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Labour employs psychiatrist to beat Salmond



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Published Date: 26 June 2008
WHEN it comes to winning political battles in the cauldron of the debating chamber, the mind games employed by the chief combatants are all- important.
And most observers of the hurly-burly that is Question Time in the Scottish Parliament would agree that First Minister Alex Salmond tends to emerge victorious over his main adversary, Wendy Alexander.

But Labour MSPs believe a psychiatrist's analysis of the performance of their own leader and fellow members, against the First Minister, will allow them to land more verbal punches on the SNP leader.

The expert has offered Labour his views on the strengths and weaknesses of Mr Salmond, to help Ms Alexander gain the upper-hand during debates.

He has revealed him to be a combative personality who revels in the din of heckles, but is intimidated by the strong, silent treatment.

The psychiatrist told Labour MSPs that, like an errant schoolboy left to stew in his own ignorance, Mr Salmond should no longer be assaulted with insults by his opponents but should instead be left in silence to answer questions in the hope that this will reveal a failure to grasp crucial details.

The battle of minds during recent Question Times has been repeatedly won by the First Minister, but the Labour Party believes its new psychological evaluation has provided it with crucial insights into their opponent's Achilles' heel.

The psychiatrist, who has not been named, identified particular Labour MSPs as enablers whose behaviour actually assisted the SNP leader.



Amongst the biggest culprits are Lord George Foulkes, Duncan McNeil and Andy Kerr. The psychiatrist observed that every time they made "an intervention from a sedentary position" it gave the First Minister an easy get-out from actually answering the question.

"What we were told was that Mr Salmond was obviously coming in with pre-prepared attacks on those three MSPs," a senior Labour MSP told The Scotsman.

"Every time they started giving him a hard time, Salmond simply went on the attack against one of them and was able to avoid answering the question. It was also observed when there was silence, Salmond had to actually concentrate on the question and struggled to answer.

"The heckling plays to his strengths because of his time in Westminster, but his real weakness is that he has no real grasp of detail, so when he is not given the opportunity of attacking somebody else, he's in trouble."

The MSP added: "It has provided a fascinating insight for us into what we do and made us all sit back and take a look at ourselves. In the heat of battle, you don't always realise that what you do might actually be helping the other side rather than hindering them."

The Scotsman understands that the psychiatrist was already carrying out observations of First Minister's Questions out of professional interest and then offered his services to help out Labour leader Wendy Alexander.

The help was used as part of efforts to improve Ms Alexander's performance in the Scottish Parliament, especially after a series of poor performances during First Minister's Questions.

The difficulty Labour has been trying to overcome is Mr Salmond not answering questions Ms Alexander puts to him, and for her to expose this as a weakness. They have often complained that he uses Question Time as a means of insulting his opponents.

The psychiatrist said that a quiet chamber also enhanced Ms Alexander's one noticeable strength over Mr Salmond, which is her grasp of detail. If the advice is followed, the new-found silence on the Labour benches will be a relief for Presiding Officer Alex Fergusson who has been under pressure to stop MSPs from drowning out debate.

But the bad news for Mr Fergusson is that there are no plans to give other SNP ministers the same silent treatment.

Labour have officially denied that they have taken on a psychiatrist.

Alexander did break rules over donations

WENDY Alexander was found yesterday to have broken parliamentary rules by not declaring donations to her leadership campaign.

The judgment on the Scottish Labour leader was passed down by the Holyrood standards committee, which has been investigating donations to her successful leadership campaign last summer.

But the committee was split on what action to take against Ms Alexander. Some members said she should not be punished in any way, but others disagreed.

The cross-party committee will meet again today to decide what to do. It could suspend her, censure her or let her off without punishment. It is understood all three options are still on the table.

Suspension is unlikely but, if it were to happen, it could spell the end of Ms Alexander's leadership of the Scottish Labour Party.

The committee is looking into eight donations to Ms Alexander's leadership fund.

She did not declare these donations as gifts, but that was after taking advice from clerks to the standards committee. She insists she acted in good faith.

The controversy flared up only when Jim Dyer, the Standards Commissioner, overruled the clerks and decided that Ms Alexander should have declared the donations after all.


