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Hadden hangs on as assistants removed but another review in two months



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Published Date: 22 April 2008
FRANK Hadden is to continue as Scotland rugby coach for at least another two months, but his survival has come at a heavy price for his assistants.
After a poor Six Nations championship where Scotland avoided a second consecutive wooden spoon by a whisker, Hadden's future was in doubt. Before the tournament, the Scottish Rugby Uunion had set a 40 per cent win target, which he failed to achieve.

However, the SRU announced yesterday that following a review the union's board is keeping faith with Hadden at least until after the June tour to Argentina, but would replace George Graham and Alan Tait with Andy Robinson and Sean Lineen.

Gordon McKie, the SRU chief executive, confirmed last night that the new-look coaching team is a temporary move. A further review will take place after the two Tests in Argentina, and there is a feeling that this is the start of a breaking-in period for Robinson and Lineen as a new management team for 2009. Hadden indicated in a television interview that he saw no problem with the SRU making plans for the time when he is no longer head coach.

McKie stated: "Following a review of our RBS Six Nations performances and results, the board believe that Frank is still the best man to take the national team forward as head coach and build upon the overall progress that has been made in the last two and a half years or so.



"However, we also believe our young squad is capable of making further progress with the injection of new coaching resource at this time. These are critically-important games on tour (World Cup seedings are at stake], so these appointments are just to tide us over until the end of June, and then we will review the whole set-up."



Hadden left Edinburgh to take control of the national squad in 2006 after it endured a disastrous spell under Matt Williams. He led the team to five wins in his first nine Test matches, including victories over France and England in his first Six Nations. In his second year at the helm the team began to struggle, and Scotland have since won just eight of their last 22 internationals and only avoided successive wooden spoons by two points in the defeat to Italy.



As part of a new five-year strategic plan set out by the SRU, the first of regular reviews of performance was launched after this year's Six Nations campaign, and over a month later McKie confirmed yesterday that Hadden stays but his assistants would now be Robinson, the current Edinburgh and former England coach, along with Lineen, the Glasgow coach. Both will continue to fulfil their roles with their respective professional teams, with McKie insisting that they would return to their roles at Glasgow and Edinburgh after the tour, stressing that he was keen not to "destabilise the progress they have made".



The chief executive would not rule out the possibility of Robinson and Lineen being called up again to help Hadden in the autumn Test series where New Zealand, South Africa and Canada provide the opposition, or during the 2009 RBS Six Nations Championship.



Graham and Tait, Hadden's full-time assistants for over a year, are to be kept within the game in roles yet to be specified. Hadden made no mention of his departing assistants in yesterday's SRU statement.



As revealed in The Scotsman last month, Hadden was under pressure from McKie to make changes and convince the board that he could lift the national team from the recent slide and there was a strong indication that sacrificing his assistants would buy him more time. Though they had problems, it was neither Graham's forward play nor Tait's defence that was the most damning feature of Scotland's recent performances. With just three tries in the recent championship, the continuing failure of the attack – Hadden's main area of expertise – and over-reliance on the kicking of Dan Parks and Chris Paterson was the most glaring problem.



McKie has had a strong hand in the promotion of Lineen and Robinson and it remains to be seen how effectively three strong and confident leaders, with differing ideas on how to play the game, will blend. It may be that Hadden ends up keeping the seat warm for Robinson's eventual return to the Test environment alongside Lineen next year.



The SRU statement finished with the line: "Further outcomes from the review will be communicated in due course." It would appear that other facets of the national management are also in line for changes, but, for now, the man at the top remains in place.

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  • Last Updated: 21 April 2008 10:16 PM
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1

Thane of Kirkcaldy,

Dancing in the Streets of Raith 22/04/2008 00:19:58
Most people value their self-respect - clearly not a stumbling block for Frank Hadden !
2

Colt,

22/04/2008 00:29:54
Finally, proof that only money matters, not rugby.
This is a financial sticking plaster over the gaping wound that is our national team.
Hadden only remains because Mckie will not pay for anyone else. Using 2 coaches already on the payroll achieves every objective for him - cheaper than anyone else.
There is no real tangible interest in making Scotland a better team. First and only is the financial situation and we also have to presume McKie is de facto Director of Rugby as there is no-one else more senior than Hadden on the rugby side.

