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Paterson takes sideways step as Parks returns



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Published Date: 15 March 2008
Injury to Walker sparks a major overhaul of the Scottish backline
FRANK Hadden's doubts in Chris Paterson as a stand-off loomed as large as the Colosseum in Rome yesterday when the Scotland coach switched plans for the final RBS Six Nations Championship match and handed the stand-off reins back to Dan Parks.

Hadden, and his assistants Alan Tait and George Graham, had been forced into another unwelcome change of tack when Nikki Walker withdrew from the squad on Thursday with an ankle injury. It left them with several choices and while promoting Parks and shifting Paterson back to the wing was the least ambitious, it was always the most likely because it was tried and trusted, and meant less disruption.

Hadden, the most culpable of coaches in failing to afford Paterson the opportunities to develop his skills as a stand-off over the past decade, now appears to be falling between two stools – does he continue with Parks' kicking game or give vent to a more enterprising running style with Paterson at its apex?

The coach admitted last week that he was not disappointed to have to press Parks into action after just 20 minutes of a rain-lashed Calcutta Cup, but it is clear that the coach remains unconvinced that Paterson has the ability to take Scotland forward even on a dry and sunny Roman afternoon.

This was despite him stating this week, before injury intervened: "(Italy] remind me a little of ourselves as they're trying to play the way we tried to play a couple of years ago. I know that trying to play expansively brings confidence to players and develops them as players.

"I recognise what Nick (Mallett, Italy coach] is trying to do with the team, and hopefully that gives us an advantage as we should be familiar with defending against that style of attack. But there's no doubt that if we don't continue to raise the bar, or if there's any hint of complacency from last weekend then we will be in for a very tough afternoon."

Parks, at his best, is able to play the territory game superbly well and put Scotland in positions from which to strike with his peerless kicking game, but the Glasgow stand-off has not been in top form since returning from the Rugby World Cup, he does not offer much more of a threat at Test level and, invariably, over the past year, the Scotland team have not been able to strike from the platforms he provides.

The tally of two tries in the past seven Test matches, and just one in this championship – Italy are currently bottom in the table, but have managed four – is not Parks' fault, but has pointed to a need for a different approach from Scotland if they are to find a more potent attack.

Paterson began to spark something more threatening in Ireland and laid the foundations for victory over England with a first quarter in which they did not know where the Scots attack was coming from next. One could argue that their traditional last-quarter backlash had been drawn from them by both the physical intensity of the forward battle and also the tiring first quarter they endured. It may be harsh, but Paterson's threat is nowhere near as obvious now from the wing and his size, among the modern behemoths of wing play, can make him vulnerable to turnovers.

But, again, he is invaluable anywhere on the pitch especially when Scotland play a tighter game, because he provides the points from his stunning goal-kicking rate – now at 30 consecutive kicks since last August. Clearly, however, he still has some convincing to do with Hadden in terms of his overall fly-half play and, with the player turning 30 in a fortnight, there must be doubts as to whether he ever will.

Hadden said: "It's somewhat typical of the ill-luck we've had with injuries since the World Cup that we've lost Nikki Walker for our final match of the Championship. But we've made the changes with a view to giving us the best possible chance of victory tomorrow."

Underlining Scotland's bad luck with injuries, just four Scots started in the same position in this fixture last year and only eight started the last match between the sides, in the rain of Saint Etienne during the World Cup, in the same jerseys. Hadden and his assistants have stuck with the risky move of just two backs on the bench, though Henderson provides one more option than Parks.

But, irrespective of who is in the pivotal position and what style of attack they employ, this Scotland squad has the quality to win this colourful final fixture of the championship and lift the morale of supporters another notch from the Calcutta Cup.

The forwards have to perform well in the set-piece against a formidable Italian eight, and provide the same dynamism and discipline at the breakdown that helped outsmart England, but with no wins in this championship, and knowing a five-point victory would hand Scotland the wooden spoon, again, they will batter into contact, spoil rucks and fight for every scrap until the final breath of this game.

Simon Taylor knows the talents of his opposite number, Italian skipper Sergio Parisse, well from Stade Francais, but another dominant display in attack and defence from the Scot, and back row colleagues Alasdair Strokosch and Allister Hogg, will build the platforms for the visitors to dominate the Italian trio and provide Blair and Parks with the space and time to control the match.

What Paterson may or may not have brought to the side from stand-off is now irrelevant; this Scottish squad has to uncover the level of teamwork, skill, determination and precision to prove that the Calcutta Cup win was not a one-off.

Rollercoaster ride from pillar to post
CHRIS Paterson would be forgiven for wondering if he has been coming or going during the 2008 RBS Six Nations Championship.


30 JANUARY

• Scotland coach Frank Hadden springs a major surprise as Paterson is dropped from the starting line-up for the opening game against France. Dan Parks is selected at stand-off, with Hadden citing Paterson's lack of game-time as a contributory factor.

