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Start funding major projects now or jobs and expertise will go, SNP told



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Published Date: 11 September 2008
JOBS and expertise will be lost in Scotland as a result of the SNP government's failure to get its act together over funding major infrastructure projects, ministers have been warned.
There was a furious reaction to John Swinney's announcement in Holyrood yesterday on the Scottish Futures Trust (SFT), which failed to give any timetable about when the new body would be commissioning projects.

The SFT is intended to be the body w
hich funnels through infrastructure projects such as new schools, hospitals, roads and bridges.

But since the SNP came to power the commissioning of projects has ground to a halt, according to one building chief.

Delays have been caused because the original idea of issuing bonds had to be dropped after it was deemed illegal.

The SNP has been trying to develop the not-for-profit version of PFI to make it look different enough to sell to PFI opponents in the party.

Yesterday Mr Swinney announced merchant banker Sir Angus Grossart had been made chairman and the SFT had been registered with Companies' House, but offered no details on timescales and how the organisation would work.

He rejected the charge that not a single new school project had been commissioned since the SNP came to power, despite its promise to match the previous administration's school building programme "brick for brick".

Michael Levack, the chief executive of the Scottish Building Federation, warned that the construction industry had "gone beyond the critical point" in waiting for projects.

He said: "The flow of infrastructure projects has ground to a halt waiting for the SFT.

"If you look at what has happened with the housebuilding industry, that means there are going to be many jobs going over the next year unless (this] starts working."

He continued: "I also understand that the banks in Scotland have now either scaled down their teams which deal with private finance initiatives or got rid of them. It means the great expertise we had is drifting away and being lost."

The Scottish Government has insisted it has put forward new projects, including the Southern General Hospital for Glasgow, and it is building schools.

Mr Swinney said the SFT would benefit Scotland in the long term by finding £150 million of savings in projects and pooling expertise.

Asked about any deadlines on getting the SFT up and running, Sir Angus said: "We've only been going for half a day. We don't need to move too quickly."

But the building industry's concerns were echoed in the financial and legal sectors.

Jenny Stewart, head of public sector for KPMG accountants in Scotland, said: "What the Scottish economy needs now is new projects. NHS community facilities – the so-called Hub projects – have stalled since the election, no progress has been made on waste schemes, while local authorities are still struggling to afford new schools."

Ian McPake, partner and chairman at Tods Murray LLP, added: "The SFT seems to amount to little more than a re-branding of the already established non-profit-distributing model."

Andy Kerr, Labour's local government spokesman, said: "This is nothing more than an expensive and poorly managed re-branding of PPP with a £17 million quango."





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  • Last Updated: 11 September 2008 1:06 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
1

Richardinho,

11/09/2008 00:11:17
PFI is a scandal which will leave the country in debt for generations to come. It is simply unsustainable in the long term.
2

Col. Blimp­IV*,

11/09/2008 00:28:40
Not much to do with the article but...How many column inches did the actions or inaction of the Scottish executive get, before the SNP upgraded it(albeit in name only) to Government?
3

Guga II,

Rockall 11/09/2008 00:37:11
Another New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) press release, courtesy of the Hootsmon and Mad Dox, the Party's chief spokesman.
4

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 11/09/2008 00:59:33
Mad Maddox continues to spout forth his anti-SNP spew. I would not mind so much but it also boring drivel. Whatever happened to wit and intelligence? It is definitely absent in the dross from the Mad Man and his like.
5

Col. Blimp­IV*,

11/09/2008 01:22:08
OK Mr Swinney , here is an acceptable version of PFI that will not require a Quango.

I will with my own money acquire one of those off the shelf £100 limited companies.

Should any Local or Scottish Government body want to build anything.

Just get fixed price tenders for it, if you wish allow a 5% contingency for unforeseen alterations and additions bung it on top.

Give me a contract for a 25yr full repairing lease on the school, hospital, bridge or whatever. Payable monthly at 0.01% above the rate I negotiate with my bank. Write into the contract that at the end of the 25yrs the building is yours.

