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SNP urge Westminster to guarentee council cash



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Published Date: 10 October 2008
Calls for Westminster to guarantee more than £45 million of council cash in collapsed Icelandic banks were today stepped up by the Scottish Government.
Finance secretary John Swinney urged for Chancellor Alistair Darling to give Scottish councils the same "assurance" given to retail depositors across the UK.

Seven Scots councils have money in troubled Icelandic financial institutions including Landsbanki, Heritable and Glitnir.
North Ayrshire has the biggest investment, with £5 million in Landsbanki and £10 million with Glitnir Bank.

In England, councils have been told by the government that their investments in Icelandic institutions are not being guaranteed as local authorities are in a different position from individual savers.
Senior figures in Scottish local authorities are discussing their Icelandic problems today in Edinburgh.

Mr Swinney told BBC Radio Scotland that Scottish councils had a "significantly lower" level of exposure that local authorities south of the border.

"We have to make sure that we focus on securing the guarantees over
this money," he told Good Morning Scotland.

"That's exactly why I have written to the chancellor to seek his assistance in providing the same assurance to the local authority depositors that has been provided to retail depositors throughout the UK."

Mr Swinney said the Scottish Government was in contact with the affected authorities to establish a complete picture.

"But the focus of what we have to do is to ensure we have the necessary assurance and guarantees in place to support the local authorities whose investments are now in some doubt" he said.

While banking regulation is an area reserved to Westminster, local government finance is devolved.

Mr Swinney insisted: "This has got nothing to do with local authority funding – and everything to do with regulation of financial services."

David Parker, leader of Borders Council, which has £5 million with Landsbanki and £5 million in Heritable, said he was optimistic that the council would eventually get the cash back.

But government help could be needed in a "worst-cast scenario", he told Good Morning Scotland.

"I think there's a realistic possibility that working with the Icelandic authorities and working with the administrators, that this money will come back to Scottish local authorities," he said.

"But in the worst-case scenario, certainly the Treasury needs to look at a similar package for local authorities and other organisations who are affected by this particular crisis, just as they have done for individual savers."

The other Scottish councils affected included South Lanarkshire with £5 million invested with Landsbanki and a further £2.5 million with Heritable.

East Ayrshire said it had identified "potential exposure" of between £3 million and £5 million.

South Ayrshire has £5 million worth of deposits, Moray £2 million and Perth and Kinross £1 million.

Aberdeen City Council said it had no money invested in any Icelandic bank but revealed there was "Landsbanki involvement" in its £120 million project to build or refurbish 10 city schools.

The full article contains 492 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 10 October 2008 12:03 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
1

Joe,

Maxwell Street 10/10/2008 11:44:26
The UK government guarantee Scottish money in a foreign bank?
What planet is Swinney living on..
I suggest he has a go at Iceland?
2

Geoff,

sa 10/10/2008 12:42:59
Where are the usual suspects?
3

Ewan M,

10/10/2008 13:02:35
It's not like the SNP to shout for a popularist policy in an area in which they have no accounatbility, this happens daily.
4

no-name,

Edinburgh 10/10/2008 13:21:09
"Guarentee" Shame on you
5

Calvinist,

10/10/2008 13:25:34
Swinney wants his cake and eat it. Either he takes responsibility for local government finance or Salmond should sack him and appoint someone who does. This is disingenuous sophistry of the worst kind. If Scotland was independent it would be bankrupt like Iceland and Swinney and co know it.
6

New Town Resident,

10/10/2008 14:43:55
- assuming there is any bail out of LG then it depends on where the money comes from.

a. if from the UK Treasury contiguency reserve then Swinney is right and he'll automatically get it

b. if deducted from existing LG funding (more likely?) then sorry mate, but its down to Swinney in Scotland.

to be fair to Swinney I'd rewrite the article and say he's aguing the bail out should be from UK reserves.

personally i'd give LG nothing at all and prioritise charities. guess its more awkward in Scotland because of the freeze.



7

steve52,

Kinfauns 10/10/2008 15:37:42
Yet another fine example of The Scotsmans bias.....no where in the article does it mention that the councils were all advised to place their money in these banks by the Westminster Government.

So here we have the unionists shouting about the SNP when it was their parties that gave this disasterous advice.

Talk about good bed partners, the Scotsman and the Unionists again misinforming the Scottish public.
8

New Town Resident,

10/10/2008 15:57:11
#8. Actually i think you are the one who is misinforming? Surely Prescott only had the right to advise E&W councils. Its up to the Scottish Government to advise Scottish Councils under its devolved powers.
9

Rufus T. Firefly,

10/10/2008 16:28:47
If we had adopted the Norwegian Model, none of this would have happened.
10

Rufus T. Firefly,

10/10/2008 16:30:57
What posters need to remember on here is that according to the Nats;

Unionist = Traitor

There are no ifs or buts about it.

It is impossible to want to remain in the union and to have Scotland's best interests at heart.
11

Marian,

10/10/2008 17:04:48
According to the BBC website:-

"The government was warned about the possible collapse of Icelandic banks in July but did nothing about it, a Lib Dem Treasury spokesman has said.

