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Published Date: 12 June 2009
FIRST Minister Alex Salmond yesterday told MSPs he could not intervene to help save Scotland's football clubs.
Liberal Democrat leader Tavish Scott highlighted the cash crisis facing Scottish Premier League clubs at First Minister's Questions following the near collapse of sports broadcaster Setanta .

However, Mr Salmond – a keen Heart
s supporter – said there was nothing he could do, although he was "extremely concerned".

He told MSPs he could not give clubs public money and he "couldn't see any role for the Scottish Government".

However, he said if Mr Scott could come up with any ideas on how he could help he would be willing to intervene.

Mr Salmond added he would raise the issue at a meeting he held yesterday with the Scottish Football Association, arranged before the Setanta crisis.

Mr Scott later said he was astonished the First Minister had "stayed on the sidelines". He added: "In a game of two halves, the First Minister has decided not to playthe first 45 minutes."

Mr Scott pointed out that for some smaller football clubs the TV income is more than 60 per cent of their turnover.

He claimed Mr Salmond was "not normally shy" to intervene on any subject, including the recent travails of the reality television star Susan Boyle.

And he asked when the sports minister would sit down with the parties to discuss the different options,

saying: "If Setanta folds, here in Scotland there will be a Dutch auction for the TV rights."

There are continued concerns that the £13.5 million income to Scottish football could drop below £5m and Mr Scott said that the most likely bidder, Sky, would have a monopoly.

"If that is not bad enough, Clydesdale Bank's sponsorship could be reviewed if the TV cameras are switched off," he said.

Setanta yesterday issued a statement saying it was not in administration, but had suspended all new customer subscriptions.

Senior management are continuing attempts to refinance the company, which screens Scottish Premier League matches and other sports.

No Mickey Mouse rescue

SETANTA'S hopes of being rescued by a buy-out by Disney-owned broadcaster ESPN were dashed last night.

ESPN has ruled out any purchase of the cash-strapped Irish firm, whose fate should be decided within the next few days, but could be interested in acquiring the rights to several sports if Setanta goes into administration.

An ESPN spokesman confirmed: "We currently have no plans to buy Setanta."

ESPN did bid for the English Premier League rights from 2010-13, but lost out to Sky, which won five packages, and Setanta, which won the other, for 23 live games a year.

If Setanta does go under, the broadcast rights revert to the Premier League, which will auction them off again.

Setanta said yesterday it was not in administration, but was continuing in its efforts to refinance the company.

The broadcaster has been looking to reduce its rights bills, raise cash from investors, or even sell a stake to another company.

Deloitte has been lined up as administrator if the rescue efforts fail.





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  • Last Updated: 11 June 2009 9:31 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: SPL troubles
 
1

Iainbroch,

12/06/2009 00:25:44
So Lavish Tavish wants to use scarce Tax Payers money on Football clubs! Eeejit!
2

Jock Sport ,

12/06/2009 00:42:03
Salmond may be a do nothing player, but Tavish Scott needs to get Real
3

Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 00:46:47
Maybe Tavish could volunteer to give the proceeds of his taxpayer funded property portfolio in Edinburgh to Setanta ? Nah thought not.
4

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 12/06/2009 00:48:18
The Lib Dems under Tavish Scott have become nothing more than headline politicians, just as they were in the dying days of Nicol Stephen's reign (remember him?). Tavish is a liability. The Lib Dems are rapidly becoming a non-entity in Scottish politics.
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Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 12/06/2009 00:55:32
Football is a highly commercial entertainment which pays massive amounts of money to its performers and their stage directors whilst screwing every possible penny out of its gullible supporters with vastly overpriced merchandise and ludicrous admission prices. These large profligate corporations (which have the cheek to call themselves "clubs"!) also enjoy continuous free advertising and promotion through the media as well as mind-boggling financial support from Sportscotland. They get all this on a plate yet they still allow themselves to be so vulnerable to bad business decisions in an Irish boardroom?

It's high time the Scottish Government and Scottish local authorities stopped pouring taxpayers' money into the bottomless pockets of foreign players managers and shareholders and put far greater resources into indigenous sports which put so much back into the community.