3 FEBRUARY

• The biggest cheer of the day at Murrayfield is reserved for the appearance of Paterson in place of Dan Parks, but with only 19 minutes remaining there is no chance of turning the tide in a match that was already lost.

6 FEBRUARY

• Paterson is restored to the starting XV to face Wales, but at full-back.

8 FEBRUARY

• On the eve of the Cardiff match, Paterson is switched from full-back to the left wing after an injury to Simon Webster.

9 FEBRUARY

• Plays 68 minutes on the wing against Wales, then is switched to stand-off for a futile final 12 minutes.

19 FEBRUARY

• The team to face Ireland lists Paterson at stand-off, with Parks on the bench.

23 FEBRUARY

• Paterson gets 66 minutes at stand-off before being shunted to full-back as Dan Parks comes on at No10.

4 MARCH

• Next up are England and Paterson is named stand-off, Parks on the bench.

8 MARCH

• After only 20 minutes of the Calcutta Cup match, an injury to Rory Lamont sees Paterson switched to the wing and Parks installed at stand-off.

11 MARCH

• For the final match of the campaign against Italy, Paterson is at stand-off and Parks is on the bench. Not for long,

14 MARCH

• For the third time in the campaign, Paterson loses his stand-off berth to cover an injury to a winger, this time Nikki Walker. Second-choice Parks again takes over the pivotal No10 role.


The full article contains 1316 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 15 March 2008 12:15 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Six Nations
 
1

Bladerunner,

Anywhere there is no TV 15/03/2008 00:20:37
Haddock you are a complete and utter tit. The rugby world in Scotland are mocking you and the half wit Desperate Dan Pants. Do the reasonable thing and resign before the weight of popular opinion demands your dismissal. You are not a Scotland supporter and are trying to torture us into submission. Please go and take Pants, rugby writer (sic) Kevin Ferrie, your main apologist, and memories of Marcus Di Rollover and that Hamilton clown with you. You are a dunce of astronomical proportions and now I really hope you never work in rugby again.
2

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 00:46:20
"not dissapointed to see Parks take the pitch" - he nearly let england back in single handed.

Keep taking the happy pills Frankie.
3

Big Rob from Dubai,

15/03/2008 03:51:49
totally agree Leon.... i counted 6 kicks last saturday which begged disbelieve!!! and why does Hadden keep promoting his positional kicking game!!!...its crap...those two up and unders he delivered against England where school boy level not to mention once again putting himslf in a position where his low out of hand kicking style gives his cover defense nightmares. Why does he not see the time allowed to convert the kick is fodder for sharp back row forwards or even not so sharp back row forwards. Worse still why does Hadden not see it. I g'tee you today he'll have another kick charged down... there must be better options for hadden, its not Parks fault for being on the pitch but when he gets there i wish he'd calm down and give Scotland fans a performance to be proud of. Surely the law of number decides he has a good game round the corner. ....anyway good luck to the lads today but to be perfectly honest a victory will just cement Hadden's appointment and make matter worse longer term....
4

Dave58,

Aberdeen 15/03/2008 06:10:32
I wish the guys all the best today and I'll be cheering the team on from the comfort of the pub, but I can’t help but feel despondent when I read this news. Despondent, but not surprised. We had the opportunity to make a positive change by leaving Paterson at 10 and bringing in Ben Cairns to partner his A Team colleague Morrison in the centre. This would be a statement of intent to at least try and play a wider game against a very solid but very limited Italian side. But I guess at this stage in his career expansion, development and entertainment is not on Frank’s agenda. This is damage limitation of the worst order.

I supported FH's decision during RWC to play a weakened side against the All Blacks but from the Argentina match, Scotland have gone downhill rapidly. We have better players capable of playing a better brand of Rugby than we have seen during this season's 6N. Wales, with players who are not that much better than their (potential) Scottish counterparts, have demonstrated what is capable with a positive outlook and a “lack of fear”. I don’t think our pack can be improved much, although I’d like to see us play with a genuine open-side now that we have two real contenders. However DP’s limited game has been exposed at this level, Simon Webster should play on the wing, persevere with Paterson at 10 and we need creativity combined with solidity in the centre. FH appeared to panic after the French match by reverting to a one plan strategy! He had blooded as new back but after DiLuca’s poor start at this level does not appear to want to risk another new back, why?

Some of the articles written in this paper and the comments in this site have been pretty appalling personal attacks on FH and DP which have, quite frankly, demonstrated a exceptionally poor image of Scottish Rugby press and public. However, I have been worn down by this year’s lack of ambition and really can’t think of anything positive to say about the future of the Scotland te
5

Dave58,

Aberdeen 15/03/2008 06:16:06
Pt II

Some of the articles written in this paper and the comments in this site have been pretty appalling personal attacks on FH and DP which have, quite frankly, demonstrated a exceptionally poor image of Scottish Rugby press and public. However, I have been worn down by this year’s lack of ambition and really can’t think of anything positive to say about the future of the Scotland team under FH.

