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Two years ago no-one wanted to know…now SNP conference is the biggest show in town



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Published Date: 15 October 2008
TWICE as many exhibitors, lobbyists, trade unions and journalists are due to attend this year's SNP conference than came to the event the last time it was held in Perth two years ago, The Scotsman has learned.
The effect of being in government has turned the SNP conference from the largely social gathering of Nationalists that it used to be into a "must attend" event for anyone wanting to influence public policy in Scotland.

Coca Cola, the global drinks giant, will be at the conference for the first time, reflecting the increased interest in the SNP from worldwide corporations.

The Fire Brigades Union will also have an official presence in the exhibitors hall for the first time. Previously the union had only sent representatives to the conference as observers.

This is a reflection of the SNP's influence as the party of government as well as unease in some unions over the Labour Party.

Roddy Robertson, executive council member for the FBU in Scotland, said his union had stopped its affiliation with Labour in 2003 and was not now affiliated to any political party.

He said the union wanted to be at the conferences of all the political parties and was not biased in favour of or against any.

"We want to come to as many of these major political conferences as we can to lobby on behalf of our members in the fire service," he said.

There are also charities, like Psoriasis Scotland, and lobbying groups like the Scottish Countryside Alliance, who have paid to take exhibition space for the first time.

A spokesman for the National Landlords Association, which will be at the conference for the first time, said: "You have to be in it to win it. You have to be at these events to meet the people who make the decisions in Scotland."

There will be 64 exhibition stalls at the Perth Royal Concert Hall, up from 22 in 2006. There will be 240 exhibitors this year, an increase of 100 on the number there in 2006 and there will be 220 members of the media, up from the 100 who covered the conference two years ago.

There will also be twice as many observers this year – 150 – as the 75 who were at the same venue in 2006.

As far as the SNP delegates are concerned, their numbers are limited by the size of the hall. It is one of the biggest conference venues in Scotland and can hold 1,200 people seated or 1,600 standing.

There were 1,200 delegates at the conference in Perth in 2006 and there will be 200 more this year, taking the total to 1,400.

This is probably the maximum number the conference, which starts tomorrow, could take and, even then, there may be some who will not get into the hall for the First Minister's keynote speech on Sunday.

Angus Robertson, the SNP business convener, said: "It is fantastic to be returning to Perth, two years after the SNP set out our electoral ambitions for 2007 and many of the ideas that have now become popular policies of the SNP government."

And he added: "Interest in SNP conference from a wide range of media and organisations continues to grow as the performance of the SNP in government continues to win the support of people in Scotland.

"Increasing numbers of delegates, organisations and media reflect our increased membership and the continued public support for the SNP this year's annual conference in Perth is a major part of Scotland's political calendar."

Kilts, sandals and raffles out, smart suits in

ONLY a few years ago, the SNP conference attracted only diehard Nationalists.

There were always a number of delegates in kilts and beards – sometimes with sandals and Bannockburn T-shirts too – who appeared to have come down from the Highlands just for this one event.

There were few sponsors, hardly any observers or members of the press, and the exhibition hall resembled a school fête, with local parties raffling bottles of whisky, rather than a fully fledged party conference.

Now, though, all that has changed. There are many more young people there, dressed in the same sort of smart dark suits that used to be seen at Labour conferences in the late 1990s.

There are also international corporations and dozens of lobbyists, with organisations sending their most powerful figures to an event they ignored just a few years ago.

WHO'S WHO

Among the firms and organisations taking stands at the conference for the first time are:

• COCA-COLA: One of the world's most iconic brands, this global giant is the embodiment of corporate America.

• NATIONAL LANDLORDS ASSOCIATION: The national lobbying organisation for landlords, it recently opened an office in Scotland.

• FIRE BRIGADES UNION: This union used to be affiliated to Labour, but not any more. It is at conference to lobby for the conditions of its members.

• DIGITAL UK: It is leading the UK's switch to digital TV and provides independent advice for viewers.

• SCOTTISH COUNTRYSIDE ALLIANCE: The lobbying arm of rural interests, the SCA wants to ensure it has an input in the Scottish Government's rural policies.

• PSORIASIS SCOTLAND: Charity for psoriasis sufferers wants to influence policy.

