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You should have put Cowell in a kilt to get profile, says Clifford



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Published Date: 05 April 2008
BRITAIN'S leading publicist, Max Clifford, has accused the Scottish Government of thinking too small and being too conventional with Scotland Week.
Mr Clifford has said there appeared to be nobody in the Scottish Government capable of thinking up something to get the country the attention of millions of Americans.

He questioned why they had not thought about putting Simon Cowell in a kilt for the American Idol show today.

He added that 100 speeches by Alex Salmond, the First Minister, would not make up for that.

"That was just one idea off the top of my head," said Mr Clifford. "Simon Cowell is Britain's biggest star in America on America's biggest show by far, beamed to at least 25 million there and even more around the globe.

"If Simon had worn a kilt, something he has never done before, then he would been asked why and could explain that it was to mark Scotland week.

"Immediately it would have hit all the front pages, millions of Americans would have been thinking about Scotland and you would have had millions pounds of publicity in a minute.

"The trouble is that the people who organise these things are conventional and think too small."

The newly rebranded Scotland Week has though been hailed as a success by the Scottish Government. It dropped some of the glitz from its old incarnation as Tartan Week and had a far more serious approach, led by the First Minister.

Mr Clifford's comments seem to be backed up with the apparent difficulty of finding Scotland Week stories on US media websites.

However, an official Scottish Government spokesman pointed out that Mr Salmond has had interviews in significant newspapers, including the New York Times, appeared on many business channels, and his three keynote speeches have been so popular people have had to be turned away. They are planning booking bigger auditoriums next year.

Added to that, they have attracted the attention of some of America's foremost political glitterati, including its leading lady Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House of Representatives.

The Scottish Government spokesman said: "We are well satisfied with the media coverage we have received; it is never easy."

The parade in the Big Apple will feature 2,000 pipers and drummers; no Sean Connery this year, but it does figure the Scottish American footballer Lawrence Tynes, of the newly crowned Super Bowl champions, the New York Giants.

Writing for The Scotsman in the News Review today, the First Minister is proud of his achievements – in particular, the impact of the £10 million Saltire Prize, which he launched with National Geographic this week for inventors to come up with ways of harnessing clean, renewable energy, such as wave power.

"We are a nation with the ambition to be one of the success stories of this 21st century. We are a small country that is thinking big," he wrote. "Scotland has already been blessed with black gold – our North Sea oil resource – and we now have a second windfall, the green gold of our vast offshore renewable power.

"The ideas generated by the Saltire Prize will be demonstrated in Scotland, making our country the place to be for this particularly important renewable technology."

However, one journalist who has attended several Tartan weeks said this year's "had the impact of a wet weekend in Wick".

In The Scotsman news review today American business and media analyst Dan Gainor also raise doubts about this year's "subtle approach".

TARTAN WEEK VETERAN BACKS INDEPENDENCE VOTE

THE veteran American politician who helped to dream up Tartan Week has backed Alex Salmond's calls for a referendum on independence.

Former Mississippi senator Trent Lott has said the people of Scotland should be given the chance to decide their own future.

He did not back independence, but said a referendum might help Scotland to get a better deal out of Union.

Mr Lott said: "(A referendum] is the democratic way to do things. You need to make sure your leaders have considered all the ramifications carefully.

"As Lincoln would say, you should trust the people when they have been informed properly on an issue."

A source close to the First Minister said the SNP was delighted to receive Mr Lott's backing.

The main UK parties oppose a referendum and have set up a review of the Scottish Parliament's powers as a rival to the SNP's National Conversation.


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  • Last Updated: 04 April 2008 11:10 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Tartan Week
 
1

Senga Jean,

Scotland 05/04/2008 00:20:26
So long as Salmond keeps promoting Scotland in this way I will live with his cheeky grin. The National Geographic deal is priceless in promoting Scotland's involvement in new technology.
2

Stepford Nat..,

05/04/2008 00:23:23
2 Encarta

Unfair, and are you a bit of a snob, with your remark about trailer homes?

Headlines are good, whatever about the substance behind them. Remember this is the greatest living scot who ever drew breadth. And I bet he's not having a great time at our expense.