The full article contains 854 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 25 June 2008 10:31 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish Labour Party
 
1

druidh,

edinburgh 26/06/2008 00:07:10
Wow! "Alexander did break rules over donations" was sort of snuck onto the bottom of that article.

2

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeen/shire 26/06/2008 00:09:24
I think Wendy needs a psychiatrist for more pressing matters.
3

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 26/06/2008 00:10:27
So desparate is this, I truly welcome AM2, Highland Mighty and all trying to positively spin this.

Laughable.

Yet more votes added to independence.

Bring it on.
4

Sanny,

26/06/2008 00:11:57
I should think Wendy's need of the help of a psychiatrist has little to do with the FM and more to do with Wendy's general incompetence and her Party's lack of coherent policies.

I wonder if like her spin doctors this is the first of many shrinks to be employed by Wendy. This said if it silences the loudmouths in the Labour Party that spoil the debate then so much the better.
5

Celyn,

Glasgow 26/06/2008 00:20:04
How funny that the tiny detail that "Wendy DID break the rules" is only fitted in as something of an afterthought. :)

Dodgy tricks and now trick-cyclists. Good entertainment, eh? All together now, things can only get better ....... :)
6

Orson,

26/06/2008 00:21:09
Is Wendy Alexander in need of a character implant? It would seem from first encounter with this subject that that is why she sought medical advice.

Good grief! The mind boggles. Whatever happened the Heroes? No more heroes any more!, no more heroes any more.

Labour pursuing their social justice policies to the extreme, the top jobs no longer go to natural born leaders, those with personality or flair, they now go to average run of the mill administrators who can't organise a simple spreadsheet, what they lack can be bought in as some kind of Disability adjustor allowance.
7

john z,

edinburgh 26/06/2008 00:26:01
WHERE IS THE COEVERAGE OF WENDY BEING FOUND GUILTY BY HER PARLIAMENTARY PEERS OF WRONGDOING?????

WHERE IS THE STORY.

ARE ALL THE JOURNALISTS AT THE SCOTSMAN JUST ENGLISH PUPPETS??

Instead we are all treated to some nonsense about Psychiatrists, or clairvoyants or something to help wendy handle her gross incompetence as a leader.

Utter manipulative piffle.
8

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 26/06/2008 00:26:46
"The psychiatrist told Labour MSPs that, like an errant schoolboy left to stew in his own ignorance, Mr Salmond should no longer be assaulted with insults by his opponents."

I can see from this that even the psychiatrist is imbalanced and partisan. Perhaps this psychiatrist should see a psychiatrist. Maybe Simon Pia can help him spin things a little more appealingly.
9

Conan the Librarian™,

26/06/2008 00:29:09
"Labour hopes that with a little expert help Wendy Alexander will finally get the upper hand on Alex Salmond."

Wait till I catch my breath from the laughing...
10

MisterN,

Scotland 26/06/2008 00:30:53
And who is paying for this headshrink? it better be from their own pocket. This is party political expense not a national expense.

The political pygmies on the opposition benches just cant cope with real politicians mind you it doesnt help when your policies are based on the if its not hurting its not working principle.
11

piehutt,

26/06/2008 00:43:43
Hmmm - some real desperation tactics from Labour in the whole 'employing a psychiatrist' issue there.

I'm sure Salmond does have weaknesses, but sadly for Labour whatever they are they pale into insignificance when compared with Wendy Alexander and her colleagues.

However, it seems Labour will soon have to find a new leader. Certainly after she is suspended from Holyrood, it would take a talentless, spineless lot not to replace her with someone who can at least claim to have some credibility. Hmm maybe they'll keep her after all.
12

Jwil,

26/06/2008 00:44:42
"Labour employs psychiatrist to beat Salmond"

This must be a first for a political party. This is really clutching at straws! Is the Labour party admitting that Wendy is not the intellectual giant that the thought she was?

I can't wait to hear Salmond's response.

"Amongst the biggest culprits are Lord George Foulkes, Duncan McNeil and Andy Kerr."

Well we didn't need a Psychiatrist to tell us that but I agree that they do!