The full article contains 892 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 14 October 2008 11:46 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
1

Jwil,

15/10/2008 00:06:17
A bit of good news at last.
2

slap-dash,

Border Patrol 15/10/2008 00:12:28
Och a wis gonnae wear ma kilt an awe , , , , , , , , , , , better look oot the auld weddin and funeral suit then :-(
3

Boy Wonder,

15/10/2008 00:21:09
The worm always turns!!!
4

truthsleuth,

15/10/2008 00:41:50
Are they there to celebrate or mourn the success? of the SNP.
5

somerferg,

perth 15/10/2008 02:02:13

Usual nasty petty minded reporting style Hambo - you really should get out more - the bile in your reporting must be doing you some harm.
6

You can stick your independence up your a***!!,

15/10/2008 02:21:17
Just don't mention Iceland . . .
7

Robbie 2,

NZ 15/10/2008 02:52:54
6 You can stick your independence up your a***!!,
“Just don't mention Iceland .”

Nor, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria, Belgium, Sweden and Finland, New Zealand.
8

An Beal Bacht,

15/10/2008 02:55:18
6 - Norway.

Blarney, Edinburgh on 12:59am today
Noticed certain unionists are now not mentioning Norway in it's "arc of insolvency", too easy a lie to dissprove.
Norway has a population of 4.9 million, similar natural resourses to us, less oil than us.
Here are some of the shocking figures from Norway this week after the battering it has taken from this world economic collapse.
Unemployment at 2%.
Inflation at 3.1% highest since 1988, up from 2.8% in Sept.
GDP up 0.6% every quarter this year.
Oil fund at $ 400 billion, forecast to $600 billion by 2011
sadly though the fund has only increased 2.4% in the last quarter due to global financial problems and is it's worst growth ever.
Main interest rate at 5.75%, possible cut coming.
Construction rate is up.
Manufacturing remains strong
Services only up slightly
Government to increase public spending over the next 12 months, areas to be targeted using it's oil wealth are health, education, research and environmental projects.
Yep they are pretty well buggered, I wouldn't be surprised if they go bankrupt very soon with the state it's in.
So, will someone please tell Norway they are broke and should get quickly back into a Union with Sweden, who incidentally is very small and is also great, thank you very much.
Brown = Lying bufoon who presided over our economy for 12 years and got us in this mess,
Brown = Horses rear end who thinks everything is fine and we don't mind that he has plunged us all into even more debt, over 16,000 each, what a clever chap he is, round of applause for that man, glad to see him genuinly smile for a change he deserves all our thanks.
9

SNP hypocrisy,

15/10/2008 04:12:46
8. Norway? Do you mean the same Norway that has asked the US Federal Reserve for a loan of $5 Billion US Dollars in order to get them out of the recession?

Thankfully the Union has saved our erchies. Thank you England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Together we are stronger, safer and still making it in the world.
10

democracy,

Scottish Borders 15/10/2008 04:27:26
#9 SNP hypocrisy, Do you mean the loan that Norway could pay back 80 fold!

"Thankfully the Union has saved our erchies" you say?
None of which the UK can afford thanks to Brown!!

What a silly prat you are!!
11

Blarney,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 04:32:22
Yes that's the same Norway, earns more intrest on it's own money than it is to borrow.
The same Norway that's chucking £170 million to Iceland, because they have lot's of cash, check it out numpty, evrything is fine over here in Norway and they are mighty peeved at allegations to the contrary.
The facts are available for all too see just go and look and don't listen to the spin, sorry lies, that unionists are trying to force feed you.
12

democracy,

Scottish Borders 15/10/2008 04:43:34
Incapability Brown thinks the Union has saved Scotland!


No Brown, wrong yet again, the Union is helping to destroy Scotland, and the quicker the Scottish people rid themselves of your kind the better, before it is too late!!!
13

democracy,

Scottish Borders 15/10/2008 05:00:25
#6 You can stick your independence up your a***!!,

Scotland is 20 times the size of Iceland and a financial sector centuries ahead of Iceland and one of the main financial players in Europe.

But hey! I always make allowances for stupid little inferior Unionists who prefer to deride their own country and are more to be pitied than ridiculed......but hey! I prefer ridiculing!!
14

donald,

glasgow 15/10/2008 05:56:54
Hope someone other than Hammy will give a proper report on the Conference. He'd rather be in London than Perth.
15

The Spook in Leith,

15/10/2008 06:35:36
"Coca Cola, the global drinks giant, will be at the conference for the first time, reflecting the increased interest in the SNP from worldwide corporations"

Eh?? Only a few weeks ago this downmarket rag tail ragga muffin toilet paper was dribbling on about some pro union numpty saying the USA would not do business with an independent Scotland!! Now a few weeks later one of the worlds most iconic brands is visiting the SNP conference, bloody bizzar..