Seems simple enough to me but will the Unionists have any grounds for declaring it "Illegal" or in some way less cost effective than PFI/PPP?
6

Col. Blimp­IV*,

11/09/2008 01:50:46
#6
Anton Marionette

I think it is the anniversary of The Battle of Stirling Brig.
7

Edward,

11/09/2008 01:50:55
Why are Labour so hell bent on filling the coffers of big business!
Watched Newsnight Scotland lats night, had Andy Kerr on giving it his usual bile. Unsurprisingly ge got in two mentions of Unison being against the SNP plans
What is it with Labour and Unison these days?
Every time some Labour MSP talks about union support they mention Unison. Evry press breifing which mentions 'union support' (for anything) its Unison
8

Col. Blimp­IV*,

11/09/2008 01:55:07
#6

Although the Yanks seem to think that was 11/9/1297.
9

nolimits,

True North 11/09/2008 02:18:37
Could some one explain why is would be illegal to issue bonds to help pay for infrastructure projects? It has been done all over the world with a fair degree of success.
10

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11/09/2008 02:58:45
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11/09/2008 03:57:04
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12

Royster,

11/09/2008 08:31:18
Sounds like a lobby group to me.
13

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 11/09/2008 08:32:53
And the first project to support is the R&D and manufacture and world wide export of submarine turbines that will create more electricity than we can ever use.

The second is to similarly develop solar panels that will work here. In one minute the energy arriving from the sun on earth is the equivalent to all the energy we use in a year.

Let's tap these 'free' fuels. Even SNumptyPs must recognise that truth.
14

Tynietiger,

11/09/2008 08:56:53
Contrast this Mad article with Glasgow Herald's headlines.

Why Grossart's appointment is such a coup for Swinney amd Salmond brings in top financier to run public investment trust.

Future's Trust like problem with LIT merely highlight the lack of powers of the Scottish Government.

These are exacerbated by UK Government's (why can't BBC distinguish between them) withholding of monies to pay for police pensions and from Scotland's share of renewables fund.
15

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

11/09/2008 09:13:58
#1 The problem is though that NPD does not look substantially different from PFI.

#10 They are not illegal as far as I am aware - for example, Dundee City Council financed its £104 million Discovery Education (Dundee) project through a monoline-wrapped bond issue. They are secured index-linked guaranteed bonds, guaranteed by AAA–rated monoline Ambac UK, including £17 million of uncommitted variation bonds, with equity and sub debt of circa £9 million being provided on a pro rata basis by PFI Investors and Robertson Capital Projects.
16

noswod,

Honestus 11/09/2008 09:24:23
Under the funding arrangments between the Scottish Govt and the UK Treasury can the Scottish Govt/Local authorities guarantee bonds ? I don't know about this.

Secondly the Scottish financial mafia i.e the funders of PFI's are rolling out the PR machine to say that Scotland is crumbling without PFI's. The extent of ripoff executed by this group is amazing and needs to be tackled.
17

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 09:26:40
1. Mmm, that will be why the PFI/PPP model is now being copied by many countries around the world - Germany, France, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Norway, Australia, India, Japan, Ireland, New Zealand, Canada, USA........

Ah, but I'm sure YOU know best.

3. Guga II with the exact same post he uses EVERY time there is an article with the temerity to suggest the SNP may, possibly, perhaps be wrong.
18

walter,

11/09/2008 09:26:49
Michael Levack, the chief executive of the Scottish Building Federation, Jenny Stewart, head of public sector for KPMG accountants in Scotland, Ian McPake, partner and chairman at Tods Murray LLP.

Critical of the SNP and their policies (or lack off) they must be Labour supporting Unionist loving Anti SNP Traitor to Scotland each and every one.
Why are they asking for a timetable it will be the same as the timetable for P1,2 and 3 class sizes.

19

Observer, formerly resident,

11/09/2008 09:44:21
General(and 15): Railway infrastructure projects should be high on the list. Not only rapid, widespread electrification (action, not layer upon layer of feasibility studies) but also reinstatement of lines and some new construction to replace what's lost (e.g. the main Edinburgh-Perth line, closed as recently as 1971, now under the M90). I'd even include some 'rural' routes, such as Dunblane-Callander-Crianlarich for their scenic beauty and importance to tourism; what a crass closure and waste!
20

Peter Curran,

Kirkliston 11/09/2008 09:47:58
David Maddox plays down the significance of the appointment of Sir Angus Grossart as chairman, in marked contrast to today's 'Herald', where Douglas Fraser's article is headed "Why Grossart's appointment is such a coup for Swinney".