Shinty, of course, would be an excellent place to start and, if more people were encouraged to watch and enjoy one of the fastest and most exciting team sports on the planet, perhaps the appeal of a bunch of drug-using social misfits poncing around a tiny pitch with a large, slow-moving ball would lose its appeal.




6

Fifi la Bonbon,

12/06/2009 00:55:48
The danger is that he might just be tempted to put money into subsidising football players' wages if he could persuade them to wear.... no - not even Mister Salmond would be daft enough.

Tavish Scott would, though!
7

Fifi la Bonbon,

12/06/2009 00:58:37
#7 - absolutely right, and beautifully put, but I bet the world of shinty wouldn't be averse to the appeal of a bunch of drug-using social misfits poncing around if the money was right.
8

Iainbroch,

12/06/2009 01:11:43
re9

Now now is that any way to talk about Team GB Olympians!
9

Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 01:17:03
#7
Erk Shinty ! No wonder you're on the shelf.
Football is overpriced though. Total rip off. But still brilliant ! And the clubs have been compensated by the SFA / SPL /whoever for the £3m shortfall of Setanta. So someone obviously knows what they're doing somewhere. I didn't know that our government were putting money into Scottish football. Live and learn.
10

Edward,

12/06/2009 01:34:18
What is with Tavish Scott?
Does he practice in front of a mirror each morning to be a complete and utter idiot or what?
First of all Setanta is a broadcaster - I thought the Scottish Government couldnt get involved in such matters?
Secondly the contracts between the broadcaster and the Scottish Premier League is outwith the Scottish Governments remit, there is not mechanism for the Scottish Government to get involved.
Thirdly why would ANY Government bail out, either a Broadcater, A Footbal League or Football Clubs, because either or all couldnt get round a table to agree n a workable contract.
Tavish Scott should get real instead of grandstanding!
11

Edward,

12/06/2009 01:40:56
When Setanta advised the SPL that the contract as it was ,was untenable. The SPL should have cottoned on to the idea that the broadcaster, didnt have any room to manouver. It was a simple case of 'You want the money, we cant pay the money, what money can you pay?' If the SPL had any brains, they could have negotiated a new contract that initially wold mean less money, but they could have insisted in a shareholding as a sweetener. This would have given them a chunk of a broadcaster, that they had an interest in and may have paid dividends if and when the good times return
Missed opportunity!
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 01:58:30



For once I agree with Alex Salmond, and Jacqueline Hyde's post @#7, 'sums-it-up' Beautifully!

Well-Done Jacqueline!, You took the words out of my mouth!
Soo NO_WAY! Are You, "On the shelf", Think more of yourself.




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Evia,

12/06/2009 02:23:40
#7 Jacqueline Hyde

Great post Jacqueline.

Shouldn't our MSPs be dealing with more impotant matters?
14

Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 02:37:19
#15 Evia
Sorry but Jacqueline hasn't got a scoobie. Shareholders haven't made any money out of football for donkeys years. The late Dundee Utd chairman Eddie Thomson spent millions for the love of the game and left a large legacy. Likewise the Rangers, Celtic, Hearts etc chairmen.
Football brings tons of fun into the community. Endless competitions and cheap or free tickets by football clubs for young folk. And endless leagues and tournaments.
The Scottish Government hasn't put a penny into the pocket of a foreign player.
And shinty isn't popular because it sucks.
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12/06/2009 03:35:59
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donald,

glasgow 12/06/2009 03:52:34
The Old Firm will miss Setanta and the Unionist Parties.

Would non Vichy Scotland miss Setanta and Tavish?
17

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 12/06/2009 05:55:25
#18 "donald" whatever your politics the Vichy reference is odious.
18

dunedin bully wee 1877,

12/06/2009 06:30:51
Maybe Man Utd will buy Setanta!
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dunedin bully wee 1877,

12/06/2009 07:28:42
Tavish Scott appears to be somewhat confused on GMS this morning.

He claims that “smaller” clubs derive up to 60% of their income from television rights.

