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Published Date: 11 March 2009
The Scotsman's weekly Fanzone feature, where supporters of all 12 SPL football clubs give their views on the state of their clubs.


ABERDEEN

If, and I must stress IF, Aberdeen get to the Scottish Cup final this season, we will have faced no club higher than around bottom of the SPL en route. Nobody could complain that we haven't had a fortuitous cup draw.

Yet there are no jumps for joy at avoiding the big teams any more, after defeats to Queen's Park and Queen of the South, struggles against lower-league teams and horsings from similar-sized rivals in past cup runs under Jimmy Calderwood's charge. It's all very confusing, though, as this time last season we beat Celtic at Parkhead in our glorious run to humiliation.

Absolutely nothing is being taken for granted in Aberdeen's city and shire. We believe we can beat anyone and lose to anyone – you don't get much fairer than that.

Craig Stewart
www.aberdeen-mad.co.uk




CELTIC

No wonder I drink! Once again the only thing consistent about our season is our inconsistency. There was absolutely nothing positive to take from Saturday's performance. St Mirren won on sheer grit and determination; we lost because we couldn't be bothered.

It is a tough couple of weeks coming up; which we go into with our forward line missing (literally). I'm surprised Gordon has not used more of the reserves. After all, he threw in Sheridan during our early-season injury crisis to good effect. If nothing else, they will add enthusiasm and work-rate which was lacking on Saturday.

Next up is the cup final against the forces of darkness. Not been a happy hunting ground recently against Rangers and the outcome is dependent on which Celtic turn up. Let's hope we use Saturday's disappointment to good effect.

Dave Devine



DUNDEE UNITED

It has to be said that there's nothing like a United-free Saturday to hammer it home that you are no longer in the Scottish Cup! While the remaining teams play it out, you are left watching from the sidelines pondering what might have been. That said, it wasn't a bad week all in all. United's trip to Falkirk proved to be a good night for the Shed.

As grateful as all Arabs are for the gesture, I still don't fully understand what Tam Scobbie was thinking of as he punched the ball away, but the resultant penalty was dispatched with aplomb by a resurgent Craig Conway.

Here's hoping we take the same fighting spirit to Fir Park on Saturday. And hopefully Falkirk beat the drop as John Hughes' team are a good footballing side.

Hamish Mackintosh
www.dundeeunited-mad.co.uk




FALKIRK

A return to Hampden for a second national cup semi-final in the same season – for the first time in the club's history – is just the lift Bairns fans needed in a week that saw us hit rock bottom of the SPL. Backed to the hilt by our boisterous travelling support, Falkirk were well worth their 1-0 victory in the first of a series of head-to-heads with Terry Butcher's rejuvenated Inverness side. The two league games to come will have a major bearing on both clubs' survival hopes, but for now we can relish the cup victory and dream of making the final.

Yogi now has an interesting decision to make – does he stick with Carl Finnigan, Steve Lovell and Mark Stewart or change back to the regular forward duo. Me? I would stick because I think Finnigan and Stewart inject some real pace.

Brian Guthrie
www.bairnstrust.com




HAMILTON ACCIES

What a pity. Accies have exceeded expectations this season and have adapted reasonably well to Premier League life. So on Sunday they got the chance to show the nation's television viewers what they're made of and it all fell flat. Already missing several key men with injury, Billy Reid had to cope with losing another three players by half-time. Richard Offiong then limped off just after the start of the second half and we were down to ten men and chasing shadows.

Still, Accies have done well to reach the quarter-final stage of both national cup competitions, but to get away draws at Rangers in both was unbelievable bad luck. Nice for the club's finances, of course, but not games that gave us much chance of getting to a very rare semi-final. Statistically, incidentally, the odds of getting the same draw were 169-1.

Gilbert Mowat



HEARTS

If Stephen Hughes truly believes we were "lucky" to win against a "brilliant" Motherwell side, I can only assume that things look very different when you are on the pitch. His assessment just sounded like sour grapes, echoing the rather pathetic post-match appraisal from McGhee. Of course, the Motherwell manager was merely following in the footsteps of other managers who have been unable to gracefully accept defeat at our hands.

The lack of respect is embarrassing. A lot of our performances have been pretty uninspired this season, but none of the teams trying to challenge us for third place have been up to much either. Of course, one of the most deluded and ungracious opponents is Mixu, and I can only hope that we will be hearing his usual bleatings come this time next week.