I think this must be a tactic by the presiding officer to get better behaviour in the chamber as he has been pretty unsuccessful so far.


13

Matt there,

somewhere 26/06/2008 00:49:51
This psychiatrist should be struck off.
14

DouglasT,

26/06/2008 00:50:05
I guess that Labour choosing to use a psychiatrist to help them in the chamber is an acceptance of their own shortcomings. However, that Labour MSPs believe

'a psychiatrist's analysis of the performance of their own leader and fellow members, against the First Minister, will allow them to land more verbal punches on the SNP leader'

is itself informative; it supports my personal belief that the raison d'etre of Labour MSPs is solely to attack the SNP at every opportunity. Any advantage or disadvantage to Scotland or the Scottish people is, to them, an irrelevance. Possibly there is still a resentment in Labour minds that the people of Scotland dared to elect a party other than theirs.

The concluding reference in the article
'She did not declare these donations as gifts, but that was after taking advice from clerks to the standards committee. She insists she acted in good faith.'

Sadly, the article neglects to explain that the advice from the clerks was only sought long after the donations had attained rogue status. But why let the truth spoil the propaganda ...

Quality journalism, you can't beat it; unfortunately, in this article you can't find it.
15

Castaway,

26/06/2008 00:50:57
Why doesn't the Scottish Labour Party employ a ventriloquist ?
16

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 26/06/2008 00:53:49
#7

There was a story online yesterday. Some good debate going, nothing libellous or slanderous. All comments pulled before half seven last night.

How will the poor liebore people be able to support her now that post has gone ?

Sorry - edit the last bit. How will the poor liebore people be able to support her now ?

Bet no story on hootsman tomorrow or next few days about this allows any comments. Any takers ?

Nite all

17

Nikostratos,

26/06/2008 00:53:49
Why dont they try a hypnotist...much better ....look into my eyes look into my eyes! (,)(').....now vote labour..there you go easy peasy
18

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 26/06/2008 00:54:37
So there we have it:

"LABOUR EMPLOYS PSYCHIATRIST TO BEAT SALMOND"

"OIL-OBSESSED SNP FIGURES DO NOT MAKE SENSE"

"SALMOND IS ACCUSED OF LITANY OF WORTHLESS PLEDGES"

"DOUBTS CAST OVER SNPS CLAIM FOR OIL-COST WINDFALL"

Pretty major stories in today's Scotsman. Need I say more.

If you delve deep enough you get "Donations row: Wendy Alexander 'broke rules' says parliament watchdog" (NO COMMENTS ALLOWED.)


19

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 26/06/2008 00:54:51
#16

... because someone'd have to stock their hand up her 'rse to work her....

Now really, bed time and this will be gone in the mornin no doubt.
20

Richardinho,

26/06/2008 00:57:44
Nice to hear that the Labour party have a new Deckchair arranger.

Of course their lack of success is entirely down to 'presentation'. Nothing to do with corruption and having rotten policies-oh no!
21

Ananurhing,

26/06/2008 01:12:28
"But Labour MSPs believe a psychiatrist's analysis of the performance of their own leader and fellow members"

At last! The first steps to recovery is accepting you have a problem.

FMQs should be a hoot!
22

Ananurhing,

26/06/2008 01:19:14
How many 'ologists does she need?
She has a Kidologist (Andy Kerr), A skatologist (Foulkes), and an Amphibologist (Simon Pia)!

What next? Voodoo????????!
23

Guga II,

Rockall 26/06/2008 01:19:42
Forfoulkesake, "her grasp of detail", is that something like the story we were getting about her being an intellectual giant? She might have a grasp of detail about hungy caterpillars, but that's about it.

As for the Mouth of the South and her "unintentionally breaking the law", and "acing in good faith", why are the Hootsmon distorting the truth, again. She only sought the advice of the clerks after the storm had broken, not before.

If wee Jeanie Smith from the Gorbals had broken the law, and came out with these sorts of excuses to the Sheriff, she'd be given six month, without the option. However, the Mouth of the South will only be given a slap on the wrist.

