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Published Date: 25 May 2009
By HAMISH MACDONELL
Scottish Political Editor
BBC Scotland is expected to be reported to the police today after staging an hour-long phone-in on the British National Party.
Dr Nick McKerrell, a lecturer in human rights law at Glasgow Caledonian University and SSP European elections candidate, believes last Thursday's phone-in gave the BNP a platform for its racist views.

Dr McKerrell said yesterday he would report th
e Morning Extra programme to the police on grounds of a possible incitement to racial hatred.

He said he was concerned at the content of many the calls aired on the programme and accused the BBC of providing the BNP with "an open goal for their racist views".

Scottish Socialist Party leaders Colin Fox and Frances Curran said that the BBC had been "suckered" into providing the BNP with a platform.

They said: "On the back of a stunt story about the BNP going to Buckingham Palace, BBC Scotland have been suckered into providing them with an hour-long publicity slot on Radio Scotland."

The SSP has already lodged a formal complaint about the programme with the BBC and has written to Alex Salmond, the First Minister, asking him to condemn the broadcaster.

A BBC spokeswoman said: "No candidates from the BNP appeared on the programme but members of the public did phone in to express a whole range of views. The BBC has a duty to debate issues with a whole range of opinion on controversial subjects. The programme did that whilst steering a careful line on a difficult issue."

Meanwhile, the Archbishops of Canterbury and York have urged voters not to let the expenses scandal lead to increased backing for the British National Party at the European Parliamentary and local elections on 4 June.

In a joint statement, issued on behalf of the Church of England House of Bishops, Rowan Williams and John Sentamu said it would be "tragic" if people chose not to vote, or to register a protest vote, as a result of the scandal.





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1

The Creature from the Black Lagoon,

24/05/2009 22:22:41
The SSP has already lodged a formal complaint about the programme with the BBC and has written to Alex Salmond, the First Minister, asking him to condemn the broadcaster.
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That will have the BBC shaking in its shoes.
2

The Creature from the Black Lagoon,

24/05/2009 22:24:36
Scottish Socialist Party leaders Colin Fox and Frances Curran said that the BBC had been "suckered" into providing the BNP with a platform.
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Unfortunately the Scotsman Newspaper has been suckered in to providing the SSP Nonentities with a platform.
3

Vivas,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 00:16:28
Its a democracy. We don't have to like their views but they should be heard. Once ordinary people hear these kind of opinions it becomes plain what kind of nastiness we're dealing with.

Lets have them out in the open where we can hear them and deal with it. Trying to supress it just plays right into their hands.
4

Brianwci,

25/05/2009 01:04:05
#4 Vivas: "Lets have them out in the open where we can hear them and deal with it."

Agree with you entirely Vivas. Abhorrent as some views may be Democracy dictates they must be aired.

Had we not been able to discuss Self Abuse or Homosexuality in the past we may still think these activities are mentally, emotionally and physically damaging.

All social 'boils' are better lanced and given air, some of them actually turn out to be quite normal if not actually beneficial.....though not the BNP I think.
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Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 25/05/2009 01:57:01
This last week I received my election bumf through the door: the usual rubbish for the most part. But amongst the rubbish were two election leaflets that caught my eye, one for the BNP and one for UKIP. Both struck me as odd. Both were trying to appeal to a sense of Britishness which I confess I do not have. On the UKIP leaflet there was a picture of Winston Churchill. On the BNP leaflet, a spitfire.

What a peculiar sense of Britishness they offer us. Our defining character, our defining historical memory, is wrapped up in the second world war. Have we had no history since then? Has 'British' life since 1945 been a vacuum? Of course not. Since 1945 we have had Suez and Korea. Since 1945 we have had the swinging 60s. Since 1945 we have had Thatcherism, devolution, and the War on Iraq. So why would I be moved by Winston Churchill, or pictures of spitfires?

This obsession with the war is as irritating as the obsession some Scottish Nationalists have for 1314. I have voted SNP for many years but not because I take a historical view of politics. I want Scottish Independence because I believe decision-making powers are best kept close to the people who they impact upon. Westminster does not allow for that. Also, my girlfriend is German, so appeals to the war remind me only that it is easy to set people apart as enemies but that the reality is often that 'foreigners' often aren't that different from 'us'.