To seriously suggest that Hadden is our best bet to take the team forward is an insult to anyone who has watched Scotland under perform recently and the only way McKie will even begin to understand is when Murrayfield is half empty for the Autumn tests.

It isn't just Hadden who needs to go, it is the man who appointed him and now sees fit to retain him.
3

jerrymanders,

22/04/2008 02:19:02
Haddock and Chips?
4

pound,

fife 22/04/2008 03:58:42
It does not matter who they get to coach.

Until Scotland get a quality 9 & 10 combination that can read a game and have the skills to react accordingly the same will happen no matter who is in charge. it also helps having a good 12, 13 as well with genuine speed and strength.
5

lostwanderer,

22/04/2008 06:11:13
"finally, proof that only money matters, not rugby."

The last I heard the SRU had a debt of over 20 million pound. Surely McKies job is to be stringent?

Any coach the SRU could afford would have little impact on the Scotland team, any coach of world class quality would run a mile from the job: no money, a critical support and only two pro-teams to pick players from.

A director of rugby? Someone on a big wage to tell us that we need more players playing regularly at a better level of competition? You can pay me 20 quid and I'v done the job already!

" begin to understand is when Murrayfield is half empty for the Autumn tests." Yeah, lets not got to the games because that will improve the situation.
6

Scotch on the rocks,

London 22/04/2008 07:22:19
#4, we do have a good no. 9 (Mike Blair - who most pundits thought was the best scrum half in the 6N) and 10 (Paterson - played well; did not miss a single kick at goal), but were disrupted by Haddon's damaging strategy of swapping and changing (to Dan Parks' benefit). No.s 12,13: try Dewey, Cairns, Morrison and De Luca - not such bad players, but again the selection and substitution policy is not building consistency and momentum.

It is good that Lineen and Robinson will be breathing down Haddon's neck in Argentina. This should put him under pressure to pick a more enterprising team that is more capable of scoring tries. This must be his last chance saloon.


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Edinburgh Pete ,

22/04/2008 07:55:31
I have real reservations about Hadden continuing in the role however the decision to retain him will be as much about contracts and money as it will be about the performance review.

Argentina has to be his last chance saloon giving him the opportunity to use the talent that he has available but in a much more effective way. If he gets it wrong then it has to be thank you very much but time for other options allowing the new coach the AI’s to assess the squad ahead of the 6 Nations. If he gets it right with Robbo and Lineen fantastic.

No issue with Tait and Graham leaving, neither appeared to be supporting Hadden anyway. Defensively we again leaked too many tries this season and the pack only started playing once Robinson got involved.

Adding Lineen and Robbo makes sense, but my one concern is these changes have been forced upon Hadden which is never a strong basis for building trust and relationships however hopefully all 3 are in it for the good of the country and the partnership works.

Let the new coaching set up tour with a squad that has a healthy mix of established players and new talent, select new half back and centre pairings and properly develop a new game plan in Argentina to take into the autumn internationals ready for the 6 Nations.
9

Couperman,

Orpington 22/04/2008 07:56:01
So the SRU are giving Mr Hadden a chance to embarrass us just one last time before, no doubt, promoting him into a post in the muck (replace with any other 4 letter word you like beginning with S and ending in T) pile that is the SRU hierarchy.

Clean your boots Dan Parks at least you'll still get a couple more parts in Frank's Summer Pantomime!
Hopefully his next show will be a magic one where he bites the bullet and disappears!!
10

johnnyscotsman,

Linthgow via Newcastle 22/04/2008 08:09:20
Sadly the announcement of Hadden being retained as Scotland head coach is as inevitable as it is the actions of a regime that is rotten to the core.

QUOTE - ""Frank is still the best man to take the national team forward as head coach and build upon the overall progress that has been made in the last two and a half years or so""

This is an astonishing statement - What progress have Scotland made in the last 2 years? None.

