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I'll be the pensioners' champion, says Cathy Jamieson



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Published Date: 09 August 2008
By Hamish Macdonell
SCOTTISH Labour leadership contender Cathy Jamieson promised the party would have a "pensioners' champion" if she succeeds Wendy Alexander.
The former justice minister accused the SNP of having a "don't care" attitude to pensioners and said she would make sure their views were heard.

She said: "Services for older people are either being cut or charges have increased.

"Pensioners ha
ve paid into the pot all their lives and they deserve a fair deal when they retire. It's not enough for Alex Salmond to complain about Westminster when it is his government that is making the cuts." And she promised: "Scottish Labour led by me will have a pensioners' champion and we will ensure that the views and needs of Scotland's pensioners run through our policies."

Ms Jamieson is fighting the former health minister Andy Kerr and ex-enterprise minister Iain Gray to become the Labour's Scottish Parliament leader.

Yesterday Mr Gray announced he had the backing of Aberdeen North MP Frank Doran.

Mr Doran said that because the East Lothian MSP had worked as a minister and also had experience of Westminster – where he worked as an adviser to the Scotland Office – he was the best candidate for the job.

Mr Gray is well ahead in the three-horse race to get support from Labour's elected members, with 13 backers in the party's group at Holyrood, as well as both of Labour's Scottish MEPs.

He has the backing of MPs Russell Brown, Brian Donohoe, Eric Joyce, Thomas McAvoy, Rosemary McKenna and John Robertson, as well as Mr Doran.



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  • Last Updated: 08 August 2008 11:43 PM
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1

Coileach an taobh Tuath,

09/08/2008 00:04:32

Not by championing Council Tax you won'tt
2

ptdoug,

09/08/2008 00:04:42
"I'll be the pensioners' champion", says Cathy Jamieson

That's nice.

3

Coileach an taobh Tuath,

09/08/2008 00:06:36

Gray has the support of Brian Donohoe MP, he who tries to fleece honest tradesmen

Cathy is still in New Labour Mode.... Quango's and Zsar;'s....

Haven't we heard all this before

4

person who's right,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 00:06:57
I'm not wholly convinced by the Local Income Tax idea, but the one thing that's for sure is that it will benefit a vast number of pensioners (who tend to be asset-rich and income-poor). So quite how Wurr Cathy can claim the SNP offers nothing to pensioners is (yet another) mystery of the ever-more-bizarre Labour Party in Scotland.
5

ptdoug,

09/08/2008 00:09:24
It's just amazing that a candidate for the leadership of Labour in Scotland should feel that she has to spell that out.

Maybe that's because Labour have, up till now, totaly ignored the plight of our pensioners.

And is she going to relieve them of the monsterous burden placed upon them by Labours favoured Council Tax.....or will she support the SNP plans for a L.I.T. that pensioners would not have to pay???

We all know the answer to that.

Pensioners champion indeed.
6

karinxxx,

09/08/2008 00:09:52
3... lol

I thought he was a bit tight for a labour MP as well. Maybe he was trying to keep his expenses down.............

ooo look a flying pig
7

karinxxx,

09/08/2008 00:10:59
4...........
have you checked out the glasgow council website that tells you how much lit you would pay?
8

Sanny,

Glasgow 09/08/2008 00:11:39
As a Pensioner Cathy I would rather pass on the offer. Thankfully the SNP are already on the job and doing just fine. I think you and your Labour cronies can go back to fiddling your expenses for a wee while until we have the opportunity to give you and your lot your P45's.
9

Rasco,

Inverness 09/08/2008 00:13:05
Cathy will you get your friend Broon to pay me a pension in line with average wage as he promised, I'll be better off when the council tax is gone will you vote for that.
10

crepes84,

Ayr 09/08/2008 00:33:30
What a boost to Mr Gray to have the backing of that palooka Donohoe! Parasitic and useless, but aims to get his picture and name in the paper at every opportunity. He appears to spend his time posing with B list celebrities with that stupid grin although he is always 'here to help'!
11

karinxxx,

09/08/2008 00:40:53
everytime i read about cathy jamieson i just cant get that picture of her with the wee ned in the background out of my head.....

you remember this one?

http://www.kasino.co.uk/gary/170205njamieson_lg.jpg
12

subrosa,

09/08/2008 00:46:58
I'll be the pensioners' champion, says Cathy Jamieson

Aye and I'll be Flora MacDonald.
13

Vivas,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 01:00:27
And I am Sparticus ;-)
14

Guga II,

Rockall 09/08/2008 01:07:29
I'm Spartacus.
15

karinxxx,

09/08/2008 01:08:42
no im spartacus...............
16

Oldnat,

09/08/2008 01:12:37
I'm a pensioner. Will Cathy or Brian Donohoe help me get my freezer repaired?
17

Jwil,

09/08/2008 01:12:48
Give us a break Cathy! Bottom of the barrel stuff.