I hope the BNP and UKIP do badly in the upcoming elections. I suspect, however, that we might just be lucky in Scotland because we don't have local council elections. We will be voting for six MEPs. The vote will be carried out by proportional representation. I suspect the main parties will take all of the seats and parties like UKIP and the BNP will not do well in Scotland. I'd like to think it's because their sense of Britishness bespeaks an English conception of Britishness that we do not share. Worryingly, the outcome in England might
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Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 25/05/2009 01:57:41
Worryingly, the outcome in England might be quite different. The political make-up of councils for the next four years may be shaped by opportunist right wing parties cashing in on the expenses scandal. Where stands Britain then?
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Am Fògarrach,

25/05/2009 02:22:07
#2 Creature from the Black Latrine - "Unfortunately the Scotsman Newspaper has been suckered in to providing the SSP Nonentities with a platform."

Not the first time the Scotsman Newspaper has been suckered. After all, they provided you with a platform.

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im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 25/05/2009 03:25:49
if we ban them are we not,being as bad as hitler?,we stifle free speech,when it goes against what we think is the right way?
Let these clowns spout their rubbish ,as all will see ,what a minority they are ,and vote other parties ,and leave them high and dry,and hopefully fade away alltogether
labour with all its sleeze,its "Right on " stances and its anti democracy policies are more to blame ,than would be small minded wanna be nazis,who are about as scary as those nazis singing "Springtime for Hitler"
Achtung Achtung Idiots loose
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JamesS,

London 25/05/2009 04:25:51
"Dr Nick McKerrell, a lecturer in human rights law"

Presumably McKerrell is comfortable with a law that allows the government to regulate their citizens' emotions and denies people the right to hear any view point they want.

If McKerrell is so worried about being 'incited to hatred' then why didn't he switch off the moment he heard 'hateful views' being expressed to prevent himself being contaminated? Or is he just to 'educated' and 'clever' to be personally affected?
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 25/05/2009 05:50:34
#2 CFTBL

"Unfortunately the Scotsman Newspaper has been suckered in to providing the SSP Nonentities with a platform."

They may no longer be the non entities they once where thanks to Labour's meltdown. They should be able to pick up all the chippy Class Warriors for whom this expenses scandal is the last straw. Where as the Core flock of "my father voted labour and his father before him" since they actually have no experience thinking for themselves may fall for the simpletons at the BNP.

I agree with Vivas and Brianwci that it would be unwise to allow free speech, especially political speech, to be censored.

It is far better to have the malodorous idiocy out in the open where it can be exposed for the tripe that it is.


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ZipptJeffrey,

Castle 25/05/2009 07:51:00
Again we see how stupid and incompetent BBC Scotland is. Until there is a MASSIVE clean out of management at BBC Scotland it will remain an enemy of the Scottish people.
12

Boy Wonder,

25/05/2009 08:14:58
The BNP could be the centre of a WEEK-LONG phone-in anywhere ... and all they'll ever show is why they should never have any public support for any of their odious "policies".

They might get into a council seat here and there in middle England ... but they'll always get the short shrift they fully deserve in Scotland.
13

TWC,

exLabour 25/05/2009 08:41:17
16 Joe,

You are a big boy log off if you don't want to read the posts and if you want to only read one viewpoint get the the Daily worker.
14

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25/05/2009 08:44:48
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Number 6,

Germany 25/05/2009 09:09:32
This will be the same BBC that has cancelled the scheduled up coming program on the elections in Scotland, simply because things are not going Labour's way.

Just another example of information blackouts, that are happening across the media in Scotland, and will get worse as we near a GE date.
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Sgian Achlais,

25/05/2009 09:10:15
You know its a strange world when the wacky left want to censor the wacky leftist BBC from holding phone in's.

Did this SSP person call into complain about Labour being provided with a political platform and support for the last 50 years on BBC Scotland.

I disagree with the BNP and everything it stands for but I do not wish to see the people of any country banned from sharing their opinions.

Why is it that the public broadcaster should not be allowed to listen to the views of the public.

I listen to this program regularly and apart from supporting the Labour party to the point of hero worship they try and let people express their opinion.

It is a sad day for democracy when we let the comrades decide what is suitable discussion and what is banned. They are political zeolots compared to the BNP racial zeolots.

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Queen D,

25/05/2009 09:11:02
Bully wee , I noticed that and was reminded of the only piece of violent footage from demonstrators , as opposed to police, at the G20 demonstration.
Made me think " set up!" what about you?

The BNP is a legal party , all the media do is jump up and down every now and then to paint it as the bogey man of politics.
The last few years has shown the bogey men of the established parties are worse!I heard that T Blair was advising G Brown and I really lost the place! That man and all in the cabinet at that time should be on trial for war crimes.The fact that the media try to make him look like the second coming makes me truly sick!