Anyway people, get in your comments while you can, as the Hootsmon will remove them all by morning, and block any further comments (just as they did yesterday). They don't want to allow anyone to criticise their precious New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch).


24

bring them on,

26/06/2008 01:19:43
So what is the psychiatrist going to say.

He really wanted to be a Blue Peter presenter?

25

Edward,

26/06/2008 01:28:15
Shouldnt the headline be
'WENDY ALEXANDER FOUND GUILTY!'

As usual David Maddox is taking Simon Pia's breifing in order to cover up the finding yesterday that Wendy Alexander was found guilty by the Holyrood Standards Committee and fcaes being suspended
26

Ananurhing,

26/06/2008 01:29:19
Maybe a cosmetologist might be useful while they're at it. Scottish Labour need to take a good look at their foundation!
27

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 26/06/2008 01:30:07
Wendy has already used the silent treatment on AS during FMQs on April 17, when she declared: "I have no further questions".

Whether she thought she was a barrister in a court case, one can only guess.

One thing's for sure. She was belittled by politicians and journalists alike for her performance, so I can't see her doing a repeat performance just to try out a psychiatrist's supposed cure.
28

Edward,

26/06/2008 01:31:19
The psychiatrist is going to have his work cut out analysing Wendy Alexander, may even end up publishing a paper based on what he finds with WEndy, with lecture tours to follow. based on how dillusional can she really be
29

Ananurhing,

26/06/2008 01:34:13
This'll be when Wendy finds out that Salmond isn't the problem. It's all her parents fault. Never bought her a bike when she was 9 or something like that.
30

Richardinho,

26/06/2008 01:35:53
Labour's solution to everything-add another expensive consultant to the payroll!
31

Shellfishfarmer,

Inverness 26/06/2008 01:47:07
Wendy keeps coming away with her alibi that she had confirmation from the clerks that she didn't need to declare the sums of money as gifts. What do the clerks have to say about this, because obviously if Wendy is right, they are made to look stupid? I bet the grapevine amongst the officials in Holyrood is thick with venom at how Wendy is misrepresenting them. Certainly the journalist on the Holyrood programme on Wewdnesday afternoon seemed to let the cat out of the bag, by suggesting that what Wendy says about the clerks is disputed. They can't answer of course, but the truth will out and Wendy will be shown to have told another porkie. How will her batman, Jackie the hut, play this? Answers on a postcard please!
32

Ananurhing,

26/06/2008 01:47:31
Interesting tactics for an opposition party.

"Give him the silent treatment. Let him stew. If you say anything it only encourages him."

I'm off to bed. If I can stop laughing! But then I just might cry. I hope that after independence we get a proper opposition party.
33

Edward,

26/06/2008 01:47:48
32 Richardinho
Actually knowing how Labour operate, they will try and push it through as expenses and get the taxpayer to pay
34

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 26/06/2008 01:52:08
It is my understanding that one of the major challenges for the university sector is the need to teach more psychiatrists to deal with the impending implosion of Labour in Scotland. Post traumatic stress syndrom is a terrible scourge of those who have been uncerimoniously plucked from the trough without proper preparation and support services. The squealing will curl you hair.

I urge all on the threads to review the FMQ over the last year, (available on SKY TV) and watch the expressions of the Labour backbench when Wendy asks questions and even more so when Alex answers. The tell tale signs of severe depression and disassociation from reality are evident to all.

35

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26/06/2008 02:07:19
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bring them on,

26/06/2008 02:09:37
Wendy is soooooooo sexy
37

Murray in Canada,

Salt Spring Island 26/06/2008 02:13:00
I'm not sure if I should take this story as gospel, or whether it's an elaborate joke on someone's part. But if it's true, it might lead to a quieter Parliament. If the FM is shown up as ill-prepared in the doom-laden silence, that's too bad [and I doubt it somehow], but anything that tends to raise the quality of the debates, and the standard of so-called adult behaviour, is a Good Thing.
38

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26/06/2008 02:13:38
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indune1,