Sandy Leonard



HIBERNIAN

"Can we play you every week" should have been the shout from the fans after last week's victory at Hamilton saw Hibs secure a third successive win over the SPL new boys. However, such is the depressing nature of our play at the moment, even the supporters failed to rise to the occasion in the terracing-humour stakes.

It was great to get three points, not only to bring a little joy to the freezing travelling fans, but also to the players and management who have not had to look too far to find criticism this season. But the huge test comes in three days' time when Hearts roll up to Easter Road. If ever Hibs had a chance to shut up their many critics, then this is it. With them being on a decent run of single-goal wins, Mixu should have Hibs fired up and ready to run that lot ragged from the word go.

Eddie Henderson
www.hibs.net




INVERNESS CT

We have experienced the highs and lows of the penalty spot in our last two games, from the euphoria of Ibrox to the low of being dumped out of the Scottish Cup. The snatching of three points against Rangers was as much a surprise to us as it was the rest of the SPL. Having been penned in for almost all of the game, we rode our luck and took our chance at the best possible time – right at the end of the game.

So, we went into the Scottish Cup quarter-final with this fantastic result behind us only to suffer in the way that Rangers did by going down at home to a penalty against Falkirk. Chances came and went and it was clear it wasn't going to be our day. How strange football is when we can beat the league leaders away and lose to the bottom club at home.

Dave 'Gringo' Wilson
www.caleythistleonline.com




KILMARNOCK

With no football on the go this week for us it was a chance to relax and reflect on what the season has brought us so far. On the signing front, it looks like we are offering a contract to Kiwi Steven Old, who we've had on trial for a few weeks. The big centre-half is just what JJ is looking for, but we will have to wait and see what happens with the work-permit situation.

Our game at Inverness on Saturday is the proverbial six pointer and another defeat would spell disaster for us. We cannot continue losing games to the teams below us as our current form is among the worst in the league. Anyone who thinks we should not be considered relegation candidates wants their head looked at. With the squad we have, we should stay up, but now is the time for them to prove their worth.

Barry Richmond
www.killiefc.com




MOTHERWELL

No game at the weekend meant players and fans alike could pause for breath and look forward to the weeks ahead.

Once again we are approaching the crucial SPL split and

it has to be said that the system is strange, the fixtures are uneven and the rest of Europe, as much as they care about us, probably thinks we're weird. Then again, any kind of excitement is better than none. Without the split there would be nothing to play for in mid-table but as it stands every club will be playing competitive matches for weeks to come.

For Motherwell, making the top six would be a good achievement after our disappointing run before Christmas. We might not be challenging for Europe now, but should we squeeze into the top half, then the fight will be on.

Derek Wilson
www.firparkcorner.com


RANGERS

A week of football with almost everything, including something no Rangers fan wanted: a toothless and avoidable home defeat to the league's bottom side. Whether this will ultimately cost us the title will be seen in May, but it does give free oxygen to a stuttering and erratic Celtic who are eminently beatable.

Sunday's easy victory against a depleted Hamilton Accies side provides a perfect lead-in to this Sunday's League Cup final. Stevie Whittaker showed he doesn't score ordinary goals amid rare flashes of the talent which brought him to Ibrox. Our Northern Irish 20-somethings both showed they can add value and find the net, Aaron Niguez staked his claim and, if our defence plays to form, there is room for both optimism and improvement.

Stephen Smith
www.rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk




ST MIRREN

What a difference a week makes. Who'd have thought, just seven days after being hammered by Celtic, we'd be turfing them out of the Scottish Cup? For the first time in a generation we've beaten Celtic – and we've made it through to the semi-finals. It's almost too much to take in. It was a fine performance as we simply outplayed them – it was nothing to do with our apparently bumpy pitch as Pat Nevin seems to think.

Everyone knew we'd probably end up being paired with Rangers in the semis – and it suits me just fine. On Saturday we were underdogs, no-hopers just there to make up the numbers. It'll be the same when we head to Hampden – and that's when we are at our best. Had we got Falkirk we'd probably have lost as most folk would have fancied us to win, but facing Rangers is different.

Stuart Gillespie
www.stmirren-mad.co.uk




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jerrymanders,

11/03/2009 00:31:33
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Yes, your team are Mordor.
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Shantaram,

11/03/2009 00:37:51
Forces of Darkness? - At least it ain't racist or sectarian.
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jerrymanders,

11/03/2009 00:46:55
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No it was the quality of the posters.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 07:10:06
I predict that we'll see a right good game on Sunday.
Pacey skillful football from the champions against walter's 'step by step' philosophy.