(I have been harsh in the recent past in my criticism of the 'Herald', but, of late, they really seem to be developing a truly objective view of Scotland's fascinating political scene.)

If a vindication of the choice of Sir Angus were needed, one need look no further than the criticism of him made by those hostile to him in his previous roles in the Scottish Investment Trust and the Royal Bank of Scotland - "He does seem to have an unnecessarily Scottish view of the world."

With enemies like these, who needs friends? Let's hope Sir Angus maintains his "unnecessarily Scottish view of the world".
21

Simon M,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 09:58:00
Disappointed that Christina "£50 billion" McKelvie wasn't wheeled out for the SNP on Newsnight last night, though Alec Neil was little better - he twice referred to "SPT", which last time I checked was Strathclyde Passenger Transport, not a dodgy mechanism for funding public projects.
22

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 09:59:31
22. Again that nat delusion that the SNP are always right and everyone else is always wrong.

A few more countries using the "discredited" PFI/PPP model: Netherlands, Austria, Poland, Greece, Bulgaria, Finland.....

Total number of PFI/PPP projects in Europe by 2007 = 373

Indeed, the SNP must be right on this matter and ALL these countries are wrong.
23

MoClana,

11/09/2008 10:05:11
Breaking story - 4 year old says his dad told him Alex Salmond was a bad man ! - Scotsman publishes the story - headline ' CHILDREN AT THREAT FROM SNP'

.....honestly this stuff just gets boring Mr Maddox. It must really grind you down when you are constantly looking for mud to throw.
24

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:06:46
25. Here's a bit more on PFI/PPP:

The number of PFI projects started in Europe (excl UK)in 2006 was double that in 2005.
25

"Hoots" Fandango,

11/09/2008 10:08:55
"Delays have been caused because the original idea of issuing bonds had to be dropped after it was deemed illegal. "

It wouldn't have been if we were independent.
26

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:12:44
20/22/24/26. And this is the 'argument' put forward by the nats?

Why bother looking for facts when you can just be abusive, eh?

Fantastic.
27

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:13:17
And 29.
28

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:16:31
29. How are those independence polls going for you, Hawkeye?

34%, was it? Down from the recent 40%+ for the referendum question, was it? Nowhere near Salmond's recent claim that "SNP polling suggests support is now around 46%".

Independence is still "inevitable", is it?

Go on, back to your colouring in, young 'un.

LOL.
29

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:20:26
Oops, forgot to add that support for staying in the UK is now UP to 50%.

So, in summary, support for independence is now LOWER than it was before the election.

And support for the UK is now HIGHER than it was before the election.

Ouch!
30

SlyFifer,

Somewhere south of Fife 11/09/2008 10:21:14
Why should issuing of bonds be illegal ?. If the sovereign Scottish government wish to issue bonds to cover major infrastructure projects then it is entirely free to do so. So much of all this unionista nonsense is easily refuted by the actions or otherwise, of the government. The SNP are now in the spotlight and must preform to the satisfaction of the Scottish people to ensure that when the next election comes along the people will be seen to be entirely satisfied with their performance over all aspects of governance in Scotland. If they fail to satisfy then there may well be other independence parties waiting in the wings to fulfill that role.
31

4isbetterthan1,

11/09/2008 10:22:49
#29, Unfortunately, Hawkeye people do care. I am amazed at how you Nat’s dominate these forums yet all you do is criticise the Hootsman. Can all of please explain if it is such bile why do you day after day continue to make comment? Are you all sitting in some local SNP office trawling through websites trying to discredit anything that resembles reality or decent discussion? I have never been so ashamed of being Scottish until the arrival of the SNP government. The vitriolic bile spouted out about how great this wee nation is, conveniently, ignoring the handout culture of all the scummy delinquent work-shy is beyond me. Yes, in places Scotland is beautiful and yes we do have some talented people, but it is nothing like the scale you nationalists spout off about. You’re all a real turn off and full of yourselves. You should have a look at the Australian culture where they are quietly competitive and proud and just get on with the job without vitriol about history, great inventors or hard done by acts from centuries ago. Muppets!
32

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:26:16
35. "OUR little country".....a hideous little slip by the SNP Youth Wing there!