The current difficulties being experienced by the likes of Clyde, Livingston and Stirling Albion are entirely unconnected with the fate of Setanta, as none of these clubs derive any income from that source.

It may be argued that there is a potential “trickle down” effect of SPL clubs spending TV derived monies on buying players from the SFL, however, such instances are nowadays few and far between, and in any case, no SFL club could possibly budget for any such income.

This is not to say that I would not welcome some sort of measures being implemented in order to address the huge financial inequalities which exist within Scottish football.

However, it will take a lot more thought and consideration than Tavish Scott has to offer.
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gus1940,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 07:29:23
Anything that reduces the anount of football on TV and in the printed media gets my vote.
21

TWC,

exLabour 12/06/2009 07:53:12
Will this be the first thing on the Libdem Manifesto?
22

paulr,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 08:06:57
WHO GIVES A F****
23

paulr,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 08:07:34
after all this is only a stupid game, not a national crisis
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Andrew Morton,

Berkshire 12/06/2009 08:21:47
paulr

Kinda agree, not a football fan myself (well not this kind of football anyway - the one where they employ actors instead of athletes).

However, without football, many people would not have anything to do and would be in a position where they might start thinking about things, such as politics and the way the country is run.

Now we can't have that or an increase in eligible voters voting, can we??
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Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 08:39:24
How does Tavish think that the Scottish Government can influence an Irish company ?
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Don Roberto,

12/06/2009 08:57:10
What's required here is for BBC Scotland and STV to bid for the rights to show football on council telly on a shared and highlights basis, albeit at a much reduced price that Sentantananana paid. Thus forcing the pampered EssPeeEll to reduce their wage bills to realistic levelsm allowing them to switch their focus and energies on bringing through youth players rather than importing overpaid useless fancy dans.

Whilst we're at it, can we have a pyramid system that allows the juniors into the so called grown up leagues?

Naturally, if Broadcasting were devolved from Westminster the Scottish government might have more of an impact on Scoddish fitba.

Imagine if for example Sky went into meltdown and the opium of the pay per view masses down south went belly up, would Westminster step in?

Oh by the way, Tavish attacks? PMSLVH. Michty P-M-S_L is potentially unsuitable!
27

Rosscobhoy,

12/06/2009 09:18:50
#28

Probably the most sensible post on the subject.
28

The Scotchman,

12/06/2009 09:40:52
#2. I've read many clubs being mentioned as the three. You've just listed another two. Only Falkirk is the name that consistently crops up. Kilmarnock is usually the other.

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Linda,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 09:46:54
Tavish knoiws less about football than me and I am still waiting to hear his suggestions.

Perhaps if BBC Scotland got its 9% share of tax payers money they could afford to bid for Scottish sporting events rather than licence fee payers funding £100 million into boring F1 motor racing.
30

Mikey,

12/06/2009 10:10:24
Maybe Tavish and the wannabe Londoners could explain to us all how the Scottish Government can save a football club?
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12/06/2009 10:39:06
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Teamdroid,

12/06/2009 11:36:56
Maybe there's a little local politicking going on here? One of the main clubs threatened by the Setanta difficulties is probably Aberdeen, where the competition between the SNP and LDs for votes is fierce.
33

BIG EYE,

Paisley 12/06/2009 12:12:36
2
As I understand it St Mirren are the only club in the SPL which is not in debt therefore I wonder where you get the information that St Mirren would be endangered by the fall of Setanta?

All clubs would lose revenue but I would have thought those worst affected would have been those in debt already.
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David55,

12/06/2009 12:16:05
#5 - I agree with you. What has happened to the Lib-dems?

I would have thought they would be the No.1 port of call for disillusioned Labour (anti-independence ones) voters.