BTW i hate Coca Cola coz everytime i drink the stuff i get a spot on the end of my nose.
16

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 15/10/2008 07:41:40
I always look forward to this. It's the best comedy show of the year.
17

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 15/10/2008 07:42:41
15

Sure it's not a plook, Spook?
18

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 15/10/2008 07:44:22
Does anyone know what has happened to Alex Salmond?
19

izzie,

dundee 15/10/2008 07:46:41
What do you mean 'happened'?
20

4isbetterthan1,

Fife 15/10/2008 08:27:53
#9 & #10, I am keen to understand why would Norway request a $5billion loan from the American federal reserve, given that America is in financial melt down, if they have a £400billion surplus? It doesn't make sense! Also, I can just imagine my fellow Scots paying £10 a pint. How much is a bottle of Buckie these days?
21

aljok.23,

the world 15/10/2008 08:55:52
Independence entirely for Scotland while bridging The Tweed with oustretched hand, thank you very much.
22

Guga II,

Rockall 15/10/2008 09:10:02
#21.

I'd rather rebuild Hadrian's wall.
23

Number 6,

Germany 15/10/2008 09:16:05
Right up to election day meltdown, the unionistas will keep up this pathetic pooh poohing of all things Scottish. They will be left humiliated by Liebour's utter destruction North of the Border. The other unionista cabal members are too ridiculous to bother with.

Let them laugh and sneer, it's the reaction of paralysing fear. They know they no longer have the Scots automatic consent. They also know the SNP have left them in their slipsteam and are continuing to do so.

Like the republicans in America, they are in a state of extreme denial, over the future of their "union" with their englandshire "betters". They are forced to defend Liebour and it's mass of incompitent and corrupt MPs. God how it must hurt.

Oh well, a succesfull conference will be reflected by a further increase in SNP support. To such an extent, that even the most rapid of unionista will realise the game is well and truly up.

Time to put your names down for one of those shiny new houses being built for the englandshire Olympics, although don't expect any kind of welcome from your
english betters. The last thing they will want is a bunch of whinging scottish unionistas in their communities.

Northern Ireland anyone ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .

24

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

15/10/2008 09:20:11
The annual gathering of the arrogant "whaes like us" brigade begins again. A splendid advert for why nationalism is one of the nastiest political ideals around.
25

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 15/10/2008 09:23:10
Let the Scottish Numpty Party have its day in the sun.

Giving it enough rope will ensure that it hangs itself.

Never forget that the X in the SNP Saltire is for Xenophobe.

Never forget that the ONLY real alternative to Union is Federation.
26

John S,

15/10/2008 09:47:24
#9: Did Norway borrow $5 billion or was it a temporary 'swap' arrangement where the US Federal Reserve supplied dollars ($30 billion) to the central banks of Australia ($10 billion) Denmark ($5 billion),Norway ($5 billion) and Sweden ($10 billion) in exchange for their currencies ? Sep 24, 2008

27

Number 6,

Germany 15/10/2008 09:54:10
24 /25 Dry your eyes gentlemen. The pain will soon be over, then you can emigrate to englandshire as clearly, you could not contemplate standing on your own two feet . How weak and frightend you must feel.
28

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 10:09:16
#27 I notice you have moved to Germany. I suggest you try telling some Germans the virtues of nationaalism and see what their response is.
29

Number 6,

Germany 15/10/2008 10:26:10
#28 fairly predictable on these forums. When you have lost an argument, turn on the Germans, and show your pig ignorance by equating German and Scottish nationalism .
30

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

15/10/2008 10:35:00
#29 lost an argument! don't make me laugh. I will say something - your nasty insults and insufferable arrogance are a splendid example of why nationalism is so disliked by the majority of people.
31

Mikey,

15/10/2008 10:40:15
#29. that'll be with the exception of Brit nationalism, of course.....
32

Mikey,

15/10/2008 10:40:51
Sorry, that should've been #30....
33

Number 6,

Germany 15/10/2008 11:11:00
#30 of course you have lost the argument , hence your defaulting to insulting the Germans. typical british zenephobic attitude. You say nationalism is disliked by so many people.

What on earth do you mean by that ?. Are you seriousley suggesting that self determination is not what the majority of people, regardless in which country they live, don't want to determine their country's own future.

