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Overcrowded jails 'close to danger point'



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Published Date: 24 April 2008
MEASURING just 13ft by 8ft, the tiny room was built to house one or maybe two prisoners at the turn of the 20th century.
Today, the cramped space, with the addition of a toilet and small sink, is still being shared by two inmates. Occasionally a mattress is put on the concrete floor to accommodate a third.

Men can spend 22 hours a day here, locked up together, even
at meal times when the absence of a table has them balancing trays of food on their knees.

Inverness Prison is the smallest of Scotland's 16 jails, but is regularly among the top three in the overcrowding league.

It is regarded as safe, but Dr Andrew McLellan, chief inspector of prisons, questioned how long that situation could remain at Inverness and across the country, given the increasing pressure of overcrowding.

Dr McLellan made the first unannounced prison visit in November to Inverness, designed to hold 104 but with a prisoner population of 148.

In his report, published today, he says three prisoners sometimes have to share a cell and others have been locked in rooms without natural light or ventilation.

"It is not possible for the prison to provide decent living conditions when it is required to hold so many prisoners, but even with lower numbers some of the living accommodation could never be acceptable," he said.

Dr McLellan said overcrowding was a national problem, with 8,000 prisoners now packed into jails, and a "dangerous position" was ever nearer.

"The problem is as intense and destructive in Inverness Prison as anywhere in the country," he said. "We are much nearer really dangerous positions in our prisons. I cannot predict if it's going to be next week or next month, but I feel much less confident and sure than I did even a year ago that safety will continue."

Eric Fairbairn, the Inverness governor, said: "If the courts continue to send prisoners to me, I need to continue to hold them."

Prison building 'not enough'

THREE new jails are planned in Scotland. Addiewell in West Lothian is under construction, Bishopbriggs is going out to tender and Peterhead is at the planning stage.

But new buildings alone are not the solution, says Scotland's prisons chief. On one night recently the national prison population increased by 1 per cent – 80 inmates. If that rate was to continue, 26 new prisons would be needed in a year, said Dr Andrew McLellan, Scotland's chief inspector of prisons. He added: "We need to find better ways of punishing those who commit relatively minor crimes."





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  • Last Updated: 23 April 2008 9:32 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish prisons
 
1

Proximaking,

Dundee 24/04/2008 07:32:46
My ex-wife works in a very large prison in Scotland. The prisoners have rooms big enough for four people but invariably are put in one to a cell, they have colour TV, ciggies, radios etc in their rooms, they don't have to work or retrain if they don't want to, they have weekly visits from family (to bring the drugs in) and so on. I worked offshore on and off over the years and in the same space we had four adults sharing sleeping accomodation. If it is ok for an offshore oil worker why is it not ok for a thief or a murderer to share a room with three other people? Why do those who pay for everything in this society always get the rough end of the stick. This can't be allowed to continue. If you can't do the time don't do the crime. Ban tvs now, ban ciggies now, ban radios now, and jam them in 20 to a room. The wife of "The Godfather" who was caught last year in Leeds was asked about her time in British prisons and Italian prisons and she said British prisons, she's British, were like palaces compared to the Italian ones. So if the Italians can operate a tough regime under European human rights legislation why can't we? Out of touch judges in this country, .... pure and simple. It is not a human right to have a tv, radio or fags, give them newspapers to read instead and they may learn something during their time inside. Incidentally the prison officers and support staff are outraged at the facilities these thugs get, and expect to get, and they want all of these soft options removed now, not next year NOW! Prison should be punishment first then rehabilitation and with more people squeezed in and put on chain gangs to work we would pay a lot less per head to keep these "disadvantaged" thugs where they belong behind bars. And to prevent them getting into trouble in the first place bring back public shaming by use of the stocks, let's see them laugh in court after a good pelting with something the pigs wouldn't eat. llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
2

steve 1511,

aberdeen 24/04/2008 07:51:51
strip the cells and the jails of all the tellies games pool tables etc ,and stack the bunks to the ceiling at least 4 to a cell.this will resolve the problem at once, and i am sure the majority od scots will agree with me
3

Biker,

Ayr 24/04/2008 09:21:48
Just up the road from where I currently live is the terrible Bowhouse Prison. Overcrowded by 30% and recently the venue for a murder. Up until recently it was also understaffed . Prisons are a disgrace with many people locked up who should not be there. Being a "private" prison one wonders whether the overcrowding is purposfull to raise more finance.
I dont dissagree with Proximating or Steve but we have to make our mind up what prisons are for. Are they for exacting judicial revenge or are they a failed attempt at re education?
4

Number 6,

Germany 24/04/2008 09:48:28
Sorry but is society supposed to feel sympathy for prisoners. These conditions should help focus the mind
and show these people crime is not always a good idea.

