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Published Date: 11 September 2008
GEORGE Burley's summation of the significance of Scotland's 2-1 victory over Iceland in Reykjavik last night put into one sentence all the relief and exhilaration of an 18-year managerial career.
"It is the best result of my time as a manager," said Burley, just minutes after goals from the debutant, Kirk Broadfoot, and striker James McFadden, had given the Scots the victory that atoned for the failure in Macedonia four days earlier and restored the hope that they can qualify for the World Cup in South Africa in two years' time.

"To get points for your country, to have the opportunity to take them to a major championship, nothing can top that," he added. "We came here tonight knowing we needed to pick up points after the defeat in Skopje and we've done that. That's two away matches past and three points taken. We have Norway at Hampden Park next (in October] and, if we could take three points from that game, we would be right in contention.

"Yes, you could say this match in Iceland was a test of character for our players after what happened in the opening game, but football's always a test of character. And it's especially tough at international level. This World Cup group we are in was always going to be competitive, we knew that the minute the draw was made and it is already being proved, with teams taking points off each other.

"Iceland drew in Norway last Saturday, we lost to Macedonia and Holland beat Macedonia tonight. So we are left with three teams on three points each and two teams on one point each. It will be like that all the way, so anything we get is not going to come easily."

Burley shared the anxieties of every one of the 1,000 or so Scottish supporters at the Laugardalsvollur Stadium as well as those watching on television at home when the 2-0 lead his team had established was suddenly cut in half, as Stephen McManus conceded a penalty kick with a deliberate hand ball and was sent of as Eidur Gudjohnsen, the Barcelona striker, converted the kick.

It meant a testing final 12 minutes for the Scots, as Broadfoot moved from right-back to join the heroic Gary Caldwell in central defence, Graham Alexander left the bench to fill in at full-back and Paul Hartley came on to play a defensive midfield role.

The anxiety had begun a little earlier, however, when McFadden missed the penalty kick he was awarded when he was tripped by Kristjan Sigurdsson, but followed up to net the rebound.

"Actually, there wasn't really time to get too emotional at that moment," said Burley. "I thought, 'oh, he's missed', but then he followed up so quickly along with Barry Robson that the ball was in the net anyway. That gave us the two-goal cushion and I did believe then that we would win all right.

"But, of course, we weren't to know what was to come with the incident with Stephen. He felt he was pushed in the back by his opponent (Heidar Helguson] and that was why he was so unhappy about the award of the penalty kick and the ordering-off."

McManus will now miss the match against Norway, but Burley's re-arranged team last night – often playing a bold 4-3-3 formation – revealed players that give him more options, with Shaun Maloney wide on the left and Scott Brown in a central midfield role especially noticeable.

As for the severe criticism Burley had had to face in the wake of the Macedonia debacle, he remained typically stoical about the possibility that he had made some of the more savage of the denigrator eat their words. "In football, criticism at times has to make you stronger," he said. "It may be unjust, but I can't change that. All I can do is focus on preparing my team, making them better and doing the best we can to get points. That's what we've got on with."


Team ratings

Craig Gordon 6/10

Untroubled in the first half beyond a fine punch clear from a dangerous cross and probably would have saved Hermann Hreidarsson's shot on 41 minutes even if Stephen McManus had not punted the ball clear. No chance with Eidur Gudjohnsen's penalty, and was then booked for time-wasting in the closing stages.

Kirk Broadfoot 6

Used his head to great effect after a perfectly timed run at a corner to give Scotland the lead. However, a mindless challenge on the touchline brought an early booking and unnecessary pressure on his international debut. Adapted well enough but did not use his size and strength to the full in defence, often looking better when pushing forward, particularly in the first half.

Gary Caldwell 6

Excellent clearance when facing his own goal and dealing with a wicked cross on 47 minutes. Still prone to lapses, as is his partner Stephen McManus, but the Celtic pair are at least used to covering for each other. Fortunate but crucial deflection on Heidar Helguson's goal-bound shot in injury time and can be reasonably satisfied with his evening's work.

Stephen McManus 3

Not the steadying influence in defence that Scotland need, and has probably been promoted beyond his true capabilities and experience at this level. In the right place at the right time to boot clear a goal-bound effort shortly before half-time, then got it all hopelessly wrong with a blatant handball that led to an inevitable sending off. Hardly a captain's contribution.

Gary Naysmith 5

The most senior member of last night's starting XI, at least in terms of caps, and with no true contenders for the left-back berth he could be adding to his 42-cap tally for some time to come. Far from flawless display, however, and was fortunate to be allowed to make up for a slack pass across his own defensive line with time ticking down.

Darren Fletcher 5

One pass that set Kris Commons away down the right flank in the first half highlighted the talent that gets him a game for Manchester United. A composed contributor but needs to impress himself more on games for 90 minutes and play to the level Scotland require of him. Nobody else in the squad mixes it with the calibre of opposition Fletcher does at club level, but it is not often he stands head and shoulders above his Scotland team-mates. Last night was a case in point.

Scott Brown 5

Not at his best when having to track runners, which, with Paul Hartley left out of the starting line-up, was more in his remit than in Macedonia. Rarely got forward to aid Scotland's attacks but was willing to do more than his fair share when the 'all hands on deck' cry went out in the closing stages. This included one lung-bursting run down the right wing but, as is often the case with Brown, it failed to live up to its initial promise. Not an automatic selection when everyone returns to fitness.

Barry Robson 7

Tremendous whipped delivery from a corner on the right set up Kirk Broadfoot's opening goal. Lucky to not get booked for a rough challenge on 28 minutes before receiving a yellow card for kicking the ball away soon after. An alert follow-up of McFadden's penalty but remains a conundrum; too good to leave out, too headstrong to trust.

Kris Commons 5

Too cute on the ball at times, too lightweight at others and one slip set in motion the Iceland attack that brought a wild volley attempt from Eidur Gudjohnsen in the first half. Made way for Kenny Miller on 63 minutes.

James McFadden 6

Did well to win penalty on 56 minutes but his conversion attempt was lamentable and he was lucky to get a second bite on the rebound. Not ideally suited to leading the line and did not make himself available for crosses often enough. Substituted for Paul Hartley on 81 minutes.

Shaun Maloney 6

Scotland's most dangerous player in the first period, firing over some excellent crosses including an insightful delivery towards McFadden on 35 minutes that almost produced an own goal. Much quieter in the second period before being replaced by Graham Alexander on 79 minutes as part of a defensive reshuffle.

SUBSTITUTES

Kenny Miller 3

(For Commons 63). Woeful cross from the left flank was his only notable contribution.

Graham Alexander 3

(For Maloney 79). Fulfilled his clean-up role after McManus's dismissal.

Paul Hartley 2

(For McFadden 81) Little time to make an impression.



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  • Last Updated: 11 September 2008 1:26 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scotland's football team
 
1

Fayneant,

NZ 11/09/2008 01:47:19
Three points that keep us in the hunt, but hardly the kind of performance that will have Holland quaking in their boots.
Hopefully this is the turning point for Burley. Norway look emminently beatable, and 3 points at home and a better performance we might actually start to build some momentum.
And as for Big Broadfoot - what can you say? Well done big man!
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 11/09/2008 02:43:09
GOD BLESS BIG FOOT!!
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Boston John,

11/09/2008 03:00:48
Good victory for us. Pity the team ratings seem to have been written as character assasinations rather than football assessments... :-)
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freewheelin franklin,

london 11/09/2008 03:08:04
well done scotland, this game was a pressure situation. hopefully burley can gain some momentum with his team over the next few games.we need to thrash norway.it is going to be very close though if we make the play off spot or not. macedonia are not a bad side. well done all the players but in particular broadfoot who has taken some pelters on these posts over the last cupla days.onwards and upwards
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Dundee Pie,

11/09/2008 05:08:17
Congrats Burley and the rest of the team.

The ratings in this article are way off the mark and generally too harsh.

This performance was not at the calibre of the last game against Italy, but there has been continuous improvement for 186min of play since this campaign has begun.

Critical analysis and constant revaluation will be necessary for the continuous improvement required to qualify; however, this author must have been drinking when writing the numerical scores assigned to the players above.

Gordon is clearly way better than a 6. More like a 9. The time wasting yellow came while waiting for a substitution and was dubious. He continued to compensate for giant holes in defense.

Stephen McManus deserves a passing grade, not a 3. Yes we'd like a steadier hand at the back but he's the best defender on that field. If you look at the footage, both his hands were up and his arm got wedged between an oposing forward and it normal articulated motion.

Robson. What does, "too headstrong to trust" mean? He's not au untrained private, sent on an important mission. Did very well. He has been the big surprise in all of this new team.

Commons clearly was worth more than 5. "Too cute on the ball sometimes"? He was playing as a winger. And his ball skill or as you write, "cute play" kept their defense running back on multiple occasions.

Maloney. we are fortunate to finally have someone run up the left wing, being able to carry the ball and send in dangerous crosses. He's been an 8.

3 and 2 for Alexander and Hartley? That's rediculous. They wewre thrown into a ten man situation against a team desperate for a goal that has a few players any team would want. The ball stayed out of the net for the last 10 minutes. They pass.

Well done boys. A long road ahead.