Signed: a pensioner.

18

Vivas,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 01:22:23
So Curran would have stood up for the east-end.
And Jamieson will stand up for the pensioners.

Stand up against who ? The logic of their argument is indisputable. It can only be against Gordon Thatcher and the current Labservative government,happy to bail out broken banks and turn a blind eye to outrageous energy profits.

Now if they could just name and denounce the true enemies of the east-end and penioners...eh their own party ... then we'd all start to get along a bit better.

Fat chance !

19

Longdirk Maceth,

NZ 09/08/2008 01:27:13
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20

overshot,

perth 09/08/2008 01:55:58
The pensioners champion, if she succeeds Wendy, and if she does not,too bad auld yins. tell her we dont need a champion we have already got one,unconditionally. The SNP will look after all of Scotland, because they accept that as they're duty.
21

somerferg,

perth 09/08/2008 02:24:34
You have to admit the check out chick has a great sense of humour. Can it be true that senior citz in Scotland would be niave enough to believe that tornado bait like Jamieson and the other red rosette wearing monkeys will be their best 'pals' when these numpties have done nothing for pensioners or anyone else in Scotland (apart from themselves) over the last 50 odd years. Doubt it very much - sorry Jamieson you've been rumbled!!
22

Pocket Dictionary,

09/08/2008 04:36:57
Hail the advent of St Cathy of Jamieson. A true saint who forgives erring relatives on their death-beds. And a saviour of the impoverished elderly.

All you doubting Thomas's (and Thomasina's) out there, say 3 Hell Cathy's for your unbelief.
23

democracy,

Scottish Borders 09/08/2008 06:29:11
Yeah! right Cathy, you can change a habit of ten years and become a champion for pensioners, when you have something to gain from it. Why did you not do it before??
Like someone said earlier, No thanks Cathy, I'll pass on that offer, the SNP are already on the job and doing just fine, thank you very much!!!
24

donald,

glasgow 09/08/2008 06:32:18
Labour MP going to champion ? Is there an election oan or something?
25

calum,

09/08/2008 06:37:01
So having been Meenister for Weans and failed, Meenister for ra Polis and failed you now want to be Ra Champion for Wrinklies? You have some nerve, lassie.
26

Colkitto,

River Clyde 09/08/2008 07:37:09
Labour, predictable as usual. "I'll be the pensioners champion" "I'll be the kids champion" "I'll be the workers champion" Pity you couldn't do that when you were in government !
They have said all this before, and nobody is falling for it anymore
27

MacGillicuddy,

09/08/2008 08:07:13
A bit rich coming from anybody connected with Liebour.
Liebour is the ONE party to have done sfa for pensioners.
28

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 08:12:33
Cathy Jamieson does have a point the snp seem to be a home for young extremists who couldn't give a t#ss about older people.
29

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 08:20:45
still Cathy Jamieson doesn't carry a AK-47 like very de rigueur for snp politicos these days..

http://www.illustrationsof.com/images/clipart/thumbnail2/9759_mexican_bandit_with_a_gun.jpg
30

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 08:25:28
What is she going to do in opposition that she could not have done in the eight years she was in government ?
As pensioners our council tax went up every year under Labour, one year of SNP and it is fixed for three years !
31

Linda,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 08:27:18
What is the difference between firing a Kalashnikov and Gordon Brown with Machine Gun in army helicopter, Maggie Thatcher in a tank or Tories on their annual 12th August bird shoot.

32

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 09/08/2008 08:45:06

Linda, at 08:27:18,

Not much difference at all. Though I do think that Brown is in the worst position as it is he who is glorifying an ILLEGAL WAR by his actions.

33

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 09/08/2008 08:47:48
Cathy, I want you to listen very very very carefully.

