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Published Date: 23 April 2008
THE supporters have their say
HIBS

THERE seems to be nothing surer on the fixed odds coupon than a draw when Hibs face Dundee United.

For the fourth time this season, and the fifth time in a row, the sides shared the spoils. It doesn't end our hopes of a pl
ace in the Uefa Cup, but makes a win up at Aberdeen pretty much a necessity this weekend.

Harry Potter wasn't exactly renowned for a wizard brand of football when he was in charge at the Pink Bus Shelter, but credit where it's due, United are a bit easier on the eye, and games against them are invariably entertaining. Sadly, a tidy finish from Deano wasn't quite enough, and a moment of madness from Thierry Gatthuessi in bringing down Mark de Vries cost us all three points.

And what about Noel Hunt? Talk about jumping on the bandwagon – the latest to join the "Mixu-bashing" craze. Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough! At least Harry Potter never accused Mixu of "a lorryload of sour grapes". He must be mellowing I suppose.

Michael Doylewww.hibs.net

ST MIRREN

SATURDAY at Tynecastle proved that meaningless games in the bottom six don't need to be boring. A thrilling game saw five goals in a match that almost turned into a goal-of-the-season competition.

We've now got five games left until the end of the season, with hopefully a few more matches like the one against Hearts. However, God knows when we're going to get our game against Rangers out of the way.

It's looking likely we'll be asked to help out and extend the season, but with our players set to go on holiday after the last game, it will be interesting to see what happens. Rangers have enough decent players to play two midweek games and still do well. They signed Alan Gow, so they might as well give him a game.

However, some people claim this shouldn't happen to help Rangers in Europe. I don't know about anyone else, but I want to see them have a hard time in the Uefa Cup. It might help St Mirren when we come to play them.

Stuart Gillespie www.stmirrenfc.net

KILMARNOCK

UP UNTIL this season, the order of the day when we played Inverness used to be high-scoring draws…but this term it seems to be either gub or get gubbed, and it was our turn to get gubbed.

It is a bit worrying that with the large squad we currently have – and accepting that four players have bowed out early for operations – there does not seem to be enough quality left to put on a decent display in the Highlands.

Some of these guys are playing for contracts and if they do not produce the goods in the last few games then I'd imagine Jim Jefferies will allow them to pursue their career away from the Theatre of Pies.

One big miss on Saturday was Moroccan midfielder Mehdi Taouil, who had a thigh strain. The wee man has provided some good old-fashioned entertainment this season with his overall skill on the ball. Players like him are the reason that fans can still enjoy watching games. Hopefully JJ will manage to persuade him to stay just a little bit longer.

Barry Richmond www.killiefc.com

FALKIRK

SATURDAY'S goalless draw with Gretna was our 15th shutout in 34 league games, second only to Celtic.

But at the other end, Bairns' fans have seen the net bulge a mere six times since the turn of the year. Our main strikers of late have been awful – the side has created chance after chance and dominated games with some lovely football, but no end result.

Pedro Moutinho last netted on 8 December, and Graham Barrett a week later. The remaining strikers, Finnigan and Clarke have found the net only three times this year, so, just back from long-term injury, Michael Higdon, after missing a third of the season, remains leading scorer with his eight goals to date.

Maybe now is the time to blood youngsters like Mark Stewart, who has proved at every level that he has played he has a keen eye for goal. John Hughes has served up some of the finest football Falkirk fans have seen in a generation, but the goalscoring problem must be resolved or much great work will be undone.

Brian Guthrie www.bairnstrust.com

DUNDEE UNITED

RECEIVED wisdom suggested Sunday's encounter with Hibs might produce yet another draw between our clubs this season, which is exactly what happened. There was some end-to-end stuff with a lot of good counter-attacking football. Shiels took his goal well but, thanks to some woeful/clumsy defending from Gathuessi, Noel Hunt fired home the resultant penalty to make it a short-lived lead.

United were the more disappointed come the final whistle as our remaining games, with the exception of the last one against Celtic, are away from home, so this weekend's showdown with Motherwell becomes even more of a 'must-win' than it was previously.