Convert www.snp.org
3

GM,

05/04/2008 00:24:17
and now the Scotsman relies on Max Clifford for negative opinion on the SNP and Salmond?

and I thought my 'Alex ate my Hamster' spoof was exactly that -
I'll give it 1 year before this rag prints it for real.
4

Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 05/04/2008 00:32:40
Barrell


Bottom


Scraping
5

Anne O'Gram,

05/04/2008 00:33:40
Try this (Scottish Nationalist Party)

transatlant!c sh!t y!ps too
6

Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 05/04/2008 00:33:47
Barrell


Bottom


Scraping
7

Anne O'Gram,

05/04/2008 00:40:29
or this (Alex ate my hamster)

Aye, Max Smelt Earth
8

Anne O'Gram,

05/04/2008 00:45:05
(Wendy Alexander)

We Annexed Lardy
9

Anne O'Gram,

05/04/2008 00:47:11
7 Dougie Douglas

Aged Odious Lug
10

Abel Magwitch,

05/04/2008 00:53:58
My American friends have the greatest difficulty pronouncing place names like Stranraer, Kircudbright and Lesmahagow...and personal names like Farquhar and Colquhoun, and understanding the psychology of Scottish football supporters and Scottish politics. There is a best selling book waiting to be written entitled "A tour of Scotland without ever having to cross the Atlantic".
11

Stepford Nat..,

05/04/2008 01:01:20
11 Encarta

Ooops, sorry, I got your name right, but I didn't have your number.

Your first paragraph refers to catering solutions, but it's more than that. Ringtones, diet aids, flags, to name but a few.

As regards the greatest - Alex,of course (I'm surprised you asked)
12

The Strategist,

05/04/2008 01:19:47
I'm truly horrified that anyone at the Scotsman would have such appallingly bad taste as to ask Mr Clifford anything about anything.
13

Stepford Nat..,

05/04/2008 01:25:10
14 Encarta

An excellent counter!

www.snp.org (go on..)
14

Anne O'Gram,

05/04/2008 01:31:13
15 The Strategist

Test great sh!t

(nothing personal, I can't sleep)
15

Colkitto,

River Clyde 05/04/2008 02:41:26
Clifford himself is a has been. Let's demean the whole thing with Cowal in a kilt.
This is about the cultural being of Scotland in the international arena not the X factor !!
16

Castaway,

05/04/2008 03:43:32
Simon Cowell in a kilt during Scotland Week this isn't the pantomime season it is about Scottish culture, by quoting Max Clifford it will bring Max to the attention of the readers who can look for themselves to find out who is Max Clifford.
17

Bob10,

05/04/2008 03:55:54
Salmond in a kilt and demonstrating Highland Dancing, - now there's a thought to conjure with!!
18

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 05/04/2008 04:12:26
Why would you want to associate Scotland Week with somebody as generally disliked by most American's as Simon Cowell? What message are you trying to send?

Come to Scotland, were all complete pratts like Simon Cowell!

Here is a suggestion for next years Scotland Week that would really get some attention and reflect positivly on Scotland without costing a lot of money. How about an International Friendly Match between Scotland and America. I can think of nothing that would get Americans attention more than seeing 10,000 kilted members of the Tartan Army on the streets of New York.
19

Sierra Foothills Scot,

Diamond Springs 05/04/2008 04:46:45
Who is Max Clifford and why does the Scotsman give such a self-important fool so much credence? Is he perchance the person who talked Jack McConnell into making such a fool of himself and all his countrymen by wearing that silly "kilt" outfit for Tartan Day. KampungHighlander's comment (#23) is absolutely correct.

Alex Salmond has been doing a wonderful job for Scotland in the United States, but the Scottish press has been downplaying the value of most of it. I challenge the Scotsman's editors to print Alex's inspiring and important speech on Tuesday at the University of Virginia. It is readily available at http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/This-Week/Speeches/First-Minister/Virginia.
20

Bob10,

05/04/2008 05:05:54
We're all doomed, doomed I tell ye. Doomed, Doomed.
21

Yankee girl,

USA 05/04/2008 05:40:34
23 KampungHighlander,Jakarta 05/04/2008 04:12:26
Why would you want to associate Scotland Week with somebody as generally disliked by most American's as Simon Cowell? What message are you trying to send.

I certainly agree. I can't think of anything that would make me shudder more than Simon Cowell in a kilt! Really, what are they thinking?