Lord Oakeshott said he raised the issue in a written question to a minister.

He was told the Financial Services Authority was monitoring the situation and there was no cause for concern.

"Alarm bells were ringing all over about the Icelandic banks and the Treasury must have been blind and deaf not to hear them," said the peer."
12

vimto,

10/10/2008 17:24:15
6. GO BOIL YER HEID!
13

Conan the Librarian™,

10/10/2008 17:43:52
13
You must be the fizzy version, for you are certainly not cordial.
14

Rufus T. Firefly,

10/10/2008 18:01:17
#6 Fed Up what is this nonsense?

"If Scotland was independent, we'd save our sinking ship on our own terms, not someone else's. But seeing as people like you are lacking the wherewithawl, the guts, the pride, whatever it takes, we just have to sit around making noises while the whole thing remains out of our hands."

What a ridiculous diatribe.

Yeah if we were independent we would save our sinking ship.

Of course we would.

Keep on taking the tablets.

15

vimto,

10/10/2008 18:09:14
15. You seem to have delusions of granduer,scotland could do bu==er all,you have neither the finances or the influence!
16

Rufus T. Firefly,

10/10/2008 18:18:08
Exactly Vimto.

FedUp is a weirdo, he has numerous signons, so prepare to be abused from various different people that all have the same poor grammatical style.
17

Rufus T. Firefly,

10/10/2008 18:52:16
So the Diddy parliament wants UK taxpayers to pay for Scottish councils mismanagement?

Not even a hint of a red face either!

18

Daibhid C,

Invenress 10/10/2008 19:23:21
#11:

Not only do the Nationalists believe "Unionist = traitor", but also "In any way critical of the SNP = Unionist". I personally am rather ambivelant about independence; the main point I have against it is the thought of giving Salmond and Co. more power...
19

vimto,

10/10/2008 19:26:05
18. And the union is fed up of numpties like you who think they know it all,but in reality know nowt!
20

ThomasP,

10/10/2008 19:32:14
Darling should guarantee Scottish councils, as he has done with the other councils. If Westminister will borrow the money to guarantee English councils then they should also do the same for the other councils.

This is a typical example how the Scots Parliament is unable to react to certain problems.
21

Son of one of Stirlings finest,

Weston S Mare 10/10/2008 20:30:13
11# Rufus T Firefly,
Well said my man, you have encapsulated in a few words the the nastiness and bigotry that is addressed at anyone who cares about the UK . I live in England, but want to see Scotland prosper. If it is the settled will of the Scottish people to choose independence, no one could prevent it becoming a reality. However , like you I will support the legitimate right of Scots Unionists to argue their case without being branded traitors or Westminster lackeys.
22

vimto,

10/10/2008 20:41:15
Free speech for all unionist supporters,the natz will never stop that.
23

Son of one of Stirlings finest,

Weston Super Mare 10/10/2008 20:52:21
Hello Vimto,
Were on a roll,free speech to Unionists and Nationalists . Let the people decide their own future, and what democratic course they take must be respected by Nats and Unionists alike, with good heart, and work to secure a future where people on this flyspeck Island can get on with each other.
24

vimto,

10/10/2008 21:46:53
27. Absolutely,I just hope the natz feel the same way.
25

morris,

Edinburgh 10/10/2008 23:22:12
English councils also have money invested in Icelandic banks,as far as I know,and if Scotland is refused then the same must happen down south.WE shall see what happens,but there is no excuse for Westminster treating local authorities any differently to banks on both sides of the Tweed.

The capacity for Unionists to spout utter nonsense as they have done, and gloat over anything which might befall their fellow Scots, never fails to amaze me. We should all be trying to help our fellow countrymen as much as possible.This will affect all of us to some degree !

The truth is that in the global economy that we all live in, Scotland being independent or not as the case may be, would have made no difference whatsoever, and how anybody could think it would is beyond me. The problems that Bank of Scotland experienced were largely of their own manufacture and came about because of their so called merger which was in fact a take over by the Halifax BS. This was certainly not needed by Bank of Scotland and was plain and simply bad management.

The way out of this mess is what we must find,for everybody,and I'm glad the Unionists are no longer as prominent in Scotland when you see what poisonous crud comes out of them.
To gloat as many of you are, disgusts beyond measure!
26

Son of one of Stirlings finest,

Weston Super Mare 10/10/2008 23:57:42
Dear Morris 30#
Cant you get your head round the recrimination of who did what to whom. The issue for all of us is how to secure a better future for generations to come. The bottom line is that we all pee in the same pot.If tomorrow we all wake up and have the scales lifted from our eyes, and pull in one direction , we can achieve so much.
27

DaibhidC,

31/10/2008 14:29:57
19, I don't think I know it all; in fact, I'm well aware I know virtually nothing, except that I don't trust the Nats. I genuinely have no idea whether independence is a good idea or not, but anything that gives the SNP more power is clearly a bad idea.

I expected my comments would rouse the ire of Fed Up, I didn't expect an attack from the Unionist side!

 

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