And for Burley. I like the guy. He does his job with passion but without the usual vitriol that gets shouted from a few Scotland supporters, that cause every other Scot embarrasment.

Why
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Jacobite in exile,

San Diego, California 11/09/2008 05:15:56
Any result away in international competition these days is to be lauded.

Mr. Wright, the illustrious scribe of this article, would clearly be suited to covering the usual afternoon game of bowls down the social club.

His assessment of the players are both uneducated and ridiculous.
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 11/09/2008 06:17:55
broadfoot certainly has taken some stick and answered those persons in the best possible manner.
boyd must feel like reitring from international football as his goal per game rate is higher than the other strikers but he cant get a game, even though scotland dont appear able to get very many gaols
at least a win is a win
and congratulations to england too 4-1 great result for a team that get lambasted daily
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huggs,

11/09/2008 06:26:40
BTO Gary Mackay
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Rufus T. Firefly,

11/09/2008 07:03:46
What about the 2 Tartan Army Birds?

I am booking up for the next trip.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

11/09/2008 07:05:55
Scotland did well. Especially when you consider that McManus tried to hand it to Iceland.
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Addie,

11/09/2008 07:23:59
Good result but the ratings are far too harsh. Heart nearly sank when Iceland missed that sitter to equalise at the end. Have to admit, I slated Caldwell yesterday and he played very well. Dont know what McManus was playing at though. Good debut by Broadfoot at the back but cant see him edge out Hutton for right back when hes fit though.

Hopefully the media can get off George Burley's back now and get behind the team. 3 points against Norway awaits..
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11/09/2008 07:25:25
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Addie,

11/09/2008 07:33:13
#FFS it doesnt matter what club they play for when they put on a Scotland shirt - can you not support them? You dont see Arsenal fans boo Beckham when England play. Why must we take our club squables out on the International team?
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Phil MaGlass,

Holland 11/09/2008 07:47:51
Caldwell is not consistant,frequently gets caught flat footed, like he did against Macedonia(although he did get back in time to intercept)as soon as anyone mentions Caldwell to me I picture a flat footed guy trying to hail a taxi,over rated,get rid of Hartley as well,Scotland days should be numbered
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

GB/UK 11/09/2008 07:56:22
I hope B'wbag Burley is kissing big Kirkies ass for saving his.
Decided to lump on after I seen the team.
Well done Scotland. The Dutch just sneaked a win as well so all is not yet lost.
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Addie,

11/09/2008 07:57:22
#20 and the 'Celtic Trio' as you put it are also Scotland players.
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the west end general,

11/09/2008 08:16:52
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still slavering rubbish I see .. anyway you and your bluenose mates will be chuffed that England won,no?
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P Rayner.,

Essex 11/09/2008 08:18:52
Sincere gratulations to Scotland for its thrilling victory over Iceland. If Scotland can avoid humiliation against Holland the Norway, Macedonia games should be crackers.
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John H,

edinburgh 11/09/2008 08:32:09
26 If it's a man's game. What are you and your child like friends posting for? Just like ill mannered kids an irritant. Thrush comes to mind.
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Mikey,

11/09/2008 08:33:13
The old firm scum just can't leave it alone, eh? This was SCOTLAND last night, not some sectarian old firm derby!

If you can't support ALL the players, don't bother even commenting as you're a waste of space!
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11/09/2008 08:36:02
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wayne bijlyeerheid,

11/09/2008 08:38:56
Good to see the points in the bag, but I can't say I'm over impressed by a 2-1 victory against Iceland.
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Down with everything,

11/09/2008 08:43:24

I know that i will cheer on any player in the dark blue of my country, as i did on saturday and last night, and will continue to do in every game that they play.

That means through thick and thin, and boy is it a long thin spell.

Now i know that being a rangers fan the term thick and thin means nothing to you (maybe describes you) but it basically means that you get behind the team win lose or draw.

If i could be bothered i would go back to the Scotland on Sunday and copy some of your hate filled comments towards our national team.

Shows you up for what you really are.

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Boaby81,

11/09/2008 08:51:39
no challenger for Naysmith?

Charlie Mulgrew. Better crosser, better passer, better defender. Just better. He has provided most of the goals for Aberdeen this season and a couple for the U-21s.

He does play in North East though. A handicap when it comes to getting capped. Just ask Anderson, Nicholson, Severin and, given the recent cappings of Broadfoot and Barr, Diamond could feel a touch agrieved too. Of course Robson had to warm the bench at Parkhead to get on the pitch for Scotland.
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Zulu George,

Durban 11/09/2008 08:59:13
Well done Scotland and a special mention to big Kirk.
It will be Brilliant to have Scotland come to SA in 2010. All decent suppoters are welcome but the Bigots can stay at home, we have enough to deal with here.
Mon Scotland
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LiviGuy,

11/09/2008 09:10:02
#35 You say you will cheer on every player in the dark blue of your country, so that's why you refer to Kirk Broadfoot as 'clubfoot' in your previous post is it ?
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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 11/09/2008 09:10:13
Well done Scotland and maybe Broadfoot is going to develop into another Hutton? Remember how Hutton improved so much over one season. Although I'm a Celtic fan I hope Broadfoot does do the business for Scotland after all we are all Scots are we not and we want all our players to do well??

There are some exceptions, and I resent OF fans getting the blame for the jibing because it has come from one source in particular Bring them on!

The Scotland manager defended McManus, Robson had a good game, Caldwell had a good game, Hartley did not have time to do anything. A great contribution from the Celtic men and for equally every other player because this was an excellent result.

Well done George Burley, and shame on you Bring them on.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 09:21:05
Morning All
Firstly well done Scotland!The fates,as ever,conspired against me and I never saw the game but was forced to watch the Theo Walcott show (or thats what the patriotic English commentators would have me believe)instead.
Club rivalries aside..nice to see Broadfoot get a debut goal and help secure three valuable points for the team.
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Who?,

11/09/2008 09:22:24
A very good result last night and i am very pleased for the players and management. The sheer magnitude of flack directed in their direction has been appauling and there are several people (mainly in the press) who need to sit down and have a hard look at themselves. However i get the feeling that scotland winning will only infuriate these people and make them even more vicious should scotland suffer another defeat.

I think that McManus is getting a bit of unfair flack. His sending off was very poor there is no doubt about that but what you have to remember is that had he done it in an spl game he would have probably won a free kick.

Broadfoot who played very well and was probably unfortunate not to win MOTM got booked for an awful challenge- again in the spl he wouldn't even get talked to. Robson who ran the midfield for soctland in the last two games got booked for kicking the ball away- in the spl he would have walked away without a card.

The problem is that OF players find it difficult to adapt to european/ international football because in the spl they get protected by gfa referees. Until the gfa referees can officiate evenly and properly over a season will the stupid bookings by OF players be reduced or eliminated.
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Montgomery Flange,

London 11/09/2008 09:23:49
Big laughs, apparently Charlie Mulgrew doesnt get a game for Scotland because he doesn't play in Glasgow.

Charlie Mulgrew - great left-foot - doesnt get a game for Scotland because until recently he couldn't get a game for anybody else. Heres a wee tip: wait and see if Charlie can manage to play well consistently for say...half a season and then you can cry about him not getting a game for Scotland.

Russel Anderson, Scott Severin and Barry Nicholson dont play for Scotland all for the same reason, and its not because they dont play in Glasgow. Yes, even you can guess what that is. Politely put, they arent any better than the players picked before them, in fact they are not even as good as the players picked before them.

In recent years, Pressley, Hartley, Craig Gordon, James McFadden, Andy Webster, Davie Weir, Scott Brown, Steven Fletcher, Steven Naismith and others have all got their chance to play for the Scotland national team while playing for teams other than the Glasgow two. Some have done beter than others....your arguement, like your women, simply doesn't wash!
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Bob M,

Paisley 11/09/2008 09:29:07
#9 - "Broadfoot scoring on his debut is great for the team and the player.

I wonder how many other Scotland players have managed to do that?"

183 apparently.

Excellent result, we are back on track for our expected (by seeding) runner up spot in the group.
3 points in the bag and 66% of our remaining matches at Hampden. Added to the fact our main rivals Norway & Macedonia have dropped home points, we are in a much stronger position than on Saturday afternoon.

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Alan B,

11/09/2008 09:30:14
#Boaby81

Liked Mulgrew when he played for Dundee Utd afew yrs ago. Did not really do it down south. He will have to prove himself at Aberdeen before he can really be considered.

Nicholson and Severin were not really good enough for scotland.

Diamond does not deserve to be in the scottish squad. Did you see how poor he was in the semi against QOS. Cann't think of any Aberdeen fan i know that wants him in the squad. To say it an advantage to play for Falkirk (Barr) over Abderdeen is rubbish.

Broadfoot is better than Alexander and deserves a call. Who would you have put in in place of Hutton. (Wilson and Wittaker the 2 on paper that should have been challenging are not doing it at club level).

Robson i would agree with you but for some strange reason both Smith and McLeish prefered McCulloch and Teale.