One disappointment was seeing Christian Kalvanes limp off after an unnecessary stamp from Gathuessi. If he leaves Tannadice, Kalvenes' tenacity, ability, work-rate and presence will be sorely missed. A defender with the emphasis on 'defend' rather than some of the 'ers' we have had in recent years.

Hamish Mackintoshwww.utdmad.co.uk

MOTHERWELL

FOR the umpteenth time this season, we had no game on Saturday but Motherwell fans were still able to focus their attention on an important match in Lanarkshire. Hamilton defeating Clyde at New Douglas Park ensured we will have league derbies to look forward to for the first time in several years next season and that can only be a good thing. While Airdrie United may be our main local rivals, there was also an edge to Hamilton games and they will be eager to prove what they can do.

Some fans might not be fussed about meeting the team from over the river, but it is surely more interesting than yet another trip to Dundee. Everyone should acknowledge Hamilton's achievement. They have fought their way back to the top flight from the Third Division having secured the future of the club on the way. Accies are a true footballing fairytale, unlike a certain side from southern Scotland who are 'enjoying' an ill-advised sojourn in the SPL this season.

Derek Wilson www.firparkcorner.com

HEARTS

WITH nothing to play for apart from seventh place, we appeared to be a more relaxed outfit on Saturday as we took some kind of revenge on Kilmarnock. This second win in row was quite emphatic as we put three in the back of the net without reply. Some nice free-flowing football was on display, which gave the impression that the players had no concerns for what is happening behind the scenes.

Romanian Marius Niculae, who could be away in the summer, put in a fine shift and scored a cracker towards the end, and did himself a big favour in his quest for a place in his country's squad for Euro 2008.

But there were others in the team that didn't do so well, suggesting that they could be away in the close season. Hopefully, the manager will have a short-list of players to bring in should he choose to offload some of our veterans.

Despite us not conceding on Saturday, most fans will agree that our defence must take priority in any dealings in the transfer market.

Dave 'Gringo' Wilson www.caleythistleonline.com

HEARTS

WE WERE treated to a reasonably entertaining game at Tynecastle on Saturday with some spectacular shooting for three of the five goals. Gary Glen looked very promising and his mobility caused problems for the St Mirren defence, while Jason Thomson had a very steady game at right-back.

On the non-playing side, the AGM on Friday got a fair bit of negative press, and communication from the directors is still very much a problem, although Sergejus Fedotovas did clear up a few points on the Hearts website after the meeting.

I believe plans are going very well for Robbie Neilson's testimonial match on 11 May with almost all of the 1998 Scottish Cup-winning side likely to attend. Hearts had a run of testimonials a few years back, but it has taken a while for another player to reach the ten-year mark. I think Robbie's testimonial could be the last at Tynecastle for a while and bringing the Cup winners back could prove popular.

Derek Watsonwww.homst.com

GRETNA

THE uncertainty off the field continues but on it, Gretna have put in some respectable performances recently and recorded their first (and probably last) consecutive clean sheets. St Mirren and Falkirk were the two teams who were frustrated by Mick Wadsworth's young yet hungry team.

The games weren't the greatest of spectacles. The St Mirren game was fairly dire whilst at Falkirk, Gretna were always solid and committed in their defending, yet offered little going forward. The fight to restore pride hasn't been helped by the loss of skipper Paul Murray to a broken rib. He is likely to be out for the remainder of the season, and as a result his last game for us may well have passed.

Gavin Skelton is also rumoured to be a target of Kilmarnock and St Mirren. Skelton has seen it all at Raydale Park; from broke Unibond League strugglers to First Division champions, Uefa cup entrants and Scottish Cup finalists.

As for the next chapter in our history, who knows?

Scott Leslie www.gretna-mad.co.uk

CELTIC
TWO games, three goals, six points and moans all round. Sure, Saturday was flat, but compared to the high on Wednesday it's not surprising there was a reaction against Aberdeen. Despite carping from Zander Diamond, for once we got a lucky break from a referee, even if Iain Brines appears arrogant when dealing with players.