Canada 26/06/2008 02:13:50

It's her lips!!!!
40

Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

26/06/2008 02:14:54
39 Murray in Canada,Salt Spring Island 26/06/2008 02:13:00
I'm not sure if I should take this story as gospel, or whether it's an elaborate joke on someone's part. But if it's true, it might lead to a quieter Parliament. If the FM is shown up as ill-prepared in the doom-laden silence, that's too bad [and I doubt it somehow], but anything that tends to raise the quality of the debates, and the standard of so-called adult behaviour, is a Good Thing


I dont think silence will be the problem. Lack of oxygen from laughter and several members taken out with weezing too much could be a possibility.
41

JulesF,

26/06/2008 02:31:16
Oh sorry, I just finished reading this article and then realised I'd logged on to DC Thomson and the Beano by mistake.
I'll get my coat!
42

Castaway,

26/06/2008 02:50:40
The Holyrood standards committee voted by five to two that Wendy had broken the rules and there are two Labour members of the committee, one could guess that the two dissenters would be the two Labour members ?
43

bring them on,

26/06/2008 03:04:02
I will give Wendy the thumbs up anytime.

Too much moaning, and not enough joy from some posters.
44

Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

26/06/2008 03:29:29
NEWS JUST IN!!!!!

"Labour employ psychiatrist to look after leader?"

Rumours abonded last night as Labour executive members made moves to have wendy sectioned. A labour insider told us last night.

The moles rsiad the reason was members where increasingly worried about her erratic behaviour, fits of the "wee wees" , Richard madley like criminality and fits of agoraphobia when a pressing issue presents.

The hatchet faced 80 a day harpy , sorry mole, rasped "I think the best person for the job is margaret Curran" , "off course I am in no way Margaret Curran, you understand......."

Whilst on the phone to the mole a presence in the background could be heard exclaiming "GIGIDDY".

From inside knowledge this is believed to be the voice of Ian Gray, part time pet worrier and verbal regurgetaitor.
45

Royster,

26/06/2008 04:11:45
This is a great news story. It will be interesting to see if it successful and I rather think it might be - given the widespread use of psychologists by the police. It is very difficult for people to change their characters and everyone has a weak spot. It is also well known that Alex Salmond loves to play to the gallery so if there is no gallery...
46

Royster,

26/06/2008 04:15:16
#7. John. That was the lead story in the Scotsman yesterday.
47

somerferg,

perth 26/06/2008 04:31:52
ha,ha,ha oh sorry can't stop giggling over the prospect of the monkeys with red rosettes using mind games to beat Alex Salmond. What a hoot - someone needs to point out to them that you actually need a mind before you have a chance of doing that :)
48

izzie,

dundee 26/06/2008 05:10:26
Didn't Wendy already try the silent treatment with the 'no further questions' response? All that did was make her look like she had run out of things to ask.
49

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Longdirk Maceth,

YNC 26/06/2008 05:25:52
And Labour said they were going to try to reconect with the scottish people? What a hoot.
51

bluehead,

edinburgh 26/06/2008 05:30:47
at last!I have been saying for years that the labour government are in desperate need of a psychiatrist
the people of this country have never seen so many nutters all at one time.
I suggest Gordon brown gets priority treatment, he looks as if he needs the most.
perhaps he could even book some padded cells for his cronies,what a pile.!!!
52

LEAL,

26/06/2008 05:39:46
Where will Labour find the money to pay for a shrink when they struggle to pay their staff? What is Labours debt and what is their membership? And why no story about Alexander being found again to be a liar and a cheat?
53

Phil C,

26/06/2008 05:40:18
It's Wendy that needs a psycho to massage her faltering ego!

In any case, why do Labour need a psychiatrist to fight their battles? With headlines like "Salmond is accused of litany of worthless pledges" The Scotsman is doing fine in it's attempt to undermine Salmond.
54

Rodster,

Glasgow 26/06/2008 05:41:32
The committee can deliver whatever punishment it deems appropriate .
However in the end it will be the sovereign people of Scotland that will deliver the final verdict.
Unionists and Nationalists alike can say whatever they wish on here , the results of the ballot box is the most important.
55

bring them on,

26/06/2008 06:09:45
#55

I'll massage her ego any day,
56

Advance Alba,

edinburgh 26/06/2008 06:32:55
Isn't it unethical of the Labour psychiatrist to be analysing Salmond to provide means of attacking him and exploiting his weaknesses? Evidence that is so is vouchsafed by the creep's insistence on anonymity. For shame! Whoever he is has brought his profession into disrepute.
57

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 26/06/2008 06:53:03
Psychiatrist? I doubt it. This sort of analysis is carried out by psychologists.