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wayne bijlyeerheid,

11/09/2008 09:30:49
#35
Why don't you put your hate to bed and give us a bit of a rest.
You hate Rangers, ok its a free country, but can't you and your like, for once make a comment on something entirely unrelated, eg, like an Iceland-Scotland match, without displaying your knuckledragging bigotry.
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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 09:32:14
#37

absolute nonsense. Mulgrew has had what, 3 decent games for Aberdeen? He was shipped out of Celtic Park and Molineaux for not being good enough. Naysmith is a better option. Mulgrew isn't even the 1st choice left back for the under 21s.

Severin - good committed pro. Isn't now, never has been and never will be an International player.
Anderson - solid enough SPL player. found out in the Premiership and has looked poor on the few occassions he's been picked for Scotland.
Nicholson - Worst player on the park in every one of his caps. not even decent.
Diamond - Would be lucky to get a game for any other team in the SPL. Absolutely hopeless

Burley will pick anyone who he thinks is good enough. None of the boys you mentioned re though.


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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 09:34:57
McManus is a liability when not playing beside Davie Weir. Weir is the organiser and lets McManus conentrate on penalty box defending. his positional play is horrific and Weir saved him many times in the last campaign. Good partnership, but McManus's limitations are very apparent when he plays beside Caldwell (who is a much better player)
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Alan B,

11/09/2008 09:38:09
did not think Scotland played well. But atleast we got the result.

Neither Brown and Fletcher are playing well and Burely needs to consider there form at club level rather than making them an automatic pick. Pity as midfield should really be the strongest area of the team.

McFadden as a lone striker does not work. He does not have the height to fight for high balls nor the pace to get behind the defence. Really needs to be played in a free role behind the main striker. The ball just would not stick up front.

Defensively we seemed unwill to cover the full backs and continually left them exposed to one on one situations. We look particularly exposed down the left.

Thought Maloney had a good game.
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Thomo,

Italy 11/09/2008 09:42:14
The biggest dissapointment for me last night was the fact that Steven Fletcher was left sitting on the bench. I know this seems strange since we won the match but would it not have been more productive to have had him stay with the Under 21's and increase their chance in the game against Denmark (which they lost 1-0 to end hope of qualifying). Maybe he'd gain experience being with the Big Team but I'm sure he'd have rather played than sit on the bench "scratching his A#*e". Surely he could have came on rather than Kenny (Headless Chicken) Miller? As a Hibee though I'm quite glad as it reduced his chances of getting injured. <-- Selfish opinion!
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Montgomery Flange,

London 11/09/2008 09:42:18
No Celtic fan would ever claim that McManus is a great player. After breaking into the first team aged 23, he is still an inexperienced player (thought gaining that at a rapid rate) who shows how good he can be when playing alongside someone more experienced - weir, balde,- but, the sad fact remains for all Scotland fans to deal with. He's about the best we have to choose from. Berra, Diamond, Considine.....are they any better?
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P Rayner.,

Essex. 11/09/2008 09:44:56
Sorry to butt in again boys, England and Wolves being my teams. Though Mulgrew didn't make it at Molineux I thought he had potential and was very sorry to see him go. I hope he does well for Aberdeen and for you jocks. As for Burley; he needs time but his teams play football, good football. I don't think Scotland will qualify for this world cup but it should help George to produce a serious team for the 2012 Euro's.
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Alan B,

11/09/2008 09:46:58
#Thomo

You may have found the Fletcher or/and Boyd would have come on if we were chasing a goal. Being 2 up meant there was less reason to bring either on, particularly after McMannus got sent off.
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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 09:47:22
#57

I think Fletcher would have got a look in if we'd been looking for goals in the second half. When protecting a 2-0 lead you know you'll get a hard working shift from Miller so not the right time to bring him on.

If we'd played the same formation with Fletcher or Boyd up front and McFadden where Commons was I think we'd maybe have scored more goals.

Win's all that matters though.
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Pattie O'Dores,

In The Conservatory 11/09/2008 09:59:00
McManus's decision regarding the penalty was not the cleverest especially from the captain. However, he did make himself available for selection for his country despite carrying an injury unlike Weir, Thomson, Ferguson and...er...McCulloch whose priorities seem to lie elsewhere. The same goes for Davis and Lafferty who dropped out of the N. Ireland squad last night through 'injury'. 6 players unavailable for international duty from a single club on a single evening - is this a record? The common denominator is former Scotland International manager, Walter Smith whose principles seem to have changed since he accepted the 30 pieces of silver from Sir Minty. Maybe he's just resting his players to avoid over-tiredness as they experienced when chasing the 'quadruple' last season!
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huggs,

11/09/2008 10:01:48
#66 Davis dropped out for personall reasons
So think you should hang fire before judging him
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Alan B,

11/09/2008 10:07:58
#Pattie

You can hardly blame Ferguson for not being their last night. He is out for months.

Thought Weir was getting an operation. Burley has also made it clear that Caldwell and McManus were his first choice pairing when the dropped Weir initially for the NI before recalling him to cover for injury.

McCulloch's a disgrace.
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Philip The Good,

Higher up the food chain 11/09/2008 10:08:54
Good morning ladies and gentlemen,

I am Philip the Good. Upon reading your posts, I've decided that there is simply no hope for the civilised world as we know it. I am in a state of flux at the mentality of you simians. There is a distinct possibility that some of you may go on to commit heinous crimes, but most likely you shall end up destitute, feeding from dregs of your superiors. However, for the other's, the one's that slip through the net and continue to offend public decency. My quest is to take you, my peons, under my tutelage and create a little peace and harmony against this backdrop of "Odio eterno". I shall pick one of you for my special attention. This person shall be face to my infinitely stomping Jackboot. This bewildered fool (I may add this could anyone of you my cadaverous flock), shall be martyred for my celestial amusement. If any of you opaque, Neanderthal’s wish to maintain what insignificant mental stability you may have, do not cross swords with me. For I am Philip the Good, and you are not my equal.

I shall depart, for the moment, and leave you with a quote, “It is better to be beautiful than to be good, but it is better to be good than ugly”. Until later my defenceless pretties.

Philip the Good
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 10:12:07
The Tartan Army once again enhanced their reputation. A great party was had by all, by all accounts!

Rangers' Manchester veterans should take note.......
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11/09/2008 10:18:24
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Helter Skelter,

11/09/2008 10:20:32
I have lost count of the number of Scotland games that I have watched during which Bary Ferguson makes little or no contribution.

Equally I have never seen any of his performances in a Scotland shirt being the subject of the severe criticism they so richly deserve... cap'n unbookable avoided the kind of scathing criticism that Stephen McManus receives in these ratings.

Neil Lennon once expressed his frustration that in Scotland, he was always cast as the villain, whereas Ferguson was mollicuddled by the press and never truer words were spoken.

And you can see from the jarring contrast between what is written here about McManus and what we are used to reading about Ferguson after a poor match that little has changed since Lenny hung up his boots.
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Dave from Pakistan,

11/09/2008 10:22:43
Superb....we struggle against a team ranked outside the top 100, and it's hailed as a marvelous result; whilst Holland is delivering a 2-0 away thrashing to the team that thrashed us so convincingly. I've said it before George Volgts = Berti Burley
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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 10:25:36
#76

it was a good result. and Holland won 2-1. Holland are also better than us. muppet.

and Phillip. You may be Good, but you can't use an apostrophe for jack. Plurals don't need them you know.
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Finbar in the Sun,

Johannesburg,SA 11/09/2008 10:25:54
Absolutely delighted for the much maligned Broadfoot.

If i'm right and happy to be corrected.

He left Hibs as a kid,moved to St.Mirren,capped for under 21's,then got his dream move to Ibrox.

Asked to replace £9million pound player in a position he's not hugely familiar with and has got the head down and performed to the best of his ability game after game.

That header was for all the haters on here and elsewhere who lambast a decent honest pro who gives his all-NOTE this is from a Celtic fan.

Get behind the team and cut the negative bile.

Team ratings above are well harsh.

Bring on Norway.
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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 10:28:06
#75

Sorry, but if McManus plays badly, McManus will get criticism. that's the way it works. Ferguson has taken plenty of stick over some of his Scotland performances. Few are criticising Maloney, Caldwell or Robson because they all played pretty well.
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Barney Rubble,

11/09/2008 10:28:32
#66 - Weir and Thomson both reported and trained with Scotland before pulling out. Weir has since had an operation on a groin problem. Davis pulled out for personal reasons and Ferguson has, and will be, out for months. As for McCulloch, you have to be called up before you can pull out!

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Philip The Good,

Higher up the food chain 11/09/2008 10:28:38
Monty dear boy,

Please refrain from your disabled chat-up lines. If you have come here merely to trawl for fellow degenerates, then I will insist that you are banished from the site. This is not the place to pick up spouses and you statement, and I quote, “ I normally find jackboots - or any kind of leather boots- a turn on", has quite frankly, landed my celestial craft in the sea of disturbia. You sir are a criminal and physically perverse!!!

Philip the Good
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 10:33:05
Philip...Are you David Icke in disguise?
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Montgomery Flange,

London 11/09/2008 10:37:21
Philip, I come on here to enlighten the masses with my inciteful observations of the beautiful game, to swap banter with likeminded souls and to occasionally dish out a cyber 'beat-down' to those suffering from situational narciscism, mainly due to their inability to grasp their own limitations.

