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Published Date: 16 December 2008
KILMARNOCK last night re-ignited their ambitions of a top-six finish in the SPL with a victory which saw Motherwell plunge to second bottom of the table in front of their lowest home attendance of the season.
Mark McGhee's stuttering side have taken just one point from their last six games and their status as best of the rest from last season is an ever-dimming memory as they now face what is a relegation battle against their Lanarkshire rivals Hamilton Accies at New Douglas Park on Saturday.

Manuel Pascali's first-half header and a smart finish from Allan Russell, the former Airdrie United striker's first goal for Kilmarnock, earned a welcome win for Jim Jefferies' team who are now just two points off the top six pace.

The swathes of empty seats around Fir Park told their own story with Monday night football clearly not an attraction in the minds of many supporters. Even those who opted to watch the game on television might have found it difficult to resist channel-hopping as the action which unfolded was decent, but hardly gripping.

Kilmarnock, already deprived of much of their pace and flair as a consequence of the unavailability of Medhi Taouil, David Fernandez and Craig Bryson, did well to react as positively as they did to the loss of another of their more creative players, Danny Invincibile, after just 30 minutes.

The Australian appeared in considerable distress after suffering a head injury in an accidental clash with John Sutton. After a lengthy stoppage to administer treatment, he was led away on a stretcher and replaced by Iain Flannigan.

If Motherwell might have been expected to seize the initiative at this stage, however, it was the visitors who made the breakthrough ten minutes before the interval. Steven Saunders, a 17-year-old defender signed from Queen's Park last summer, was making his first starting appearance for Motherwell as deputy for the suspended Paul Quinn.

The teenager made a terrific penalty area tackle to dispossess Donovan Simmonds just as the striker prepared to shoot, but from the corner conceded in the process Kilmarnock scored. Gavin Skelton floated the ball in from the right to pick out Pascali, the Italian making the most of the space afforded him by the home defence to guide his header beyond Graeme Smith.

While the goal did not exactly come against the run of play, Motherwell had created the best opportunities beforehand which only added to the frustration of the home fans who jeered their team off at half-time.

Chris Porter came close to an early opener, playing a neat 1-2 with Sutton before driving his powerful shot narrowly off target. Porter should then have done better when he latched onto an excellent through ball from Keith Lasley, but this time the striker allowed himself to be muscled off the ball by Garry Hay who managed to toe it behind for a corner.

Motherwell threatened again when Steven Hammell's pass sent Sutton clear but after a fine first touch had helped him take the ball around Kilmarnock 'keeper Alan Combe, the Englishman shanked his shot horribly with the goal at his mercy. In the closing stages of the first half, Motherwell enjoyed considerable territorial advantage as they pressed for an equaliser but it was Kilmarnock who came closest to scoring again before the break when Flannigan's low shot on the turn was held by Smith.

Skelton provided Smith with another test at the start of the second half, the 'keeper getting down well to his left to keep out the midfielder's rasping drive from 22 yards. Motherwell lacked both mobility and imagination in the final third of the field and McGhee made his first change of the night after 55 minutes, sending on teenager Jamie Murphy for the toiling Sutton.

There was at least an increased sense of urgency from the home players and they were unfortunate not to equalise when Porter drove in a terrific shot from the edge of the penalty area. The ball took a slight deflection to add to the degree of difficulty for Combe but the Kilmarnock keeper was up to the task, throwing out his right hand to divert it onto the crossbar.

McGhee committed more players into attack when he replaced Bob Malcolm with former Celtic winger Jim O'Brien, and Combe made another fine save as the pressure was stepped up. Porter, however, should have given the 'keeper no chance from close range after a shot from Stephen Hughes was deflected kindly into his path. It proved a costly miss as Kilmarnock doubled their advantage with 13 minutes remaining. Jamie Hamill, who had delivered a solid if unspectacular shift in midfield, nodded the ball through to Russell who burst into the penalty area and drove a precise low shot across Smith and into the corner of the net.

Motherwell (4-4-2): G Smith, Saunders, Reynolds, Klimpl, Hammell; Lasley, Hughes, Malcolm (O'Brien 64), McGarry (D Smith 82); Porter, Sutton (Murphy 55). Subs not used: Nielsen, Fitzpatrick, McHugh, Hutchison.

Kilmarnock (4-4-2): Combe, Murray, Pascali, Wright, Hay; Invincibile (Flannigan 31), Fowler, Hamill, Skelton; Russell (Sammon 86), Simmonds. Subs not used: Rascle, Locke, Corrigan, Clancy, Nolan.



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thomas ferguson,

16/12/2008 07:35:09
Mark McGhee should concentrate on his own team rather than comment on his beloved celtic, and stay away from radio until his team gets some points on the table, i hope he gets his dream of being celtics manager he could take them to a new low
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 08:36:44
McGhee was one of the candidates for the Scotland job.