If the BNP were allowed time on political programmes like other parties, they could allow the electorate to decide, free speech and all that!
We are so lucky in Scotland to have our 5 or 6 choices without the BNP , which I consider to be an English party.
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Sgian Achlais,

25/05/2009 09:13:07
15
Boy Wonder,25/05/2009 08:14:58
The BNP could be the centre of a WEEK-LONG phone-in anywhere ... and all they'll ever show is why they should never have any public support for any of their odious "policies".

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Totally agree. Let us not ban them let us out debate them. Show their arguments are flawed and their policies are pointless and unworkable.
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TWC,

exLabour 25/05/2009 09:13:20
19 Number 6

which programme was that??
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The Creature from the Black Lagoon,

25/05/2009 09:23:27
TWC, Number 6 is imagining things as usual.

CBEEBIES has changed its schedule for Bank Holiday Monday, and Number 6 thinks its a Labour Election Conspiracy.
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 25/05/2009 09:24:40
Whilst I completely abhor the BNP and what they stand for, Dr McKerrell's suggestion is an unacceptable restraint of freedom of speech. We may not like what certain people say, but they must have the right to say it.
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bertie bert,

25/05/2009 09:41:16
connaughtboy, and what exactly do the BNP Stand for, come on tell us which policies you dont like.
The only difference between the BNP Voluntary repatriation policys and Labours is.

The ILLEGALS of what ever race skin colour WILL BE SENT BACK.
The bogus asylum seekers of whatever race colour that have crossed 10 safe countries before landing in Britain will be sent back.
AND the BNP Voluntary repatriation is more generous both to the immigrant, AND the country of origin, offering incentives to the country of origin like to guarantee imports from their country into Britain (things we cannot grow/make ourselves) at a higher price than they would normally get on the open international market thus providing employment in their own countries.
And the remaining immigrants that wish to stay in Britain WILL have the exact same laws rules benefits as anyone else regardless of race/colour.
The BNP policy is nothing radical, obnoxious, vile, racist, as some people make out they are.

Help immigrants already here to rejoin their families in their countries of origin, or to return with their families to these countries, if they so wish. (conservative manefesto 1966) heath

http://www.conservative-party.net/manifestos/1966/1966-conservative-manifesto.shtml

a Conservative government will follow a policy of strictly limited immigration.
http://www.conservative-party.net/manifestos/1974/Oct/october-1974-conservative-manifesto.shtml

LABOUR has 5 Voluntary repatriation schemes.
The Home Office introduced AVR (Assisted Voluntary Return) programmes in 1999.
here is full details of the Labour government voluntary repatriation scheme for naturalised British citizens to return to their ancestral homelands ;

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/freedom-of-information/released-information/foi-archive-immigration/5616-voluntary-returns?view=Binary
23

GM,

25/05/2009 09:43:56
I just wonder if Dr McKerrell could provide us all a list of what other topics we should be excluded from discussing or hearing about.

I'm sure we are all keen to align ourselves with his personal moral compass and views...
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bertie bert,

som 25/05/2009 09:43:58
It may surprise some people that the BNP have members of polish,Italian, hungarian decent, gay, disabled, jewish, and many members have foreign wives/husbands etc.
The BNP have Jewish councillors, a Jewish treasurer.
BNP also have Members of the Armed forces, ex WW2 veterans, ex spitfire pilots, pensioners.
Unemployed, Self employed and professional people !


Adam Walker BNP teacher has a Japanese wife, Richard Barnbrook (BNP GLA member) his partner Simone Clarke (BNP member)are bringing up Simones mixed race young child.

Regarding the usual ‘racist’ accusations – the most seriously injured BNP activist turns out to have a Chinese wife; one of the two BNP officers in Wigan turns out to have been married 24 years to an Asian woman, and has a mixed race child (well, she’s 20 now).

Democracy=the will of the people, the opposite is dictatorship.


Soon the Media will HAVE to report the BNP in a fair and honest manner, because the people are waking up!

JUST REMEMBER.
It was not the BNP that started the illegal wars that are getting our soldiers slaughtered. I WOULD CALL THAT EXTREME!


It was not the BNP that stole the pension funds of millions of our elderly.
I WOULD CALL THAT EXTREME!


It was not the BNP that sold of our Utility Companies to overseas buyers who now exploit us. I WOULD CALL THAT EXTREME


It was not the BNP that betrayed the True British People by swamping Our Country with mass unfettered immigration. I WOULD CALL THAT EXTREME


It was not the BNP that sold our gold for peanuts to Europe.
I WOULD CALL THAT CRIMINAL !
It was not the BNP that gave away our fishing fleets, industry, farming.
I WOULD CALL THAT TREASON !
It was not the BNP that allowed the banker to rip us off for billions.
I WOULD CALL THAT THEFT!