I think we'll get the most scoring opportunities, and it will come down to the finishing. Scot McDonald aside-ish, our strikers are in the most dreadful drought, and you wouldn't bet against us missing a hatful before 'Boyd (pen)'.

Jan needs to show more composure inside the box and rediscover he killer instinct. If our front men can put our chances away, and the midfield can throw in two or three goals, the champions could leave the threadbears in disaster city.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 08:07:36
Memory...the past is a foreign land.
Tis better to stick to certainty, and in the here and now, the Celts are top of the league and heading for 4 in a row.

Overall, we haven't achieved optimum performance nearly enough this season, but we have seen it in flashes, and in the lead up to the SC defeat, we were beginning to see a bit more of what we are capable of.

The bhoys learnt a valuable lesson last weekend - complacency ? moi ? - and methinks will on Sunday return to where they left off at rugby park : winning.

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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 09:29:54
Smith is giving the impression that he's toying between Boydchenko and Laugherty....but I think boydthebench has had his chips at ibrox.

I think Smith has finally brought in the jury on Boydchenko, and he sees him now as a squad player.
There remains a section of the threadbears support who still hold a candle (slight snigger) to boydchenko's prowess when it comes to the likes of Queen of the South and such like, but, as Smith says, there just isn't enough in his all round game, and against superior opposition, he rarely scores.

Taxi for boydchenko come the summer methinks. Trouble is, the jury was still out when that tasty January offer came in from Eck....I just wonder what quality of suitors will be beating a path to minty's door in June....Killie ? Falkirk ? £500k ?
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 09:43:19
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I think the last two games have been even stevens to be quite honest. The 1v0 game at ibrox was as tight as a naff's chuff, but Artur made a glorious save from boydchenko , and skippy scored a world class goal.
That was the difference over the ninety minutes.

In the last game at paradise, much was said about Celtic edging it in the first half and the threadbears "dominating" the second half.

In the that second half, Boruc had 1 save to make from a rearrangerz player, to wit, a strong header from Weirisome from a set piece.
That wiz the extent of the rearrangerz' domination in terms of product.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 09:51:44
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Laugh and the world laugherties with you.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 09:56:44
I am still quite stunned when I cast my mind back to this time last year when the rearrangerz started their "rearranging" campaign, that is , the fixture rearrangement that they NEVER asked for but kicked up hell about when it wasn't granted...the decision which minty assured us had the whole world stopping to laugh at the sfa ...from the paddy (chuckle) fields of the far east to the snow capped Andies, people everywhere were rolling on the floor laughing because the sfa didn't rearrange the fixture list to suit ..well..the rearrangerz.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 10:04:05
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If one shot on target constitutes "running the second half", I'll take that for Sunday ...no brainer.
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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 10:43:35
I agree...the forces of darkness is inappropriate.

i much prefer Scotlands Shame
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Jimmy Pop,

11/03/2009 11:18:15
'Forces of Darkness' isn't offensive. But since (some) Sellik fans started pretending to be offended by just about anything which Rangers fans sing, it was inevitable it would go this way.

Scottish football= moribund mess.
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 11/03/2009 12:00:59
Educator, more like Propaganda for RFC!

Tell me something, after the Rangers Supporters fantastic performance in Manchester, especially their result against the Mancs police, do you really believe that folk will think the stuff you have written in you rearlier post is fair and objective? You have got to be kidding! You only have to go outside Ibrox home end on a match day too see some of the racist propaganda your supporters lap up, and as for opitch invasions and intimidation, your supporters are top of the league!

Anyway in terms of the football Celtic are going to wallop you 5 goals to 1. Hopefully Boyd will be absent because of his attitude and VOH, Samaras and McDonald will hit form in front of goals.

I have no doubt we are due a good victory over the forces of darkness.

Come on the Celts.


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Jimmy Pop,

11/03/2009 12:05:19
#37 Boring, boring, boring.

'Yooz ur wurser!'

Scottish football is dying and it's myopic souls like you who are killing it.

Still, as you are predicting a 5-1 win for Celtic, I'll be kind and put it down to a lunchtime drink!
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 12:12:10
How prescient my post at 23 now appears following breaking news in the last hour that boydchenko's been telt tae get on his elkie telky out of minty park.

