he wishes and AS will not stand for Westminster. As the dear lady says “Bring It On"!!


39

Richard Lionheart,

25/06/2008 10:16:20
The loss of the seat to the Snats would also put G Brown's "leadership" under more pressure. The prospect of a Labour Free Scotland looms!

People of Motherwell and Wishaw, your Country needs YOU! To vote SNP.
40

Geoff,

sa 25/06/2008 10:19:07
30 JacquesMac-on a point of order UK overseas territories have Governors,former colonies that still have the Queen as head of state have Governors General. High commisioners are the Commonwealth equivalent of Ambassadors.
41

MisterN,

Scotland 25/06/2008 10:35:22
39

And if they cant manipulate events within the law they change it so they can. Only difference between New Labour and the Zanu PF is one of subtlety.
42

Rasco,

Inverness 25/06/2008 10:37:46
We Jack steps down gives Lab a problem on who they will put up in hi place HAMISH MACDONELL OR DOUGLAS FRASER take your pick or is there anyone else Pia.
43

MisterN,

Scotland 25/06/2008 10:38:32
20

Like who? there are no federal leaders in the Scottish parliament only unionist or nationalist so which leader would you like to see take over?
44

Neil,

Glasgow 25/06/2008 10:53:38
Jack's qualification is that he gave a fair bit of our money to the place, of which it turned out, an even higher proportion than with most aid didn't get to the people.

PS I would think going from deputy in Malaysia to boss in Malawi would be a bit of a come down.
45

jacquesmac,

Lectoure 25/06/2008 11:12:56
No 32

Yes I have it and you can download for the cottish Government website.

It is a pdf file about 80+ pages.

Go to the site and type in GERS. You will nees a pdf reader such as Adobe Acrobat, which is free and maybe also via the same website
46

Proud2Be,

Perth 25/06/2008 11:17:25
#3 SlyFifer and any others interested

There was a centre-right independence party called the SEP - Scottish Enterprise Party, which stood in the 2007 elections but only recieved 1025 votes.

Its website appears to have now lapsed. When I fist encountered there website it was loaded with detailed and workable centre right policies so I can only lament there apparent disappearance.
47

AJ Fife,

25/06/2008 11:43:26
I'll be sorry tae see wee jack go. He's been a great friend to the SNP cause!
48

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 11:59:55
Go on Jack "BRING IT ON" huh, this will be the maybe eyes maybe naws bi election . Remember its the backtracking election labour party..

And for the SNP holding back the referendum?? What about Labour calling off the idea of a general election coz broon was doon in the polls..fecking hyprocrits
49

kimba,

25/06/2008 12:22:27
50. spook: brown was down in the poll’s lol,but he also hadn’t been in power long enough for him to prove himself or so he thought,it was only the young turk's in his party who wanted early election,delaying let cameron make mincemeat of labour anyway.
50

Shredder,

25/06/2008 12:25:43
#26 Todd writes: “The Motherwell and Wishaw constituency is in the Labour heartlands and is probably unwinnable but it will be interesting to see how the polling goes when the by-election is called.”
51

Shredder,

25/06/2008 12:27:44
#26 Todd writes: “The Motherwell and Wishaw constituency is in the Labour heartlands and is probably unwinnable but it will be interesting to see how the polling goes when the by-election is called.”

I would agree if this weren’t a by-election. Are you deliberatly trying to talk the Nats down or are you worried about the reception which poll tax 2 will receive in a constituency of this type?
52

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 12:30:15
#51 kimba..

Long time no see, how are you chick ( ? )..Anyway moving very swiftly on.. I think Broon is still down in the polls with the Cons on 45%..Hey Kimba it was broon that put out the elections feelers and when the polls did not look favourable for him he did a u turn that would make any bend in the Monaco Grand prix seem very straight..
53

Arfur,

25/06/2008 12:39:34
bye bye another Liebour seat.
54

kimba,

25/06/2008 12:41:04
54. spook: brown says he wouldn’t have held election anyway even if he hadn’t been down in the polls. I believe him,he finally realised he’d look silly holding election so soon after taking power,fancy a break in monaco,lol? Don’t mean break literaly by the way,i'd be gentle
55

Saruman,

25/06/2008 12:47:34
The Nats must be the firm favourites for Jack’s seat in the current political climate and we’ll never hear the end of it if they crush “unionist” "New Liebour" etc etc and talk themselves into believing that the SNP’s eclectic mixture of left and right has really struck a chord with the non Tartan Tory country toffs out there.