Hows your Dad, Brian Dowling?

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Skiver,

11/09/2008 10:42:37
Bring Them On only has a few valuable minutes of each day when he's NOT on the Scotsman site...

Well done Scotland. Poor performance but good result and that's all that matters with the players obviously low on confidence.
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Red Dykes,

Highland 11/09/2008 10:42:49
69* - Phillip - get back on your Lithium and phone you're CPN..........you're heading for another emergency admission
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Philip The Good,

Higher up the food chain 11/09/2008 10:47:42
Yes Fortuna’s wheel is spinning, but where shall it stop? Which of my flock shall be plucked from obscurity and rendered psychologically mute? Don't worry Indigo Midnight it shan't be you. You are bastion of flaccid light compared to these genetic abominations, and thus shall be spared my rapier wit. However, your point regarding my use of the apostrophe was that of a man struggling to deal with a superior intellect. You clearly are trying very hard to shake off the effects of generations of inbreeding that have caused you to hit the intellectual glass ceiling. Please do refrain from bating me further as it will only end in your inevitable mental breakdown.

Until later my defenceless pretties, I shall leave you with a quote, “Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

Philip the Good
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LiviGuy,

11/09/2008 10:51:06
#72 The 100- Scotland fans hardly compares with the 200,000 Rangers fans in Manchester. A better comparison would be the aftermath of the Euro96 Scotland England game and the Euro200 playoff. The following report of that paints a picture far worse than anything that happened at the UEFA cup final.

I'm not trying to excuse the the drunken neds, wearing Rangers tops (I wouldn't call them fans) who caused trouble, just pointing out that the Scotland fans aren't whiter than white either.

"ENGLAND - scotland (EURO 2000 PLAY-OFF)
A total of 56 people were hurt and 39 arrested in London after trouble before and after this Euro 200 play-off match. One fan was injured after being knocked over by police horse while others were hurt during clashes between rival fans.
One incident that occured was in the Strand and Trafalgar Square a couple of hours before the match when about 50 English fans attacked a group of around 300 Scottish fans drinking at the base of the statue in Trafalgar Square, missiles were exchanged between the 2 groups before police formed a line between the rival fans."
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Norman,

11/09/2008 10:52:39
Friend described it as gutsy last night and 3 points are 3 points. Wasn't that pretty was it. Good to see Scotland learning from Macedonia about following up dead balls! Thought Robson had got it, well done Faddy. Anothre international goal and well deserved, he does a good job for Scotland whereever he's played.

Caldwell looks better without McManus beside him. Need another centre half. Robson looks up for it, but not wasted out wide. We really miss Hutton.


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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 10:53:42
#92

what a relief. I'm not entirely sure my feeble cranial capacity could cope with the blinding illumination of your intellect.

I'll sleep easier tonight.
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Indigo Nightlight,

11/09/2008 10:57:01
#96

Yeah, the problem with your argument there is that the Scotland fans in the passage were attacked. Not exactly going on the rampage. It also doesn't say how many of the arrested fans (if any) were Scottish.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 10:58:32
92..This guy is a laugh...I imagine he sees hisself sitting in morning coat,top hat and twirrling a silverhanled cane as he imparts his words of wisdom to all and sundry...
Unfortunately,the truth is probably more unpalatable.I see him as a sad wee guy with delusions of adequacy,scouring Wikipedia and Google for rent- a- quote sites in a vain attempt to appear bright and interesting.....Sorry mate,aint working for me but please continue to contribute as laughter really is the best medicine...
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 10:59:28
#96,

The key part of your example is: "about 50 English fans attacked a group of around 300 Scottish fans"!

How does that statement reflect badly on the
universally celebrated Tartan Army?

Were you part of the group of 50? I'm assuming you're a Gers man!
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:03:44
Big Kirk, the lion of Reykjavik! Shame on Stephen McAnus for putting us a man down and gifting them a goal. I was impressed by wee Scottie Broon, playing within his limits against 2nd rate opposition he found his level. Not impressed by Darren Fletcher, how he gets a game for ManUre I will never know. Caldwell and Malooney did ok also, unsually for Celtic players in a Scotland jersey they appeared to be "trying a leg". Let's see how the hard core punters of the Piggery react to this at the next home game.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:05:32
NB are you Philip the Good in disguise...?
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Big T,

11/09/2008 11:07:35
"Pushed in the back" my e r s e!!! Have a look at the replay - just a robust challenge that McManus should have been man enough to stand up to!

McManus should be getting pelters for almost costing us 3 points.
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Addie,

11/09/2008 11:09:40
#88 Your a fine one to comment on that. Noone here apart from Puntit really enjoys your irrelevant comments on here neither.
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argonaut,

east lothian 11/09/2008 11:10:20

well done scotland......lets damage norway !
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LiviGuy,

11/09/2008 11:10:27
#105 Are you calling me English !!! Now you are looking for trouble :-). I'm a Rangers and Scotland fan, but I recognise that all teams, including Scotland have neddish followers, who are out to cause trouble, or at least respond to provocation, in certain circumstances.
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:12:09
#109

Not like you Swordsman to start throwing around wild allegations. Has someone upset you?
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:14:28
#117 Ron

Couldn't agree more. What do you think should be done?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:15:33
NB..Not at all! Just trying to get my head around your post at 108.Cant we just enjoy the fact that we now have three points in the bag and lose the character assassination of a player that seems wholly based on his club of choice?
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:19:15
#120

Hey Swordsman, I gave compliments to three Celtic players. I only questioned the likely reaction of the hard core Celtic fans, many of who are at best ambivalent to Scoland's fortunes.
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 11:20:49
#117,

Too true, as per usual, that BTO character ruins everything.....
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:21:05
Correction to the passage above...

"many of whom"
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Addie,

11/09/2008 11:21:32
# I find it quite amusing that you pick me up for spellling yet you cant even spell the word spelling. You are a joke in general though. And no, Im not from Alloa for your information.
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Philip The Good,

11/09/2008 11:22:40
Dear Peter,

Your decision to refer to me a Philip the Fudge packer was clearly inspired and only the most progressive simian could produce such stroke inducing put down. At this very moment I’m trying to regain control of my left eye, which is feverishly twitching with indignation. I presume that you are of English stock given your level 1 mongoloid verbal attack? No disrespect to the English as a nation, I have only met three individuals who hailed from this dark and socially inept land and found each and every one of them most fowl to my dispositivo di fiuto. You Sir have only highlighted what I suspected. The English are, in essence, semi retarded Germans!!!!

I shall leave you with a quote to silence the obese woman in your head, “First, God created idiots. That was just for practice. Then He created the English”
Philip the Good
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:24:13
#127 James

As professional Athletes the bhoys should not be oot drinking anyway. The failure here is not in the fact that both got "doings" but is that there minders also got skelped to leave those they were supposed to protect vulnerable.
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 11:25:05
#116,

If you're really a Scotland fan, you'll know we're the best supporters in the world without question!

Does anyone know if the English support rioted last night?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:25:07
NB I'm in two minds as to the ambivalence of the Hoops support ;@)
I will say this though,I dont know anyone who wouldnt cheer on Scotland when they play.I have attended the games,sat in bars and at home with passionate,committed Scotland fans who,incidently are Hoops fans to boot.Maybe you are seeing something that I cant...
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/09/2008 11:28:48
#124 funny that any ambivalence felt by celtic fans towards the scottish contingent will be much warmer than the outright hostility shown by rangers fans..that sort of coincided with the booing of gstq at the n ireland match....and lets compare the loyal gers fans treatment of kenny miller with that of the celtic fans treatment of hoim when he signed for celtic and maloney on his return to celtic park...at least celtic fans are learning not to play into the hands of the grubby pro rangers parasites that infest the media in scotland xxx
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:29:33
#134 Swordsman

I don't want to fall out over this, I admire you Celtic fans who also support Scotland. It is a shame the Celtic Ultra's, such as those behind the Tiocfaidh Ar La Fanzine and the like, do not share your views.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/09/2008 11:33:33
#139 so every rangers fan is a scotland fan ???? d'oh what a mug xxx
celtics captain said his proudest moment in football was being made scotland captain...sort of goes against your wee bile filled xiew of the world
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Montgomery Flange,

11/09/2008 11:33:41
Darkie, if, as you claim, there is a carefully constructed portrayal of Neil Lennon as a good guy, then you should have no trouble admitting theres an equally careful portrayal of Neil Lennon as something verging on the anti-christ. And lets make no bones about it, you are very much a sucker for the latter. Hooked, line and sinker. I suppose its the pavlovian reaction to Lenny's jackboots!

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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:34:13
NB As ever, there are a significant number of guys on ALL sides that have their own agenda...nothing to be done with them but to ignore,would seem to be the best course of action in my book...
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:35:25
#140 Monty

Why not? It was probably Celtic fans who took them task in the first place. Many Footballers are on 7 figure salaries, is it to much to ask that they forego a few "pub nights" in their 20's to stay in peak physical condition to do justice to the amount fans have to pay to fill their pay packets?