Seems that boydchenko's high estimation of himself isn't shared by walter & co, and he threw his nappy out the pram following his relegation to the bench for a home match against a much depleted hamilton side.

Playing at home against the injury ravaged spl newcomers is food 'n' drink tae boydchenko : that is exactly his kinda gig.
Boydchenko saw a great opportunity furra hatrick which would have boosted his greatly misleading goals tally go a begging.

Seems Walter think boydchenko is just a big haddie and not worthy of consideration for a regular first team spot.

Minty will be gutted that boydchenko turned his nose up to Big Eck ....who will offer £3.8m for a player that cannae get a game for scotland, and cannae get a game ahead of laugherty ?
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LiviGuy,

Glasgow 11/03/2009 12:20:21
So Jim Devine thinks Rangers are the forces of Darkness. I would advise him to look at the reaction on his team's supporters message boards to the murder two soldiers and the policeman in Northern Ireland to open his eyes as to who the real Forces of Darkness are in this country.
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stefano,

Brum 11/03/2009 12:20:31
#1, why do you think Edgar is a numpty?

Most Bears I know think he does a very good job, one which the Club miserably fails to do.
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Barnacle Bill,

11/03/2009 12:35:05
STS

Boyd has never really struck me as a shoe in for a starting place in the 1st eleven. As you point out he does have the ability to score against the 'smaller' teams when starting but I have always seen him as being of more use as an impact player from the bench. Against stronger teams he has struggled against more organised defences when starting, he appears to need to need the advantage of his opposition having an hours play in their legs. The fact that he offers little in the way of bringing others into the game or movement all count against him against better sides.

I think his previous run as a starter may have had more to do with injuries to others and the possibility of increasing his value prior to the window may have had more to do with his selection than his own ability.
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 11/03/2009 12:54:47
LiviGuy,

Lets put it on the record on this message board, 99.99%of Celtic fans are disgusted by the murders of two soldiers and the policeman in NI. It is disgusting that any so called Celtic fans are supporting the murderers who carried out these actions on any message board. Yes they disgust me. They are vile and tarnish the name of the club.
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 13:01:27
40 - The Forces of Darkness on these threads are those who try to point score from the murders of 3 people.

You are the dark hearted cretin who I'm talking about!

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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 13:18:54
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I think the fact that the threadbears have, in the last few days, announced redundancies for non-playing staff suggests that their need to sell in January was no exaggeration.

And in any case, the rearrangerz denied that every player without exception was up for grabs.

The press picked up on the story from an agent. The threadbears issued a statement effectively calling the agent a liar.

The agent then gave a detailed statement to the press that he had been told to put the feelers out for every player at ibrox, no exceptions, and added that he wasn't the only agent given the same instruction AND that he could produce witnesses.

Silence from rearrangerz....and they haven't said another word about it.
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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 13:25:47
Boyd(penalty) gets dropped from the team and takes the huff.

Nothing new there.

Maybe, he is refusing to play for "Walter" until he is sacked and a new guy is brought in.

Possibly, the lap tops should gather round and put pressure on "Walter" to go back "cap in hand" to Boyd(penalty) and get him back in the team.

Nah....thats a ridiculous suggestion.
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LiviGuy,

Glasgow 11/03/2009 13:26:32
45 - For the record, I believe you that the majority of Celtic fans, like yourself, are disgusted by the events in Northern Ireland, but, a sizeable number continue to tolerate, or even join in IRA songs like 'Boys of the Old Brigade, particularly at away games.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 13:26:53
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Tell that to the poor bar stewards that are getting their jotters.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 13:29:35
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I would like to see the back of those songs, but we are talking about at most three hundred people audible only at the away game.

If the rearrangerz could reduce their problems to a few hundred drunks slabbering on about the UDA, I don't think that the club would attract anything like the adverse publicity that it does.
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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 13:34:49
I aint too fussed about the Boyd(penalty) incident either.

The rest of the players have just had a shot across their bows.

When you are put up for sale....its best that yer selt...or else
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Barnacle Bill,

11/03/2009 13:41:16
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Those 'bar stewards' must have been on pretty impressive wages if them being offered redundancy packages is going to alleviate the debt problems!