As the parliament is relatively new, they’re still c*ck a hoop that their party has finally sniffed a modicum of success (even if it’s only part of the inevitable political cycle of any elected body and doesn’t appear to be advancing their separation agenda one iota). Sad or what?
56

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 12:52:06
#56

Come on kimba,broon looked silly even when he was chancellor, what with that big bottom jaw dive bombing after every sentence.!! Oooer i say, Kimba & Spook in Monaco together ? Man my button has just popped of my Levi,s Capital E jeans..
57

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 12:53:23
#57

Can you fix buttons ? are you handy with a needle and thread ?
58

Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 25/06/2008 12:59:01
#3, #40, #48. The Scottish Enterprise Party (SEP) has not actually lapsed, but is in a state of suspended animation at the moment. In the first place, anyone with a sense of responsibility can see that nothing must be done to undermine the stability of the SNP government in the immediate future. Its position is still too precarious, and Scotland's whole future depends on it.

In the second place, anybody with an eye to the medium and long-term future must see that the SNP will have to be supplemented by a second purely Scottish party to fill the increasing vacuum on the centre-right of the political spectrum. The three London parties are already brain-dead, and on present trends their life-support is going to be unplugged at the next election. That comes from trying to swim against the tide of an unstoppable trend, and from a failure to identify and analyse what is actually going on around them.

We sometimes forget that the SNP has been in existence for the better part of a century, and it too is carrying quite a lot of lumber from its past - e.g. its policy on Europe. Sooner or later it will go over the top, like every party, and a genuinely new broom will be urgently required to supplement and if necessary replace it. The Scottish Enterprise Party is not just an impressive name; it is exactly the right idea at the right time, but if it is to be realised as a medium-term project it will need a far broader range of support, and especially prominent support. The potential is there.

59

Saruman,

25/06/2008 13:01:28
Sorry old fellow but property’s my line, not hosiery. Have you got that picture kimba once sent you to hand?
60

AJ Fife,

25/06/2008 13:02:35
Monaco???

I'd wager the principality have set rules for who they allow in. Kimba might fail on a couple of different counts, plus I'm not sure if BA use a jumbo jet on that route!
61

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 13:15:49
#60

The Scottish Enterprise Party like most other small parties come and go. They should seek a meeting bute house with the FM and put forward any ideas to him. He is a man of ears..

#61...Agrr, naws it was not me that was sent that pic,dam the thing that made my button popped has just wilted..
62

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 13:17:56
I off to the Gym, i might see a rolly polly or kimba!!

63

AJ Fife,

25/06/2008 13:20:06
#63,

It was a poster called magic Hoops who recieved the picture. He disappeared soon after....
64

Daveunderwater,

25/06/2008 14:13:08
# 57

With regard to political cycles pertaining to Scotland, will we see the SNP at the helm for the next 20 years?
65

Brianwci,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 14:15:09
Following this Westminster Committee's 'nudge' a by-election now seems likely in J M's Motherwell and Wishaw seat, not a prospect labour will welcome at this stage.

However, as No 26 Mr Lachie Todd said in his very good post, an SNP win is by no means guaranteed. Despite unprecedented SNP pre election poll results last May, it's clear the labour vote held up in most of its heartlands, including Motherwell.

Labour could turn this mini disaster of a looming by-election to their advantage by not only winning it but by increasing their majority.

This potentially historic by-election is going to take on all the razmataz of the by-elections of old from Hamilton through West Lothian and Dundee East to Govan with workers flooding in from all over the country.

Hark, do I hear Wendy's battlecry? Bring it on!! Sounds more like Alex to me....

Brian Hill
66

Saruman,

25/06/2008 14:24:55
#66: I’m no Nat but, even looking objectively at the situation, I just can’t see the Nats retaining power for as long as 20 years.