Would he have done better or worse than Burley...
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Northern Hibby.,

16/12/2008 08:42:29
Looks like a bad case of third-placed team syndrome. Often, the best player in your team is confidence and if he does not turn up you are gubbed.
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The Maroon Seasider,

Dunbar 16/12/2008 08:48:36
That was a dreadful advert for Scottish football, and more of the same on Saturday. Oh, and three predictor points down the pan as well! Cheers, Mark...
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16/12/2008 09:02:34
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 09:12:34
McGhee won't be cutting doon on his drinking for a wee while, I would say
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16/12/2008 09:18:45
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Sportivo,

Porty 16/12/2008 10:17:02
If they finish bottom, league reorganisation will save them....again. The team that can never be relegated always manage to cheat their way out of it.

Reorganisation, administration, unsuitable stadiums.....they'll find a way.
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Iain Bhern,

16/12/2008 10:21:12
I wonder (and it's serious question) how many Hearts fans are now glad that McGhee turned the job down. Not having the best of seasons is he!
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 10:31:42
Fadin' and Chesney....where does one start?

Who is the mole? Could it BE Ole Arty...The Holie Moly?
Lawwell is in search and destroy mode, so I thought in this season of goodwill I'd help him along before he resorts to an ID parade.

A quick search on wikipedia confirms

"Moles can be found almost anywhere in North America, Europe and Asia, although there are no moles in IRELAND"

So we can rule out Aids himself, Ugly Gillian and Paddy McCourt, even though the latter could have been living underground for the past 4 months such is his aversion to public appearance.


What is the particular insult repeated over and over again? Did he mention hair colour, vertical deficiency, and female genitalia in the same sentence?




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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 10:53:07
DH..
there are several reasons that Moles aren't to be found in Ireland.

1:All available space underground is reserved exclusively for Leprechauns.

2: Should Moles make it to Ireland they would have a hard time burrowing as the number of buried arms caches would hinder their progress significantly

3:Being short sighted to the point of blindness,Moles are highly sought after candidates for officiating in any football match involving Glasgow Rangers.
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 10:53:22
#12

Wait for the barmy army of wannabe financiers in deflect mode. They've filled out the crisis loan application so they can get the weans Christmas pressies. With £250 in the back pocket, and a Haddows voucher they are fully tooled up to discuss the finer points of banking and corporate finance.
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 10:56:18
Motherwell definately struggling from 2nd season syndrome.

Their timing hasn't been the best to slip from competing at the higher end of the table as ReaRangers financial implosion means that 2nd place could be a real possibility for any team pushing the cash strapped crisis club.

As we all know, ReaRangers have been told to get their squad down to 18 supplemented by youngsters.

We have been spun a line on the 10 which will leave, but in a buyes market, that could be any 10 which have a sellable value....that'll be a struggle.

With the cull on the squad and an inability to improve their own first team, both Dundee Utd and Hearts have a real opportunity to go for that 2nd place spot in the New Year, as ReaRangers depleted squad will include less quality than both of these teams.

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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:01:29
Of course "Walter" who once waived the Ipox cheque book with much gusto to secure victory, is now suffering from the "Turkey at Christmas" syndrome.

He knows whats coming...he just can do nothing to stop it.
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:04:51
#17 - a bit like sir sid in that respect?
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:07:41
....News just in...

Apparently environmental pressure group Greenpeace has voiced its concern that a violent cull of dumb,defenceless animals in the south side of Glasgow this January will go ahead as planned.

A spokeman for Greenpeace was quoted as saying "We condemn, without reservation, the vicious crime about to be perpetrated on these poor defenceless creatures.As Rangers players they are very susceptable to getting hammered.The fact that some of them are in their dotage means that they are incapable of escaping the cull.Some of the younger ones have little or no intellegence and as a result could find themselves caught up in the decimation planned.

When contacted,a spokeman for the ailing Glasgow club (unfortunate term,I grant you)said that they would resist any attempt to disrupt the planned slaughter...especially from a mob with "Green" in their name...
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:10:52
I was rather hoping Harlem Tam was about. He set up the Scotsman Predictor league. If your'e looking in HT how about a Celtic Mole Predictor league?

I'll go with Shaun Moleoney.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:11:15
Must be galling for Wattie who once waved the Ibrox chequebook to all and sundry.Now the only thing he can wave is a tear stained hankie as he says ta ta bella to half of his squad...
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:12:29
Doh...I for E ASAP OK?
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:16:42
(H)Oplus, indeed they did match the top teams, though despite millions into the club from ENIC, NTL, Dave King and Champs League money for a decade in the 90's. They came out the erchie end of the millenium some 80m in debt.

Heres how matching the top dollar of the European teams transferred into champions league points returns from the start of the Champs League ('92) until the end of the 9IAR period:

92 -1st season 8 pts. 2 wins and 4 draws.

93 - pumped out by mighty Levski Sofia (who were punted in the next qualifier and never made the champs league)

94 - Pumped by AEK Athens (who finished bottom of their league section on 2 points)

95 - beat the Cypriot champs to qualify and posted 3 points (Record low for a British team). However, hammered 8-1 on aggregate against Juve. This is important when you consider the standard of opposition which Celtic have defeated.

96 - 3 points again (equalling previous record of poor return) Horsed 5-1 by Ajax on aggregate. Again, a severe hiding by one of the top sides.

97 - horsed by mighty Gothenburg 4-1 in qualifiers and never made champs league. Gothenburg finish bottom of their group on qualifying.

98- End of 9IAR period.

Now that the credit lines at the banks have been cut, it'll be a wee while before you get that kind of money again.