22

donald,

glasgow 05/04/2008 07:31:03
Cowell objected to the MacDonald Bros wearing kilts.
23

Mik Wilso,

edinbvrgh 05/04/2008 07:38:01
who asked Cowell if he will do it - so there is no story.
24

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 07:53:38
For feck's sake, surely Eck wasn't daft enough to let the Septics know we had oil. Expect a wee visit of 'liberation' any time soon. Seriously, it doesn't matter how much time and money you spend trying to broaden the horizons of your average American. I've been there a good few times and do like them, but most of them struggle to know where Canada is, let alone a tiny wee country of 5 million. And trying to explain the national and constitutional makeup of the UK usually makes for hours of fun.
25

La La,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 08:01:14
Simon Cowell in a kilt - I'm drooling already........please let this happen ;-) Seriously he did say he was partly Scottish on the X-Factor so maybe he would be someone to use to promote the Scots in the US.
26

Shug the Dug,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 08:18:10
Congratulations. I was livid to find the "North British-man" (surely the correct name best indicating your political sympathies than the Scotsman) but on reading through the comments I found sound sense and sensibility to be in the majority and the cringers and apologists feeble in their attempted sneers.
P.S. To understand the significance of the term "North British" or "North Britain" will involve reading up on your history instead of engaging in facile sarcasm.
27

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 05/04/2008 08:19:09
Max C has a sort of point, which is mainly that SNP's portrayal of Scotland is pathetic. It's almost as bad as the quality of argument (and spelling and grammar) of most SNP supporters on these boards.

SNP could learn much from the Irish success.

On top of that it has all those Scots inventors to impress the world: telephone, tv, economics, John Muir, whisky, tartan, kilts, bagpipes, Brigadoon, 007, the US Constitution, submarine turbines (well, once SNP actually funds the R&D for same), etc. Quite a good show, really. So why not trump them abroad more?
28

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05/04/2008 08:21:17
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29

Calum Crubag,

05/04/2008 08:34:02
True, the millions of simpletons and airheads who watch American Idol aren't gonna do much for Scotland's economy. Thought on the other hand, do we need it? I'll bet Scotland has a higher profile in the States than most countries of it's size. Especially those who are not fully independent. Ireland does well but having it's own indpendent government helps.
30

Nikostratos,

05/04/2008 08:34:40
Most Americans support their Armed forces even if they do not agree with the Presidents Iraq policy.

And given Mr Salmond well known views towards the Iraq war he is unlikely to be given a warm welcome (unlike tony blair) by the American people. It would be have been more effective if someone else less controversial had been used to carry out this role.
although this has to be seen as a posturing photo opportunity by Mr Salmond aimed at the snp supporters within Scotland......
31

Calum Crubag,

05/04/2008 08:35:51
#32 - Federation, we should learn from Ireland? Aye, indpendence! Funny how 'seperation' is good for them but not for us? Wonder how many other Brit Nats would argue that Ireland should once more be under London rule?
32

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 08:52:18
If I were Salmond I would put as much distance as possible between himself and Trent Lott. Does anyone here on this board know who Trent Lott is? He is one of the most racist men to hold office in the 21th century and hails from the poorist state in the USA, Mississippi. In 1998, Lott caused national outrage and controversy in Congress when as a guest on the Armstrong Williams television show, he equated homosexuality to alcoholism, kleptomania and sex addiction. When Williams, a conservative talk show host, asked Lott whether homosexuality was a sin, Lott replied, "Yes, it is. Under pressure from Senate colleagues, and having lost the support of the White House, Lott resigned as Senate Republican Leader on December 20, 2002 after praising a outspoken racist politician from South Carolina.
33

MoClana,

Stirling 05/04/2008 08:55:49
yip Mr Clifford......better still why didnt we think of dressing up dolly Parton as a Haggis ! then we could have really stereo typed our country to suit your litle ignorant Anglo Saxon brain.

If its all about attention grabbing headlines why dont you put on a kilt and show the whole world your a**e, where much of your thoughts originate.