Awa' o'er tae Threshers for yer cerry oot.
34

Linda,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 08:52:04
UK pays one of worst pensions in Western Europe.

Labour doubles tax rate for lowest income taxpayers (including many pensioners and students) from 10p to 20p .
Labour MSPs all oppose local income tax which would make 80% pf pensioners better or no worse off.

Labour pensioners champion.. don't make me laugh
35

BIG EYE,

Paisley 09/08/2008 09:00:52
Cathy as the pensioners champion?

We can't do that to them, they have surely suffered enough with Brown raiding their pensions and the Labour Party putting about 60% on the Council tax before the SNP stepped in and froze it.

Pensioners are a vulnerable group in society and they should be protected from Cathy and the rest of the Labour Party.

Lock her up if necessary but keep her away from Scotlaand's old folk
36

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 09:17:08
#32

snp supporter would say that......

#35
why not use the money via the tax freeze the snp have given to the rich (very very rich) in scottish society to benefit pensioners.

37

Jimmy Le Pie,

09/08/2008 09:23:06
Niko

Have you any thoughts on Comrade Broon's pension theft??

You are capable of thought?
38

Coileach an taobh Tuath,

09/08/2008 09:32:32
Niko

Your not making any sense......

Your either for or against LIT., a tax which benefits those on low incomes because it's base don their ability to pay not on the value of their house.

Now which is it?

Are you coming around to Gray's property tax?

Property Tax will be at least 1% of the market Value of your House.

i.e. £100000 House = You'll pay £1000

The average House Price in Scotland is £150,000



What exactly are Labour's proposals to help pensioners?



39

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09/08/2008 09:43:02
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 09/08/2008 09:51:02
As a candidate for Leader of Scottish MSPs surely she has a broader remit than just pensioners?!

However I'm sure pensioners would be glad to get shot of the lot of them and then they might stand a chance of being treated fairly and equitably rather than just voting fodder in sink estates.
41

LEAL,

09/08/2008 09:52:28
Cathy Jamieson is pro-London,and therefore anti-Scottish.
42

brownlie,

09/08/2008 10:09:34
30 Nikostratos

Please explain your contention that it is customary for SNP Politicos to carry AK48s or admit that it was an incredibly stupid comment?

From a sweeping statement like that would it be logical to assume that all Labour politicians are arsonists or assault old ladies?
43

Senga Jean,

09/08/2008 10:28:02
#43 or all tories drove around in tanks like Maggie or like all Lib/dems......sorry cannot say it before 9 pm.
44

the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 09/08/2008 10:29:28
To be honest , if I was on holiday and someone offered me a chance to fire a few rounds legally and safely , I would take them up on it.

Would that immediately make me an international terrorist suspect ?

As for Cathy....to quote Dads' army "We're doomed, doomed I tell ye". With her as a champion, pensioners might as well give up all hope now.
45

roughrider,

Glasgow 09/08/2008 10:29:44
Jamieson is a joke. Caffy doll what would you do for pensioners can you spell it out or as we all know this is just more liebour mince spewing out of your gob.
For Caffy,kerrplonk or grey gray to be leader of anything is laughable, it shows what a complete utter shambles that the liebour mob have put themselves in.
The three unwise monkeys.
46

roughrider,

Glasgow 09/08/2008 10:34:34
I should say Dumb,dumber and dumberer.
In any order.
47

Vivas,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 10:48:15
So:

Jamieson will be the pensioners champion.
Kerr will be the childcare kiddies/mums champion.

That leaves Gray with whatevers left in the middle. So rejoice all dull depressed gray-haired middle aged men, your champion awaits. And with initiatives like subsidised anti-perspirants, Gray as a fellow heavy-sweater feels your pain. Banish those sweaty shirts forever, Vote for Gray...
48

Darien,

Panama 09/08/2008 10:58:38
Cathy...yawn...."Let me say this very clearly clearly clearly".....Jamieson... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Roll on the next election when the voters in her and other New Lab constituencies have a chance to apologies to the rest of us properly - by voting her and her kind out for good.
49

ptdoug,

09/08/2008 11:00:18
"I'll be the soundbite champion", says Kathy Jamieson
50

"Hoots" Fandango,

09/08/2008 11:45:19
I'll be Champion the wonder horse.
51

Rufus T. Firefly,

09/08/2008 11:48:43
Is there a vacancy for post of pensioner's champion?