The last time they had a decent leader in Westminster was Charlie glug glug and up here they've never had a decent leader.
35

David55,

12/06/2009 12:23:40
#17 - The government didn't pay anything like £790 million for Wembley. If I recall correctly the Sport England grant was around £100 million.

http://www.wembleystadium.com/ask_wembley.htm

How do these costs breakdown?
• The purchase of the land and early design fees cost £120 million.
• The basic cost of building the stadium is £352 million
• Demolishing the old stadium and fitting out the new will cost £99 million.
• The contribution to local infrastructure improvements is £21 million.
• Financing the project, management and other costs amount to £165 million.
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David55,

12/06/2009 12:25:22
Edward,12/06/2009 01:40:56
When Setanta advised the SPL that the contract as it was ,was untenable. The SPL should have cottoned on to the idea that the broadcaster, didnt have any room to manouver. It was a simple case of 'You want the money, we cant pay the money, what money can you pay?' If the SPL had any brains, they could have negotiated a new contract that initially wold mean less money, but they could have insisted in a shareholding as a sweetener. This would have given them a chunk of a broadcaster, that they had an interest in and may have paid dividends if and when the good times return
Missed opportunity!

----------------------------------------------------

Exactly!
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Davie08,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 14:09:18
This is important because...??
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12/06/2009 18:38:07
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

12/06/2009 19:32:35
#41 Alternative Journalism,

Numerous English clubs have benefited by having large debts to the Taxman written off, one law for the...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/3507836/Football-League-promises-to-act-after-clubs-have-28m-tax-debts-written-off-Football.html
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nostress,

grangemouth 12/06/2009 20:16:29
Tavish, you obviously feel that by talking about football, you'll somehow connect with the erhem "common" man. The fact that you know absolutely b'all about the subject and it's obvious to a blind man that you have no interest in the game makes you come across like one of those embarrassing parents who try to get "down" with their teenage offspring.

Tavish, please note, you don't have to try to twist everything that happens into an attack on the only legitimate government we have. Don't let your pathetic personal animosity towards Mr Salmond take over whatever brain cell you happen to be abusing at the time. Please Tavish, just pay back the money you stole from the taxpayer in building up your property empire, resign your waste-of-space position and gie us peace.

Thank you, you know it makes sense.
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morris,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 21:01:23
Tavish is using this to try and gain favour with football supporters. Whilst nobody wants to see any of Scotland's clubs go down a better idea would be demand that BBC Scotland gives Scotland her fair share of the licence fee income.That would allow a few clubs in Scotland payment of money for entertainment which currently was/ is paid by Setanta.
I agree however with much of Jaqueline Hyde's comments about the extravagances within the football game and if an example were needed the reported 80 million paid to Man Utd for one player shows the madness which exists. You could buy a team of quality players for that, which is exactly what Fergie will do with the money as and when they exist.
It is however up to each club to live within their means and I would tell every player to dump the agent or leave.You will negotiate your own contract with the manager and if you don't agree terms them OUT.
Working men are spending ridiculous amounts to watch average players and there has to be a return to sanity OR HALF OF THESE PLAYERS WILL FIND THEMSELVES PLAYING JUNIOR LEAGUE ! Setanta may yet be saved,but if the SFA and SPL don't get their act together now and the players screw the nut instead of the goose that lays the golden egg then its bye bye Scotland's clubs and bye bye full time players also!

A better idea would be bye bye Tavish and his totally irrelevant party to Scotland.
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12/06/2009 21:32:42
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13/06/2009 02:24:29
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Darien,

Panama 13/06/2009 12:18:41
#18 Donald: "Would non Vichy Scotland miss Setanta and Tavish?"

Tavish spent zillions of taxpayers cash on ferry services when Transport Minister. Tavish, who voted for Edinburgh trams costing the taxpayers a fortune. Tavish, who used taxpayer money to build up his little property empire. Tavish, who now wants to bail out football clubs. Like NewLab, FibDums are great at spending our cash - on things most of us don't want or need.

I don't think anyone would miss Tavish, not even in Shetland. In fact, very few would miss the FibDums either. Like NewLab and the other onionists they are a' full o' mince.

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morris,

edinburgh 13/06/2009 17:12:07
5 Tavish is a liability ? Why single Tavish out Gregor?

The whole Liberal Democrap party is a liability if you ask me,but I must say that Charles Kennedy (even when swimming in Campbeltown Loch) still made more sense than the rest of the Scottish branch of them put together.

Ross Finnan Haddie was an absolute joke!

 

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