I say we have got worse. I have written & my fellow chat contributors will all have their own story – successive humiliations v Italy, exited the world cup with their tails between their legs, not being competitive.

When is even the last time there was even scope for any optimism, the last I can remember was v Pacific Islanders years ago.

The SRU have slapped everyone Scottish fan firmly in the face, all we want is a team to show the passion we do, a team to play traditional Scottish aggressive, off the cuff rugby, not the passionless, hapless, play by numbers Hadden employs.

Shameful decision by the SRU
11

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 22/04/2008 08:24:58
The SRU have shown themselves by this to be the Amateur boys club that they are. In this age of professionalism it needs appropriate bold decisions, it is reported that Tait and Graham are being kept on in "roles as yet unspecified". What kind of professional organisation makes statements like that?

It was reported that further changes could be made after South American matches but Argentina have said not going to play strongest team so what sort of low criteria will SRU put on these matches to justify their minor move?

Hadden failed the minimum standard called for by SRU in 6 nations and is still in job.

We have good players, Hadden is not the man to be in charge of them.
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Effin See,

edinburgh 22/04/2008 08:51:17
Graham and Tait to be given jobs within the SRU, these have not been specified yet. So basically they are inventing jobs for them?! Farse - takes 'Jobs for the Boys' to a new limit...!
13

John not from the Borders,

Haddington 22/04/2008 09:21:49
If we got rid of Hadden and he deserves to go for his team selections and tactics over the last 12-18 months,

1. Can we afford to terminate his contract and pay the going price for a top coach?

2. Which top coach would want the job, even if we could afford to pay the going rate?

And it doesn't matter what we say about McKie, whoever is doing his job will always be hamstrung by a £20M overdraft. Until that goes Scottish Rugby development is always going to suffer since a large chunk of the money the SRU generate is paying interest on the money the squandered.
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Cathcart Boy,

London 22/04/2008 09:28:45
#5 lostwanderer, #8 hugo senile - are you related? Or simply in the same home for the confused and bewildered?
Bright side is Lineen makes it closer to the top. We've to suffer Hadden because Edinburgh boys stick together: McKie and Hadden are great examples of the colllusion of the incompetent.
If people don't stay away how else does McKie get the message that we rugby fans are sick of embarrassment at Hadden's hands?
15

Dod frae Galae,

the land the sru forgot 22/04/2008 09:31:03
they can afford to create new posts for 'the boys' yet they last week closed the sru office in Gala to save money - nothing new there then.

Many of the problems we suffered in the 6 nations were due to Haddock's poor team selection - it is he who should be emptied - not his assisitants!
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Happy driver,

22/04/2008 09:31:05
Getting rid of Graham makes sense as the forwards never performed until Robinson got involved.

Getting rid of Tait to be replaced by Lineen makes no sense as he was a defense coach not the backs coach. Hadden took responsibility for the backs style of play so surely that is who Lineen should replace.
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THE DREADED SILVER CROC,

"sSottish" - jeez!!!! "sSottish", indeed...... 22/04/2008 09:33:21
See what happens when you get riled!
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Scotish Exile,

22/04/2008 09:35:22
#15

Lineen making it closer to the top is a "brigh side"...how, he has done nowt at Glasgow, we ahve the same problems as the national side, can't score enough tries. He has been with Glasgow for a right few years now and the team has hardly moved forward.

Graham and Tait will be moved to other jobs, its just a game of musical chairs at the SRU, Scotland, Glasgow and Edinburgh will do nothing until there is a proper clear out
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SHELDON THE CRACK DEALER,

22/04/2008 09:58:03
#18 do you think they'd be willing to stop off for a spot of Jehovah's witnessing on their way South?

We've got a sudden vacancy in Saudi Arabia, door to door, leafletting, that kind of thing. Nothing too taxing.
21

Old Cartha Boy,

22/04/2008 10:11:04
McKie declared that Hadden was "still the best man to take the national team forward as head coach and build on the overall progress that has been made in the last two-and-a-half years or so." What is missing from this statement is "on the SRU payroll" after "best man".
22

Nelly,

Paris 22/04/2008 10:17:19
Even Stevie Wonder can see that Franks time is up.