I thought this was Alex Salmond's job.

He treated it so seriously that he even married one.
52

GM,

09/08/2008 11:49:44
In case anyone has to check, given that no mention is made that Brian Donohoe is a Labour MP ----

Here is his recent voting record -


Voted very strongly against a transparent Parliament.
Voted moderately for introducing a smoking ban.
Voted moderately for introducing ID cards.
Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals.
Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees.
Voted strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws.
Voted moderately for the Iraq war.
Voted strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war.
Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.
Voted strongly for the hunting ban.
Voted moderately for equal gay rights.
Voted very strongly against electricians being paid for work they carry out.
53

"Hoots" Fandango,

09/08/2008 11:52:55
Rufus

Tsk tsk tsk. Ageist remark.
54

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09/08/2008 12:02:31
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55

JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 09/08/2008 12:10:10
Good to see that Labour are still continuing their tradition of PROMISES, PROMISES and yet more PROMISES.

What have they actually DELIVERED in the past 11 years?

Nothing good, that's for sure.
56

Rufus T. Firefly,

09/08/2008 12:11:59
#55 HaHa
57

Rufus T. Firefly,

09/08/2008 12:13:48
#53 GM - Big Deal.

Whats your point?

The last point is truly shocking however!
58

GM,

09/08/2008 12:31:52
@58

point?
Hootsman seems to have forgotten to mention in the article what party he represents...

I thought I'd keep them 'current, although no mention is also made of his sexual orientation ('ac/dc') or his 'capacity' for rationale thought. Theres a whole 'battery' of other evidence, but I decided to 'short circuit' the story and 'power' straight to the detail.
59

"Hoots" Fandango,

09/08/2008 12:39:06
59

This article is just a "plug" for Jamieson.
I haven't seen it on any other news "wire."
This paper is hardly "neutral."
It isn't even down to "earth."
I'm con"fused".
Off now for a wee "trip".
The election for a new labour leader will be full of "high tension."

60

"Hoots" Fandango,

09/08/2008 12:39:38
I think I need to get out more.
61

"Hoots" Fandango,

09/08/2008 12:40:13
The party is in "terminal" decline.
62

Vivas,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 13:12:30
Hamish is backing Cathy
Maddox is backing Gray

Which Northbritishman journo drew super-size Kerr in the sweepstake of who to plug ?
63

Vivas,

Edinburgh 09/08/2008 13:21:00
Cathy drowning in the council-tax over 9 minutes of Newsnight on-air destruction by Brewer in April last year.

tinyurl.com/6qhczn
64

GM,

09/08/2008 13:29:29
@62

maybe Cathy could 'spur' them into action after getting another 'plug' in the Hootsman? She certainly apears 'sparky' enough.

There could be a bit of 'resistance' from the SNP though.

Whatever cathy does, she always has to 'ring main' party headquarters first for advice...


badum-tish
I thankyou
65

"Hoots" Fandango,

09/08/2008 13:34:23
65

Perhaps we should "pylon" the pressure. It's us or "therm."
66

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 13:50:32
"And she promised: "Scottish Labour led by me will have a pensioners' champion and we will ensure that the views and needs of Scotland's pensioners run through our policies."".

Same sh*t, different day !
67

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 13:53:59
#11 Karin

the only wee ned I can see is in the foreground speaking to a furry mic !
68

chico y,

09/08/2008 13:58:53
How dare she accuse the SNP of having a "don't care" attitude about pensioners when it is Brown that is harming them at every turn. These liebour politicians are unbelievable. This is like Gray the other day trying to blame the effects of the economic downturn in the UK on the the SNP.
These liebour candidates are doing for their party what "the joker" did for clowns.
69

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 13:59:09
I just hope she will do something about Vehicle Excise Duties and the scrapping of the 10p rate of income tax, both of which will hit any pensioner who has the audacity to own a relatively new car and is still in gainful employment.

Don't get me started on Council Tax (reformed or otherwise!).

Cathy, understand this! Pensioners are unlikely to be taken in yet again by your empty promises and weasly words!
70

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 14:03:57
Just remind me which party it was that destroyed occupational pensions in the UK. This has consigned a vast number of pensioners to relative poverty.