Regardless of today’s result in my opinion, sorry Frank, it is time to go.
6

AWMCG,

Geneva 15/03/2008 06:30:25
Unbelievable selection. With some face saved last week, this was surely the moment to make a modest bet on the future. Alas, there is not an ounce of creativity in this sad man's yellow body. He clings to failure. The only crumb of comfort is that this surely bring us one step closer to his exit. The SRU must choose between Captain Parks McHaddock and a thinly populated Murrayfield. And, yes, this is a personal attack on both.
7

bawcus,

benthehoose an' doon in the dumps 15/03/2008 06:41:47
4. Dave58.
Well said. When I saw the news of DP's selection my heart sank into my boots.
If FH wants Paterson to gain experience at No 10, why move him to the wing when Cairns could fill that position?
I wish the team well and hope for a win. However, the inclusion of DP greatly lowers my expectations. More to the point, I wonder what FH can offer except more of the same.


8

Kenny A,

15/03/2008 06:55:15
Dont worry chaps, all will be well, spent all last night on the beach with the local priest and resident witchdoctor. The Exorcisim to all accounts went as planned, thats the good news.

The bad news the witchdoctor who dabbles in Voodo when not at his day job (accountant) is slightly worried about his part of the activities in that he believes he has created a monsterous hybrid of Frank Hadden and Dan Bloody Parks who is bloody imortal, and has the power of the evil eye over the SRU.

He blames it on low quality imported chickens and dodgy rum. At least he has an excuse, its all my fault chaps for dabbling in forbiden practices, not Haddens or Parks if it goes wrong.

Anyone seen my pet Pygmy and AK47, a bit worried I am.
9

KelsoKillie,

not on holiday 15/03/2008 06:56:05
As someone who sees Parks as a pretty good player, and I have said so before on this forum, I am staggered by the dropping of Paterson as stand off because a winger has been injured a day before the match. During the match perhaps OK, but surely the squad doesn't only have two wingers! If so, sack the selector(s).

Good luck to Scotland - hopefully with Paterson not being stand off he can do a bit more roaming into attacking spots. Remember - we did beat England with Parks as stand off for most of the game!
10

Kenny A,

15/03/2008 07:03:38
9 Buddy we beat England despite Parks for being on most of the game.

Thou are reported for being insane of optimistic, seen that ruddy pygmy?
11

Mcsense,

Embra 15/03/2008 07:30:01
So, here we have yet more proof that Haddock is not now, nor will he ever be an international class rugby coach. On the upside, after this afternoons defeat even if it is by less than 5 points, under the terms of this fools contract its.. taxi time! And let him pay his own way home, via China!
We know with certainty that the other 14 players will try their hearts out but it will all be for nothing as Dumb Dan boots hard won ball into the waiting arms of the Italian back three who might have been concerned about not seeing the ball, they now know they will see plenty.
Don't get me wrong I would love to be proved wrong but on past evidence t'aint gonna happen.
R.I.P. Scottish Rugby
Where is Ian Paxton when you really need him?
12

3baddogz,

Deep in the Darkest Borders where the sheep are sc 15/03/2008 07:31:17
What a depressing load of rubbish to wake up to on a Saturday morning (even though my pessimistic Scottish sixth sense told me this was going to happen as soon as I read that Nikki Walker was injured.

A predictable and boring selection by Mr Hadden - all the evidence of what could happen was there when Chris Paterson was playing stand off and now it's going to be back to the same old kick-to-the-corners-but-don't-attack-the-opposition-line-out-time.

Pass? What's that then? Is that when I give the ball straight to the opposition, or maybe even a hospital pass to my centres if I'm lucky?

Or are we going to pick and drive, pick and drive, oops lost the ball in contact again?

What's the point in even turning on the telly????

13

Skoosh,

Edinburgh 15/03/2008 07:49:41
OH MY GOD!!!!!

The decision to bring back Parks defies belief!! The man has demonstrated conclusively throughout his international 'career' that he is NOT an international class stand off. Sticking blindly to a tried and tested formula is only justified when the formula is a success. FH is clearly worried that a second successive wooden spoon may be snatched from our grasp but there's every chance that with this team change he's put us back in pole position again.

Someone at the SRU needs to speak to Hadden fairly urgently, and if they need guidance, Oliver Cromwell's brief speech to the Rump Parliament provides a good guide. (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!)
14

Stoobing,

London 15/03/2008 07:50:59
It's astonishing that an injury to a very average winger results in our stand off changing! Horrific decision which has only been met with groans.

If we win this game on kicks alone, Hadden has to go. It is NOT solely about winning when you end the 6 Nations with one try scored.

