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MSPs debate Wendy Alexander's fate



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Published Date: 04 September 2008
MSPs WERE today urged to dismiss a recommendation that former Labour leader Wendy Alexander should be suspended from Holyrood for a day.
The Scottish Parliament was debating the proposed ban after its Standards Committee ruled Ms Alexander had broken the law by failing to register donations to her leadership campaign within the required 30 days.

But today Labour MSP Jackie Baillie
urged MSPs: "Let the wiser heads in this Parliament today dismiss this report which is unfair, unjust and frankly plain wrong."

However, SNP MSP Christina McKelvie argued Ms Alexander should be barred, saying the former Labour leader had "still not accepted responsibility for her actions".

In June the Standards Committee had agreed the ban by a one-vote majority, with SNP and Lib Dem members voting in favour while Labour and the Tories abstained.

However Holyrood went into its summer recess before the Parliament could vote on the committee's recommendation.

Just two days after that Ms Alexander – who maintained throughout that she had been told by Standards Committee clerks that she did not need to declare the donations – quit as Labour's Holyrood leader.

Today Ms Baillie, a close ally of Ms Alexander, told MSPs: "I believe that Wendy Alexander has paid a very high price for a report which some commentators have described as partisan."

She went on: "Some in this chamber may regard what they have done as a political victory, but wiser heads will reflect on the consequences for this parliament and democracy and let the wiser heads in this parliament today dismiss this report which is unfair, unjust and frankly plain wrong."

Ms Baillie defended the former Labour leader, saying: "The member understood that this was not a registerable interest.

"The clerks advised that this was not a registerable interest. The Parliament's lawyers also advised that this was not a registerable interest, and the committee accepted that the position was ambiguous and did not find against the member on that point."

She added: "If asked today, the Parliament's lawyers would tell you exactly the same thing – this is not a registerable interest."

And she told MSPs: "The committee is not a court, it should not be determining points of law. The interpretation of law is properly a matter for the courts."

Ms Baillie also claimed the Standards Committee report on the matter had "profound and far reaching consequences for all MSPs".

She argued that there was "clearly a need for clarification" on a number of matters, including guidance for MSPs involved in party elections.

She added there was a need for clarification on whether the procedures complied with the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).

On this matter Ms Baillie stated: "There is a considered view from leading civil firms in Scotland that the process followed may indeed be in breach of article six of ECHR, as the committee may not be considered to be a fair and impartial tribunal."

And she added: "This has profound implications which need to be carefully considered by this Parliament."



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  • Last Updated: 04 September 2008 12:34 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish Labour Party
 
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GM,

04/09/2008 12:55:37
"Just two days after that Ms Alexander – who maintained throughout that she had been told by Standards Committee clerks that she did not need to declare the donations – quit as Labour's Holyrood leader."

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slight correction required -
"Just two days after that Ms Alexander – who maintained throughout that she had been told by Standards Committee clerks that she did not need to declare the donations (although she only asked the question *after* the deadline for reporting had passed – quit as Labour's Holyrood leader."








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can you see what I did there?

one small turn of phrase to turn a piece of spin into truth.
2

GM,

04/09/2008 12:56:12
"Just two days after that Ms Alexander – who maintained throughout that she had been told by Standards Committee clerks that she did not need to declare the donations – quit as Labour's Holyrood leader."

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slight correction required -
"Just two days after that Ms Alexander – who maintained throughout that she had been told by Standards Committee clerks that she did not need to declare the donations (although she only asked the question *after* the deadline for reporting had passed – quit as Labour's Holyrood leader."








======================================================

can you see what I did there?

one small turn of phrase to turn a piece of spin into truth.
3

Alan B,

04/09/2008 13:07:51
A one day ban that has been recommended by the standards committe is just a slap on the wrist for breaking the rules.

So i really do not know why labour are complaining. As pointed out above Wendy did not seek clarity over the donations and whether they should be declared until months after the deadline and while being investigated for other matters. The guidelines as other msps have pointed out is declare if in doubt. Wendy was also apparently verbally told that she should declare these donations.

Part of the real problem for Wendy and the whole affair was not this insident but the other more important issue where she accepted and illegal donation and hence broke the law. Even there it was not the illegal donation but the cover up and the fact that so many details only got to the public domain by leaks from her own team.

Wendy also is unlucky in that so much other dodgy dealing and corruption was being exposed in labour at the same time.
4

JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 13:20:37
Jackie for Labour leader! Her self delusion would suit her party. All she needs is a few secret 995's now for her election campaign...
5

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 04/09/2008 14:08:32
At the end of the day, the electorate must question whether they would like to appoint Ms Alexander to anything higher than a market barrow if, as a legislator she fails to understand, without having to have it explained to her, what parliamentary rules and the law are in relation to donations.

This is following the £189,000(?) education programme to teach Labour party officials about donations.

She will be punished but mainly due to her arrogance and blatant stupidity on this and other matters.
6

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 04/09/2008 14:27:46
#3 alan

The reason Labour are complaining is because they still don't accept that Wendy did anything wrong.

Simple denial, nothing more, nothing less.
7

AJ Fife,

04/09/2008 15:14:24
You'd think the Labour mob would try and move on.....but aw no......they canny leave it alone....makes you think more of them are hiding something.......
8

Kimg Arthur,

04/09/2008 15:14:40
Ms Bailley - oh to rest my head between those enormous beoufe curtains.
9

Paddi,

04/09/2008 16:02:51
what on earth is wrong with her mouth???
10

JCA REID,

Annan 04/09/2008 16:19:58
Nothing but a bunch of jumped up petty parish councillors, who are only interested in their own greedy, devious dealings.....along as they don't get caught at it, & when they do.......
11

Vivas,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 17:14:28
This will be the second time in 6 months that Wendy will have been "cleared" won't it ? Firstly by the (ahem) "electoral commission", secondly by a bunch of frothing SLAB MSP's and a few eedjit tories and libDums along for the ride.

Alistair Darling finds her "not likeable at all", who are we to argue ???
12

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 17:31:18
I can't stand either Wendy Alexander or Scottish Labour, but I'm glad the vote didn't go against her. It was petty, vindictive and a silly fuss about nothing.
13

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 17:45:18
Why the hell are the parliament wasting time on this?

Wendy "Puddles" Alexander has resigned as leader of stupid labour. Leave it at that. Stop wasting your time and our money on this nonsense.
14

Col. Blimp­IV*,

04/09/2008 19:54:30
Does this mean they will have a Bobby Ewing style "shower scene" and Wendy will return as Leader, telling us all that it was all a terrible dream.

13&14 might even believe her.

What happened here is, a majority of our self policed MSP's have declared themselves to be above the law.

Which is neither "silly fuss about nothing" or a "waste of time and money" to discover just how arrogant and corrupt some of our representatives are.

 

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