Paul Caddis was a pleasure to behold with unbounded energy and enthusiasm and has a big career ahead of him at Celtic Park.

Shunsuke Nakamura's goal against Rangers was superb and he would have had another but for the handball by Carlos Cuellar. Maybe we should follow rugby and award the goal in those situations rather than reward cheating with a second chance?

The actions of one coin-throwing moron on Wednesday allowed the focus to be diverted from a great performance.

Let's hope the headlines on Monday are about another superb performance from Celtic and keeping the league alive.

Tommy Dornan www.celticsupporterassoc.co.uk

RANGERS

A LOT to get through this week. Firstly, well done to Celtic last week. Let's hope they show as much determination to find the missile throwers as they did to win the game. I won't hold my breath though.

Secondly, the performance against St Johnstone was abject, but at least we have another Hampden trip to look forward to next month.

Thirdly, roll on tomorrow. European semi-finals do not come often, and this will be a night to treasure – hopefully.

Fourthly, can we have a strong referee on Sunday? After Hartley and Robson stayed on the pitch last week and referee Iain Brines invented a reason to disallow Aberdeen's goal on Saturday, it's clear our referees have responded to intimidation.

And lastly – the PFA Player of the Year Awards. What a joke that a team going for four trophies wasn't recognised.

I think I speak for all Rangers fans when I say how proud we are of how we have done this season, no matter what happens this week.

David Edgar www.rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk

ABERDEEN

THERE is still a chance we could get back into Europe, but it appears even the club have written off our season. Last week, half the squad were released, Nicholson is going, with Miller expected to join him, and McNamara announced his departure. He won't be missed, but his version of events leading up to his exit confirms our worst fears and concerns regarding Calderwood's tactical and man-management skills.

But the most baffling departures are the release of youngsters like Ryan Strachan and Neil McVitie.

Alas we're lumbered with Calderwood and co for the foreseeable and have no option but to trust his judgment in rebuilding the side. But would it be too much to ask that our manager looks further afield than his usual sources of Dunfermline and the Dutch Amateur Leagues?

The way things have started, many Reds believe the 'summer clearout' should begin in the manager's office, taking in our director of football, which doesn't bode well for season-ticket renewals.

Mark Alexander www.aberdeen-mad.co.uk























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  • Last Updated: 22 April 2008 10:10 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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Wee Pal Joe,

23/04/2008 00:15:15
"For once we got a lucky break from a referee" says the Celtic fan. I'd be interested to hear the views of Falkirk and St Mirren fans on that, just to take a couple of recent examples.

"The actions of one coin-throwing moron"? Busy guy. Did he throw the mobile phone too?
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Indie Rep Kid,

23/04/2008 08:44:23
Derek Watson: "nothing to see here...move along....."

Good to see such an esteemed man as Derek Watson is fooled by Fedatovas' damage limitation after the AGM.

The rest of us are too intelligent to be fooled.
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Indie Rep Kid,

23/04/2008 08:45:54
As for the Hibs column: "Harry Potter"? "Pink Bus Shelter"?

embarrassing
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We love fitba,

23/04/2008 09:25:50
#2 IRK, couldn't agree more.

"Great News! Preparations for Robbie Neilson's testimonial going well!"

It's almost beyond parody. Like you say, most Hearts fans are rather more focused on the real issues at the club.
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 23/04/2008 09:56:01
Mr Edgar?

What about the things thrown at Robson by Rangers fans?

You Celtic fans despite my retort the club once and for all has to take action to stop these morons giving us a bad name, what sort of mentality throws a coin at a doctor helping an opposition player. Absolute disgrace Celtic sort it out.

What about the Samaras goal that was chalked off? What about the bad ref decisions the Gers have benefited from this season such as the hand of god goal against Hearts in the League Cup semi? You just hate it that the Celts are pushing you all the way.

McGeady deserved the award this season because he's been the best positive player in terms of skill and excitement no matter how much that sticks in your throat. Just because Rangers play negative football does not mean you should be rewarded for it.