If the team do well on the summer tour - the new coaches will get the credit.

If the teams performs poorly it'll be seen as the last nail in Franks coffin.

Frank then gets 'promoted' to a more specialist managerial/analitical role.

Then most likely either Lineen, Robinson or Bates gets the nod. The others supporting (if Bates could be lured back).

Don't drag it out Frank - you can't really win. You have tried, done well at times, given it your best - but just stayed a bit too long.

23

Red Dykes,

Highland 22/04/2008 10:28:37
Unbelieavable that Hadden remains - surely his compensation can't be so unaffordable.His inability to motivate anyone, lack of tactical nous, and stubborn intransigence over the Dan Parks nightmare demonstrated he just isn't up to it. The SRU are shambolic, and this papering temporarily over the cracks does nothing to hide this fact.
24

Moop,

Ayrshire 22/04/2008 10:31:43
We have to accept that we don't have a magic wand to instantly fix our situation.

Our Union is stoney broke. (So even if some decisions are based on financial rather than rugby reasons, surely that's a responsibe attitude.)
We would really struggle to attract coaches even if we had money. (Just can't see a Jake White type of character wanting the job.)
We have the basis of a decent side, but don't have a creative or cutting edge.
Like it or not Parks is probably our best 10. (Godman maybe, Paterson will have to move clubs to get any game time after the Munster debacle. Parks is the form player.)

These seem to be tricky things for people to accept, but, I suspect that we'll have to just get on with it.
25

Jockbok,

22/04/2008 10:38:49
This was so predictable. Ireland sack their most successful coach after a string of poor results. England controversially hatchet a well respected and successful coach after reaching the final of the World cup and second in the 6 Nations. We have a coach who fails the low level of achievement set for him and has overseen a level of performance that makes Matt Williams' tenure seem almost acceptable.

Go now Mckie. You appointed him, stuck by him in the midst of this turgid rubbish, and have now backed him in spite of the blatantly obvious.
26

Exiled Tweedsider,

salisbury 22/04/2008 11:21:11
We should'nt be surprised by this - Hadden carried out the review!
27

The Laird of Kitakyushu,

22/04/2008 11:26:06
You don't need to be Einstein to realise that this is all about money. Frank Hadden clearly failed to hit the modest rugby target set by McKie of 40% and yet still remains - smells a wee bit fishy doesn't it? Mr. McKie has clearly done his sums and has decided it costs too much to get rid of FH at this time.
28

Elvis G,

Edinburgh 22/04/2008 12:04:18
England reach the World Cup Final, finish second in the 6 nations, yet change their coach in an attempt to improve.

Scotland, who have made absolutely no progress in two years, hang on to an absolute failure. A total lack of ambition.

And Argentina have picked a weakened pool to face us-says it all.

I last attended Murrayfield for the Scotland vs. Italy 2007 game. I have not been back since and I will not return until Hadden is gone.

Having helped destroy Borders rugby the SRU are now seemingly hell bent on destroying Scottish rugby. Can someone not pay Hadden off?
29

GAR,

Dublin 22/04/2008 12:20:03
ITS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE; THAT IN LINEEN COMING ON BOARD WE HAVE ANOTHER "DAN PARKS IS GOOD" BELIEVER!!!!

More than anything else regarding this announcement, thats what worries me!

30

Colt,

22/04/2008 12:22:26
Hadden has only just signed a new contract - if there is a huge pay-off necessitated after abject failure to achieve targets then McKie got it very wrong.

#5 you could be Dirctor of Rugby, your arrogant attitude will mean you fit in well. If it really is all about money and nothing else then close down the pro teams, abandon costly tours, cancel the 7s, ditch age group coaches and sell the back pitches. That will help the debt situation.

Paying for the people to get you out of a mess is something McKie has already achieved spectacularly as his salary has doubled since joining. Trouble is we are still in the mess, have no long term strategy to get out of it and the retention of a failed coach simply confirms a lack of ambition and vision.