Having looked at how it was squandered previously, one would hope that Lloyds TSB are more prudent than the previous banking institution.
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:18:22
shocking waste of money there to be honest
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:20:31
#23

Not many tears shed by me for some of the makeweights on the fringes. Meanwhile in the east end I foresee permarage if McGeady is forced out.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:25:11
DH Wattie's Winalot Wonders are putting the overtime on that one trying to curry favour with Sid,Wattie,Sally and Bainocchio (or as I call them,the gang of four--Apologies to the great 80's band of the same name).
Pity that when the Hoops lift that four in a row flag,the writing will be well and truly on the wall for RFC.Where will these lap top lap dogs go for that bonio and reassuring pat on the head then...?

Remember lads..A dog is not just for christmas...
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:30:10
in the current climate, what would the going rate be for a player who:

Has a reputation for being stubborn, resistant to managerial advice on development of his game and likes a swally'n fight up the toon.

While showing promise in his formative years has failed to make a menaingful impression in Europe, and is anonymous against the better sides in a poor league.

Ditto above for his adopted country at international level.

Is currently injured and may require extended rest or surgery to reach full fitness.

£3 mill tops.
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:30:32
Swordy..."Walter" should have thought of that before he gave bloodhound lookalike Charlie Adam a long term contract.

Hows he supposed to get something similar?

Even the dog rescue centre ReaRangers used to use (often also called Hearts) is closed for the time being.

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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:31:43
#29

Remember lads..A dog is not just for christmas...It is in the Nakamura household.
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:34:10
Will the £3m (in installments) cover Big Bobo's Loyalty bonus? I doubt it.
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 11:40:16
I think that it is insulting to talk of the "Ibrox Cull".

Here we have a group of players, many of them international stars, who have just reached that point in their playing careers where they can serve the game more by making a move.

I call it "Ibrox Christmas generousity"
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Mac Father,

16/12/2008 11:41:07
5* 44 Mug: Is Roy Keane really a failed manager? Just because he didn't win the Champions League, it doesn't make him a failure.

Who is more successful, a manager who wins the SPL title after a season long battle with one other team, or a novice manager who brings a team from near the bottom of the Championship to the title at the first attempt?
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:42:19
Falkirk on Sunday should have been a test for Celtic. What with Fatmac bursting a gut but fewer goals than Kenny Miller, dressing room fall outs, moles, injuries and squigglers trundling past the overweight cleric, it should be an even contest.

The consequences of more dropped points ahead of a trip to Fortress Ibrox is not lost on the administrators. Two games on the bounce with no referreing support will not become 3. Celtic need a safe pair of hands to see them through at Falkirk.

Cue the "fan with a whistle"... Eddie Suville Smith.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:42:40
DRS..The thought of a Bloodhound at Ibrox makes me think of "Hector's House" with Wattie as Hector,Sally as Zaza and Sid as Kiki the frog..."I'm a great big serial runner up Hector".Yes,that was your catchprase...
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:42:53
Poor old Brahim Hemdani....brought to the club on Mintys private jet and promissed all sorts of success. It was heralded as another coup at the time. "Sir Sid always gets his man" was the usual trumpeted KAK....except of course when he dizny.

3 years on, not a league medal to his name and a negotiation under way to move him off the wage bill.

Will Minty and entourage accompany him off the property?

Can Minty afford the fuel for the private jet to get him home?
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 11:45:40
#38

They'll give him a wee spin around the ground in the big Ibrox lawnmover.

One of the few in Europe, BTW
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 11:47:06
On SSN...Ince sacked. Maybe McGeady will stay and Ches will move on?
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:50:55
#39 BTO, changing times indeed.

Enter by lear jet, exit by black and decker.

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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:53:56
DH..It appears that another Ibrox cast off, Graeme Souness,The man in the Iron Moustache,is fave for that gig...Maybe Wattie can pull some strings to get an interview ahead of him as he will,like half his squad be surplice (Spelling mistake intentional)to requirements come January..
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 11:56:24
I remember the days when people would be delighted to get a black and decker for Christmas.


That, or a watch with a calculator in it, and a "she'll be coming round the mountain" alarm
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 11:58:06
One thing we haven't considered is the fact that "Walter", suffering from "turkey at Xmas" syndrome, makes the self preservative step of jumping ship.

Never thought of that,he has previous for jumping ship??

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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 11:58:21
I once got the "Poor Man's Meccano"..A box of wooden clothes pegs.They must have been toys as we dodnt have any clothes to hang...Halcyon days!
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 11:59:35
#42

Reminds me of the joke where a wee Japanese guy gets a job at Tesco.

When he asks what he's doing he's told he's in the supplies department.


So off he goes and starts jumping out in front of customers
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 12:03:41
Gotta go ...Be back to bathe in the very christmassy atmosphere in the afternoon..Have fun,Y'all
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 12:06:39
I remember once being bought a Hearts strip for Xmas....no reason why that I recall other than my Uncle never like me.

It was one of the acrylic nipple bleeders.

Wore it once.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

16/12/2008 12:08:43
Those must be some heavy duty pharmaceuticals that you're messing with these days, Hugh baby.