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Tarquin,

Hove 23/04/2008 10:32:54
Mr DGSuvull? Now there's a real Celtic fan's reply for you. "Never mind what our fans did, what about yous? Yous are pyoor worse than us, so yous are, byraway." Celtic fans do "Whataboutism" better than anyone in the world.

It's no coincidence that Celtic's on-field antics have degenerated since the arrival of that, err, remarkable human being (!) in the Sellik dugout, Neil Lennon.

Surely it won't be long before Gordon "not a Sellik man" Strachan steps aside to let a man with 100% Celtic DNA into the manager's chair? :-)
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 23/04/2008 10:44:55
Tarquin

I condemned the Celtic fans behavior can't you read?

All I'm looking for is objectivity, opposition fans at the same game through things, Celtic have a legitimate goal chalked off, McGeady is the most talented player in the Premier at the moment, would you disagree with any of these facts?

But does Mr Edgar mention these facts? No he only motions the morons who through things at the Rangers Doc, he only mentions the Dons goal chalked off, he only mentions Rangers players not being recognized, forgetting what WS will still probably deservedly get the Manager of the Year, because he is the person who has grafted Rangers results this season by playing defensive football, it's not down to your flair players it’s squad effort and tactics, and well done to WS for achieving this. Apart from Hutton, who do you think could have got the award?
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finbar offended,

at my desk dummy 23/04/2008 11:07:26
DGSEVILLE2,Northants 23/04/2008 09:56:01
Mr Edgar?

What about the things thrown at Robson by Rangers fans?


I'm sure that TIFO paper could ve taken out one of Robsons 3 eyes. Honestly I wonder about the sellick fans. How quick they are to forget about the free kick that never was against St Midden, or the offside goal against Falkirk, the numerous dives of the plastic paddy and his Japanese friend to win free kicks. Or lets not forget the assault by Hartley or Robson on Rangers players last week or the fact that Zorba Samaras entered the field of play while warming up to help the ref decide what card he should use. Oh and as for Trinity high school graduate, Ian Brines, next time tuck those hoops into shorts mate and don't make it so fecking obvious
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 23/04/2008 11:26:49
Finbar

OK Celtic always get the decisions and have the worst supporters, Rangers never get decisions and you and your fellow supporters are "Simply The Best" and "The People". Are you satisfied now?

The way I look at it these things even themselves out, you have had decisions, we have had decisions for and against us. Go take a cold shower and try for once to look at it objectively.

For instance the OF game, I could have brought up the fact that Daily clearly flattened McDonald on the half way line leading to Nachos goal but why bother you just can't see anything else through those blue tinted specs! Bellamy and Petrov had things thrown at them at Ibrox over the last few years but why bother brining it up according to you your fans only throw harmless pieces of paper at folk!
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Jimmy Pop,

Button Moon 23/04/2008 11:34:20
DGSeville - Walter can't 'deservedly' win Manager of the Year because the PFA gave it to Billy Reid of Hamilton.

And do you think that anyone from any other country in Europe wouldn't be a touch surprised that no-one from a team going for FOUR trophies was recognised?

As for who would deserve it - Cuellar, Weir, McGregor.
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 23/04/2008 11:46:46
Jimmy,

Personally I think WS deserved it, still think McGeady is a great talent and has shown it this season, if Hutton was still around he may have got it. McGregor has been great no doubt about it, but come on, I don't think there should be resentment against McGeady because he got it.

Rangers have had a fantastic season no doubt about it and Walter and his team deserve great credit for this, however, like the 3V0 beating you gave the Celts earlier in the season, I think Gers fans should accept that Celtic were deserved winners last week, and whatever morons did in the crowd, this was nothing to do with a fair result. Also Rangers have also benefited from decisions this season. Really shows you who are clutching at straws when you Gers fans start saying Celtic players were two rough. So happens for the first time this season our midfield stood up, out muscled, and out played yours. Simple as that.