As for the agents claims that 'every player without exception was up for grabs', I think any player at most clubs these days is 'up for grabs', that doesn't mean at any price though. Which players at Celtic are not 'up for grabs' at the right price? I'm dubious as to how reliable a source a football agent is, judging by the lack of leavers in the window he didn't do a very good job, maybe Celtic were using him to try to punt Bobo and Gravestone.
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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 13:43:39
(H)Oplus...i thought that Boyd(penalty) went on the park for a rest.

looks that way
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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 13:55:18
#60 - Celtic also have a tall young Irish striker called Cillian Sheridan.

Has goals to game ratio exceeds that of Laugherty. He looks like a better overall prospect too.

He's not quite good enough for our first team, so we loaned him out.

Mind you, standards at the 3 in a row champions are higher than at the brox. You have another striker who's likely to play on Sunday who was previously deemed not good enough to play for Celtic.

At least Sheridan was not at a cost of a cool 4m....that would be deemed a dreadful signing.
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LiviGuy,

Glasgow 11/03/2009 14:32:28
61 - Lafferty's goal to games ration might not be as good as Motherwell's Cillian Sheridan, but it sure is a lot better than that of Samaras and Vennegoor of Hesselink, bought at combined cost of 7M. Now that is a colossal wast of money.
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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 14:40:32
#62 - yep, both guys have been underperforming this season.

however big JVOH was part of a 50+ goal partnership with McDonald last season.

Samaras is really the back up guy. He still has more goals to game time than Misser. Getting rid of Misser for 3m and brining in Samaras for 1m (scorer of more goals) as your back up was actually good business.

Unfortunately, the strike partnership of Skippy and JVoH has been poor and nothing like the 50+ goal partnership of last season. They scored goals against the likes of AC Milan and Barca and killed off ReaRangers championship challenge.

Still - even with misfiring strikers, Celtic still appear ahead of ReaRangers on goals scored and points on the board. This with the Rangers deadly due of Boyd(penalty) and misser.

Celtics A game is much the better of the 2 teams and this is borne out by the fact that Celtic have underperformed mostly, yet remain in pole position.

Hopefully the strikers will find their form and Sunday, along with the rest of the season will be a formality.

Here's hoping.

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Riot_Survivor,

11/03/2009 15:59:01
pundit/flatulator...whatever dolly you're playing with today.

my point is that both are big raw young guys with a lot to prove if they will go on and make it in the game.

i don't see much between them at the moment.

certainly not 4m

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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 11/03/2009 15:59:19

I regret the fact that a handful of Celtic fans have been involved unsavory incidents in the past, but I really don’t need a lecture from Rangers fans after Mancs last year, and considering the fact that your supporters have murdered, yes murdered not just assaulted, over half a dozen Celtic fans in the last 10-15 years before or after games.

Yes and on the football, Celtic will click on Sunday and shaft you lot 5v1 easy.

Cheers
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 16:13:22
When both team expressed an interest in lafferty, I checked him out on youtube and was impressed with what i seen - good movement, good skill and good finisher. Still a young guy, he has the attributes to become a top player. But he will blow hot and cold and sticking him out on the wing to accomodate for Boyd (sub)/(pen) wil do his career no good. Along with Naismith and young Fleck, the threadbares have a very Celticesque forward line there (well apart from their ugly coupons)....its no wonder that Walter was keen to get Boyd (sub)/(pen) out the door and 3 million in to give to the bayliffs.

Shame it didn't work out for everyone involved, especially Burley......3 months in England and 'Smiler' would have become Boyd (sub, not used) and never to be heard of again. Less column inches than Steven Thompson!
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 16:36:19
"0.001 % of Rangers fans misbehaved in Manchester, get over it."

I doubt thats accurate, however, even if it is, they done it in such remarkable style that nobody who witnessed the national news that night or even the next few days will be likely to forget about it for a long, long, long, and once again....very long time!

Thats the facts, and all your required to do is suck it up and then we can all be on our way!
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 16:38:51
Moderator - why was 71 removed......there was nothing offensive in that?
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 11/03/2009 16:52:44

Educator you need to read some objective information not the propaganda which seems to be your source, stop sensationalizing Celtic misdeeds and ignoring some of the terrible things your supporters have done. In the last 15 years to my knowledge not one Rangers fan has been murdered by Celtic fans, if they have please supply the evidence?

Anyway I know very well that Celtic fans have and can misbehave, but I just can’t believe your high and mighty attitude when you look at the behavior of your supporters!
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 17:10:49
Strachan has ruled out robson for the final, so looks like we'll have hartley and brown in the middle.