Anyone remember Broon generously giving pensioners a 65p rise in their pensions some years back?
71

Jwil,

09/08/2008 14:12:02
Did she get her new policy free with a packet of corn flakes?
72

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 14:22:33
This was surely very ill-advised of Cathy. Why choose this as your battleground when London Labour single-handedly destroyed final salary pensions? Why say this Cathy? -

"Pensioners have paid into the pot all their lives and they deserve a fair deal when they retire."

Which brings us full circle with a finger pointing at our beloved Prime Minister, erstwhile Chancellor, Gordon Thatcher Bean Brown......................
73

Paula,

09/08/2008 14:27:37
After all those years where they had the chance to do something only *now* do they come up with any ideas.

Labour really haven't got much of a grasp of reality.
74

roughrider,

Glasgow 09/08/2008 15:00:41
74
The problem with liebour is they have no ideas only empty meaningless soundbites and of course the usual anti SNP dross they spit out at every opportunity.
Labour have nothing to offer they are going down the pan where they belong.
75

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 09/08/2008 16:17:04
First we had the Cathy story about her forgiving her nephew on his death-bed, (which only the most cynical would have any doubts about), and now this heartwarming, 'I'll be the pensioners champion bit', who's coming up with this stuff for her, the Marx Brothers?

Mind you as a Nat it is great to see Labour folk, especially at the top end of the party still coming out with the same old rubbish............keep up the good work folks.
76

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 16:26:26
So dear nat drones extremist apologists et.etc what are the snp doing to guarantee peoples pensions paid to a unionist U.K..If scotland becomes Independent and don't even mention Oil.
77

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 16:40:25
ref AK-47 snp politician

Stuart Crawford, a former senior army officer and military expert,said it was not uncommon for the Pakistani authorities to invite guests to shoot Kalashnikovs in that area, adding he had been taken there himself to do exactly that. He added: "It's like the Wild West out there. Everybody has a gun."

Lanark businessman Robert Durward has confirmed he is the Scot who has led a group of a dozen founding members of the party. His main spokesman and adviser in Scotland is a former army lieutenant- colonel, Stuart Crawford. He was a candidate and defence strategist for the Scottish National Party, who gained notoriety by arguing that an independent Scotland could replace nuclear weapons with chemical and biological ones.

30119/ai_n9627236+Colonel+Stuart+Crawford,+Parliamentary+candidate&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk
78

Suomi,

Salo,Finland 09/08/2008 16:52:54
I rather think that the SNP has already captured the ground claimed by Cathie.I wonder why Labour did not prioritise the needs of pensioners before the SNP defeated them in the last election for the Scottish Parliament?
79

Oldnat,

09/08/2008 16:54:04
The Herald also carried the Donohoe story (but not on-line, and again not identifying his party). It also carried this additional info from the electrician who saw that "the system was old and the circuit breakers were rusty and difficult to move. I told Mr Donohoe his fuse board was dangerous and there was no pont in continuing as it would need replaced. I advised him to get his appliances tested."

The political analogies are obvious.
80

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 17:10:16
#77 Niko

You are behaving a bit randomly today. Going off-topic a lot.

As for pensions, the question should be directed at one Gordon Brown, Prime Minister.
81

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/08/2008 17:12:07
#79 suomi

I agree. I guess all they have left in their campaign toolbox is to keep pressing home their concern for pensioners and vulnerable two-year-olds.

In any case, their protestations sound extremely hollow!
82

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 17:43:31
#81 connaughtboy,

snp not got an answer then......lots are wanting one could be a vote breaker/maker


# suomi

zzzzzzz
83

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 18:27:20
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article4488909.ece


RBS is fine, says Salmond after first loss

The Scottish First Minister, a former RBS employee,


says a lot really ........
84

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 18:42:43
dont be old

dont be sick

dont be poor

in a snp Scotland..........
85

brownlie,

09/08/2008 18:44:43
84 Nikostratos

"says a lot really...."

So do you and, unfortunately, it does not make any sense or interesting reading.

83 Nikostratos

It would appear that the SNP do have an answer. I believe they call it independence.
86

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 18:59:20
#86 brownlie

Independence whats that the answer?

how does that guarantee people pension payments from the U.K after Independence (and alexs retirement on his first minister pension..M.P and msps as well)
87

jacquesmac,

09/08/2008 19:16:25
#87

Are you saying that post independence anyone who has worked for the British establishment, HM Customs, RAF, Army, Civil Srvice etc will have NO pension rights because England would not allow it.