Christmas is coming, and cold turkey beckons. If you can't straighten out for yourself, do it for your loved ones.
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 12:09:35
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A wee flaw in your logic Shug.

Hearts are selling Kingston.

Hard to imagine what they'll do without him
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 12:12:15
#49

The only thing worse were the acrylic pajamas that your grandparents would get you.

I was the only kid around that looked forward to getting up in the morning
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 12:13:43
#49

I imagine Magnum has a yarn about young ladies in similar autoerotic garments. Perhaps mixed with Swordies clothes pegs for that extra Christmas ouch!

We await a Christmas yarn Mag.
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 12:41:42
I once watched a programme by Arthur C Clarke on spontaneous human combustion.

It closed with no real reason why it occured.

However, when you look properly at the photos of the poor victims, you could see everyone was wearing acrylic pyjamas at the time.

I reckon the static triggered the fires.

Arthur C Clarke 0 The Riot Survivor 1

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16/12/2008 12:59:58
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 13:00:39
Celtic dressing room after the 1-1 draw with Hearts.

WGS, McGeady you were shoite out on that park today!

McGeady, you played me you midget!


WGS, When are you going to listen to me I'm the manager

McGeady, I only do what my mama and daddy tell me, you midget!


WGS, I am the boss of this club and have won the league 3 times on the trot.

McGeady, And without me you would have won nothing, you midget!


WGS, If you don't do as I instruct you to do, you will be gone from Celtic.

McGeady, You will be be gone before me, there are a couple of midget EPL sides looking for a midget manager, take one of those jobs and see ya.


McGeady, and I'm still telling my mamma and daddy you yelled at me.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 13:13:35
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Magnum, to deep for this thread!
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16/12/2008 13:20:24
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 13:32:17
Gers to take the 3 points at Ibrox vs. Hibs this weekend.

Question to the Celtic punters, does WGS play McGeady this week against Falkirk?

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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 13:36:22
Idee

I would think the Celtic support would be congregating around their manager at this time.

Yet to see a post in support of WGS regarding the "reported by unnamed source" dressing room incident.
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16/12/2008 13:39:30
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 13:40:58
67 M.

Not for Bobo!
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16/12/2008 13:51:09
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 14:02:19
When ReaRangers wee nyaff's decided that they'd had enough of a proper coach in Le Guen....that was it, Le Guen was oot on his chorus and verse.


The one coach who may have built ReaRangers up from the foundations in this era of financial scarcity. He could have brought the youngster through with the French ability to pass and move at speed and taken that into the first team...it would have taken a while, but the monster munch revolution killed that opportunity stone deid!

What did you get in his stead? "Walter" the cheque book waver.

Shocking way to run a club....players mutiny deciding who picks and managers the team.

The SFA have their faults, but well done them for not giving in to the same player disrepect at International level.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:07:45
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You haven't read his book then?
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 14:08:01
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Don't forget the Loyalty bonus to come. Any news on a testimonial? Celtic could play agianst a "Bobo'd" XI. Players he has crocked through the years from the SPL, friendlies with Leicester, Yoofa finals etc. Kinda like gladiators but with a bit more gore.
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 14:11:07
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No....and I'm keeping my Waterstones gift token from Santa for James' fictional wartime epic.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:14:39
Afternoon ladies....

I see the usual suspects are dribbling into overdrive about.....well nothing really!

When you consider that Wattie....publicly stated 2 days ago he needed to cut his squad down from 28....to 18....it passes without mention!

Aiden has a supposed disagreemnet with Gordon.....and suddenly armageddon is upon us..

The chum must be gettin pumped into the laptop loyalists at a colossal rate!
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:17:20
Margaret.....any news yet on who the Ibrox 10 are?
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Helter Skelter,

16/12/2008 14:17:44
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Best post of the day idee.

I mean, it's something that the cup cakes are loathed to acknowledge let alone discuss....the mighty rainjurz are now jointly and severally owned by the nation.

Murray now sits atop a big honkin' public corporation up to its €rse in debt. HBOS bails oot the rearrangerz and the taxpayer bails oot HBOS !

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Pedantic,

Edinburgh City Centre 16/12/2008 14:19:30
75 posts and the last 65 of these have nothing whatsoever to do with the article. There must be a place where all you Alumni types can meet? Maybe the job centre for instance?

McGhee has been shown up for what he is; a below average Manager in charge of a below average team.
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 14:21:43
Looks like the focus for match fixing and irregular gambling is firmly on the green baize. There is no place in sport for cheating.

Does is take my focus off fans with whistles who may be in Falkirk on Sunday? "No Names" specially for DRS!!!

No. Be assured I won't miss the (man in) black.
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Da Riot Survivor,

16/12/2008 14:22:00
PLG wanted to revolutionise the training methods at Ipox away from the "Walter" inspired, "the team that drinks together stays together"

His methods were challenged.

2 of the protaganists in the challenge were Captain Glaicket and Boyd(Penalty). When PLG dropped Glaicket for a game it was the bold Boyd(Penalty) who gave a public show of support for the captain. Holding 6 fingers up (after counting carefully) when scoring the goal.

That was that for PLG. He never got the support from Minty. Despite being touted at one point as a potential successor to, in many peoples eys, one of the best producers of youth players in the world today - Arsene Wenger...and also being taken under the wing of the Arsenal manager.