Cairns should have come straight in at centre with Webster on the wing. How can we change from a potentially more expansive game to a dour kicking game because of an injury to Nikki Walker?

Fair to say, I've never been less excited about a Scottish rugby international, and Hadden has to go. Bear in mind, Hadden's first 'masterstroke' was to drop Paterson from the first team, and Hogg from the 22. Add to this picking De Luca with Parks and then when Paterson - whose game would undoubtedly suit De Luca more - starts, De Luca is dropped. Rubbish!
15

Stoobing,

London 15/03/2008 07:54:09
By the by, Godman has to be in contention soon with Paterson possibly at 15. Paterson played his best attacking rugby for Scotland at 15, and we have to show some faith in a creative fly half at some point to reverse the international mocking of our one note game.
16

Banging his head against a brick wall,

the land of frustration 15/03/2008 08:12:09
#1 Your favourite 'journalist' has been at it again and begins this mornings love in with the following:
"If his side wins in Italy today, Frank Hadden will end this season as Scotland's most successful head coach in the professional era. "

Anyone got any thoughts????

17

Geronimo Mac Banzi,

Just finished bouncing my blond. bed floor stairs 15/03/2008 08:13:18
get a life you people, get a blond it is life

she dont even play football

good luck
18

MBR,

15/03/2008 08:23:29
Feel for those who are on their way to Italy anticipating that Paterson is at 10 with Cairns to come on later. The decision to play Parks at 10 is beyond belief as anyone who witnessed his performance against England can testify. If a coach as inept as Brian Ashton can make a pretty momentous decision to drop Wilkinson then by all accounts Parks should be nowhere near our 22 as he was as bad if not worse. It was clear to anyone at the match that Parks's chief role seems to be the on-field cheerleader rather than contributing anything positive in actual rugby terms. It is a sad day when rugby fans are not sure if they want to follow their heart and support a Scotland win or their heads and hope for a stuffing so we can finally be rid of Hadden and somehow reverse the obvious decline beginning at the world cup build up. Come on SRU this is now beyond a joke and six nations games apart, can anyone honestly say that a Scotland team under Hadden would even half-fill Murrayfield?
19

Big Smoke,

15/03/2008 08:27:09
I can't even face going to the pub to watch the game now, it's that bad i'm considering going shopping with the wife now!

Taxi for Haddick!!! come on SRU get rid of him tomorrow and try and save some face for us poor Scotland supporters for the future.
20

thebigiam,

15/03/2008 09:00:17
I think I can understand Hadden's thinking here. With Italy playing a stand-off who doesn't kick, Parks should ensure that we play most of the game in Italy's half.

As someone above noted, last years tactic of kicking for touch and then not competing at the line outs was especially dull, so I hope we don't repeat that.

That said, I don't think he's right about that. Good player or bad player, Parks is not a man in form.

Paterson's kicking from hand has been OK. And given how far Southwell can belt it, we should make more use of him whoever is at stand-off.

If the Italian forwards have a storming game, score the odd try and hold their discipline, it could be a long afternoon.
21

jdships,

15/03/2008 09:13:03
4 Dave 58 Aberdeen,
"I wish the guys all the best today and I'll be cheering the team on from the comfort of the pub, but I can’t help but feel despondent when I read this news. Despondent, but not surprised. We had the opportunity to make a positive change by leaving Paterson at 10 and bringing in Ben Cairns to partner his A Team colleague Morrison in the centre "

My thoughts 100% - good post.

Three questions
What must be going through Mossy's mind at this moment ?
What must be going through Phil Godman's mind at thgis moment.
What must be going through the minds of two or three Scottish wingers at this moment.

The potential is there to go back to situation V France, Wales and Ireland .

P.S. Have just spoken with an ex Irish international stand off who phoned me to say him and his pals are having a good laugh at this developement
" We wish Scotland well - but a big but !" was his closing remark
22

THE DREADED SILVER CROC,

Chateau Croc, Mont Revard, Haute Savoie, France 15/03/2008 09:28:47
SRU / Hadden / McKie / Scottish Rugby

The greatest turn-off since the miners' strike.
23

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15/03/2008 09:33:42
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24

baldwonder,

15/03/2008 09:44:46
how on earth can this man get away with constantly demoting Patterson, who has made the most impact on Scottish rugby in every one of their games so far? he has pretty much scored every point Scotland have had since the start of the world cup. To add insult to injury it bloody Parks that is replacing him.

Do we as a nation have a contract with the world to be the worst coached, worst selected and worst managed team in international rugby?

Get rid of the school rugby coach, that is all he is good for.
25

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 09:52:29
Is anybody going to watch today? I might do the garden, or smoke some crack.