If these bhoys value drink more than their careers they are already on the road that leads down Neil Lennon Avenue, being a battered drunk lying in the gutter.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:40:25
NB and this from a 'gers man? Now I know you are in a mischief making mood lol
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LiviGuy,

11/09/2008 11:40:38
#124 Didn't see much ambivalence towards Scotland by the pseudo-Irish Celtic fans, with Scottish accents, in the Ireland end when Scotland played Ireland at Hampden a few years ago. And why don't we compare the ambilvelence towards Kenny Miller and and Steven Pressley when he signed for Celtic to the hatred and threats issued towards Maurice Johnston when he signed for Rangers.
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:40:40
#149 Monty

Just to clarify, they are already on the road that leads down Neil Lennon Avenue, being a battered drunk lying in the gutter.
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Class On Grass,

Gone fishing 11/09/2008 11:44:21
Well done Scotland, and George Burley. I hope you get the time to continue the improvement. The hyena's will have to find other prey at club level.
A well-taken inswinger of a corner is always the best option. Barry R well done, they never quite got over the first man on Saturday, so far better last night.
Is there any stats on the number of goals from in-swinging vs outies?
Barry R shows the OF bias on selection - he was immense at D'dee Utd.
In the dim-and-distant past, Mark McGhee when at Aberdeen never got much of a sniff (I think he got 1 game vs Canada, and scored) as per for Eric Black. Peter Weir, was the best left winger Ive ever seen, but nary a whiff of a scotland top. Stuart Beedie at D'dee Utd?
I also heard that Matt Le Tissier was eligible, but was never asked.(Maybe an ill-founded rumour of those good old times)

We dont see many players of their caliber today, yet the youth teams seem to be holding their own generally (ok U19s, maybe not this time). So where do we lose them?
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:45:18
#152 don't be coy Swordsman.

If you can give me one example in Scotland of an equivalent to "Tiocfaidh Ar La Fanzine | The fanzine for republican-minded Celtic Fans" I would be interested to hear about it. Specifically we are looking for a club fans site with stated links to an extraneous political or religious organisation.
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gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 11:47:43
My joy (and relief) at the sight of the first goal going in was immediately followed by an agonised clutch of the head when I realised who had scored it.

Jeez, he might even get picked again !

Have to question Burley's judgement for:-

a) picking the numpty in the first place

b) not relacing McManus with a proper centre back when he had people to choose from
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:49:05
NB two wrongs dont make a right but surely the presence of BNP,Combat 18 and the usual plethora of NI extremist materials should also be addressed by your good self?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 11:50:25
Any hoo...getting off the beaten track here...lets leave that shoite for another day...Back to the footie
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N B,

11/09/2008 11:55:21
#161 The groups you mentioned are made up of despicable erseholes. But what have either of these groups of Fascist B's got to do with any Scottish club?
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 12:00:45
Peter #158,

Good for you! At least you shouldn't need the old brillo pad and dettol treatment afterwards....:)
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 12:02:55
#167,

What exactly is a Zephyr Zodiac?

You could at least research your drivel!LOL
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Philip The Good,

Even hiher up the food chain 11/09/2008 12:10:28
Dear Swordie,

Am I led to believe that are not impressed with my comments here today? Surely my insightful jibes have illuminated this mundane literary dart board, and given much pleasure to my mentally immobilized underlings? As you have decided to plunge yourself head long into in to a cesspit of psychological torture by trying to communicate with me, I shall offer my opinion’s on you. I would say that you are possibly a level 1+ simian. You have undoubtedly been successful in life; in fact I would go as far to say that your ability to comprehend the world around you is remarkable. But as life is nothing more than probability and chance, I suppose Fortuna had to land in favour of one particular minion as some point (This is the problem with the cosmos, it lacks any real order or sense). That said you really are worst kind of simian, the type who through his own inability to grasp his limitations sees no issue with releasing his valve and showing the rest of his peers ( I don’t include myself in this as I am clearly of higher intellect ) with a waterfall of verbal urine. If you wish I shall educate you in these limitations so that you may be set free from this constant striving to attain a level that is simply not within your mental capabilities. It’s like watching a dog trying to open a can of Tuna; it’s not funny and not fair.

I shall leave you for the moment my pretties, by as always I shall leave you with a quote that may in some way shine a flashlight into the dark motionless recesses of your tiny minds, “The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity.”

Philip the Good
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 12:19:02
#170,

Judging by your utterances of fondness for old ford cars, could it be you were conceived in a Ford Zephyr or a Ford Zodiac?

Does your father, sometimes, wish he left you sticking to the dashboard, insteading of creating a monster?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 12:21:43
Philip.AH! I get it now! Took me a while to decipher the dribble,the self regard and downright pantpissing inanity that you spout ..you are that ridiculous boxing clown with the big truck,monacle and jodhpurs who thinks that by refering to themself in the third person makes him an intellectual giant...whats up mate,cant get on "I'm a celebrity,get me out of here"?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 12:26:29
DH..a particularly unsavoury mob of nutjobs who make Ghengis Khan look liberal....all that "white power" shoite..usually populated by the windae licking fraternity from the back of the class who dress in camouflage troosers and know how many rivets are on a Challenger Tank...YAWN!
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Boaby81,

11/09/2008 12:28:18
re: the critics of my calls for Mulgrew to be called up.

Maloney had one good performance off the bench and got called up. Commons played in League 1 last season and is currently in a dire Derby team. Boyd canna get a game for rangers and gets called up. O'Connor has played no more than Mulgrew and got called up. Meanwhile, Mulgrew is our most capped current U-21 player playing regularly and playing well (contributing more to AFC than Fletcher has to Hibs so far).

As for the others. Anderson was captain and lynchpin of the most consistent team outside the OF. He was the best Scottish defender in the SPL. Stephen Caldwell, Lee Wilkie got games ahead of him ffs.

Nicholson: player of the season last year for the first non-OF team to make it past Xmas in Europe since the last Dons team to do so. Regular goal-scorer, hard-worker. Currently playing and scoring in the Champ (more than commons is doing) so I exppect him to get a call up soon.

Severin has lost a yard and now is not a good idea, but he was once.

Barr plays in a rank Falkirk team bottom of the league, never been in the top 6 yet gets a call up ahead of Diamond. Berra, when Hearts were rank and in the bottom 6 too. Clubfoot is just a terrible footballer, if he was still at the midden he'd be nowhere near the team. Diamond meanwhile contained the Ukranians that humped Caldwell's Hibs 5-1, the Danes who beat ManU and Celtic, Russian millionaires and (for 90mins anyway) Kloase, Toni and co. He's played well against far better opposition than Berra, Barr and co.

ach, if Diamond was in hoops or blue he'd be in the squad. Witness McManus, Weir (after having told Scotland to FO), Pressley, Clubfoot, Webster (found out in the Prem ;-)), Caldwell, Kennedy (regular starter, aye right).

rant over
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/09/2008 12:29:59
#153..rangers fans and irony..so you are condeming celtic fans for doing years ago what rangers fans did last month....
mo johnstons situation with celtic fans was mainly due to him going to rangers after being pictured in a celtic strip..and him being a good player...i dont think many saw wee mo as a rc..and it appeared a bigger problem within the rangers fans...
and why are rangers fans booing kenny miller again ???
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Pistol Pete,

11/09/2008 12:37:36
David Weir fit for Saturday against Kilmarnock - surprise, surprise and shocking the way OF treat the national team. If every club followed their example we would have a reserve team out there. Pity that the players did not flock out to EPL clubs (where they would play for the national team), but the fact is that they are not good enough to play there.

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Calum Crubag,

11/09/2008 12:49:56
#3 and 5 - Player ratings are too generous. Maloney was a 7 or 8, Robson, Caldwell and Broadfoot not bad but the rest were woeful. This was a Bertie Vogts performance and we rode our luck. Couldn't string a pass together in the second half. Even MacFadden's penalty was awful.

Burley just isn't up to it.
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 12:52:34
185 - Big Weirisomes groin injury is the result of gravity working on his baw bag.

Happens at his age.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 12:55:47
Happy to bear the burden lads...got an O level in fly leg pulling at school...this numpty will be fun..lol
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mybestmatesa,

Johannesburg 11/09/2008 13:02:28
#127
I am sure you will know that Johannesburg has a reputation for "not being entirely safe". Never had a bit of bother here though. Before I came to SA I lived in Elderslie. As a frequent visitor to the city, (my grandparents and parents are from Glasgow), let me asure you that Glasgow is not entirely safe for many categories of person other than Celtic players. What chance Neil Lennon an unfortunate statistic like many before him?
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mybestmatesa,

Johannesburg 11/09/2008 13:03:06
#127
I am sure you will know that Johannesburg has a reputation for "not being entirely safe". Never had a bit of bother here though. Before I came to SA I lived in Elderslie. As a frequent visitor to the city, (my grandparents and parents are from Glasgow), let me asure you that Glasgow is not entirely safe for many categories of person other than Celtic players. What chance Neil Lennon an unfortunate statistic like many before him?
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 13:07:23
BTO - maybe he needs one of those stenna lift things up the side of each leg?

I'm away to patent that idea if it isn't already available.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:07:40
127...After living in Elderslie..Beirut would be billed as safe...A Ring'O'Bells man?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:08:19
Parliamoglesga I think..
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LiviGuy,

11/09/2008 13:08:35
#180 My point about Mo Jonston, concerned the sheer level of hatred shown towards him, and which continues to this day among some sections of the Celtic support.