As for not going to the autumn internationals - it is all about business we are told so if the market decides the product on offer is not worth what is charged then so be it. Don't suggest people should be somehow morally obliged to go along no matter what is on offer or how much they are being charged.
31

Red Dykes,

HIGHLAND 22/04/2008 12:24:36
MOOP #25 - "Like it or not Parks is probably our best 10."

Ye gods man - are you Frank Hadden in disguise. NO rugby man watching Parks' abysmal performances this year could ever defend such abysmal incompetent, one trick, shambolic No 10 play - Paterson on a bad day is ten times the player Parks will ever be - hopefully consigned to the dustbin - and Hadden should join him - or is it "Like it or not Hadden is probably our best coach."
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Diehard Braveheart,

Scot in London 22/04/2008 12:33:57
Correct me if I am wrong but Hadden after the RWC 2007 went onto a rolling year contract where he said he would be reviewed on the previous 12 months' performance. I suspect that he will go after Argentina as there will be no breach in the contract and should not cost the SRU muppets a cent. This may be more to do with hope than a reality.

Sacking Graham and Tait also seems bang out of order. Our defense and forward play was not that bad, it was our attack play which was left wanting, attack play being Haddens so called "forte".

After Italy I took some comfort that it would at least be Dan Parks last game. However, he has been playing seriously well for Glasgow in the last 2 games. Could Hadden give the Scottish fans a parting gift in Argentina and grant this woeful player more caps?

Suggestion: every fan I know, every comment on this web site, nowhere have I seen support for Dan Parks. Perhaps we should all shout for his inclusion and the stubborn Hadden might then drop him.
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John south of Soutra,

22/04/2008 12:35:37
McKie stated: "Following a review of our RBS Six Nations performances and results, the board believe that Frank is still the best man to take the national team forward as head coach and build upon the overall progress that has been made in the last two and a half years or so.
""Should have gone to Specsavers""
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SHELDON THE CRACK DEALER,

22/04/2008 12:45:28
#28 if the SRU hangs on until, I think, November, they can not renew his contract. No compensation, no tribunals, no bad publicity, no arguments.

Oh well, whatever happens it's unlikely to be good.
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Scotlandthrough&through,

Edinburgh 22/04/2008 12:47:00
Cathcartboy #15. Are you a muppet? How is staying away from the games going to help anyone? The more people that stay away the more that McKie will think, well the public don't really care so why should I?

Thats would be awful. Your clearly not a proper Scottish Rugby fan as true fans would support the teams no matter what. I agree with you in that the Edinburgh boys stick together but I don't think that Lineen has done quite enough to be worth becoming Scotland head coach just yet. I think a Robinson/Lineen partnership would the best solution.

But if your not willing to support the team then you shouldn't be commenting on forums like this.

#5 Lostwanderer, your right apart from the bit about Lineen. He is a good coach.
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

22/04/2008 13:03:23
This is just setting the scene for Robinson to take over next year - a move that I would welcome.
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Moop,

Ayrshire 22/04/2008 13:03:36
#32 Red Dykes. As I said whether people like it or not, that's pretty much the situation. The blame really has to lie with Paterson & Godman for not fronting up & playing well & of course the Union for not producing enough players of the quality required. We could blame the clubs for not producing a standout option for 10 or blame whoever you like.
The reality of the situation is that Paterson won't be getting any game time at Gloucester especially at 10, he's way down the pecking order, 3rd choice currently 4th choice after the summer when Barclay arrives. Godman well he's just been plugging away, nothing special. Parks has won 2 MOTM awards on the trot, been scoring tries for fun (hard for International only watchers to believe) & has without doubt been the form player in the 10 position.
You or I don't have to like it, but it is a fact.
But you'll surely have to agree that it makes not picking him quite difficult, unless of course you advocate having favourites at this level where people get picked regardless of how much game time they're getting & form etc.

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Cullenskink,

Kingston 22/04/2008 15:19:17

#38 Moop - in your sentence '[Parks] has without doubt been the form player in the 10 position' you missed out the words 'at pro team level', which turn an innacurate sentence into an accurate one.
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Moop,

Ayrshire 22/04/2008 15:34:14
Ok at pro-team level...