It was not the BNP that destroyed our education, NHS, Law AND Order etc
I WOULD CALL THAT CRIMINAL!
It was not the BNP that destroyed our manufacturing base.
I WOULD CALL THAT TREA
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Number 6,

Germany 25/05/2009 09:49:52
#23TWC, the BBC were sheduled to have a programme covering the Euro elections in Scotland. The excuse given for cancelling the programme was that it did not meet "Their criteria for viewer diversity"

"Regarding next week's European Hustings with the Federation of Small Business and Amnesty International, I do find the BBC's decision to cancel this event bizarre and have told them so. They are worried the public could form a biased audience. We'd given 10 tickets to each of the four main parties for their supporters – the way we've always done to overcome such possible bias in the past. I don't know why that suddenly isn't good enough, and having spent three months arranging the event it's tough to have it cancelled at the last minute. And even tougher to see how the BBC will ever manage to have an election programme involving the public without loads of staff and months of audience vetting. Is that really necessary or massive politically correct overkill?"

Worried that the public could form a biased audience ???. Have you ever heard anything so bizzare?

#24 Creature, will you ever stop demonstating your ignorance. How you put up with so much public humiliation is beyond me.

Please, please keep posting.

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The Nearly Doctor,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 10:29:45
This reminds me of what happens when articles on Scientology are posted: the organisation's creatures swarm around them, trying to drown out less blinkered discourse.

I tore up the BNP propaganda the moment it fluttered through my letterbox - but I do remember the Spitfire poster. The 303 squadrom were Polish, if I remember!

Whilst I vote for Scottish independence, I do so only on the basis that we grasp for it with an eye on our place in the world, an internationlist outlook; a rope weaved from many strands, as it was always.
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Sgian Achlais,

25/05/2009 10:52:19
When I recollect over the past few months and even the last year or so. I have heard so much about the BNP from the Labour party supporters and MP's.

The left leaning media in the UK are showing bias. We should be looking at what the BNP are saying and arguing against it. Not banning it or hiding away from the issue. Their is a very real feeling that immigration in many parts of England has become a massive issue that the main stream parties have no reasoned working policy to address. This is not a Scottish Story nor a Scottish issue yet.

I wonder if this is a way that main stream parties such as Labour are trying to scare the ethnic peoples to vote Labour, while at the same time scaring their supporters who are sickof their troughing antics to vote to stop the SNP getting in.

Political ideology should be debated with all those who wish to debate. Peacefull political difference is what makes us stronger and inclusive.

If the BNP were calling for deaths and voilent action against foreigners as are the many, many Wahabbi Islamic Imans in mosques through out the country and around the world then I wonder how the BBC would report this.
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Allan(handofgod137),

25/05/2009 10:54:31
Amazing how many of you are so small minded and blinkered, that you still accept what the media tellas you about the bnp rather than finding out for yourselves. Given that the selfsame media kept telling us that the economy was in safe hands when labour were electede, don't you think your blind trust in them may be misplaced?
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 11:08:38
I do not think that we need concern ourselves too much here in Scotland with the activities of any of the parties of the far-right.

I listened to the phone-in programme referred to in the article and each and every one of the BNP apologists who came on appeared to be as thick as two short planks.

“I am not racist” quoth one, “I am merely xenophobic!”

“I am a nurse in Aviemore, and would prefer not to treat non-white patients.” (This from an individual whose accent placed her place of origin many hundreds of miles south of Aviemore.)

“I do not deny that the Holocaust ever took place, but other people have denied that other massacres have taken place”.
So that’s all right then?

“I have voted Tory all my life, but all politicians are corrupt, so I’m going to vote BNP this time.”
Doh!
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TWC,

exLabour 25/05/2009 11:09:12
32
Allan(handofgod137),

There appears to be a fair spread of opinion here but I don't see that many being anti BNP.

I haven't even seen any BNP Leaflets.
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hoblar,

25/05/2009 11:33:21
They post the bnp leaflets through the letterbox, but the pamphlet is all about England and contacting somewhere in England if you are interested.

I laughed at the stupid effort, about as spot on as a labour pamphlet actually "british jobs for etc".

The bnp have done naffall in Scotland, it is some deprived areas in England that they are looking to capitalise on, but in Scotland the demography and the principles are different historically rendering their efforts as marginal.

Which is a good thing for all decent types.
32

Electric Hermit,

25/05/2009 11:45:50
33
bully wee alba

“I am a nurse in Aviemore, and would prefer not to treat non-white patients.”

A perfect example of why the BNP knuckle-draggers should be encouraged to air their odious views.

