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Spy chief says 42-day detention plan is not workable



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Published Date: 09 July 2008
THE former head of MI5 added her voice yesterday to opposition to government plans for 42-day pre-charge detention for terrorist suspects.
Baroness Manningham-Buller told the House of Lords she did not believe the proposal to extend from the current 28-day limit was "in any way workable".

Her comments came as peers debated the Counter-Terrorism Bill, which scraped through the Commons
by just nine votes last month.

Lady Manningham-Buller is the latest in a string of high-profile figures from the security and legal establishment to come out against the 42-day plan, following the former lord chancellor, Lord Falconer; the former attorney general, Lord Goldsmith; the Lord Advocate, Elish Angiolini; and the Director of Public Prosecutions, Sir Ken Macdonald.

Her successor as director general of MI5, Jonathan Evans, took the rare step last month of issuing a public statement to say the Security Service was standing aside from the debate over 42 days, as it was not an appropriate body to advise the government on detention limits.

In her maiden speech to the Lords yesterday, Lady Manningham-Buller said: "I have weighed up the balance between the right to life – the most important civil liberty – the fact that there is no such thing as complete security, and the importance of our hard-won civil liberties. Therefore, on a matter of principle, I cannot support 42 days' pre-charge detention, although I do understand there are different views."



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  • Last Updated: 08 July 2008 11:27 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Terrorism in the UK
 
1

Brian Howes,

West Lothian 09/07/2008 02:45:53
Hello Mr Aldridge,

My Wife and I are in the same position but have both spent 214 days on remand for something we have not done. We have four young girls and they and my wife have suffered enough at the hands of the 2003 extradition act. No evidence is needed and the parents of four young children will be left in care when we are extradited to Arizona were we have never been for up to 3 years on remand there. where
is the justice if you loose before you even come to trial? If we are remanded or extradited we for crimes we have not done we will die for sure as we live for our children and each other and we have lost this for 214 days already without crime or evidence. Without our children we have nothing without each other we are no longer here.

http://www.petition.co.uk/howes_family_extradition_fight_please_help

Thank you,

The Howes Family
2

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State..... Coatbridge 09/07/2008 09:42:24
I bet she said there weren't any WMD in Iraq as well !
3

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 09/07/2008 10:45:51
Is M. Corleone still spouting his Romish nonsense on these threads.

He really should get another hobby. His postings are irrelevant and ultimately BORING.
4

The Spook in Leith,

09/07/2008 11:32:25
#3

Funny i could have swore i wrote the same regarding yourself, lets face it your not the brightest of posters are you ?
5

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 09/07/2008 11:43:30
Spook in Leith

Chacun a son gout.

Right back at you and you seem consumed with jealousy and envy at your intellectual superiors.

Did you even graduate from grade school, you insulting non-entity?
6

MisterN,

Scotland 09/07/2008 11:45:25
2.

Are there WMDs in Iraq? not being used by the coalition forces?
7

The Spook in Leith,

09/07/2008 11:57:51
#5

"Right back at you and you seem consumed with jealousy and envy at your intellectual superiors.!

Correct and well said but your not one of them, not buy a long shot..!!

BTW i did graduate..Certificate of Higher Education in Sport science
Honours Degree of MA in Accountancy and Languages
and doing one more year in Sports science for a higher award..so go spin you non-entity
8

The Spook in Leith,

09/07/2008 11:59:50
#7

BTW spelling is not my strong point but hey no one is perfect, not even me..
9

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 09/07/2008 13:06:07
#3
Bet you've been searchin for that one 'nice but dim'...gaun, you have haven't you?

It was actually reported that she had hinted at this some time ago, but being in the position she was then ...couldn't, however she has scuttled Big Balloon now.

Her comments in the speech were very relative in my opinion; right to life, no such thing as complete security and all that, so very valid.

But maybe she is spouting "Romish nonsense" as well....what is that by the way?

You need to enlighten us Tim...or me anyway
10

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 09/07/2008 14:03:52
7 The Spook

I congratulate you on your outstanding academic credentials but will not emulate you in your bragging as I have a list even longer than yours.

It is just not done in these threads because some of the other posters get jealous and envious and quite vicious if one proclaims one's academic background.
11

truthsleuth,

09/07/2008 14:24:23
Just implement the 42 days and stop submitting to what is a politically correct and unrepresentative minority.

It has been known for lAw Lords to say that the law should also represent public opinion.
12

Fanling,

Switzerland 10/07/2008 04:00:28
#4 The Spook in Leith

You waste your breath and intellect with the poster above you. The opinions of perceptive others of that fool are amply and well documented on these boards.

 

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