That said, the habit of Alex to avoid the question by attacking the questioner is a standard political manoevre (known as 'displacement', in the psych trade). Just try criticising the SNF here!
58

Traquir , Alba,

26/06/2008 07:06:32
That is one very smart Psychiatrist. He is
setup for life analyzing these Labour MSPs :)
59

Jimmy the Pie,

26/06/2008 07:07:01
What about a book from Red Wendy???

Halls of Infamy 2 perhaps???
60

yockel,

26/06/2008 07:09:56
So the Liebour Party needs a psychiatrist to tell them how to behave, glad they have seen the light at long last.
When they eventually get fed up of him, no fun being told you've got it wrong for all these years, I do a nice line in the reading of the goat entrails. Very reasonable rates. Can do chicken guts, runes and bones if the goat is bit squeemish about it.
61

steve 1511,

aberdeen 26/06/2008 07:13:10
is this psychiarist looking into the mental state of wee wendy the bungs heid as she and her pals in the labour stasi party are in denial to her breaking the law,they bring shame and disgrace to holyrood by their actions, but dishonesty and lying is now a norm for labour in scotland and the uk,
62

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 26/06/2008 07:19:32
Of course we all know the Hootsmon do this deliberatly, all manner of anti-SNP stories, but any criticism of Liebore is not tolerated - of course, we'll find a way around that.

Wendy needs a shrink? Quelle surprise!!
63

yockel,

26/06/2008 07:20:03
Did Wendy break the rules, must have missed that. If she had you would have thought the Hootsmon would have done a big spread on it.
64

John Jamieson,

Edinburgh 26/06/2008 07:33:43
This psychiatrist's first job should be analysing the behaviour of your named Labour MSPs. His report would make fascinating reading.
65

donald,

glasgow 26/06/2008 07:35:43
This only further proves that all trick cyclists are nuts.

Labourites get a hammering because their policies stink and are anti Scottish and anti working class. No amount of spin and media compliance can cover that.
66

11+failed,

the pans 26/06/2008 07:38:08
"Ms Alexander's one noticeable strength over Mr Salmond, which is her grasp of detail."

Curiously Wendy failed to grasp the fact that she was accepting illegal bungs!
67

Ninian Reid,

Edinburgh 26/06/2008 07:40:39
Scottish Labour will SHRINK to complete oblivion, if it hasn't already done so. The party's finished, crushed by the Master of Strategy and his clear-minded Cabinet.
68

spiderman,

argyll 26/06/2008 07:42:16
All the psychiatrists I know are nuts!!
69

11+failed,

the pans 26/06/2008 07:43:52
How many Labour MSPs claimed for this psychiatrist on their expenses?
70

An Beal Bacht,

26/06/2008 07:44:42
What nonsense this article is. Clearly AS uses behavioural techniques in FMQ's. If you ask a reasonable question with a view to furthering Scotland's interests you get a reasonable answer. However, if you are only out to score points you are in for some aversive conditioning - you get your @rse skelpt.
71

Uilleam Mor,

26/06/2008 07:48:59
Labour talked about being tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime.

But what does the Wendy Alexander affair says about crime is that it is ok to take illegal bungs because nothing will happen to you if you are caught.

That's right, politician for rent. So why not council officers. It seems to have happened quite extensively in Glasgow City Council, and why stop there.

What about a secret bung ( sorry donation) for the police, the tax man, the administrator in the NHS, planning official et al.