Your ignorance in trying to equate Nationalism with what we are trying to achieve in Scotland demonstrates
not only your lack of self -worth, but your total lack ogf confidence in your fellow scots abilities. Clearly your Liebour handler got you to swallow their scare tactics, hook line and sinker.
Let's have a sing song : come on now all you unionistas, this one's for you :

"WE CANNAE DAE IT ON OOR OWN"
"WE CANNAE DAE IT ON OOR OWN"
"WE CANNAE DAE IT ON OOR OWN" NO NO NO.

REPEAT AD NAUSEAM.
34

Steve,

Bo'ness 15/10/2008 11:16:52
These are the same "unionists" who are currently slating the Irish, Norwegian and Icelandic economies. The same people who lauched us into a war obliterating thousands of civilians in Iraq. The same unionists who hail the mighty British empire, which crushed freedom and stole resources in every part of the world. With a leader who wants a union jack in every garden and a UK football team!!!

And they have the cheek to accuse the SNP of xenophobia, because they have the audacity to beleive Scotland can run itself.

You've got to laugh.

35

Number 6,

Germany 15/10/2008 11:24:51
#34 Your right Steve. it would be hilarious if it wasn't so insulting .
36

JCA REID,

Annan 15/10/2008 11:28:10
Re. these attacks on Scottish 'Nationalism'. It is NOT Xenophobic, Racist, or denigrating other peoples nationality. It is simply wanting to be in control of our National Destiny. It is the Anglo-British model that is xenophobic & racist.
This 300year Union has given Scotland over 500years of war, our assets are ruined & stripped. Recently another factory was shifted out of Scotland to the Isle of Wight. Why not go there in the first place? & another 800 job loss is forecast for East Kilbride.The English wouldn't like to have a small neighbouring country doing better than they as it would offend their innate sense of superiority in all matters. Economist after economist state that Scotland would make a good go of it. Just look at the Scandanavian Countries. Perhaps little ol' Denmark best pack it in & ask Germany to take over & run things!
It would be interesting in the near future if after Scottish Parliament Elections & General Elections, the SNP become the majority party in Scotland....would Westminster grant us our Independence?
Check out you tube & read hear Gordon Brown's speech ADVOCATING Independence!
37

Brian the Barbarian.,

GRANTO FOR BNP 15/10/2008 11:47:03

How come the Glasgow MUSLIM STUDIES GROUP, you know, the one with terrorist links, are not there to beg £400,000.00 of taxpayers money,

OOPS I forgot, the SNP have already given them the money. And to think that I had to go private and pay £9000.00 to get an artificial knee for my mother who is 82 as there is no money in the NHS.
Nice to see that my taxes are being wasted in a good cause.
38

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

15/10/2008 11:55:53
For someone who calls other people ignorant, I see you need a history lesson. Nationalism following the first world war in Germany led to the nazis' gaining power. In Ireland Nationalism led to one group of nationalists fighting each other because they weren't pure enough nationalists. How many people died in these events and many others, because of people's belief in nationalism? Millions.
Nationalism is a political belief that appeals to weak minded individuals who feel that they are more important than others because of where they were born.
39

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

15/10/2008 11:58:01
#41 post was exclusively for #33
40

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 11:58:07
It is the duty of the Westminster Parliament to preserve the constitutional integrity of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

However, the democratic right for any people, region, territory, or stateless nation to seek sovereignty, is enshrined in the United Nations Charter!

Scotland is no different from the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh,
South Africa, Ireland, and a multitude of other nations which have become independent, sovereign states.

Since time immemorial, dynastic, military, political and economic alliances and unions have come and gone with the ebb and flow of history and, as the seccession of the Irish Free State has proved, this unitary state
is no different!
41

Brian Hill,

15/10/2008 12:08:10
"....everytime i drink the stuff i get a spot on the end of my nose."
Bless you for sharing Spook in Leith, you have enriched us all.lol

Another 'fair to the SNP' article from the Scotsman on top of the veritable pro Scottish front page today.

Are we going to have to reassess our attitude to this once great paper?

Believe me I can't tell you how many tens of thousands of us would love to be able to say once again that the Scotsman 'is our paper', taking a lead on our behalf, in this case to save 'The Bank' we all love.
42

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15/10/2008 13:10:14
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43

JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh, Scotland 15/10/2008 13:12:26
Dr David Stevenson constantly wears a kilt and still does so today. The fact the Scotsman has a picture of him from two years ago does not give any indication of the types of delegates in the SNP then and now, apart from the obvious, that all are Scots patriots.