Remind me again, what level of the game are international selections based upon?

I'm not a huge fan of Parks, but then again I don't have it in for him either. We have no real viable alternatives is all I'm saying. And you can't really question his 'pro team level' form.
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lostwanderer,

22/04/2008 15:52:39
#31 my "arrogant attitude" may well be what is required as a director of rugby and is pleasing to see that we agree that there is no need to hire an expensive DoR to tell us everything we already know.

If I remember rightly a 5-10 year strategy was announced earlier in the year, though i will hazard a guess you dont remember it because you dont like it.

"Keeping a failed coach"= he is a failing coach, with the help of robinson and lineen he can turn it around. the three of them are the only viable options to run the team

if you dont want to go to the Autumn internationals, then dont, but dont encourage other people not to go just because you dont like McKie and Hadden
41

BigRon,

22/04/2008 16:10:56
I can`t believe they are going to let Hadden stutter on for another couple of months when everyone knows he is being set up for the chop. Just get shot of him now.
I would have thought a summer tour is an ideal time for the new man or men to find their feet before the autumn internationals. I`d give the job to Robinson. I think the Edinburgh players fear him a bit. Hadden has been too chummy with a lot of the present players.
As for Dan Parks. OK when he is playing in Magners games when nothing is at stake. But completely out of his depth in international rugby.
42

jbascotinengland,

22/04/2008 17:31:19
How can you get rid of the assistants and keep the guy who is supposibly responsible for the team as a whole?

Could the SRU not have ditched Hadden and brought in a manager to run the team with Robinson and Linean as coaches? That way they'd be able to remain in their current roles at Edinburgh and Glasgow.

Although you could argue, has Linean really done enough at Glasgow to justify a promotion? At the start of the season all the reports were of a Glasgow team ready to take on the world. So far they haven't lived up to that.

It will be interesting to see what happens on tour. Perhaps they could let FH pick one test team based on his favoured players and AR and SL to pick the other baseed on whose on form and see which team does better!

#23 - Bates is currently destroying the Falcons so I wouldn't be to quick to shout for his return.

As for not going to the games, surely it is better to go to the games and voice your displeasure at the coach than stay away? Or is that too much of a football thing and just not done in rugby?
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Red Dykes,

Highland 22/04/2008 17:31:30
Moop - Dan Parks can't play international rugby - too slow in thought and deed and lacking basic skills and quality - He was a complete disaster in all his matches - gave Italy the match and eroded completely any confidence growing in the side - and who sent him on? Hadden. Both should disappear for good. I played rugby in Ayrshire - surely its not that bad.........
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jbascotinengland,

22/04/2008 17:38:34
#40 - having seen Godman play against Leinster at the weekend I would say that he is surely giving Parks a run for his money at pro-team level.

Ok, he missed some penalties but Patterson would be taking those anyway. He had a couple of loose kicks from hand but Parks has many more in every international.

As for picking on form, this is Hadden we are talking about and we all know that that isn't how he selects the team!

Godman has had one poor showing for Scotland and has been binned, Parks has many and keeps getting picked. It makes no sense.
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forestry,

DUNS 22/04/2008 20:15:41
How the **** can a coach who sets himself a target of winnning two from five and then fails to do even that be the best man to take Scotland forward.
We are the laughing stock of world rugby.
Furthermore we then find jobs within the SRU for the two assistants we have just sacked for being incompetent.
WHAT A F****** JOKE.
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The Weaver,

fort william 22/04/2008 22:31:00
How right you are ! Surely if FH wants to "refresh" the management he should be the first to go! Whwere is it the buck stops again?
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THE DREADED SILVER CROC,

Lounging by the billabong, awaiting the call 23/04/2008 08:56:14
There was little or nothing exceptional or offensive in my post at 18 - so it looks like the SRU / Hootsmon Freemasons have made another intervention. What a sorry bunch of plebs!
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The Weaver,

sunny Fort william!! 23/04/2008 21:48:24
OK blame it on the sun .. we are not used to it here , but if its a money thing I will take the job for nat min wage plus£1

 

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