Straight after, out goes the training regime, and back comes the drinking culture.

When ReaRangers were asked to play several consecutive games last season, just like the rest of the clubs in the latter stages of the European comps, what happens, out trapes "Walters" Mantra ("Its OK tae fail cos yer tired")

Didny take long for us to understand that ReaRangers missed a chance with PLG after that.

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Boyne Bhoy,

16/12/2008 14:25:09
Daillyman, happy to help by backing the manager in any confrontation with a player.

WGS, conqueror of three Gers managers-100% record to date, no reason to believe his records going to deteriorate anytime soon.

Magnum, not sure what financial analysis you are trying to make-Celtic have a highly paid assetn which they can afford but choose not to utilise. They can afford it so not really an issue, of course they would prefer to utilise the funds elsewhere but having a tightly run operation no big deal in the main.

Meantime Rangers have the fuds but need the funds. Others have the funds but no need of the fuds. Shame
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:28:06
pick any 10 from 12.....

Sponge bob (Adam)
Baggette (Bougherra)
Leo sayer (dailly)
Harpo Marx (burke)
The Tattood lady (novo)
Sparky (mcculloch)
Hair line (whittaker)
2 erchies (Darcheville)
Who? (de beasley)
who 2? (Velicka)
sidebaws (ferguson)
the camel (clubfoot)

Roll up...roll up.....the Ibrox fire sale coming your way...
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jerrymanders,

16/12/2008 14:32:08
#67

As it is to Wattie.......
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jerrymanders,

16/12/2008 14:33:05
#67

....and Boydchenko
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 14:37:52
#83

Hmmh. both of them? Usually errant behaviour is attributed to Juan Ghuy in Hoopieland.
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Helter Skelter,

16/12/2008 14:38:26
For me it's a no brainer...if mcgeady can't take criticism from strachan, mcgeady has to go.
As murdo mcleod said, better players than him have been slaughtered by Celtic managers in the past and took it like men.

McGeady seems to have got the idea into his head that it's personal, and if that perception has become deep-rooted, I don't see that there's any way back for him at Celtic. According to reports, he wasn't the only player to get dumped on from a great height by strachan and yet the others were able to keep their traps shut and show more concern about improving their game rather than dwelling over angry words spoken in the heat of the moment....it's not as if the whole team didn't deserve it.
Strchan let them off the hook for a poor show against Caley probably because we won the match.

Again, he spared the rod after easter road....by the hearts game, he clearly felt enough was enough and it was time to start bootin' €rses up and down the changing room...quite bloody right if you ask me, and if mcgeady can't deal with that , he can sling his hook.

But this shouldn't be allowed to rumble on. McGeady needs to apologise , pay his fine, acknowledge that Strachan was within his rights and give assurance that it won't happen again. If they don't come to an understanding by Friday, he should be dropped altogether until either he comes round or until the january window.

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Boyne Bhoy,

16/12/2008 14:40:26
Selleck Man: I think Celtic prefer to buy who they want rather than buying job lots of players hence the reason Glasgow's middle team are about to have a fire sale....
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:40:47
Ok.....suggestions please on what we....the owners of Rangers....should do with it's mis-management and general state of affairs?
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 14:46:07
94 Paul

Happy for you're continued support, you have experience with going to the brink, we don't.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:48:42
92...

To be fair Helter....as the skipper McManus should have had Aiden against a wall...

The same way Neil told him some home truths in the dressing room at Dunfermline....

Dressing room scraps happen every weekend....the media will try and sensationalise it beyond it's worth....

On another point.....did anyone hear Gordon mention the assistant referees name against Hearts after the match?....when it was shown Driver was a yard offside!
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 14:53:16
97

Good point regarding a captains job, and dressing room bust ups do happen all the time.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 14:54:28
95

No problem......but it ain't far off....

Just as happened with Celtic...Rangers won't go down....there will be someone sitting...waiting...until they can buy the club for absolute rock bottom price....
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 14:58:55
Celtic fans should wake up & listen to Charlie Nicholas.

He's been warning them for months and now...

Their club is in turmoil with their "star player" about to be binned.

Dropping 5 points in their last 2 SPL matches & being kicked out of Europe.

Liewell going on about "bluechip players" while dredging the Irish leagues for cheap imitations.

Samaras & McDonald showing their true worth ie a loss of form & their goals have dried up.

Knackamura now on the wind-down before he heads home.

Boruc's value has halved thanks to on & off field aborations.

McGeadys spoiled brat antics will see his value drop drasticaly.

Strachan will now be scrutinised by the fans who have
never liked him much anyway.

Hilariously, the celtic fans dismiss all the above & prefer to concentrate on Glasgow Rangers.

Keep concentrating on the Rangers boys, while your own club burns, Rangers will dissapear over the horizon
& lift the treble in 2009.

Charlie would agree.




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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 15:03:16
I expect WGS to play McGeady in the next couple of matches, more so because of the injury problems that the tic have on the left side of the park, had WGS a fully fit squad I just wonder if he would have dropped McGeady.

Transfer fee for McGeady in January 6-8mil?

McGeady to Birmingham for McFadden and 2mil to the tic?