There's talk that Mark Wilson will be available for selection, but after a two month lay-off, I'd be horrified if he got the nod ahead of O'Dea.
O'Dea hasn't had many games this season, 10 in total including substitute appearances, and to make matters worse they've been scattered around.

But thankfully he got 90 minutes under his belt last week and was far from our worst performer ...in fact, I thought he was one of our better players.
He's also played in Milan in the second leg of a last 16 showdown with AC, a game which went to extra time...a CIS final, even an OF CIS final is little by comparison. Furthermore, Neil Lennon thinks he's improved as a player over the last year.
So all in all, I'll be quite happy to see Darren filling the LB berth on Sunday.
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 17:15:54
I'd actually prefer to see him filling the left centre-back berth starting..........er about as soon as we find a left-back!

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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 17:25:20
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I would say that O'Dea's distribution can be a bit wayword. Lack of games is clearly a factor there as he can't read very clearly where to put the long ball.
His long ball accuracy has been poor, but getting that 90 minutes last weekend has hopefully helped him in that respect.
But he loves to get forward and is always giving the winger options after laying off the short pass.
Pace isn't a strong point, but the backline will I think sit a bit deeper than usual on Sunday.
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 17:27:14
Except your manager never seems to have the cahones to field a bona-fide winger against us. Your wide-men are usually McCullogh,, Whittaker or The Camel. Intended to play as a second full-back in order to stifle our bona fide wingers.

Still, you can live in hope that he grows a pair.....we certainly do!
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Charles Maurice De Talleyrand,

11/03/2009 17:28:38
79 - He has wanted to go out on loan in Jan AND last summer. Strachan had enough sense to knock it on the head and a good job too!
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11/03/2009 17:39:15
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And who will 'bomb' down the wings ?

I think Lafferty is too lightweight : he's tall and skinny, and will struggle to find any space/time on the ball with the physical presence of McManus and Caldwell. I think Lafferty will get hooked at HT or shortly after.

Miller has pace but is amongst the worst strikers ever to have played for either of the OF in terms of goals.
He's more useful in teeing someone else up, but if Laughs is the terget man, misser's efforts will have little end product.

Miller does score the odd goal here and there, and so he might just bag one on Sunday ...but it's much,much, more likely that he won't.

For my money, the threadbears will have to look at the midfield for goals, or a header from a set piece, the latter in my view being the most promising source of a goal furra threadberz.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/03/2009 19:12:29
My biggest hope is that WS and McCoist have the balls to send out a 4-4-2 on Sunday, and that we see two teams having a go at each other and actually trying to win the game. After all, it's a Cup Final and there has to be a winner on the day.

Celtic were effectively 4-5-1 at Ibrox at Xmas, and scraped a 1-0 victory, while Rangers started out as 4-5-1 recently at Celtic Park, but didn't boss the game until the second half when they switched to something more like a 4-4-2.

I think that the OF owe us a skilful and entertaining feast of attacking football, and this is the perfect opportunity. In fact, there is NO excuse for taking a safety-first stance at Hampden, and if Rangers line-up with a defensive set-up, then part of me will have very little sympathy if they come unstuck.

There is a prevailing logic within much of Scottish football that if both teams line up 4-4-2, then Celtic hold the aces and will prove too strong.

Now is the time for Rangers to lay waste to this assertion, and to claim the first part of what could be a remarkable treble.
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11/03/2009 19:49:21
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I don't really buy this idea that "ally's in charge".
A loada old cobblers if you ask me.
Walter is the manager and he carries the can, and that's the top and bottom of it.

Mcoist might very well propose a team and tactics, but Walter will have to give approval. If Smith saw something in the line-up and felt that jester had made a glaring oversight somewhere which left the threadberz highly vulnerable somewhere, would he just keep schtoom ?
Not on your nelly. This is an OF final, and Smith will be desperate to win it. The team that the rearrangerz field will have been given Walter's seal of approval.

Whatismore is that walter will authorise any changes of tactics/substitutions during the game. Again, McOIST might very well make proposals, but Smith will have the final say, and might even take the initiative if he feels he has to.

It stretches credulity beyond breaking point that the structure of command would be anything else.
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11/03/2009 19:58:25
Having said that, I think Smith will go 4-4-2. I don't think he'd find the fans very forgiving if he packs the midfield and tries for a win by the odd goal only to end up losing.