Does Dan Parks deserve this? He gets abused on this forum, he gets abused in the streets. He doesn't pick himself, and he doesn't write Frankie Haddens double dose Prozac script either.
26

SHELDON THE CRACK DEALER,

Being tasered by the Polis 15/03/2008 10:00:28
SMOKE CRACK.
27

Steve Evans,

Malta 15/03/2008 10:07:10
Good Luck, Scotland
28

The Rattler,

Peebles 15/03/2008 10:18:01
I listened to Chris Paterson on Radio Borders last night, in an interview recorded earlier in the week. He expressed his delight at finally getting a run at stand-off, where he has always wanted to play. He explained that by playing more regularly there he can only improve! He did mention that due to the 5/2 split on the bench, it was obvious that he would have to make way for DP at some point in the second half, but it was the consecutive starts that were allowing him to gain in confidence!

Imagine his frame of mind now..... I wouldn't blame the guy if he walked out of the hotel and caught a plane home. I'm not one to abuse DP for this as it is not him who is picking the team, but Hadden must really be coaching his very last fixture surely. Their has to be someone in the SRU that thinks the same as 99% of the Scottish Rugby public??????????????
29

Manic Maroon,

Paterson-ville 15/03/2008 10:19:05
While it was almost inevitable as soon as Walker was ruled out I had hoped that Haddock would go for a more expansive option and leave Parks on the bench. As it is the Italians will be lapping this up as they will no doubt have a game plan of their own ready for Parks at 10 which would have been worthless with Mossy there.

If we win today (and I will admit there is a bit of me hoping for a record defeat just to be rid of Haddock) we can look forward to more of the same for at least a year as he will haev achieved is 2 games won target for his latest comic, sorry, contract.

Roll on 2.45 so I can get down to where Mossy started off, and hopefully see one decent game today, between Gala and the Nails. Come on the Maroooons.
30

graeme mac,

the land of the bog and the little people 15/03/2008 10:21:51

i had hoped that after reading the news of shuffle that it was all a bad dream and i would waken up to find that cairns had been drafted in after all, with webster shifted back to wing and the prospects for a decent day were all set.....

sorry frank and the coaching team who must all share the responsibility but you have let us all down,badly.

i really would like to know why this choice was made as it is completely baffling and it shows the befuddled thinking of the current set up.

best result today- scotland win, coaching team resign- what odds?
31

Jockbok,

15/03/2008 10:26:43
That is it! Given the choice of watching and cheering on Scotland, I will travel to watch Watsonians v Dundee HSFP in the cup. Hadden will dismiss me as not a real supporter. I care less! I would prefer to see Scotland play rugby with some degree of invention and verve rather than the same old garbage Hadden has served up.

If I was Mossy I would tell him to forget it. He obviously has more grace.

Hadden must go as well as those who appointed him. Buy cheap, buy dear.
32

MC Frankie Haddock, resident DJ at the Buftie Club,

pre-match press conference 15/03/2008 10:32:36
Aiiiieeeee!

Lis'en and all me homies, right, me 'as perfected me glottal stops, right, so 'dis mean me is down wiv da kidz peeps.

An' let me tell you, me will be layin' down a set from da boof at Stadio Flaminyo, an' wotevah you homies finks dis team can lay down some PHAT CHOONS.

Right peeps?

Aiiieeeeee!
33

jdships,

15/03/2008 10:40:52
25 Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager

"Does Dan Parks deserve this? He gets abused on this forum, he gets abused in the streets."

"Abused" your having a laff !
Criticised yes ,rightfully so IMO, for his poor performances which outweigh his good ones.
As you rightly say "he doesn't pick himself" but two wrongs don't make a right.
I feel heart sorry for Mossy !!!!
I have been in Park's company a couple of times and he comes accross as a very pleasant young man ,
It's his ability as a player that is in doubt.

Good luck to the 22 today
However ,if the result goes against us what happens /should happen next ?
34

Toast,

15/03/2008 10:44:18
Anything short of total domination and a comfortable victory and Hadden and McKie should be dismissed,their naivity and total lack of imagination or iniative have dragged Scottish rugby to joke status.
35

Lederblix,

15/03/2008 10:47:03
FH's stance is illogical, flawed and indefensible, regardless of how good or bad he thinks CP is at 10. In his original selection CP was at 10. Why, when Walker was injured and he had the whole of Scotland to choose a replacement from, did he decide CP was the best wing available? Why not Webster? If he thought CP good enough to play at 10 initially, what has changed that he decides to completely mess up his originally selected back line? It is a cynical insult to Mossy - and he (FH) moans about the bad publicity he gets. It will get worse as long as he acts in such a petty and shabby manner.
36

The Rattler,

Peebles 15/03/2008 10:47:16
This is a particularly sad day for me. I have supported Scotland since I could walk and talk. LOved standing in the south stand (clock end) or Arms Park, etc cheering on the team. However, I really do wish we get beaten today as, due to FH's crazy performance clause, a win will basically renew his contract for another twelve months.

At least a defeat would see him replaced, hopefully with a coaching team of Lineen and Robinson, overseen by a manager figure such as Ian Paxton or similar.