Anyway the next few days will be very interesting and I hope the supporters behave on Sunday as well as the players and we have another good game on the field.
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Jimmy Pop,

Button Moon 23/04/2008 11:57:45
DGSeville - you are far too sensible for these boards!

I do think Celtic deserve credit for last week, what I think DE is on about is that celtic don't seem to go out of their way to discourage this beahviour.

That said, may the best team win on Sunday!

As for the Hearts column, it's just plain embarrassing each week. Robbie Neilson's testimonial? FFS!
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23/04/2008 15:04:36
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Jimmy Pop,

Button Moon 23/04/2008 16:18:40
Chucky, you are a liar.
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finbar offended,

at my desk, Dummy 23/04/2008 16:32:35
Jimmy,

Did you expect anything else. It's bred into them, they can't even face facts that Baw Face did indeed have knowledge and that Billy McBungle even admitted it to the press and under oath (that means telling the truth in court while placing your hand on the Holy Bible, Declan)

But hey deny and deflect a way of life for the fans of Steak Pie FC
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andrewx,

23/04/2008 16:36:51
it really worries me that rangers will go back to parkhead this sunday and it looks like we will have to be wary of the coin thrower and the mobile phone thrower who will still be free to assault rangers players and staff.

perhaps one is the same guy who assaulted ricksen and was never caught or spat on paul le guen. if these two incidents are the state of play in a celtic win perhaps rangers should ask to play behind closed doors in case we win.

seriously though if i handed you a mobile phone and said find out who that belongs to how long do you think it would take you 5 minutes, less i hear you say sure would. makes you wonder if they are even trying.
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23/04/2008 16:39:18
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Mr Jackson,

Parkhead - Hard Hat Central 23/04/2008 17:02:04

#13

You son are a liar. The Rangers fans are so heavily policed at Celtc park they're scared to sneeze never mind throw coins.

What sectarian bigoted songs is this you speak of? The only songs I remember hearing of a sectarian nature were coming from the lowlifes (Ireland's shame) singing about current buns etc.

But as Finbar has pointed out already we can't blame you, personally I blame your parents.

Lie deny deflect - The Celtc way
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Oor_Wullie,

ma_MOPE_bucket 23/04/2008 17:39:56
ah, the offended bus arrives - wossup MrEd, no managed to get any stadiums shut doon yet this week either? If you are *really* so concerned over coin-throwing at Celtic Park (and you do seem to have a slightly unhealthy wee obsession with the matter), heres a suggestion: Instead of making an ***** of yirsel blabbing to every media whos daft enough to listen tae yi that Celtic Park should be shut doon, and the fans banned, hoos about yi organise a wee boycott o yir RST members insteed?

I am right sure aw those Rangers fans lucky enough to have a ticket for Sunday would only be too pleased not to bother going, cos you (The Voice of The Fans) say so - I mean, if yi wir successfull in getting everyone banned, couldnae go anyway, could they now? Aye a definite 100% positive response that RST boycott would get, I am certain each and every Rangers Fan would stand united behind you, outside the gates of CP, unused ticket in hand, as you bestow upon them yet another of yir wee speeches. Whilst inside, yir teams gettin humped (again :)

I also considered it difficult for an organisation whose sole aim appears to be to land (yet annur) poodle under Daves feet (that really wid be a bored member, but nermind) to lose any more credibility, but, fairdos, yi managed that during the week wae yir wee rants, and that in spades. "I think I speak for all Rangers fans.." - I dont think you do, actually, which may be worth bearing in mind. I think you will also find most fans (of whatever persuasion) actually want to watch the football, as opposed to being used as pawns in hypocritical and offensive political MOPE games by individuals & organisations pursuing their own agenda whilst claiming to represent their interests.
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Rosscobhoy,

Glasgow 23/04/2008 17:55:31
The big problem i can see with supporters of Celtic and the current buns is that the vast majority can't accept their own faults without pointing whats wrong with the other. If we could all just accept that both sides have a lot of arsehole followers, without having to mount a defence by saying "but yous have more" then we might go some way towards sorting the problem out. But for the record, i will always maintain that Hearts have the worst offending fans of the lot........
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