Rangers fans objections to Kenny Miller were mainly based around the fact that he's just considered to be not a very good footballer (an opinion backed by his scoring record over tha last couple of years and shared by many Scotland and Celtic fans I think). I do amdmit some of it was down to the silly chest thumping after scoring for Celtic. Rangers fans have accepted Kenny Miller back after crossing the old firm divide, would Celtic fans do the same if Mo Johnston was brought back as a coach at Parkhead ? I don't think so.
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LinBP,

Linlithgow 11/09/2008 13:08:40
Kirk (limited ability) Broadfoot is in good company. Ever seen David Beckham try to tackle or kick a ball with his left foot.
As a Dundee United supporter, I look back fondly to the 1980s when half the team could be described as having limited ability. And a great coach made them into a team to match the best.
And a few of the Lisbon Lions were lacking in some of the finer skills of the game. But under Big Jock they became legends.
Time will tell how good a coach George Burley really is.
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view from the grassy knoll,

11/09/2008 13:10:05
back at the fitbaw......

decent result in the circumstances and a relief for george and terry - however, i doubt they will get much time in the job given the obvious press resentment about their appointment. To put this in perspective, see world rankings for iceland
105 Jamaica
106 Sudan
107 Iceland
108 Ethiopia
109 United Arab Emirates

we have beaten the football equivalent of John Candy's Cool Runnings.

scotland one place behind england though....
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 13:13:36
198 - this will be the same Mo Johnstone caught on TV getting his spectacles and waller act of the sign of the cross in the wrong order when sent of in the league cup final in 87.

He signed for Celtic and done the dirty based on some "Tapping" which was undertaken by Sally McMoist at a Scotland get together and signed for ReaRangers under the great beast.

It was as much to do with his manner in the ReaRangers tx that caused so much upset.

I also remember as much venom coming from ReaRangers fanz and 1 ReaRangers legend leaving the club as a result of the tx.

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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 13:17:06
75 Helter

Relax about BF, I know you cant!! McMnaus had a poor match, try to limit you're points to the players in the squad.

I thought Caldwell and Robson played well, and quite a good debut for the right back Broadfoot.

Why are you so concerned about Scotland and the players, you're opinion on these threads had us out of the WC qualifying after losing the first match.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:17:54
SOR..Pedant to the last, but Ginger ba's sending aff was the SKol cup in '86...Tony Sheppard was also sent packing by Valentine only to be allowed back on when it turned out that the ref had been hit by a 50 peice and not the player...Somethings never change eh? lol
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 13:26:36
Swordy - bang on!

From memory it was after ref had given ReaRangers customary penalty (was it not Davie Syme???) in the last minute?

Game was more or less over when Johnstone and Shepherd walked.

If memory serves my right and the game was over, Tony Shepherd would have been as well decking the ref (effectively he was given a free hit ticket) and pocketed the 50 pence. That may have bought a pint in '86.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:30:50
I think you are right about Syme...Was next to him at a Scotland V Malta (?) game soon after and Johnston scored from an overhead kick...As Syme was clapping I couldnt resist saying to him that the last time he clapped Johnston was when he sent him off in the Final...AH! the impetuosity of youth...!
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 13:35:51
#204,

Hammer throwers like McCulloch we can do without. He had his uses and scored a great goal against the Ukraine, but you've got to say the boy was extremely slow and limited! He was the footballing equivalent of someone with learning difficulties in everyday life. You could say the boy was a true Gers player.....
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 13:37:43
#204 is now #192!

Strange goings on at the Scotsman.......
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:39:14
211 Boom!,and indeed,Boom!
One swallow does not a summer make.
I Suppose if this interweb thingy had been around then We'd be gassing over the dodgy pen awarded to the 'gers and the ref's bias to all things light blue....SOOOO glad that we have moved on from that,hmnn?
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 11/09/2008 13:39:22
Well done to the players and Management great result. Mcmanus should get his backside booted. In such an important match which we had to win to get sent off is unforgivable. Great result George.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:41:23
BTO .was on the terracing in the Celtic end...Section N or O,I believe...was surprised to see Syme there.."Fair do's" thought I at the time, in amongst the punters..
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LiviGuy,

11/09/2008 13:45:34
#190 Mo Jonston didn't re-sign for Celtic because they were too tight to pay the tax on his contract with Nantes and I didn't see much venom from the Rangers
fans when he scored the winner in his second game against Celtic.

As for the late Davie Cooper leaving because of Mo Johnston signing that is a completely unsubstantiated rumour. Much more likely that he left as part of the
general clearout Souness had, and to get first team football when he wasn't getting a regular game for Rangers. But then it's easy to make allegations towards dead men who can't answer back isn't it.
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Philip The Good,

Higher up the food chain 11/09/2008 13:48:03
Dear Swordie,

The decision to indulge your imagery of I, Philip the Good as some kind of Berty Wooster impersonating pugilist, was most troublesome on my part. However, indulge I did and I must say I found it to be rather amusing in many respects. It truly is a fascinating insight into the mind of a level 1+ simian (your level 1+ is under serious scrutiny due to the immeasurable lack of structure to your comedy). I applaud your attempt’s to once again rise from your dilapidated mental state and launch a humorous riposte. The problem you face my uncomplicated minor, is that you are unable to fathom what your role is in this spherical splendry. Yours is but to spend infinite amounts of time stumbling, confused, crying out inaudible phrases that were taught to you by an over zealous grand mother. Asking why, but never having an answer. This is your gift of life; this is why I envy you. My role in the game of existence is to instruct, to teach, to remind the various levels of simians that in fact they nothing more than grains of sand riding the coat tails of Fortuna’s slipstream.

Please do not fear me; I am only your mentor. “"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

Philip the Good
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 13:48:12
Might have guessed BTO is a McCulloch fan......it figures! LOL

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Britishandproud,

11/09/2008 13:49:16
How hilarious that not only did McManus have a go at Big Lee yesterday and what happens, he lets his team mates down by handling the ball at getting sent off! LOL!!

Well done to Capt Kirk for his goal on his debut, not bad for someone with this limited ability Burley spoke about! He certainly saved his from being fired if they had drawn or lost!
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Red Dykes,

Highland 11/09/2008 13:50:31
Mc Culloch's worth for Scotland (and Rangers for that) was questionable - I mean what is he - attacking midfielder, wideman, striker ?? I've never worked it out - I happen to think he's none of these, and his retiral should be welcomed....spitting the dummy never looks clever.........especially when the team wins 2 days later....
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 13:51:06
Rorie#207,

He lives in Grangemouth and he's sniffed too many toxic vapours(that's enough about his Mum's knickers)!!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:54:53
Philip..Song moment...The Carpenters.."Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Space..."
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 13:57:51
209...Lads, Can we get the mod to look at this guy?...Looks like a case of "Grooming" here..
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Brian Hill,

11/09/2008 13:58:49
George Burley is a credit to the game. A real gentleman in the mould of Brown and Roxburgh and like them has a brain to go with it.

I think he's going to do very well as Scotland's chief if given a chance. The team have some very good prospects too and of course will be very much strengthened with the return of Ferguson and Hutton.

I wouldn't put money on Holland gaining 6 points from our match, four they will do well, 3 points each or 1 each is quite feasible.

While I'm on, any chance of getting rid of the patronising English commentator from Setanta?
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mybestmatesa,

Johannesburg 11/09/2008 13:58:59
Hi Swordsman
Occasionally the Ring o' Bells; but a dyed in the wool Cabin Bar man (It was still ther in '81 when I left)
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Red Dykes,

HIGHLAND 11/09/2008 14:00:41
Leave off Philip the Good - He's ia light in the firmament, an intellectual giant, an egotist supreme, whose insight and acerbic wit are a welcome break from the vitriolic sectarian jibberish that spreads through most of these posts - plus he's mentally ill or simply on the wind-up - and its not nice to mock the afflicted or facile
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 14:01:24
220 Now an Indian Restaurant called the Ajuba...Still I believe the beer is still as bad.....LOL
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 14:02:17
221 Communist Lesbos...What?
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Red Dykes,

Highlands 11/09/2008 14:04:26
Irish humour?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 14:05:00
And home of the Cocteau Twins...Wont have a word said against it!
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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 14:05:17
217 Swordy

Give Phillip credit. It only takes him just over an hour to cut and paste his eloquent passages, form where he is copying them, there is the question.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 14:05:27
226..poor attempt,I admit Sorry!
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Red Dykes,

Highland 11/09/2008 14:06:29
Grangemouth - A desert wi windaes
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 14:08:06
Dman...I've laughed like a drain since he showed up...great craic..In need of serious medication (and lessons in grammar,sentence structure etc)surely but,hey! let the guy let off steam..
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Red Dykes,

Tain 11/09/2008 14:08:07
229 -Swordsman?? Is that from a porn flick or wishful thinking or do you flash an epee now & again
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 14:11:16
The Philip the goof fella is blowing smoke up his own gasket with the PG Woodhouse comparison.

On a literal basis, more on a par with Enid Blyton methings.