That folks is the heart of what has been going on. Hey but it's ok, it really is.
72

Labour Sleeze Reporter,

26/06/2008 07:50:43
The professional who was not brought in but volunteered his services is actually the husband of a Labour Councillor in Edinburgh. Waiting for the name to come - probably within 24 hours.
73

Labour Sleeze Reporter,

26/06/2008 07:51:40
Unfortunately getting info from labour sources normally requires giving a bung and I haven't been to the bank yet.
74

Uilleam Mor,

26/06/2008 07:52:23
Oh and what about the baseball bat for those that don't play ball. That is the other side of the bung culture.
75

bring them on,

26/06/2008 07:54:49
Where did all the bung experts come from suddenly
76

JayJay,

Right here 26/06/2008 07:55:02
Her "grasp of detail" is famously non existent so perhaps the psychiatrist needs a psychiatrist himself as he is plainly delusional.
Lord knows what the psychiatrist might make of character such as Baillie, Gordon, Foulkes and Kerr. These people have regressed to a state of deep denial where they are unable to accept that Scotland did not vote them into power, and further unable to acknowledge that their "leader" is quite unable to fill the role.
This plan could backfire! The psychiatrist might need quite a few straightjackets.
77

Uilleam Mor,

26/06/2008 07:56:25
Gangsters and drug dealers give out bungs - and under Wendy rules this must be ok. I mean what is the difference between a secret donation from a developer or a secret donation from a drug dealer.

It's ok, it really is.
78

Foresight,

By The Water of Leith 26/06/2008 07:56:54

Do psychiatrists devour their jung ??

Getting George Foulkes to keep his mouth shut - impossible !!
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morris,

Edinburgh 26/06/2008 07:59:31
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You make a point well here.The notion that the clerks who should know about this gave her false information,when she only approached them after she had been "Fund oot"seems extremely unlikely,and of course Wendy claims this,but none of the Press report the other side of the coin, which is what do the people Wendy accuses of this say in response?
The fact that we neither have a confirmation nor a denial publicly ,apart from Wendy's version,suggests you are indeed correct in your suspicions,and this will now presumably come out as being long overdue.
Irrespective of what they decide, she is walking away scot free,when anybody else would face trial.This cannot be allowed to rest until she does face trial!Justice will only be served when it is seen that no one is immune from prosecution,and rules which Labour designed, cannot be used to protect Labour corrupt politicians,or we have no justice.You can spin all you want.She is guilty and she must be held to account in an appropriate manner,and thats proceed to the procurator fiscals office(which cannot happen because the electoral commission were used to facilitate a miscarriage of justice by preventing any possibility of them being allowed to do what they are paid to do).
The facts have been reported well enough to establish her guilt.No trial when guilty cannot possibly be called justice.They can spin till the cows come home,nobody believes anything Labour claim anymore.
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Jim A A,

oban 26/06/2008 08:04:16
Any guy who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.
S.Goldwyn
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Uilleam Mor,

26/06/2008 08:04:52
Oh yes, we were on about psychiatrists before we got onto the much less important issue of bungs for all.

Well yes, I do think psycho analysis of some of the other New Liebour good and great would burst the head of many a health care professional.

Foukles might be diagnosed as having a tendendency to get over-refreshed ( health professionals can take bungs too you know) Jabba Baillie might have a dose of anorexia nervosa, and Wendy, well she would come out with a tip top bill of health since her pals would have appointed the pyschiatrist.

Poor Alex S though, don't know what the liebour shrink would make of him. He'd probably have him sectiooned and locked away if he could.

Ah we have it, that's it, a new Labour plan to restore confidence in bad, sorry good governance.
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Busymale,

26/06/2008 08:41:35
Yep, its official - Labour need psychiatrists!
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It's me!,

26/06/2008 08:43:55
Wendy isn't so good with detail when it comes to the donations she received.

#41 No it's her chins ..... all of them!
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bring them on,

26/06/2008 08:46:21
#87

I like it when she gets angry.

Forget about the psychiatrist doing the beating, give me Wendy
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Senga Jean,

Scotland 26/06/2008 08:53:27
LABOUR SHRINK SHRUNK SHREK. WENDY WOOED WITH WODGE OF WONGA. SSSorry I was getting carried away!
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Boy Wonder,

26/06/2008 08:54:44
This article is about as well-balanced as my cat Toodles, who thinks she's a canine since ner mother abandoned her at birth to my dog, Ruffles.