Idiot!

The sun will stop shining and Scotland will be struck down with a plague of boils, frogs and the deaths of the first born?


All the old canards trouped out to frighten the feeble minded.

I was in Denmark when they had their last referendum on the Euro and the Danes saw through that argument about pensions and the Welfare Estate collapsing because they did not follow their Master's bidding.

Scare tactics, same as saying NO UK, No work for the Clyde shipbuilders; ie cancelation of the two aircraft carriers, which in my opinion any will not be build, union or no union.

We are all frightened children, not
88

subrosa,

09/08/2008 19:20:04
# 87

It doesn't guarantee anything except the fact that you might leave to live somewhere more suited to your beliefs.

That's good enough for me.
89

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 09/08/2008 19:42:21
Cathy, who is the Champions' Tsar at Westminster?
90

Jimmy Le Pie,

09/08/2008 19:49:36
I see Comrade Broon and Ian Rankin were saving the Union today at the Festival.



Can we expect a new novel from Rankin, where Rebus signs himself out of the Priory and battles to save the Union, single-handedly from the evil LIT and the worlds #1 arch-villain Alex Salmond and his moll Nicola.
Rebus, who gets help from a secretive ex Ulster B Special secret agent, known only as AM2, who is licensed by the Queen, (God bless Her!) to bore people to death, battles his own demons (he's too fond of the Clan McPish, 3 year old) and the shadowy nationalist known only as Traquir and his gang of cybernats.
With the plot moving rapidly between the Hootsmon and the Herald this will be Rankin's greatest novel, despite Rebus topping himself rather than reading another line of AM2's statistical drivel and Scotland gaining her independence.
Rankin then bu6gers off to live in Switzerland, (like all good socialists) to avoid paying LIT.
91

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 09/08/2008 19:53:39
91, Jimmy, reckon Rebus would go to Spain - they have smoking pubs there.
92

brownlie,

09/08/2008 19:59:33
87 Nikos


I do believe you are silly enough to think that the threat of withdrawal of pensions rights by the UK Government to its former employees could be used as a justification for retention of the union.

Then again desperately clutching at straws and the posting of fatuous remarks seems to be a pre-occupation with your good self.
93

Nikostratos,

09/08/2008 21:29:06
Well at least we now know the snp drones don't give a t#ss for pensioners........and if you dont like it they say f##k off out of Scotland.

and they got the nerve to criticise Cathy Jamieson
94

Rufus T. Firefly,

09/08/2008 22:08:29
Hez Jaquesmac have you bought your John Lewis shares yet you idiot?
95

Matt there,

somewhere 09/08/2008 22:27:31
An anagram of Cathy Jamieson is:

Cheats May Join.

Sounds about right.

Anyhow... if she will be a pensioner's champion, does this mean Wendy and previuos Labour leaders were NOT the champion of pensioners?
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scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 10/08/2008 08:30:31
All these goodies that lablior hopefuls are going to give away,when will this mana from heaven happen.there was no sign of it when they were in power.So don't hold your breath waiting.being a pensioner i take issue with jamieson that the SNP are ignoring us.the british government are the ones that are ignoring us.The scottish Government does not have a say in setting PENSIONS AND SOCIAL SECURITY
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/08/2008 16:15:40
Niko, are you SERIOUSLY saying that Scotland is better of in the union? REALLY?? Is it a union of equals, as it was SUPPOSED to be? Do you believe in fairies too?
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/08/2008 16:15:49
Niko, are you SERIOUSLY saying that Scotland is better off in the union? REALLY?? Is it a union of equals, as it was SUPPOSED to be? Do you believe in fairies too?
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/08/2008 16:15:49
Niko, are you SERIOUSLY saying that Scotland is better off in the union? REALLY?? Is it a union of equals, as it was SUPPOSED to be? Do you believe in fairies too?
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/08/2008 16:17:08
HEY, a double! :-) Can YOU spot the difference?

Labour leadership in Scotland awaits if you do!! :-))
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JCA REID,

Annan 11/08/2008 13:43:02
Simply a tactic to chase after the "gray vote". The only thing this lot are interested is lining their own pockets from the public purse. Do folk honestly think they want things to change? Course not, cos they'd be out of a cushy living!!.

 

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