How is Aunt Fhanny?
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AJ Fife,

11/09/2008 14:18:24
Rorie#235,

My mistake, it's no Grangemouth, it's Bathgate! Unhealthily close to Alloa though. Make sure the washin' gets taken in every night. You dinny want to encourage BTO to creep aboot yer back girden! Could be unsavoury.........
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 14:24:25
233 being of the male gender and live,as I do in Swords,Co Dublin,I thought it appropriate.....Like the porn alalogy though...Now where did I leave that Digi Cam?
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mybestmatesa,

Johannesburg 11/09/2008 14:44:02
Notwithstanding the insights and comments on last night's game (we didn't get it here - had to watch England cuffing Croatia) is anyone else concerned that we have employed a manager who states Iceland 1; Scotland 2 is the best result of his career? I'm all for supporting George in his job, but I would have hoped we would have employed someone with better credentials than that!!
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Jealousy,jealousy,

11/09/2008 14:56:05
#239 BTO

Are you big in Japan?....
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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 14:56:06
241

His Scotland managerial career, was Burleys point.

I admit that was a tough one to figure out!
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Philip The Good,

11/09/2008 14:57:06
Dear Survivor and Swordie,

How satisfying it is to have a pair of simians, who on any other occasion would be squabbling about localised odium. Pull together like gravity enhanced homosexual limpet’s to a rock, and attempt to attack my omnipotent sensibilities. This truly has been a worthwhile experiment. The sight of two unsophisticated combatant’s from either side of their feeble divides coming together mean I have accomplished my goal for today. I may now kick back with the sounds of the blues legend, Robert Johnson and roll some highland tobacco.

It’s been wonderful, as always I shall part with a literary bottom cough. “"As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."

Philip the Good
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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 14:57:18
244

Yes he is 5'8"
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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 14:59:36
246 PTG

Hallelujah,

Now I'm off to the golf course.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 15:09:26
PG Tips...God love you son...Now, as Chris Eubank's speech writer,do you have any other pearls of wisdom to impart to us unworthy minions?Maybe a wee treatise on megalomania,narcissism or maybe a hastiy scrawled bon mot on the back of your Psychiatric clinic attendance card?DO tell..
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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 15:09:42
250

Yes,,Swan matches


251

The boy took his goal well, and did a decent job at right back, for a centre half I may add. I am sure Helter would agree with that assessment.

Later.
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:13:27
Hey Swordy, going through my camp-english language converter,I think that this Philip the Goof fella is suggesting that we are opposite sides of the Glasgow divide.

In other words, he is calling you a H*N!!!

Couldnae possibly mistake me for wan o' them.

Under old laws, it would have been fair and reasonable retribution to insert this guys cane where he sticks his ferrets!

I'll leave you to it!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 15:13:50
Bye Dman...Straight on to the first Tee now ,no detour to the 19th hole!
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Daillyman,

11/09/2008 15:17:36
255 Swordsman

I have a dozen 19th holes packed in ice in the bag already.

Now gone.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 15:20:14
SOR..I have a feeling that this one is that slightly oily Scoutmaster type...Stays with his mammy,works in the local swimming baths and subscribes to the Peoples Friend and knits Fairisle tanktops as his only leisure pursuit,of course,the local female population may have to dry their underwear indoors as there is a distinct possibility that our boy loves the feel of a whalebone corset or two...
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:24:15
259 - we need to act.

We'll be reading about this fella going on a killing spree in his local town.

Going mental with an uzi in an off the shoulder number with his make up running in the rain.

"I only ever wanted to be loved" as a pops another innocent victim.

If we don't - we may never have a clear conscience when it inevitably happens.
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:27:32
BTO - do you know what a plamph is?

That will answer your question
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:29:31
from wikipedia

tae plamph

A practice of deriving sexual pleasure by sniffing the contents of a used pair of lady's undergarments, usually worn about the head like a crusty hat.
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:32:48
To use in context:

Philip The Goof is a PLAMPH
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:33:31
BTO - see 263
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/09/2008 15:39:44
good god in Govan..later guys...!
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 15:44:00
263 is a genuine definition of the word.

check it out.

I like the wearing as a "crusty hat"

Should be mandatory on Ladies Day at Ascot
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Media 1,

cape town 11/09/2008 16:12:46
I have said it before;

12 teams in the top league who play each other four times as well schools that are not forced to play football is a recipe for disaster.

The Scottish psyche toward football is also dire - take a look at how many signs you see around Scotland that read "no ball games"

It is unbelievable! That is one thing I always notice when I am back in Edinburgh!

Scotland will not qualify for 2010 because we do not have the correct systems in place to do so. There needs to be a drastic change in the way things are done and a good start would be a 20 team top league who play each other twice
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Media 1,

cape town 11/09/2008 16:20:12
#279 bring em on

No need to offer any respect -
But it would be good if the powers that be in Scottish football took the game seriously and began implementing systems that gave us a chance.
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Media 1,

cape town 11/09/2008 16:21:27
Rorie

That is because nobody lives in Alloa
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Philip The Good,

Higher up the food chain 11/09/2008 16:33:17
Survivor,

Are you suggesting I’m some kind of fiend? And that I would gain gratification by placing soiled undergarments upon my head like some kind of depraved halo? The sexual seam that runs through your postings is of no fascination to me. I believe you to be somewhat frustrated with your lot, perhaps a Mother who’s love over stepped the moral boundaries? During my many years of travel I’ve found this to be a common trait amongst simians that have ceased to ponder and colonize some inexplicable manufactured religion. I would ask that you refrain from this discourse as it only serves to fuel your very real moral, social, psycho-sexual inconveniences. I have already explained in length to one of your fellow degenerate’s about the average simian’s role in life. I do not wish to go through this again, as its heavy existential content would in all likely hood un-coil your tightly wrapped amoral philosophy on human survival.

It’s rare to meet a fool who is aware of his foolishness; I do believe that it’s my duty to inform these intellectual deformities of their plight.


Philip the Good
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Survivor Of Riots,

11/09/2008 17:17:15
Philip the Goof - are you one of those Sandringham Fellows?

You see to come from a background were parental love and affection were sadly missing and replaced by boarding school "shenanigans".

It wasn't your fault.

You can move on.

You are in my prayers.

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paulmac,

surrey 11/09/2008 17:17:18
289

Oi....Feel Good....how's it hingin?
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paulmac,

surrey 11/09/2008 17:22:22
Again I ask the 3 questions all Scottish fans need answered....

1. Is there a more depressing national antham than that Icelandic suicide song?

2. Is there a commentator more gash than Scott Booth?

3. Is Darren Fletcher related by blood to George Burley?

The truth must come out!
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Jealousy,jealousy,

11/09/2008 17:32:22
#305 paulmac

1. No

2. Surely not

3. He must be, its the only explanation. On that note is Scott Brown related to Strachan? ;)
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the beast,

11/09/2008 17:33:05
Philip the Good, Hats of to a good read and come back anytime, Do they play football on your planet?
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the beast,

11/09/2008 17:33:38
Philip the Good, Hats of to a good read and come back anytime, Do they play football on your planet?
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the beast,

11/09/2008 17:34:05
Philip the Good, Hats of to a good read and come back anytime, Do they play football on your planet?
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Philip The Good,

11/09/2008 17:43:59
Dear Paulmac,

I presume by your loutish greeting that wish to enter in to diologue with me. Undoubtedly you feel emboldened and will now attempt to travel down the well worn route of trying to pit your level 1- simian intellect against a power that is of such magnitude your oxygen free genetically challenged cranium cannot possibly comprehend. I do not wish to damage what's left of your befuddled reality. I implore you not to continue this disobedience as it will only end in the enviable break down of you sense's and in all probability you will have a bowel seizure.

In the intervening time between beating your peers with your manic view on I, Philip the Good, God, or indeed anything you can think of, please digest the following quote, “Man and his deed are two distinct things. Whereas a good deed should call forth approbation, and a wicked deed disapprobation, the doer of the deed, whether good or wicked always deserves respect or pity as the case may be.

Philip the Good
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Red Dykes,

HIGHLAND 11/09/2008 17:53:52
Phillip - Take your pills and phone your CPN - The faecal contamination of your meninges is rampant again
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 17:57:30
#305

1.GSTQ
2.NO
3.No, but he does call him "Uncle"
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Bemused and above it all,

11/09/2008 18:07:32
#310
a half stab a quoting Plato then?
So what makes a man good if you wish to have such a philosophical debate?
And is being good right? and if so, does that make it just?
For who decides what actions may be judged as such?
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brettgallacher,

edinburgh 11/09/2008 18:26:46
its about time burley and the rest of the braindead folk at the sfa got booted out, we will never qualify from this group ,2nd place is the best we can do then its a play off against teams that are far better than us, we must use the 2yrs to prepare the young players in the teams plus the young ones coming through ie fletcher, mc cormack etc not the old age pensioners like davie weir, alexander ,hartley and king barry thats the guy who goes back collects the ball of a centre half passes it square and moves ten feet just gettingout the 18 yard box by that time even san marino are all over us like a cheap suit
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stan free,

westhill 11/09/2008 18:32:20
310 can anyone enter into diologue with you then ?

was on the lee mcculloch thread when it ws shut down, pity as there seems to be more gash spouuted here
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Philip The Good,

Have I a mate??? 11/09/2008 18:43:06
What is this? A little fire has been lit in my heart; I do believe a little pretty has entered the affray. What say ye Bemused ye saucy knave? Can you imagine the possibilities of our two intellects combining to create peace and harmony in the non physical world? I think perhaps you may even exceed all expectations and score a Simian level 2-, a rare but not unique feat. This would make you slightly more dangerous due to your higher education. Or have I been too hasty to heap praise? Could it be that you are nothing more than yet another simpleton of the conveyer belt? Please do not disappoint Bemused, it’s been a long day and I tire of wallowing in a graveyard of Darwinian cul de sacs.