Prisons are there to punish. Rehabilitation ? I don't see the connection with prisons. After their sentence has been served , and assuming they have behaved themselves behind bars , and are now free, then rehab should be considered. Stop treating these people as victims, thats the people they rob, beat , rape, kill,
abuse, cheat, terrify etc etc.
5

JayDeeTee,

24/04/2008 09:49:49
#1 & 2. The trouble is the establishment is frightened of what would happen if these prisoners didn't get their "rights". They simply couldn't handle the problems of rioting etc etc if prisoners didn't get their wee priviledges so have taken the soft option instead. It's endemic throughout Britain. Almost everybody backs off from the bad guys, rarely challenges them and the result is they do what they want. We are too soft and these politically correct people are to blame for this in the first place.
6

Phil C,

24/04/2008 10:13:05
I've long advocated a two tier prison system, operating on three strikes and you're out. First port of call (apart from the really bad 'uns) is a prison like the current cushy ones, with one to a cell, televisions, decent food etc. There would be an opportunity to train and work for privileges. Get sent back after release and you get the same but you spend some time in the 'bad' 3rd strike prisons as a warning. Then three strikes and you're out. Pack the cells and lock the doors, gruel, forced labour etc.

OK there's a bit to work on and I'm sure the softies who parade as human rights activists might have something to say, but we need to break the cycle.
7

Mikey,

24/04/2008 11:28:42
Since going to prison is a life choice, should anybody really care what happens in them?
8

TheLightAtTheEnd,

24/04/2008 14:14:37
you see, the problem is - society doesn`t really encourage integration back into the community once they are out. A criminal record is a life sentence - why would anyone who has already served time for their offence have sympathy for a society that will continue to judge them after they have lost so much?
9

Royalty,

Summerston 24/04/2008 14:29:49
Prison ships stationed off the remote Western Isles is the answer.

I doubt if these criminals would be so happy banged up
24/7 with only their seas sickness for company.

I doubt theyd be so keen to return to prison 7 the chance of escape would be zero.

Its time for radical action.
10

Colin R,

Bearsden 24/04/2008 14:30:15
why don't victims get a say in state of jails- that is their right under the law but Elish and Kenny and Cathy prefer to let Social workers decide
11

John Blackley,

Florida 24/04/2008 18:43:30
So we've got "lawmakers" - full-time politicians (notice I don't use words like 'skilled' or 'professional' as adjectives), part-time politicians and the whole army of faceless rulemakers all beavering away making more and more laws (because, if they stopped, people might start to question their usefullness). We've got a growing population. If one paused for a moment to think, one might think one consequence of those two facts would be a need for more prison places. Sadly, while they're capable of battering out new laws by the hundredweight, our politicians seem incapable of pausing or of thought.

Of course there is the southern United States' option: Build the criminals a nice camp with lots and lots of razor wire and lots of unfriendly guards with guns. Heavens, we even let the crims dig themselves latrines for their comfort. Of course, in Scottish weather such camps might be more of a deterrent than the current accomodations and we can't have that, can we?
12

why can't I use my own name???,

musselburgh 25/04/2008 10:38:41
Bring back the prison hulks! And Inchkeith would make a fine Scottish Alcatraz!
13

Biker,

Ayr 27/04/2008 19:35:27
No6. I dont say that we should feel sympathy for prisoners, after all they have put themselves in the position in the first place (assuming they are in fact guilty). But consider, if you lock a petty criminal up for 23 hours a day alongside a career one, whats the chances of the petty one being rehabilitated?
As can be seen from the whitewash of the other week at Bowhouse, at present there are NO guidlines .

 

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