Thoughts on a fee lads.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 15:10:00
101

Gordon is stubborn and determined enough that what he says goes.....so yes he would have dropped him and rightly so....

In the same way Wattie had Boyd sittin pickin splinters oot his erchie every week.....when every body knows Rangers where struggling to score goals....

A manager is only concerned about winning games.....

A player is only concerned about himself....
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 15:12:08
Rangers to beat Hibs 3-0 and silence the critics once and for all
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 15:14:19
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Hhahahahahahhahahahah.....oh jessssus....a post from a Rangers fan that chunders on about Celtic and declares Charlie Nicholas as his hero!

Any news yet on the Ibrox 10 yet?
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Helter Skelter,

16/12/2008 15:17:13
I wouldn't be averse to mcfadden + £2m for mcgeady.

I would prefer mcgeady to stay, but if the situation is beyond repair, then that solution sounds like a decent bit of biz to me.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 15:18:08
100

Maybe you would care to champion the comments of the ex-Rangers director Hugh Adam?
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 15:31:45
#107
It would be harsh to describe Mr Adam is a slightly disgruntled ex-employee but he did a fine job for a fine football club.

What a wonderful day, not only has McGeady burned his bridges with CFC but the following gem has been announced...

Fifa is set to back plans for a Great Britain football team to play at the 2012 Olympics.

It gets better & better.
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Helter Skelter,

16/12/2008 15:45:40
108

What's so great about that ?
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Helter Skelter,

16/12/2008 15:57:00
BTW

Anyone see sportscene last night...there was more than a whiff of laptoployalism about the editing of the rearrangerz highlights.

Towards the end of the match with the score stood at 2V2, the rearrangerz were awarded a free kick on the edge of the box.

It was a SCANDALOUS decision. It gave the rearrangerz the chance to steal all three points although in the end fatboy thundered it against the defensive wall.

I had wondered whether the studio-duo would pour over the incident in mind boggling detail the way they have done throughout the season with any remotely contraversial decision involving Celtic.

Alternatively , I wondered whether they would just gloss over it which is more typical of the meeja's reaction when rearrangerz are concerned.

What I didn't expect was that they would cut out the tackle that led to the award of the free kick altogether.

It was done very clumsily as well....one second the ball is somewhere near the half way line, the next , fat boy is lining up to take a free kick from the edge of the box.

The laptoployalists are relentless and have no shame.
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 16:07:05
#110 Helter

Fiddling while Rome Burns....

To occupy oneself with unimportant matters and neglect priorities during a crisis.

That sums up you & the other Celtic minded posters nicely.

We welcome the chase.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 16:13:40
Your maj..Fiddling....

Cooking the books,engaging in underhand and possibly illegal financial dealings..Sound familiar?

You will be chased.... by the fraud squad.
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 16:22:52
#97
when it was shown Driver was a yard offside!

Hope santa brings you a new telly from Bright House. Clearly the one you have now is goosed.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 16:26:10
111

"during a crisis"

What crisis is that then?

Gordon putting Aiden in his place?

Now if you really want to talk about a crises....which seems to have escaped the very Rangers friendly media....

The city of London police....
demonstrations outside Ibrox....
mounting debts...
Banners at the games asking murray to go...
witholding debt levels and trading figures...
grandoise plans promised....still waiting...
another £18m borrowed in summer....still 4 points behind...
kicked oot of Europe...
Squad to be slashed....to the bare bones...

Crises what crisis.......I think we can live with Gordon puttin Aiden in his place...
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 16:29:29
#112

Phew Swordie, I'm relieved its not Liewell & CFC you've aimed your innuendo's at.

A knock on the door, severe reprimand or threats of legal action would undoubtedly follow.

Sir David on the other hand, simply shrugs his broad shoulders & shakes his head.

The only fraud at Ibrox is the fraud square sausage in the canteen my friend.

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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 16:30:34
113

Offside and Gordon didn't bother to lower himself to Wattie's disgusting levels....

Never mind....we just shrug our shoulders and get on with it....

Rangers fans would have been greetin all week...
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 16:31:26
#115

There will be a few frauds there on the 27th, decked out in green and white and masquerading as footballers.

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Royalist,

16/12/2008 16:33:03
#114 PM

I refer you to post #111

Fiddling while Rome Burns....

We welcome the chase.

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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 16:35:25
It is now the 230th of May....

We are still waiting for Mr. Minty Magoriums Magicland Emporium....
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 16:37:33
#117 DH

Notice how Celtic always look for someone to blame for a defeat or draw?

If they cant find a referee, linesman etc they simply turn on themselves.

Now its McGeady's turn & the lad has the temerity to answer back!

Well done McGeady for exposing the real celtic mentality.



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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 16:38:52
....News just in....In another attempt to stave of his creditors,Rangers supremo Sid Murray, has come up with another money making (he hopes!) scheme.

Sid has come up with a boardgame for the Xmas market that will be this year's "Must Have" present for Bears young and old..

The game,entitled "Clueless" concerns the dealings of a formerly cash rich institution that is all but bankrupt.The Chairman,who is blamed for the cause of this ailing business' fortunes is murdered in "The Blue Room" with a yet to be determined assailant and weapon.

The cast of suspects and their motives include..