I could have sworn Scotland belonged to us all.
33

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 10:38:33
38. LOL.

"If you aren't pro-independence, you obviously aren't Scottish and have never even been to Scotland."

Grow up, you stupid little child!
34

Jimmy Le Pie,

11/09/2008 10:41:43
Does Andy Kerr ever say anything sensible??
Does Highland Pride ever say anything sensible??

One is as irrelevant as the other.


Vote SNP, the ONLY party for ALL the people of Scotland
35

4isbetterthan1,

Fife 11/09/2008 10:53:40
#41, I was speaking about their attitude, which if you have ever been there you will realise they do not condone hangers on or self-inflated egos like our little fat leader. You will also note that Australia has a Union Jack on their flag too.
36

The Honest Lad,

Musselburgh 11/09/2008 10:59:46
tick tock tick tock
37

Jimmy Le Pie,

11/09/2008 11:32:05
#42

Scotland may join the Commonwealth when we become independent, like Australia did.

That will of course depend on how the separation talks go.

As for a Union Jack in our flag, I don't think so!!
38

4isbetterthan1,

Fife 11/09/2008 12:42:14
#44, here we go again, the old Braveheart routine, it's just brilliant. See while your at it, can you remind yourself of the fact that it was the Scots who Managed the British Empire as it went rampaging across the world and that it has always been Scots who have $hat on their own. It’s just that you lot can’t quite believe it as it bursts that Nationalistic bubble you all live in. When your leader, ‘Wee fat Bob’ is finished trying to create this hysterical reaction to being a member of the UK, it will be all there for you to see. However, the brainwashing that you lot seem to have subjected yourselves too really is beyond belief. You are fanatical like any other form of extremist and it really isn’t healthy for you or your country. I really do wish you could see yourselves, pathetic!
39

Guga II,

Rockall 11/09/2008 13:21:02
#19 Highland Blight.

Why is an Englishman such as yourself so dead set against the SNP? Is it that your Unionist bosses have told you to go on to a site such as this and try and spread Unionist propaganda? If I was you, I'd be spending my time on the Times or Telegraph sites demanding English independence.
40

Guga II,

Rockall 11/09/2008 13:24:01
#42.

It's only a matter of time till the Australians get rid of the Butcher's Apron from their flag. The Eureka Stockade flag would be much more appropriate.
41

Highland Mighty©,

11/09/2008 14:03:40
44. Well done. I think you managed to include ALL the same old tired claims, insults and accusations that the SNP expect you to include in any nat attempt at 'debate'.

Being 'predictable' is not a bad thing and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

50. Keep up. That's been tried already in #38. Nope, it didn't convince anyone then either. Well, no-one with an ounce of intelligence anyway.
42

Jimmy Le Pie,

11/09/2008 14:44:07
#53 Hawkeye

You're dead right.

Highland Mighty made a complete €rse of himself earlier this year, when he was posting as British Pride but spoke of himself as Highland Mighty. His topic of chat was people posting under multiple monikers!!!

Yes a complete €rse and typical New Labour Sleaze apologist.

He has zero ounces of intelligence.

Best ignore the fool.
43

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 11/09/2008 14:55:31
As daft an idea as local income tax.
44

Calvinist,

11/09/2008 15:42:36
SNP= Short-term, Nonsensical, Policies

Is the Teflon cracking?

And what about Jobs for the boys eh?

Why are you so rattled?
45

The Tin Man,

11/09/2008 15:46:28
Why should any public works be delayed whilst the government searches for a few more worthies to populate the board of the 'SFT'? It is not as if the funding mechanisms will change at all.
46

The Tin Man,

11/09/2008 15:50:12
...Man with massive pension from RBS put in charge of funding Scotish public works....

The gravey train rolls on.
47

Miss H,

11/09/2008 16:21:43
Surely the whole PFI/PPP thing is unravelling anyway.

I am sure I read about a change in the rules which means that PFI/PPP projects are no longer allowed to be recorded off-balance.

Is that not why G Brown changed the rules on government borrowing?