The simple reason for this is that, aside from their separation agenda, I just don’t see the SNP establishing a niche for its other policies. The party has produced a mishmash of policies which can only appeal to both traditional Labour heartlands and their own more affluent heartlands for so long. The edifice just has to unravel sooner or later.
67

JohnMcDonald,

London 25/06/2008 14:30:04
While the SNP might not win the seat in a by-election the idea that Labour might increase its majority, winning a massive victory saving Wendy Alexander and, hey why not, Gordon Brown is just plain loony land stuff.

And the Labour Party accuses the SNP of being a bunch of dreamers. Aye, right.

68

ThomasP,

25/06/2008 14:40:22
Very interesting.

We shall now witness Labour and SNP go head-to-head and will witness which Party comes out top superior.
69

Shredder,

25/06/2008 14:55:20
#70 ThomasP: any kind of a victory for Labour really will mean that the Nats’ bubble is finally beginning to burst. For heaven's sake, Labour nationally are one at pretty well their lowest level of support since polling began!
70

Brianwci,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 14:58:30
John 69. You obviously haven't been around many political campaigns. From where I am sitting the SNP will need a monumental effort to win this seat.

I think we will do it but the most likely scenario is an SNP victory with a majority under 1000.

As ThomasP says, we will now see Labour and the SNP go head to head and I say, this will be a battle like no other, the stakes are so high.

Brian Hill
71

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 25/06/2008 15:03:16
At the rate his Lord and Master is going, Jock might be able to stay in Scotland to look after the poor and malnourished, freezing occupants living in their decaying houses and have someone from Malawi here as a High Commissioner to offer advice to Motherwell and Wishaw. Maybe a dentist or two and some Red Cross parcels.

But it still won't stop the electorate throwing this lot out on their tails.
72

Ananurhing,

25/06/2008 15:12:28
#71 Shredder

I think that Labour support just got a bit lower.
Wendy's career is the car crash that just keeps giving.


http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Donations-row-Wendy-Alexander-39broke.4221880.jp
73

Jockie of Gleaasp,

25/06/2008 15:15:25
After calling his constituency a coup Wee Joke is on tae plums. But the people of his constituency are notorious for there lack of spine and for voting for pigs with red rosettes.

"He added: "The town centre here in Wishaw has never been properly thought through for the last 20 years. That town centre in Motherwell is a pigsty. It's dirty, it's untidy, it's ... bad planning decisions, bad architectural decisions, and it needs radical surgery."



http://tinyurl.com/4vmgxj
74

JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 15:19:43
Bring it on!
75

Shredder,

25/06/2008 15:28:56
#74 Ananurhing: I just love that expression “the car crash that just keeps giving”: reminds me of my relationship with one of my exes (a favourite topic of mine when I have a few hours to spare in the pub!) Anyway, I’ve read the article and see nothing new in it: Wendy was dropped in it by the parliamentary clerks and there was no intentional wrongdoing.

I really don’t get the impression that it’s Wendy’s travails that are responsible for Labour’s dip in Scotland: only you Nats imagine this. In reality, the problem lies with the national unpopularity of Brown and the fact that the Nats have finally found a leader who (on opinion poll evidence at least) appears to have mass popular appeal.
76

Miss H,

25/06/2008 15:49:28
77 You are either naive or at it.

The parliamentary clerks did not drop her in it. They answered the question she asked. She asked if anybody else had declared donations made in the course of a leadership campaign - to which the answer was no.

That does not mean that the parliamentary clerks advised her she did not have to declare it.

It's absolutely typical of the Labour mindset to try and spin it that way however.
77

ThomasP,

25/06/2008 16:02:40
71 Shredder.

If Labour do win then what would be a slap across the face for the Nats.

But quite impossible for the Nats to loose. There more popular then ever and the Scots are quite annoyed that Scottish Labour always put their party first then those they represent.
78

Shredder,

25/06/2008 16:11:05
#78 Miss H: this all sounds extremely Delphic. In the real world, the parliamentary clerks would surmise the purpose behind Wendy’s question (and, indeed, they were surely duty bound to do so). I just don’t see how I’m either “naïve or at it”.
79

Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 25/06/2008 16:21:33
It would be very interesting indeed to see how much real support Labour or the SNP have in the traditional labour heartlands.