34

Jock 107,

05/04/2008 08:59:10
37 Beth Boyle

Know a man by his friends
35

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 05/04/2008 09:02:43
The underlying psychology of this seems completely misguided. It seems that people want American investors to come and 'save' Scotland - rather than relying on our own entrepreneurs. I mean Trump comes along and offers to build £500 million of houses - and everyone goes bananas. But Scotland's membership of the United Kingdom delivers £30 BILLION every year - that's £30,000,000,000 of investment in Scotland.
But apparently that's not enough - that won't do the job. We need to go cap in hand to American capitalists - who are not reknowned for being sypathetic towards 'socialist' countries with 'socialised medicine', council housing and socialist politics. Promote Scotland by all means - but don't think that salvation is going to come from abroad - it isn't. There are no free lunches in the globalised new world order.
36

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 09:06:10
Amen Tweedmouth
37

obeone,

05/04/2008 09:08:06
" I'll bet Scotland has a higher profile in the States than most countries of it's size."

Yeah right! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp4iI59BfpQ

Typical British attitude that the world revolves around us, most Americans would struggle to point to the UK on a map, let alone understand the difference between England and Scotland etc. Liverpool will have more recognition just because of the Beatles.
38

Steve,

Bo'ness 05/04/2008 09:12:31
Is Simon Cowell Scottish?
NO HE ISN'T!
So what makes Max think he'd be willing to prance around in a kilt promotiong Scotland? It would have to one with a high waistband.. and big pockets.

Think we can do without these sad interventions from Clifford. Salmond is doing a great job.
39

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 09:16:50
If Scotland wants to look forward thinking it should not have a leader who is a friend of Trend Lotts. Most Americans cringe at the mention of that mans name. Anyone who cares about social issues and progressive thinking shudders at the mention of Lott who just resigned from the senate.
40

Melly,

Dunblane 05/04/2008 09:17:57
So how did Max Clifford even know that Salmond was in America? Did the Scotsman phone him up for a funny line?
41

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 09:22:50
#29 Draco

I agree with your observation about most Americans not knowing where Canada is, however, the ones that matter, although in a minority, are perfectly aware who we are. My colleagues in Houston and San Francisco have been following Salmond's visit. And they are not ex-pats, they are born and bred Americans.
42

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 09:23:24
Alex Salmond is an arrogant, insufferable politician who has a good conceit of himself!

However, nobody can deny that in the past 10 months he and his administration have done more to project Scotland's national profile than any number of ineffectual and lacklustre Unionist politicians, whose predictable tax and spend policies have been totally eclipsed by the Nationalists!
43

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 09:27:32
#33 Media 1

Thank goodness you are not our FM. Your comments about England are truly infantile. Time you grew up a bit. And by the way, you are "the Cringe" personified!
44

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 09:31:16
#35 Niko

"most Americans support their armed forces"

I can only assume that you don't know many Americans. You obviously get your views from watching Crossfire and Fox News.

Put simply, you are talking cr@p.
45

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 09:34:03
Modern Scots should know more about the American South and Slavery and know about its link to old Scottish settlers whose descendants in Dixie are dreaming of an independent Scotland that is akin to Jews looking to Israel and old Jerusalem. For many Scottish Americans living in the former confederate states Scotland stands for authenticity, racial "purity," and social order, for resistance to urbanization and central government. For them Scotland is a nation of romantic outlaws and do-it-yourself spirituality, a place where men are men, women are ladies, and nature is always photogenic. It's not a big stretch to see Scotland morphing into a metaphor for the Old South, the Never-Never Dixie of old times not forgotten, where slavery didn't rip the place apart but just dissipated into benign paternalism, where feminism is unheard of, Christianity is unchallenged, multiculturalism a bad dream. In Braveheart, Mel Gibson plays Sir William Wallace, the thirteenth-century "guardian" of Scotland, a selfmade guy who's nice to women, children, and animals, likes drinking, hates the English king, and is good at guerrilla warfare. Many people of Scottish decent in the American south were and still are members of the Ku Klux Klan. I am a Scottish America and am horrified but this connection and even more horrified by Salmonds infatuation with men like Trent Lott who fall into this category of racists. I am a great fan of modern Scotland I hate to see the influence of racists from the American South sully her name
46

John S,

05/04/2008 09:40:19
#47 - I could say that about Gordon,Wendy,Jack and Tony etc I prefer Alex to any of those I mentioned what about you ?
47

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 09:40:30
Beth, would it not be more productive "talking up" Scotland rather than attempting to equate it with the KKK and Braveheart. You may well be a great fan of Scotland but I struggle to see anything constructive in your comments. Try saying something positive for a change. Incidently, what evidence is their that Salmond has an infatuation with men like Trnt Lott.