If he loses despite having a right go, the fans I believe will be more accepting of the defeat rather than torturing themselves with the wild notion that a 4-4-2 would have won the day.
Few if any will curse Smith for not sticking to a somnolent 4-5-1 should they lose going for it on a 4-4-2....the only worry for Smith will be that if Celtic's flair players are right on song AND the strikers put the chances away, the final could be all but over inside the first thirty minutes.
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11/03/2009 20:21:50
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Cheers for the link...what a match!
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11/03/2009 20:27:45
Superb football match...can't wait for the second half...this match ain't over by a long shot.
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Shape to Shoot,

11/03/2009 22:39:48
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Pundit, Minty is the largest cow-dunger ever seen in the Scottish game by a a hundred country miles.

Check out his 'little house on the prairie' type plot when minty describes declining an offer for rearrangerz when AT THE LAST MINUTE Minty enquired what they intended to do with the club, and on hearing the response that they wanted to turn ibrox into flats or some such p1sh, Minty 'heroically' walked out on the deal.

He is a dangerous fantasist if you ask me. The 'father to son' relationship being punted through the media vis a vis Smith and Mcoist is exactly the kind of sickly sweet scenario that Minty loves to invent.
He is a head-case. He has taken you're club to the brink of bankruptsy once before, and has done so again , but the banks are now far less forgiving.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/03/2009 22:49:15
Four English teams into the CL last eight yet again, proving The Premiership as the strongest domestic league on the planet. Celtic and Rangers are on the outside looking in, but I doubt that the invite will ever drop through the letter boxes of Ibrox or CP.

Returning to domestic matters, I'm sure that Ally McCoist IS given extra coaching and tactical responsibilities for domestic cup matches, but I very much expect that he makes those decisions in tandem with WS himself, who doubtlessly remains the ultimate authority on such matters.

The hope is, doubtlessly, that AM can slot seamlessly into the gap left behind when WS calls it a day, whether it's at the end of this season, or more probably, a year later. The consequent lack of upheaval, and the minimal financial outlay, must seem very attractive to SDM in particular in these troubled times.

As for Boyd, it hardly matters whether there has been freah fallout or not, although I would personally subscribe to the view that there is no smoke without fire. Regardless of any new developments, WS was in the press today stating that there is "nothing enigmatic" regarding Boyd, and that the simple fact is that his goalscoring ability does not make up for his shortcomings in almost every other area. It would seem odds on that Boyd will leave this coming summer, which I don't personally see as a huge loss.
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11/03/2009 22:50:51
Patrick

"Minty 'heroically' walked out on the deal."

Given his condition, that truly would have been heroic.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/03/2009 22:58:41
invictager

Who can say? None of us can state with any certainty how last season's finals would have panned out had a player other than Boyd been on the pitch on those afternoons.

What we can say is that it took other players as well as Boyd to get us to those finals in the first place. I can also remember some huge games where I cursed the fact that the chances had fallen to Boyd, particularly OF matches and European ties (CL last 16 tie V Villareal springs to mind).

So for me definitely a player we can live without.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/03/2009 23:12:03
pundit

You make a relevant point. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Lafferty has been signed as a replacement for Boyd. RFC would hope to get roughly the same money for Boyd that they splashed out for Lafferty.

Miller and Lafferty could work, although in the longer run, I would foresee probably Naismith and Fleck battling it out to partner Lafferty up front.
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11/03/2009 23:18:14
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Bemused ...£3.8m for a player who over the course of a season has been deemed unfit for Scotland and unfit for his own club ?

Lucky to get £2m for boydchenko now methinks....very lucky...he looks solidly like killie class.

Pity for Minty that the jury's come out in advance of the summer window.
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11/03/2009 23:22:42
invictager

I reckon Lafferty will start on Sunday. Novo isn't match fit, but he is an impact player and could well be on the bench.

Boyd gets his share of goals for sure, although only against a certain level of opposition. The bottom line though is that, when he isn't scoring, such as in the last few games, he contributes less than zero.

Players like Miller and Novo, and young Fleck for that matter, will work hard and harass defenders even when the opposition are in possession. Boyd is far too lazy, with an attitude that leaves a lot to be desired.
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11/03/2009 23:24:45
Patrick

That's still double what Samaras or VoH are worth these days :)
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