I am not a fool who believes the SNP will not make mistakes in policy but at this point in time they offer the best hope of a Scottish Government who consider Scotland to be the most important part of their job.

I look forward to a time when we have multiple parties in Scotland who care about Scotland not just London led poodles who take their instructions based on what is best for the whole UK which often does not help Scotland.

80

Ananurhing,

25/06/2008 17:00:16
#80 Shredder

I think you'll find Miss H is correct. It seems to be a habit of Wendy's, not knowing the right question to ask.

Wendy was also " at it", and had the " utmost faith" she could do so with impunity. It's an old new labour tradition.
81

Hamish Scott,

25/06/2008 17:01:19
Another case of Westminster picking fights with Holyrood?
82

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 25/06/2008 17:14:19
Typical newliebore. Blame the officials. I suppose it's their fault she asked them the question she did and then got found out for bending the rules. It's their fault they didn't give her the correct answer to a different question that she never answered then.

I wish she would just own up, and take responsibility for her actions. Nae danger of that tho. Still, Joke McConnells bye bye election should be fun, let's hope the locals treat it as a "referendum" on bendywendy, the kermitchops frog moothed wee numptie that she is, and punt her.

Bring it on alright.
83

The Spook in Leith,

25/06/2008 17:42:38
BRING IT ON JACK, YOU BIG TEFAL SPAM HEAD
84

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 25/06/2008 18:29:10
Not so much a by-election as a bye-bye election!
85

HEN BROON 5,

ALBA being held back by the UK 25/06/2008 22:17:22
#87. As this forum descends even deeper into the gutter what a pathetic shower you could teach the Chinese a thing or two.
86

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 25/06/2008 22:37:42
Wendy Alexander of Byres Road is guilty of criminal activity. She must go tomorrow!
87

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25/06/2008 22:37:43
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Reason:
88

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 25/06/2008 22:39:07
How do you mean, #88 ? Bob's right. the story got posted, comments were made, then the whole thread removed. Why not just delete threads felt libellous ? What about free speech ?
89

Schot,

25/06/2008 23:07:37
Wendy and Dougie Alexander do make me doubt the case for independence. The fact any Scots vote for numpties like these makes me doubt my nation.

McConnell was the best wee numpty but I think he meant well, and I don't pity Malawi his time. More Scots should try to build links with Africa.
90

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 25/06/2008 23:16:06
#92

Only 33% of all voters (17.5% of all eligible to vote, given there was a 50% turnout) supported wee wendy's party at holyrood. They are much the minority

I think in their individual constituencies less than 30,000 people voted for either.

A max of 60k people voted for the cuppleaenumpties. Not bad out of circa 5million; many more voted boris for mayor of london for example.

It just proves there's a few daftie scots. Check out AM2, Highland Mighty, et al.
91

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 25/06/2008 23:53:58
Noticed like others that the Wendy story has had the comments (mine was one) pulled and comments disallowed. Quick synopsis - sanctions applied or otherwise - try "or otherwise".
92

mandyv,

banitland 26/06/2008 01:09:24
I would have thought they have enough problems and poisonous creatures over there, without sending any more.
93

Traquir , Alba,

26/06/2008 07:22:14
From McConnell :

"There will be absolutely no time when I'm still a member of the Scottish Parliament and High Commissioner in Malawi.

"There will also be no time, I'm sure, when Malawi's without a High Commissioner."

So given that the High Commissioner is
leaving in Feb 2009
and McConnell has absolutely no experience for
this honor being bestowed on him, surely he has got
to start working ASAP on the Dummy's guide to
becoming a High Commissioner.
If resigns right now that only gives him
7-8 months to become a High Commissioner.
If he has any respect for the people in Malawi the
least he could do is resign immediately.

Of course perhaps there is another agenda here
and Jack is still trying to trade in his consolation
Honours prize for the real thing that drives all
of the craven Labour sycophants namely
a Peerage. This of course is the real Union Dividend
which is why Labour will defend the Union to the death.

"McConnell angry over peerage delay "
see - tinyurl.com/6gll9j

 

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