I await something better from you but my expectations are low.
48

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 09:41:30
oops there
49

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 05/04/2008 09:43:03
#32

"SNP could learn much from the Irish success."

They have, that is why they pushing for full Independance not the half measures you are so fond of.
50

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 09:55:14
I believe in talking up Scotland very much. Sometimes my family gets tired of hearing about it! I am warning you all now however that Salmond should distance himself from people like Trent Lott. Trent Lott may have come up with the idea of Tartan day which ended up Tartan week but he is not someone to be admired. My Brother ran in the Scotland run, a race that is part of Tartan week in NYC and sent me the photo just today. He marches in the parade with his family almost every year. Some of our friends from Scotland have stayed with us during Tartan week. I am very proud to have Scottish blood and love Scotland almost as I love the country of my birth. I have spent allot of time in Scotland and I can tell you that it is far better than I ever could have imagined it to be. If independence for Scotland is best let it be so. My discomfort with Salmond does not make me a foe of Independence.
51

John S,

05/04/2008 09:59:32
#48 - I agree but no matter who is our FM we would still get the same comments from that same person and I couldn't understand what he was waffling on about.
52

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 05/04/2008 09:59:48
#54.
You make one of my points: SNP supporters can't even spell the one thing they yearn for-independence.
53

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 05/04/2008 10:01:17
#50

You are a sad little case, are you trying to blame Scotland for slavery? The fact that America needed a civil war to finally outlaw slavery 60 years after it was outlawed in the British Empire and 94 years after it was ruled illegal in Scotland speaks to the utter ignorance of your arguments.
54

jdships,

05/04/2008 10:05:13
12 Abel Magwitch,
Just as Scot's have the same problems when visiting America !!
Get real and try it for yourself

13 Stepford Nat..,

"As regards the greatest - Alex,of course (I'm surprised you asked)"

You are having a "laff" - yes ?
April Fool's Day was on Tuesday 1st April

55

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 10:05:38
#55 Beth

Still the same old negativity.

There is a world of difference in shallow utterings such as "I love Scotland" and giving the reasons for those feeling.

You know Beth, I would love to hear the things that apparently bore your family. Right now you are a terrible ambassador for Scotland.
56

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 10:07:42
#58 Oh no not at all, you are so wrong KampungHighlander!!! What I am saying is the decendants of Slave owners here use Scotland to support their ugly mind set. I do not believe that at all. Many of the people with this mindset are Scotch-Irish or Ulster Scots by family history! Why I mentioned this is that Trent Lott Salmod's admirer is one of the sons of the American South with Scottish heritage than could damage Scotland image in the world. These are the people who twist religion into a political tool as well.
57

The Canadian,

05/04/2008 10:07:51
43
Surely it makes no difference whether Simon Cowell is Scottish or not and wears the Kilt. As the natives in Scotland are now it seems so Anglo-Saxon in attitude etc., and it will make not a hap worth of difference as long as they are rolling in the coins.

Whatever happened to the culture of Fionn and
Cu-chullainn and the Oran Mor and Puirte-beul and the Culture of our ancestors which stretches back for at least 1000 years.

Nothing of this it seems counts for anything in Scotland. Thankfully we have Cape Breton to keep Scottish Culture alive.
58

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 10:08:02
#57 Rules

When did this become a spelling competition? I trust that any typos you make from now on will make you truly mortified and will open you to criticism.
59

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 10:09:59
I am sorry you feel that way connaughtboy #6. Perhaps you should look at my videos on YouTube and seach under Gimmer3 and you will understand just where I am coming from.
60

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 10:14:20
#63 that should read above. Time for bed here I have been bottle feeding Scottish Blackface lambs all night and getting way too tired.
61

shivago8,

livingston 05/04/2008 10:14:27
Cowel is the most hated man in the universe and putting him in a kilt would destroy any hope in Scotland gaining indeprndence
62

McX,

05/04/2008 10:17:35
Ahem, Simon McWho?