Colonel Mustard (ORANGE)..A brilliant trial lawyer who after a major indiscretion was banished from the club.

Miss Scarlett (RED)..A former player who's red, cheeky face masks a murderous desire to take the top job.

Professor Plum (PURPLE)..The present manager who,in the absence of major funding has been foud wanting in the managerial stakes and is about to be reacquainted with his P45.

Mrs Peacock (BLUE)..This venus fly-trap has the backing of the disgruntled fans and is head of a powerful mafia stlye gang called the RST.

The Reverend Green (BLACK AND WHITE)..A former devotee of the club since turned to the ministry who hates the fact that he has to lie and cheat weekly to keep the club in the game.

Mrs White(SUNNY D ORANGE)The perma tanned assasin...He'll stop at nothing to earn enough cash to feed his sunbed habit at TANFASTIC salon.

Murder Weapons

Revolver
Dagger
Lead Piping
Rope
Spanner
Candlestick

Mr Waddinton is 68
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Paulmac2,

Surrey 16/12/2008 16:39:41
118

Got to give it to you....we thought you might have got fed up chasing....

Still you've had a fair bit of practice over the last 8 years..

Keep up the chase!
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 16:40:40
120

Ehhhh.....Mr Murphy....anyone?
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 16:43:57
#121
LOL

Not sure about the Rev Green though!


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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 16:44:00
I reckon Plum with the lead pipe in the blue room.....

Or could it be a twist in the game?
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 16:46:55
With Wattie announcing he has to reduce his squad to 18....do you think he is including McCarpark in his squad?
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 16:49:03
Real breaking news...Aiden suspended for two weeks and fined two weeks wages..
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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 16:50:17
WGS- the only manager is the SPL that thinks a Hornby train set is life size.


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I can see for miles,

16/12/2008 16:52:09
Swordsman

Here's hoping he suspends a few more.



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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 16:54:46
#127

nah.... we were told on here the bust up was a fabrication by the laptop loyal in advance of the 27th, designed to upset the away side.


Yer blethering man.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 16:56:14
Setanta news carrying the tale..Probably a "cunning Plan" to lull the gullible gers into a false sense of security for a week on sat...hee hee
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 17:07:27
#131

Breaking News. Upon hearing of Aiden McGeady's suspension Rangers right back and Scotland joint top scorer Kirkie Broadfoot has returned to Murray Park after training today. Seen carrying two pairs of shorts into the state of the art training facility he spoke briefly to reporters: " I'm just here to get the back pocket taken oot ma shorts for the 27th. I'll no need a wee pocket now since both Maloney and McGeady are oot"
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Paulmac2,

surrey 16/12/2008 17:09:07
132

As you are a new owner of Rangers...what measures do you intend to implement to avoid this type of frivolous waste of money!
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darkhorse.,

16/12/2008 17:19:07
The fear of a a postponement on the 27th is growing more tangible for the light blue legions.

maloney - injured

Robson - probably injured

Jim Vinegar - still injured

Fadin' - suspended (by his club bwahahha bwahaa)

MacDonald - 6 months pregnant and showing

Borat - a complete flake. DT's/night terrors of squigglers coming from his wardrobe (the empty side where his wifes clothes used to be!!)

The Mole - likely to be suspended too, once Big Blue Chip is finished with the thumb screws.

In summary 7 first team players on the brink.

Keep a close eye on the hatches, matches and dispatches for a CFC connection.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

16/12/2008 17:22:34
Just had to go back and watch the Driver goal yet again after Paulmac's claim that it was "a yard offside".

Guess what? It still looks the same as it did on the previous occasions that I've watched it - Driver onside at the moment that the ball was released, and a perfectly good goal.

Thought Hearts were excellent on Saturday, much like Hibs the previous weekend. They've shown that if you have a decent team and a bit of belief, Celtic are there for the taking.

Lot of life in the SPL race yet.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 17:28:49
Wing Commander...I heard a similar tale in the seventies..."The man at the back said "Everyone attack" and it turned into a ballroom blitz..Or as we now call it in a new century..The Rangers Xmas/End of season party...
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 17:30:44
138 Idee

As a shareholder we thank you.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 17:42:12
I wonder if McGeady's agent has been informed about his clients 2 week holiday.

I guess the article by the former captain and manager of Celtic had validity after all.
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

16/12/2008 17:49:26
As one who's only other stock holding is in a small red box in my kitchen cupboard,I'm only too happy to do my bit and come to Sid's aid in this time of financial uncertainty.

As a new shareholder in RFC,I will,of course be "flexing my new found power and will be drafting a series of terms and conditions that will have to be met by the present incumbents and their customers if I am to invest more than my £1.27p in the next fiscal...

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Finnharp,

Canada 16/12/2008 18:02:35
#142 Daillyman: Did you receive my seasons greetings in lastnights post, listening to super scoreboard now should be good. I don't think the fans will welcome the Celtic decision on McGeady, there will be a hugh backlash.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 18:07:57
144

Replied on the same thread.

146 dv

Agree there can be only one boss.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:10:33
#146, You have the right to your point, but this is not the time of the season to suspend one of our best players, manager must think club first, WGS should be a great manager and shrug it off, he is a wee sh8te and its all about him.