But then ... it IS Bendy Wendy who needs the psychiatric help!
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AJ Fife,

26/06/2008 09:01:35
Next stop is Stratheden for wee 'mental' wendy!!! LOL
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Lillig,

26/06/2008 09:09:24
We don't want mind games and shmecherie, we want good government that puts the people first.

Gawd, I hate political shenanigans.
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/06/2008 09:19:46
Caption for the photo:-

"I wonder how you do that thing where you wave your arm like this and it appears to get longer?"

Any more?
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 26/06/2008 09:25:16
Political parties will sometimes go to any lengths to gain the upper hand but this take's the biscuit?

As regards Labour's petty charge that Salmond never answers a question at Hollyrood FMQ? It's more likely that the insufferable Eck simply knows his brief backwards, and during debates clearly bullies the Opposition politicians at Holyrood, none of whom are in the same calibre!

The duty of the Opposition is to hold the government to account but IF Ms. Alexander cannot cope with gallus Eck or stuffy Sturgeon then she should change careers!

Ms. Alexander's temporary absence from politics has certainly not helped the Labour Party in Scotland and how someone as untried as her could be elected leader unopposed must be a mystery to may Labour supporters?
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Rodster,

Glasgow 26/06/2008 09:27:05
The phsychiatrist story is all smoke and mirrors to stop any discussion on Wendy being found guilty by the Committee.
The North British is trying , and successfully to bury this in amongst this piffle.
She should not only be banned from Holyrood for a week she should be forced to resign and face her electorate.
We are the ultimate judge and jury,the people are sovereign in Scotland .
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Castaway,

26/06/2008 09:28:40
Wendy, a big difference between you and Alex Salmond, apart from the obvious is that Alex is a professional politician.
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Arrow,

edinburgh 26/06/2008 09:30:44
Shades of the Runaway Jury methinks! is this shrinks fees coming out of the Liebour party's funds? what do the grass roots think of this crass route? is he a Liebour party supporter and if so will he tell them what they want to hear or the truth. as for Wendy's "a civil servant telt me" excuse. could these be the same civil servants that are keeping the files warm for the "natural party of government" that put them into their positions of power and would cover for Windy? it would be interesting to find out how many of these "impartial" civil servants are card carrying members of the Liebour party.
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Jwil,

26/06/2008 09:32:14
The men in white coats are coming to take her away!
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Alan B,

26/06/2008 09:36:27
You could not make this up.

"If the advice is followed, the new-found silence on the Labour benches will be a relief for Presiding Officer Alex Fergusson who has been under pressure to stop MSPs from drowning out debate."

So the psychiatrist thinks labour are acting like children.

"The psychiatrist told Labour MSPs that, like an errant schoolboy left to stew in his own ignorance"

Sound like the guy is more a labour press release.

Like or loath him one thing u cannot accuse Salmond of is ignorance.

Labour really do not get it. There problem is they lack a vision for scotland. Lack policies to rectify scotland problems.

It is interesting that Morgan the labour leader in wales will stand up for Wales against labour in london in a way that labour in scotland refuse to.

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Alan B,

26/06/2008 09:38:12
#Castaway

"Wendy, a big difference between you and Alex Salmond, apart from the obvious is that Alex is a professional politician."

Wendy must be a professional politician as she accepts money from all sources.
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Alastair the First,

26/06/2008 09:38:49
Better be careful, Labour. Several of your MSPs look likely to be sectioned by the psychiatrist.
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Alastair the First,

26/06/2008 09:39:31
No. it's a psychiatrist. Wendy is mental...
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John south of Soutra,

26/06/2008 09:43:38
Having just read this article, I find it amazing that the fact that Wendy Alexander has been found guilty by the standards committee, is not the headline news but is stuck onto the bottom of the article. I will admit that I have not read through all the comments as I felt that I needed to make a comment myself about this.
This clearly shows that the Scotsman no longer has any journalistic integrity and has developed into the Scottish version of Pravda
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11+failed,

the pans 26/06/2008 09:48:27
The question now is, are we to have a Wendy The Bung whitewash?