My darling Bemused I think the following quote should stir a tear, "The heart that breaks open can contain the whole universe."

Philip the Good

P.s The quote was not Plato, but that of Mohandas K. Gandhi
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Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 11/09/2008 18:50:14
Great result. Well done boys.

Look at some of the results again. International is not what it was even 10 years ago. ALBANIA top a group!!

Let us be positive, accept our limitations. Get off the silly Green v Blue stuff. ( leave that for Saturdays.)

Relax and enjoy Scotland challenging for 2nd spot. How on earth could they realistically compete with a squad as deep, and talented as the Dutch in a qualifying group.

They have better players at every position. Especially strikers..

All the best.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/09/2008 19:21:09
Patrick The Good

Amazingly, you can provide a certain level of insight and entertainment when you deliberately omit football from your posts.

Remember. A big man is hard on himself. A small man is hard on others.
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stan free,

westhill 11/09/2008 19:23:59
316 i used to share a flat who quoted all that nonsense
(but even he could spell diologue correctly)

i liked your jibe on the other thread having a go at the yank who was heaping praise on beckham ; kickball
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radge dug,

Alba gu brath! 11/09/2008 19:31:42
Thought Scotland were abysmal. Some good moments but could easily have lost it. Sure, it's an away win, but it's Iceland not Italy we played.

Too many wasters not capable of basic skills like trapping, passing and retaining possesion - Fletcher, MacManus (why was HE the captain), Miller, Alexander, Brown and Hartley. Trouble is, we can't replace all of them.

Even before MacManus' handball, Iceland could've had 2 or 3 at least. I just hope a better team doesnt' rip us apart.
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radge dug,

11/09/2008 19:33:00
#318 - of course, Rangers showed us the path to glory by staying in Europe until... middle of August?
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Stars in your eyes,

UK 11/09/2008 19:40:08
A better performance from Scotland, but still a million miles from World Cup level. Half that team are not good enough and I don't think there is much in reserve judging by what I see in the SPL. Gordon, Caldwell and Robson seem to have staked their place in the team, but the rest should be looking over their shoulder's, because there are a lot positions up for grabs.

McManus's rating 3/10 is a bit low. He was on the winning side you know. Quite low marks allround in fact.

A good debut by Bigfoot (ahem...Broadfoot) but he is a bit slow I think to be first choice. A good utility player. He should retain his place in the squad.
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 20:19:47
#325

Manchester will never forget.
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Richardinho,

11/09/2008 20:19:57
'thats why scotland need a good rangers man in there, someone with big match experience who knows what to do'

yeah, like walk out on the team halfway through a qualifying campaign? no thanks.
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stan free,

westhill 11/09/2008 20:30:25
notice a few posts about us not having the same quality anymore - i well remember our 'world class' players of 86 making verrry heavy weather of beating a much weaker iceland (siggi johnson the name of the day)a rare leighton penalty save and a bett penalty scraped us the 1-0 win we needed (from memory this really was a must win game (2pts)to keep pace with Wales for the 2nd qualification spot for Mexico ; generally in the eighties we were pretty dire away, esp in an attacking sense, which is strange with the perceived talent we had on board
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 20:54:55
#328

How convenient.

We also believe Wattie.
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Richardinho,

11/09/2008 21:00:10
'can you blame walter for that?'
er..yes!
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 21:02:35
#331

He's certainly a leg end.
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Richardinho,

11/09/2008 21:20:39
Actually I can perfectly understand why he turned his back on his country. He was simply following in rangers unpatriotic tradition.
As for Wattie being better than Strachan-LOL!; three championships in a row, including two during Wattie's time suggests otherwise.
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jerrymanders,

Dramatising 11/09/2008 21:57:42
#334

The Scotland fans couldn't understand how he could walk away in their hour of need. The Nation expected. The Nation yearned. The Nation demanded. Yet to no avail. Every man has his price and Uncle Wattie went for the filthy lucre. Turned his back on his Nation. Left us in our hour of need. However, the Nation did not mourn. He is not to be trusted. Beware him and also his Aunt Sally, for he is his lapdog and he feeds from his Master's bowl, or is it his bowel? In just a few years, when he is very old, Wattie will regret this decision. His Jester will remind him of his mistake. Time and again. And his Nation shall never forget.

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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 22:05:37
#338

He won 6. The Beast won 3.
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darkhorse.,

11/09/2008 22:29:25
Predictions made. Joker played.

12 pts minimum.
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darkhorse.,

11/09/2008 22:31:30
Predictions made. Joker played.

12 pts minimum.
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darkhorse.,

11/09/2008 22:31:31
Predictions made. Joker played.

12 pts minimum.
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darkhorse.,

11/09/2008 22:36:34
Predictions made. 12 pts minimum. Prepare to be whooped pundit and HT
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darkhorse.,

11/09/2008 22:38:14
I am supremely confident.

Although out the country this weekend I have my asian betting syndicate pulling all the strings.
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darkhorse.,

11/09/2008 22:41:42
Sorry for the triple posts. very slow network connection.....BT...nuff said
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 23:14:45
#348

To your head? Yeh, that explains it.
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 23:18:53
#347

Don't worry, you're up there all right.
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 23:29:03
#353

Correction: His name is Keech Jackhun.
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 23:30:00
#352


actually, #353 as well!
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Bosco Bhoy,

11/09/2008 23:33:44
353

Remind us again whas it not the fans of RFC who have 'turned' against their last two managers?

Indeed their current coach was also starting to feel the heat of the WATP brigade only a few months ago prompting him to remind them 'what side their bread was buttered' in relation to having his services.

Dont worry about us Celts, we will stand by our club as we are the mighty Celtic Football Club.

Hail Hail
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jerrymanders,

11/09/2008 23:39:46
#357

The Daily Ranger is not to be trusted. Just like Uncle Wattie.
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the beast,

11/09/2008 23:41:49
Does no-one sleep on this thred? #339 what did I win?
Admittedly I was a complete numbty last nite in my drunken bla bla rant, but I believe I apologised and knew I was a twerp.
But Peter the cyborg was a breath of fresh air, did he take off agian to outer space? Who does he support has anyone figured that out yet? BTO?
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the beast,

11/09/2008 23:53:33
pundit, I think you may have been in bed when I made my apologies, I figure you work nite's and I done it this afternoon so listen up and stop sleeping during the day and be on here both day and nite!!
And if it is your predictions in the mini league, your strugling but yet talking a good game...
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Helter Skelter,

11/09/2008 23:53:45
A trip to Motherwell is ideal preparation for the first Champions League match.
Rarely if ever can you take three points home from fir park without putting in a strong and committed performance. You have to scrap for everything, there won't be that many chances so the finishing has to be good and the tackling robust.

Getting out of there with three points is no easy task, and when achieved should be acknowledged as a top notch result in the spl.

Some silly mistakes cost us the match against rearrangerz and we paid a high price for some slack play which cost us two very sloppy goals...and the other two resulted from very poor defending, although in fairness it was a screamer of a strike by mendes...the point is, he should have been picked up.

So, it really takes only a step up in concentration and most of rearrangerz goals wouldn't have gone in. I believe that the players will have recognised that, and taken it to heart.
That being so, I expect to see the champs on fine form, with Boruc getting his focus back.






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the beast,

12/09/2008 00:07:15
Pundit, were you once a strugling actor and did bit part rolls in Grange Hill? And then you got the part of the milky bar kid?
The creamist milk the whitest bar, the goodness that's in milky bar!! Lol!

HHGH
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Helter Skelter,

12/09/2008 00:08:31
'the fans' have turned on him again.

Ahem...'the fans' do not speak with one voice.
'The fans' are a broad church of opinion, unlikely ever to be unanimous on anything....in fact one of the most attractive attributes of football is that it gives us a chance to engage our personal judgement.

There will always be some fans who will disapprove of Strachan's successor, and BTW, if O'Neil had stayed another season, his departure in the end might have been somewhat less dignified than it was...MON was given decent bucks to build his Celtic side, but budgets were about to get slashed left right and centre, and who can say how MON might have faired on a shoestring when the squad needed an overhaul.

Strachan has made a mark for himself in Celtic's great history and will enjoy the support of thousands of Celtic fans through thick and thin.
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the beast,

12/09/2008 00:14:12
punditt do you still royalties? And are you spening it on burds booze and drug's and squandering the rest!!
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Mike Masterton,

12/09/2008 08:43:00
Well done Kirk good scottish name lol BUT we let in another goal, not good enough.
Burley claims this result is his best of career, not much of a career Geordie boy !

 

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