As I say, I've never wanted my country to lose before, but now see it as a necessary step back before we can be allowed to go forward.
37

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 15/03/2008 10:54:04
Final throw of the dice for Hadden.

Against almost unanimous public opinion he selects Parks.

2 wooden spoons not acceptable, neither should be finishing bottom equal on points.

Who would drop the worlds most consistent kicker after the world cup, only Hadden.

How Mossy can stay motivated is testement to his charactor and he should be allowed some slack if not up to top of his game today.

Haden may prove us all wrong today, if he doesn't he should go.
38

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 11:02:03
Two years ago we all supported Haddock, how things have changed.

I don't think this backline poses too much of a threat today, and there are players left out who could maybe ask a few more questions of defenders.

I don't claim to know the answers, and the security of Hadden's job may even rely on today's result, but it seems after a promising start he's completely lost the plot.

He's developed some strange obsessions - firstly with size, secondly with a conservative game plan, which is strangely timed when you consider rule changes which will make the game more fluid are being experimented with right now.

Maybe he feels Scotland players don't have the skill levels, but skill is partly down to composure and confidence, and the teams Hadden has picked are hardly a vote of confidence in his key players' abilities.

He's also been quick to drop young players such as de Luca, whilst being slow to drop off form senior players such as Jason White. I doubt Strokosch would have appeard this 6N if WHite hadn't been injured.

Who knows? All in all it's incredibly frustrating for the supporters, and of all the many posts on the subject written on various forums since yesterday, I have hardly read a single one supporting Frank Hadden.

He has to go. Does the SRU not realise that ultimately, supporters pay the bills?
39

Sir Saltire,

15/03/2008 11:28:12
"It left them with several choices and while promoting Parks and shifting Paterson back to the wing was the least ambitious, it was always the most likely because it was tried and trusted, and meant less disruption."

Is stand-off not THE pivotal position? In which case, this was the most disruptive decision. Hadden may argue that it was either that, splitting up a solid centre partnership, or playing a centre on the wing. I would argue he should've taken an out-and-out winger to Italy and swapped like for like. That would have been least disruptive, especially given the amount of times the ball is likely to reach our wings today.

Ideally, Scotland will win today, and in the post match interview Hadden will announce his intention to step down, preferably with immediate effect.
40

jdships,

15/03/2008 11:38:28
38 Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

I cricised your earlier post but am now more than happy to applaud you for this one - excellent post.
I have never played at the highest level but was lucky enough to play in OZ and NZ at good club level and never experienced a similar situation as this at 1st XV level
These decisions will surely have an effect on players in a number of ways.
Trust in the coach/selectors, feelings of favouritsm,
change of tactics at the last minute etc.

I wish them all well as they are in a situation not of their own making.
41

BPM,

Edinburgh 15/03/2008 11:39:18
it looks as though the horses head in Franks bed did the trick, One sentence you will not hear today

"Great Dan Parks is in"

Please SRU do to Hadden what parks can't do to the ball and kick him into touch.
42

Major General Puffin-Stuff,

15/03/2008 11:48:06
But och! I backwards cast my e'e,
On prospects drear!
And forward, tho' I canna see,
I guess and fear!
43

Border Terrier,

terra firma 15/03/2008 12:00:00
My thoughts are with the Scottish team, and particularly with Chris Paterson. How must they, and he, be feeling? Does the SRU accept that the coach is responsible for raising a team's spirits - not dashing them to hell?

Come on Scotland! Do your best despite the mean minded school teacher...
44

The Rattler,

Peebles 15/03/2008 12:01:20
Two statements may be uttered today - one is as stated above

"Great, Dan Parks is at 10"

The other is:-

"Yes, I've got six numbers in the lottery"

I know which one is more likely.......
45

FooFoo,

Melbourne 15/03/2008 12:26:41
39, Sir Saltire.

I'm not saying I agree with the decision - I would far rather have seen Cairns given a run - but it is obviously the least disruptive change as they will have been running with this backline all week for when Parks comes on for Walker/Danielli later in the match.

Anyway, off to the pub. Come on Scotland!
46

BPM,

15/03/2008 13:18:14
11 Minutes gone. Parks two intercepted passes, 1 try

what an utter discrace
47

Dave58,

Aberdeen 15/03/2008 13:38:37
34 Mins

7-10 up - Better performance after a poor start, at least we are trying to play rugby today.
48

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 15/03/2008 13:49:51
3 Mins - Parks throws to Italy for interception
5 Mins - Parks not pouncing on ball clearlyhis almost allows Italy a try
10 mins - Park misses touch by long way
11 mins - Parks throws another interception, almost try but Italy get 5 metre scrum from which get penalty try
13 mins - Park overkicks by 20 metres
16 - Parks makes dreadful pass throws away possesion again
25 - Parks throws to stationary forward when attacking options available
29 - Parks knocks on, not spotted
30 - Parks kicks well???????
34 - Parks poor field cross kick gives away possesion

Just not good enough - not enough, not nearly enough positives to make up for these continual errors. Little or no contribution to tries.