Celtic must come first.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:11:46
This will end up Bazza v PLG and we know how that ended, club lost.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:23:10
150 OK
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:30:52
152 OK
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:33:36
Wonder when sir GS will be away to the EPL, either Sunderland or Blackburn, he like to blame McGeady for all the wrongs of the squad.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:35:04
154, the new signings don't really matter GS will be gone before they get to play, look at Mizuno
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:40:39
Enjoyed the 5 years of Martin O more.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 18:56:17
158, yes OK whatever you need. Nobody else to fight with today.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 18:59:28
The Scotsman online poll, support WGS or McGeady, is runing 2/1 in WGS's favour.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 19:00:29
yep thats right see ya muppet.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 19:03:57
Daillyman, it will be curious to see where this one goes, last season same thing at Rangers resulting with PLG going, wonder if the same will happen here, can they get over it or will it result in one leaving, timing (being a Celtic fan) no the best with a couple of tough games coming up, and the fact that the injury list is never ending, will public support go with player or manager.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 19:04:49
164: ha ha ha, easy just keep biting.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

16/12/2008 19:13:05
As a Rangers fan, I'm always intrigued by the pro-Strachan/anti-Strachan arguments.

Personally, I've never noticed much difference between MON's Celtic and WGS's version. The changeover was pretty seamless with regard to the level of the team and what it achieved. All eight seasons, five under MON and three under WGS, have shown a remarkably similar consistency in the week-in/week-out business of the SPL. You could say that WGS had to rebuild much of the team and didn't quite have MON's budget to do it with, and for that he deserves credit. However, MON came in at a time when Advocaat was printing his own money and RFC had just won the league by a record margin, and he turned things around quickly and spectacularly.

The CL thing, I think, is a little bit of a red herring. WGS's two last 16 achievements were earned on the back of 3 home wins and 3 away defeats, and MON also achieved that one season, but was unlucky in the respect that circumstances dictated that on that occasion, it still wasn't enough. MON also took Celtic on a memorable UEFA ride that led to Seville, which shouldn't be underestimated.

All in all, if RFC (perish the thought) were in the market for a new manager next season, and it came down to O'Neill or Strachan, I would personally, purely on which man was, in my opinion, more likely to bring success, I would choose MON.

But Strachan has done a good job.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 19:19:08
165

I think McGeady will go, but as I have been wrong in the past something might change and it would have to be the player.

As for BF and PLG, the manager at that time signed some terrible players for RFC, the big Swede at centre half, Sionko did nothing to justify his wages, the french keeper that was signed, and the player he chased the longest Sebo, all were pash. Yet PLG seemed to single out only the Scots players in the press for poor form, social habits etc. I think BF became frustrated and I can't remember who spoke to the press first BF or PLG regarding their point of view,, saying that no player should be bigger than the club.

As for PLG's record this season with PSG, had WS or WGS been able to bring in the 3 or 4 players that PLG did for this coming season we might still be in Europe.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

16/12/2008 19:26:13
dv

That's the point with regard to the CL. Rangers have NEVER earned 9 points from the Group stage (although they would have earned 10 points in 1992/93 if it had been 3 points for a win)

McLeish took us through to the Last 16 with 7 points a few years ago. Smith got that same total last season but it wasn't enough on that occasion. I don't think that makes McLeish better, just that circumstances with regard to where the other points went in the section favoured McLeish but not Smith.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 19:27:46
171

It's a results driven business and at the time of PLG going I think we were third in the league.

If Celtic were in 3rd position in the league today and this AM vs WGS debate was going on who do you think would be out?
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 19:29:22
168, before I need to go, I don't have any agenda against GS or any other Celtic manager, but you made an accusation that was total cr*p, I just said I preferred the MON years, to this your response was I have an agenda not true at all. This story will continue for the next 11 days, then we will see who stays and who leaves, I would rather they both stay, but they have just performed a sanction that cannot be overturned.
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Finnharp,

16/12/2008 19:33:09
Boys got to go pick up my ma at Wal-Mart, keep the debate going, don't get it closed talk to you all later, even you dvincent.

Hail Hail
4IaR
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 19:34:53
275 dv

Respect for a manager from players is earned, and yes I know its a two way street. I just think PLG did not realise how big the OF rivalry was, and how much pressure can with one of those jobs.
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Daillyman,

16/12/2008 19:36:10
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175 dv
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Royalist,

16/12/2008 20:26:51
#136 Dark horse, re 27th Dec Ibrox Park

"Keep a close eye on the hatches, matches and dispatches for a CFC connection"

Dark humour indeed, but discount it at you peril.
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jerrymanders,

16/12/2008 21:31:30
#179

Or how much power Captain Monstermunch weilded in the changing room.
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Libertarian!,

16/12/2008 22:08:39
Having just had a nice glass of boiling water and honey topped off with 'Whuskie' I thought I would have a gander at the fitba'comments to pass a couple of minutes.
I'm not really a fitba' enthusiast but couldn't believe
Scotia had so many really good comics after reading some off the humerous comments made here.
What never surprised me though was the bugbear of bigotry that has blighted our country for some centuries stil being displayed. Why don't these bigots start to live in the 21st century and devote their obvious talents in making their nation a nation once again?

 

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