YouGov poll was conducted from 2-4 April, sample 1,070

* Scottish Parliament constituency vote (change since 2007 in brackets)
SNP: 40% (+7)
Lab: 32% (-)
Con: 12% (-5)
Lib: 13% (-3)
Oth: 4%

* Scottish Parliament list vote (change since 2007 in brackets)
SNP: 33% (+2)
Lab: 30% (+1)
Con: 13% (-1)
Lib: 12% (+1)
Oth: 13%

* Holyrood seats projection:
SNP: 49 (+2)
Lab: 44 (-2)
Con: 15 (-2)
Lib: 15 (-1)
Oth: 6 (+3)

* Westminster General Election (change since 2005 in brackets)
SNP: 31% (+13)
Lab: 35% (-5)
Con: 17% (+1)
Lib: 12% (-11)
Oth: 4%

* Support for a referendum on Scottish independence:
Immediate referendum: 11%
Within the next year: 28%
In 2010: 26%
Should not be referendum: 21%
None of these: 4%
Don’t know: 11%

65% SUPPORT A REFERENDUM WITHIN THE LIFETIME OF THIS PARLIAMENT

* Support or oppose country becoming a country independent of the rest of
the UK
Support: 34%
Oppose: 50%
DK: 15%

[The Sunday Times/mruk CELLO poll interviewed 1,028 adults across Scotland
between 29 February and 9 March and put support for independence at 23% -
although two-third said they would be prepared to support it in certain
circumstances.]

* The SNP have been in power 11 months. Do achievements make you more or
less likely to vote for independence:
Much more likely: 17%
A little more: 15%
No difference: 35%
A little less: 8%
Much less: 19%
Don’t know: 7%
63

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 10:19:28
I think all of this Unionist angst derives from their frustration and sheer anger that Alex Salmond and his SNP Government is achieving so much for Scotland. Apart from Salmond et al being so much better than the previous Executive, the SNP have an advantage that the Unionist parties will never be able to counter. That advantage is the ability to make decisions in Holyrood without having to get permission from their masters in Westminster.

We have the strangest situation now where Scots in Westminster and Holyrood are actively planning to put economic pressure on their fellow Scots simply to put pressure on the SNP Government.

Wendy, Nicol and Annabel don't really care about "vulnerable two year olds". Wendy in particular only cares about regaining power, something she will never achieve. Meanwhile watch the soap opera and remember the deliberate damage she, Gordon Brown, Des Browne, Andy Kerr etc will inflict on Scotland for their own selfish ambitions.
64

McX,

05/04/2008 10:19:53
So that's 65% in favour of a referendum in the next three years,

Max McWho?
65

Alfred E. Neuman,

05/04/2008 10:29:00
Oooo! Is that a gay Englishman in a skirt? I really must invest $350 million in Scotland...
66

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 10:30:05
What is the purpose of Tartan Week or Scotland Week? Is it to promote Scotland in the US or is it a celebration for Americans, proud of their Scottish ancestry? If it is the latter, then Salmond will have a problem if he wants to use the events as a brash public relations exercise. Scots Americans presumably still carry many of the traits of their forebears and of the Scots themselves, at least until fairly recently: modesty, an aversion to self-promotion, droll understatement. Hardly the best characteristics for some sort of St. Paddy's Day- like carnival. Besides, Scots Americans don't need to stress their importance in the development of the U.S. Like the original Americans of English decent,they're built into the Establishment there and no doubt remain quietly confident that they will retain their long-established positions of pre-eminence.
67

KampungHighlander,

Jakata 05/04/2008 10:31:41
#57

Union supporters can't even say the one thing they yearn for-dependence.
68

MtnKat,

05/04/2008 10:33:04
Beth
I'm afraid I have to jump into the fray on this too.
I spent a considerable amount of time in your "Deep South" and found no such attitudes. If I remember rightly, the majority of Scots were far too poor to be slave owners.

As regards the Trent Lott connection, I see no evidence from this article that Salmond has ever met, much less become infatuated with, the man.

It appears that he was contacted for a comment for no other reason that having been involved with Senate Resolution 155 in 1998 (Google is a wonderful thing!). While I agree that is unfortunate that of all of those who worked on that resolution he was the one chosen to comment, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
69

pehman,

sussex 05/04/2008 10:36:18
Alex is in the US promoting Scottish quality, and it's the quality end of the market Scotland and Salmond are chasing, quantity does not come into it.
70

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 05/04/2008 10:36:44
#72.

I can't speak for Unionists, only Federalists. You want a divorce, I want the marriage to work out. I can spell, you can't.
71

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 10:38:35
#64 Beth.