49

eckythump,

15/03/2008 14:21:49
Italy intercept and score again. Hadden must be sacked for selecting Parks.
50

Slippylizard,

Rock 15/03/2008 14:24:02
Time for Hadden to go, why do we keep on giving this man a chance to humiliate us further.
51

eckythump,

15/03/2008 14:28:07
Hadden would have been sacked by now, but the SRFU are waiting for Brian Ashton to be available.
52

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 15/03/2008 14:41:28
44 - Parks 10 yards too long with kick
48 - Parks missed tackle, Andy Nicol scathing about weakness of it, leading to Italy penalty
50 - Parks clears to midst Itay backs losing 30 yards
57 - Parks 1st break forward, but spills

59 - Parks gives a 3rd interception when we were about to score and ITALY get try. Hadden still not taking him off!! 17 - 17 , could been so different without Parks

62 - Parks throws forward again
76 - Parks wastes great oppotunity, all men left, throws to only man on right

Surely both Parks and Haddens final game!!!!!
53

BPM,

15/03/2008 14:43:23
Final Score

Dan Parks 23 Scotland 20
54

eckythump,

15/03/2008 14:43:26
Almost glad Italy have won. There is surely no excuse for Hadden now. Compounding the selection of Parks by only having two backs replacements was criminally negligent. Alasdair Strokosch for Scotland was named man of the match my Andy Nichol, but he was surely run close by Dan Parks for Italy.
55

Robert Bonaly,

East Lothian 15/03/2008 14:44:17
Well done Hadden - go for God's sake go. We all knew what was going to happen with that clown Parks in the team - difference is we can all see it and you cannot and are being paid to do so. You deserve all you get coming to you now
56

Slippylizard,

Uddingston 15/03/2008 14:44:31
NOW can we get rid of Hadden, he has been useless, absolutely dreadful and the only people that refuse to see it are the SRU. He has to go now, at least he should have the DECENCY to resign.
57

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 14:52:08
Disaster. We had the eye-ties on toast. Haddens chickens came home to roost, like everybody said they would.

Pathetic.

At least we didn't get the spoon.
58

Lederblix,

15/03/2008 14:53:05
Could have put Lawson on, Blair to the wing where he has played well, and Mossy to 10 for the last quarter 0 couldn't have been any worse
59

Doc Martin,

Dundee 15/03/2008 14:54:43
I am seething, a game we quite clearly comtrolled apart from the scrum. Parks wasn't great, in fact he was awful! The ref was rank, bordering on bias, every 50/50 at the breakdown went Italy's way. says it all when a Scot is man of the match and we lose!

Mr Hadden please, please ,please go. Realise that you are not up to the job and leave!!
60

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 14:56:01
Poor Dan Parks. He'll be feeling like sh**.

61

Boyders,

Swansea 15/03/2008 14:56:33
Surely Hadden cant still be boss next week???? Mckie Hadden and Pants should be dropped on an island and napalmed.
Godman new 10 all the way!!!
62

jdships,

15/03/2008 14:57:00
Hadden wrote the script and Parks stuck to it ,
Surely FH has been found out now a brilliant schoolboy coach mainly because he had, at Merchi', probably the best crop of boys they had for years
Nothing , really, more to say is there ?

Just walk away quirtly Mr Hadden people will soon forget you as you have done nothing to be remembered by !
63

MBR,

15/03/2008 14:58:43
#54 spot on. How on earth was Parks allowed to stay on when we could have shuffled the backs just to get anyone else to stand off. The role of an international coach is selection, preparation, motivation and then making good use of substitutes; Hadden is incapable of any of these as the results show. The players lift themselves for one game and then back to the usual Hadden rubbish with mistakes made in all of the above areas which are his domain.
64

Scotch on the rocks,

Buckinghamshire 15/03/2008 14:59:52

Absolutely disgusted.

Every correspondant has agreed that Parks is not international quality and should not be even on the Scottish bench. Paterson should have played the entire match at 10. Cairns or De Luca should have played at outside centre and Evans should have been on the bench, not Henderson.

Frank Hadden bottled it and manufactured a defeat when we should have won comfortably. He must now resign. It is time to move forward with a new coach with ambition that will bring young talent through. He has failed to see what is so obvious to everyone else.

Does anyone disagree?