The SNP has always held extremely interesting conferences with a wide range of people wearing different clothing. There has always been a large part of them in a suit and tie at every conference I have ever attended, and I've been to a few (since 1987).

The fact there are more lobbyists now shows that the party has grown in stature since gaining power within the devolved parliament but activists decisions to join the SNP are based on one thing and one thing only:

The belief in Scotland's democratic ability to run our own affairs.
44

Arfur,

15/10/2008 13:22:51
9 SNP hypocrisy - idiot.

16 W U Merchant - no mate, you thinking you post sence is.

45

Rufus T. Firefly,

15/10/2008 14:24:23
I wonder if Mary Queen of Scots Bones will be repatriated in time for the conference?

Just think what a coup that would be!
46

Joe McLaine,

15/10/2008 15:13:13
Rufus T Firefly:

Did you mean "Just think what a SOUP that wold be."

A kind of Royal Stewart Scots Broth......
47

frank mcbride,

lusitania 15/10/2008 15:39:07
#41, Ronaldo.

I presume your "ism" of choice is USUcK Imperialism.

That is benevolent and non-violent, isn't it?

#48, Rufus.

Are you really a dog, searching for the bone you buried in yon rubbish dump, or should that be cowp?
48

57vintage,

Keith 15/10/2008 16:49:11
#23 "the unionistas will keep up this pathetic pooh poohing of all things Scottish"

Not all things Scottish, just the SNP and its brown-nosing full-time trolls on this and other forums.

Anyway, I don't regard myself as a unionist - I'm a trade unionist, certainly, but otherwise an internationalist.

VERY left-leaning to want to abandon workers in the rest of the UK by demanding control of the can of WD40 that still exists under the North Sea. Sounds more like the survival of the fittest exponded by Thatcher and her cronies with whom, of course, the Nats voted in 1979.....
49

malcolmcean,

15/10/2008 18:33:43
Vintage@57:

You are an internationalist? Why on earth are you not demanding that Scotland leave the uber-isolationist UK to join the EU?

You would then be in a position of being able to enter a political environment where social democracies abound - and you would be able to actively involve yourself in the politics of making sure that your trade union princple reach over 700 million people; not simply the 60 million in the UK.

I doubt that you would actively consider this, though. As your last paragraph reveals, your internationalist credentials really only extend to banging any drum which is in tune with the symphony espoused by New Labour headquarters (all the buzz words are there - all the right notes are struck).

If feel sorry for you that you feel the need to lie in order to get your message across.

The means do not justify the ends - something which Duncan in Edinburgh (another people on here who daily disembles for the Labour party) has problems understanding.
50

malcolmcean,

15/10/2008 18:34:02
Sorry, that should be: the ends do not justify the means.
51

HEN BROON 15,

15/10/2008 18:55:59
#40: come again, Ducan! How many times do you have to be told that you and your culty belief system is about as welcome as the plague? Get the message?
52

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 15/10/2008 19:07:43
Well SNP Conference, vibrant forward looking Political Party with policies relevent to the people of Scotland. Labour er have they got any policies apart from being Anti-Scottish
53

The_Reiver,

15/10/2008 20:58:24
Coca Cola, the global drinks giant, will be at the conference for the first time, WOW!

NATIONAL LANDLORDS ASSOCIATION: The national lobbying organisation for landlords, it recently opened an office in Scotland. NO KIDDING!

SCOTTISH COUNTRYSIDE ALLIANCE: The lobbying arm of rural interests, the SCA wants to ensure it has an input in the Scottish Government's rural policies. WHAT EVEN THEM!

This gives me such confidence in my future. I'm so proud to be a Scot!

And for all you Pseudo-gaelic speakers like #8: Sugh mo bhod



54

Liberal for life,

Dunblane 15/10/2008 22:40:53
I suspect all these attendees were booked long before the recent events demonstrate the harsh reality that shows what a spent force nationalism really is.

You can fool some of the people all of the time but eventually the majority do waken up again.
55

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16/10/2008 00:43:03
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 16/10/2008 09:09:17
As the Unionist parties watch their active membership dwindle and age, the SNP goes from strength to strength just like Scotland will when we regain full independence.

The Unionists on this board will find all this hard to understand as they spend their life trying to convince others that the SNP is a spent force.

Canute and waves come to mind!
57

Alan Reid,

Warington 16/10/2008 23:47:14
8 An Beal Bacht, Very well put sir.
9 SNP hypocrisy, Eat my shorts, Unionist dork.

 

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