I am commenting purely on what you post on this thread Beth. I look forward to watching your videos.
72

Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 10:41:06
I have been solicited by white supremacists at the Grandfather Mountain Highland Games in Georgia and know what I am talking about and I know individual heads of clan societies who have been alarmed when white supremacists have tried to get their mailing lists from their booths at Grandfather Mountain. -Nuff said MrnKat #57
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Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 10:41:44
Thanks Connaughtboy.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 10:45:21
#75 Ruled

I very much doubt that you understand the difference between a Unionist and a Federalist.
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Union is Best,

05/04/2008 10:48:18
#67. McX

Clever, but we Unionists did not get where were are today by caving in just because you say 65% of people back a referednum!
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Jwil,

05/04/2008 10:48:20
One of the benifits of independence is leaving the likes of Max Clifford behind.
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Richardinho,

05/04/2008 10:49:38
Britain's 'greatest publicist' big idea for promoting Scotland is making someone wear a kilt.

oh dear.
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The Canadian,

05/04/2008 10:51:14
Tartan Day did not start up in the USA it was thought of in Antigonish, Mainland Nova Scotia and its main purpose was and is to promote Scottish Culture and to remind North Americans of who they are and where they came from.
It is only recently that Lowlanders or Anglos were part of the picture as they had nothing but hatred for things Highland and Gaelic.

Are we now seeing all this being taken over by people who from Scotland who have no interest in what it is all about.

The people who helped create this whole event do so on a voluntary basis, yet are left out of the equation, while others wile their way in and take over. Maybe the same should be done with some of the Festivals and events in Scotland since their they have little or no Scottish content like the Edinburgh Festival and the New Year celebrations.

Could your Government not wile their way in there and do something Scottish at home.

I have just heard that their will be at least two 6 week total immersion Gaelic courses in Nova Scotia in Halifax and at Gaelic College Cape Breton starting in May and July this year.
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Alfred E. Neuman,

05/04/2008 10:51:37
67 McX and 80 Union is Best

Thanks for taking time out of your busy lives to spam us today with these irrelevant statistics.

The story is about whether a fag wearing a dress on American TV would have a significant impact on Scotland.

My conculsion is that Maxwell is a tool and whoever sent this story to print has either been paid to run or is also a tool.

I have never read so much shyte since McX last spammed me.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 05/04/2008 10:51:44
Beth having looked at a couple of your videos I have one thing to say....

Wonderful!! Especially Brave Caledonia.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 10:55:25
#73 MtnKat

Scots-Americans formed a significant percentage of the early settlers in the southern States and made themselves very comfortable through slavery. Just like a high percentage of settlers in the British colonies in the Caribbean were Scots. Scotland was a dirt poor country until the Union and hadn't a pot to p**s in. Scots in the early days of the Union filled their boots with the economic benefits provided by it,whether it be individual Scots in the Carolinas or merchants in Glasgow, we made a mint through slavery. The attempts by SOME nationalists to portray us Scots somehow as poor victims of the Empire is pathetic. We were as, if not relatively more, enthusiastic in its expansion as the English, Welsh and Irish.
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Jack English,

North Carolina, USA 05/04/2008 10:59:25
If you judge the Americans by such tripe as the American Idol idiocy, we are doomed forever! We are Scots, English and all the other nationalties of the world. Not all of us are shallow. I am the grandson of William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, yet Edward I too. I think this uneasy alliance between Scotland and England will never work. I liked it better when we were fighting each other!
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Pat Scot,

Albernia 05/04/2008 11:01:26
So, let's adopt the irish model

1 Declare a republic, have a few scarps wait a few years
2 Negotiate a treaty, get a free state
3 Have a civil war
4 F@rt about for a bit
5 Be neutral during the "emergency" (WWII)
6 F@rt about for another 35-40 years, exporting our workforce in the meantime
7 Start getting loads of EU money for agriculture and infrastructure
8 Put affordable housing beyond the reach of ordinary folk

Now we could be selective about the steps we follow. The war ones wouldn't be nice. But we need to remember that Ireland was stagnating for most of the last half of the 20th century. The eventual washing through of EU money helped pave the way for the tiger. Scotland won't get anywhere near the same, as there are countries far more needy than ours.
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McX,

05/04/2008 11:03:13
#84 Dear Mr. Neuman, I have never ever 'spammed' you, although I suspect you're not averse to lying under a glass topped coffee table, with your gaping maw all a-quiver whilst some poor Eastern European lass squats above, pondering if this is what she gave up a career with the Krakow Chamber Orchestra for.