65

jockinexile,

in distress 15/03/2008 15:08:36
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Parks must have read the pre-match comments made by countless people (except FH) and decided to prove us right. The other 14 played well although still a lot of kicking the ball away and we don't have an international full back. Now watching Ireland go 10 up against England after 7 minutes. Might enjoy this one!!
66

Doc Martin,

Dundee 15/03/2008 15:11:34
I really hate calling for anyones job but surely nearly ever post knows how to pick a better Scotland team than Hadden. Does anyone think it should be shared between Robinson and Lineen?? A former forward and a former back??
67

BPM,

15/03/2008 15:13:50
The man of the match Should have gone to the Italian Dan Parks!
68

Dave Scott,

St Albans 15/03/2008 15:19:44
Yeah, I feel for DP but he blow 'hot and cold' too often ... however it's not as much as I feel for the rest of the team. I know DP will be giving himself a bad time and it's fair to say that the whole team lost a bit of discipline in the last 21 mins but that would have been easier to bear if we had still been 7 points to the good.
Given the disastrous attempts at long passes in the first half surely Hadden should have issued a mandatory "NO LONG PASSES GUYS".
I'm sorry DP, I think you mean well, but you're not adapting to the way the match is going. I'm sorry FH, I also think you're a 'good man', but you're not getting the team clicking at the calibre they need to be.
Jake White anyone?
69

Dave Scott,

St Albans 15/03/2008 15:27:37
Also thought the ref was a bit retentive regarding the penalty try ... but quite a few good 'spots' during the game. Thought he was lax with Italian play at the ruck, and there was a lot of 'taking players out'.

I's about taking your chances though, so WELL DONE ITALY.
70

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 15:35:59
Expectations are way too high. We were never likely to beat all of France, England Wales and Ireland, no matter what MC Haddock claimed.

We're good enough to beat Italy though, and we had them today.

Dan Parks does some good stuff but he just makes too many mistakes which hit the team in the gooleys - from being charged down against Argentina, the hack on against France, the hospital pass to De Luca against Ireland and today's interception try (one of several intercept/ speculative passes thrown)....

So why pick him over and over again? Surely after 42 caps you know what will happen? What message does it send out to Paterson when, at the first excuse, he's shifted to the wing?

A frustrating day.
71

Major General Puffin-Stuff,

15/03/2008 16:14:27
Another exemplary master class from Maestro DP, FH's Chosen One, in helping Scotland to another defeat - snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
72

Exiled Highlander,

15/03/2008 16:40:38
#60 -"Poor Dan Parks. He'll be feeling like sh**."

Well, he certainly played like it.....

What do you do when your coach screws with the mind of the most talented player in the squad? First he's not playing, then he's at full back, then he's at stand-off then he's in both positions in the same match. Yet CP has had a good 6N, and if he (and the rest of the team) had been able to get used to him playing consistently in a single position, who kows what might have happened.

Only one man is responsible for this deliberate sabotaging of the team's chances - step forward Frank Hadden.

And now get lost. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. We now all know which category you fall into.

DP - you disgust me, you pathetic cowardly incompetent wretch. At least try to salvage some miniscule degree of self-respect & pride from the wreckage of your incredibly incompetent international career and announce your immediate retirement. That way, I may be able to dredge up a tiny amount of sympathy for a man who has embarrassed himself so comprehensively on so many occasions - but you're such an egotistical idiot that I'm not holding my breath. With any luck, Scotland's new coach will laugh you out of Murrayfield.
73

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 17:55:28
Harsh 72, harsh. DP only does what's asked of him - don the Scotland no.10 shirt and play his best.

Someone else picks him.

BY the way - France to beat the Welshies (much as I'd like the boyos to win). the 66% rule says there is usually only 2 home victories on a 6N weekend.

74

my granny could play better,

SCOTLAND 15/03/2008 18:13:21
Well thats 73 comments ive just read through, and almost every single one calls for the departure of FH and DP. What does that tell you. Its time that the SRU sat up and listened to the people in Scotland who pay good money to watch our beloved Scotland lose week in week out. One victory in the 6 nations is simply not good enough. Parks had yet another horrendous performance. Come on FH, walk away NOW, and take your wee pal DP with you. I know of someone in Australia who saw Parks play club rugby down under. He struggled to get a game at club level because of his poor performances. So how is it that he is good enough to play international rugby here.If both Parks and FH are still in office later this year, i think its safe to say that the SRU will find an empty Murrayfield. I for one will not be prepared to pay to watch pants. Shopping with the wife appeals to me more at the moment!!!!!
75

Exiled Highlander,

15/03/2008 18:21:15
#73 - Agreed. Need occasionally to take deep breath before typing. The first sentence of my final para was out of order. Other than that, I stand by what I've said. DP clearly has no dignity, otherwise he wouldn't put himself forward for ritual humiliation every time he puts on the Scotland jersey. I can't play rugby, and I'm still a better player than him!
76

Leon MacRackpipe, catering and medical manager,

15/03/2008 19:30:22
Ah well, I didn't even win my bet on France to upset Wales!!

Tchoch!

Well done the boyos though. Stuck inside tonight, otherwise might be tempted to hit the M4 (down south right now).

 

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