And also why NHS trusts down south are looking at putting their PFI-funded hospitals under the control of charitable trusts so they don’t have to put the PFI debt on their balance books. If they put all their PFI debt on the balance book the health trusts would end up in deficit. Of course it means the hospitals are no longer in the NHS but that’s what PFI means anyway isn’t it.
48

Finnzz,

11/09/2008 16:21:54
Clowns like High'n Mighty obviously do not understand just how PFI schemes work. It is short-termism at its most extreme. Proponents of this scam do not care about the ultimate cost of these schemes as they have absolutely no intention of being around when the $**t hits the fan. They just leave it to future governments to clean up. Browns refusal to include the billions of existing PFIs onto the budget is proof of this.
Now the SNP obviously realise this and are planning for the long term, because ? Its in Scotlands interests.
49

The Tin Man,

11/09/2008 16:56:20
#60Finnzz

Please elaborate...
50

Miss H,

11/09/2008 17:02:14
60 But he does have to include the PFI debts now, that is the point. Under new rules they have to be included as part of public borrowing as of next April. That would add £16 billion to the balance sheet of the NHS alone down south - which is why they are trying to off-load their PFI hospitals onto charitable trusts.

So it's the end of PPP/PFI as we have known it, isn't it? Because there is no point if it has to be included on the balance sheet particularly as it is more expensive than traditional borrowing methods.
51

Ewan M,

11/09/2008 17:43:33
Hawkeye the Noo and Jimmy le Pie do your mums know your on the Internet?

Pathetic comments like that embaress Soctland, it suggests we are small minded and blinkered. Support the SNP, but don't embaress Scotland with your extreme rethoric leave that to Salmond and co.
52

brownlie,

11/09/2008 17:57:26
63 Ewan

What is embarrassing is an inability to spell it.

Can you give examples of extreme rhetoric (note spelling) from Salmond?
53

Jimmy Le Pie,

11/09/2008 18:10:55
#63 Ewan

I wish my Mum knew I was on the internet, but she died 20 years ago.

I have faith in the ability of my fellow Scots to govern themselves, building a just society and standing proudly with other free nations.

Your lack of self esteem, self respect,dignity and faith in Scots to run their own affairs, (and ability to spell) is quite pathetic.

You are a sorry individual.
54

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 11/09/2008 19:32:44
It appears that Grossart is no longer interested in this sinecure. Bigger fish to fry. So much for his "genuine interest in Scotland". Disgraceful.
55

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 11/09/2008 19:33:56
62

Miss H (really Mr H), still being paid the minimum wage by the SNP?
56

English Bob,

England 11/09/2008 21:02:02
Please don't come to England. We're full.

57

brownlie,

11/09/2008 21:16:00
68

LOL! What nationality are you, Bob??
58

English Bob,

English 11/09/2008 21:54:51
Three guesses old bean.

Seriously though England is full. It's especially full of proud Scots, Welsh and Irish who can't stand the thought of living in their own countries - yet can't bear the thought that they've actually decided - by the act of choosing to live in England - that they are English.

59

whitegold,

Shire 11/09/2008 22:28:02
Highland Mighty - I'm not sure why you equate criticism of PFIs with support for the SNP. Plenty of criticism has come from sources unconnected with the SNP.

In fact the strongest criticism of PFIs originally came from Blairs New Labour. However when they got into power they then proceeded to forget their criticism and go full steam ahead into them far more than the tories ever did.

PFIs have their uses. One major use was so that risk could be borne by the private sector. But NULabour's implementation has meant that risk is being borne by government (=tax payer), which sort of invalidates any advantages behind PFIs.

Perhaps PFIs are being implemented in a better way in other countries, after all Labours implementation of anything has been pretty disasterous. Our PFIs simply compound debt - attractive to governments in the short term. But like the current debt bubble (which was eagerly pursued by many countries Highland Mighty, since you seem to think that various countries implementing PFIs is somehow a proof of it being a good idea) - it ends in tears.
60

Nebulous,

Aberdeen 11/09/2008 22:28:12
#70 That brings to mind the old quote atributed to the Duke of Wellington.

"If a gentleman happens to be born in a stable, it does not follow that he should be called a horse."

It isn't all one-way traffic you know. We are now in a position where over 10% of the population was born in England. Although many of them do regard themselves as Scots.

 

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