Don't deny it you cheeky monkey.
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Sgurr,

05/04/2008 11:03:57
As the old one goes, if Max Clifford knows so much about PR, how come most people think he is a complete spanner?

This paper is a load of ji'zz. Circulation figures and Johnson Press share price bear this out. RIP a paper long dead.
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Neil,

Glasgow 05/04/2008 11:04:30
Max Cliford may be scum but he does know his job. No offence Max.
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Sgurr,

05/04/2008 11:05:25
89McX LOL!! :D

Is this a common thing in brothel-land?! You sound like you know!
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Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 11:07:52
You don't have to be a fan of Max Clifford to at least recognise his abilities in the field of PR. Cowell in a Kilt is a brilliantly simple method of getting people in the US talking about Scotland Week and therefore Scotland.

The higher the profile of Scotland Week in America, the easier it is to get support from American politicians and Industrialists. Everyone wants to be associated with a winner. The next step would be Alex and Cowell together in kilts, again on a thousand US front pages not to mention UK pages too.

We may have the expertise in spreading the political message but it would do us no harm to listen to a world expert in PR like Max Clifford.
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Union is Best,

05/04/2008 11:11:58
84. Alfred, nice one, but what have cigarrettes to do with this?
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Alfred E. Neuman,

05/04/2008 11:13:10
93 Brian Hill

You must be an idiot.

Max Clifford is Simon Cowell's agent. Simon cowell is a cock. No-one takes that joke of a man seriously, he is a fully grown man who spends his days bullying weak children.

Max Clifford's job is to get him photographed standing next to high ranking Scottish Official like porky so that he change Cowell's image from irrelevant knob and closet gay with no credibility in the adult world. To irrelevant knob with pretentions at being taken seriously by the establishment.

Max Clifford is good because of idiots like you that can be convinced to cheapen your politicians and country/heritage by letting teets like Cowell dilute it for personal gain.
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Richardinho,

05/04/2008 11:15:03
Are kilts all we have to offer the world?
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 05/04/2008 11:15:09
#95 Alfred

Can you just clarify, you don't have a lot of time for Simon Cowell?
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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 05/04/2008 11:15:27
Time for the Scotsman's owners to step back and havea long hard look at what their paper is puting forward these days as news, to justify attacks on Alex Salmond.

Time for unionist supporters to do the same.

Thankfully though they won't
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Union is Best,

05/04/2008 11:16:59
#95. Alfred, nice one, slowly but surely your charm is winning people over to the Unionist cause!
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McX,

05/04/2008 11:18:03
Alfred E Neuman, when he's not hiding under glass topped coffee tables.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bksm2UT-zuc&feature=related
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monkey man,

05/04/2008 11:20:03
Salmond is now getting notorious for his choice of collating very dodgy political allies like the religious homophobic bigots of the RC Church in Scotland and now this Lott character in the USA.

Has Donald Trump's poodle commented yet on the crazy-haired Yank's latest boasts in the media regarding his proposed golf course development in Scotland.?
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Union is Best,

05/04/2008 11:22:22
101. Great point, but could you hold off on accusations of homophobia until Alfred E Neuman is finsihed here!One at a time! We unionists need coordination! (and if some Nat mentions Blair, RC, the Pope or such, just move on!)
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McX,

05/04/2008 11:23:45
"Has Donald Trump's poodle commented yet on the crazy-haired Yank's latest boasts in the media regarding his proposed golf course development in Scotland.?"

Nope, but he's got to appear before a Parliamentary committee in a couple of weeks to be grilled about his appointment as High Commissioner to Malawi.

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Union is Best,

05/04/2008 11:26:40
103. Nice try McX, but people will not be fooled by McConnells lauding of Trump, his offers to put Scottish Exec staff at Trumps disposal and all those helicopter tours for Trump McConnell organised - clearly Salmond was behind all that.
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Beth Boyle,

NY 05/04/2008 11:28:36
A source close to the First Minister said the SNP was delighted to receive Mr Lott's backing. UGH!
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 05/04/2008 11:29:57
#79 Connaughtboy.

I don't? Then why don't YOU explain the difference and we'll all see if YOU understand?

To those who think that Ireland suc