Dr Nick McKerrell is quite right, however. Incitement to racial hatred is against the law and any such incident should be investigated. In our eagerness to flaunt our tolerance we should not turn a blind eye to possible criminal behaviour.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 25/05/2009 12:24:51
#28 bertie bet.

You've told us what was not BNP policy, would you, now, like to tell us what is.

What is the BNP policy on race?

What is the BNP policy on the Constitution?

What is the BNP policy on freedom of belief?

What is the BNP policy on nuclear power/weapons?

I have some other questions which I'll ask after the ones above have been answered.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 25/05/2009 12:26:43
#37.

Correction:

What is BNP policy on race, specifically with regard to British citizenship?
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 13:02:59
#37 Frank

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer

For the avoidance of any doubt, here is a small exert from a BNP chat-site:


“Re: BNP Scotland progress
________________________________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by amadeus
Scotland must be won over! The Scots must be shown that the SNP is NOT a Nationalist party. It is a party which subscribes, openly or otherwise, to the EU and NWO for its own benefits and not those of the Scots or Scotland. How many MEP's will the SNP get into Brussels, and what will the SNP's financial reward be as a result? The EU want a Socio-Marxist Full House at any cost to continue their advance to a Marxist Europe in the NWO. The latter must be prevented at all cost. Their aim has been on the road for over 50 years and they have nearly achieved their goal. Czechoslovakia may well stop them, and we must follow.
Well said, Amadeus. The SNP are the ZOG-loving Scum of the Earth. Their brand of faux-nationalism encourages us to think of "Asian Scots" as a valid section of the community, and at the same time attempts to turn us against our English Brothers and Sisters. Our First Minister (even the title is a joke) once refused to have his photograph taken in front of Inverness town hall because the Union Flag was (rightly) flying from the building. That is a shocking insult to our beloved United Kingdom, Her Majesty the Queen and, worst of all, our war dead who were sent into conflict by Zionist backed scum just like him.

All the mainstream parties are the same. Even the Tories are part of the devolution process and therefore cannot be trusted.

The political agenda is clear. If the UK can be divided, it can be destroyed. We must not let that happen.
__________________
"Fatherland, Fatherland give us the sign, that your children have been waiting to see. Morning will come when the world is all mine. Tomorrow belongs to me."

"I've got a brand new leather jacket and a brand new mobile phone. The whites all live in ca
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 13:03:47
"I've got a brand new leather jacket and a brand new mobile phone. The whites all live in cardboard boxes, while we get furnished homes. Council Tax, central heating, driving lessons and free pills. We get all the benefits, while the whites get all the bills."

When i was out on the weekend there was a negro in the pub i was at and he had three white women all over him, it made me sick to my stomach.”


Does anyone know what a “Zog” is?
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Eve,

Scotland 25/05/2009 13:06:46
Saw there party political broad cast on Friday. Wound never have thought that any party could talk more hot air than the Labour party currently. BUT I was proved so wrong.

The words "This is not racism it's common sense" was used countless numbers of times. These are hardly the words of a non-bigoted political party.

Reminds me a wee bit about the story about the wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 25/05/2009 13:31:12
I heard the programme in question and quite frankly I think calls for a Police investigation are ludicrous. It's quite a good programme, it is kind of like an auditory version of the threads on here :)

Seriously 'though - regards to the BNP aye by all means allow them to have their say, but that should be countered with the truth in amongst all the Spitfire/Winston Churchill nonsense. They are racists who don't believe non-white people who were born in this country are British/Scottish. They want them re-patriated. That needs to be made clear whenever their views are broadcast or published.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 25/05/2009 13:39:30
# bertie bert.

I presume, from your lack of reply - over an hour, you've been required to consult your "leadership" for the appropriate sanitised reply.

I have time to wait.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 13:47:43
43 frank mcbride

Maybe he is away looking up the definition of “Zog”?
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FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 25/05/2009 13:53:53
#40 - BWA, there was a former King of Albania called Zog; that's the only one I can think of.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 14:10:41
#45

I was not actually aware of that individual, however, originating as I do from Alba, perhaps we may be related.

Maybe I am a “MacZog”, in which case the BNP may well wish to repatriate me to the east-end of Glasgow or even South Uist.

But wait, I (used to have) fair hair, and (still have) blue eyes, so might I still escape the pogrom?

However, I am also left-handed, so I suppose there is no escape for the likes of me.
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Number 6,

Germany 25/05/2009 15:06:47
Creature from the black lagoon seems to have slithered of as well after making such a dolt of himself (AGAIN)
at 24.

Is there such a condition as humiliation addiction?
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Farky,

Thought we lived in a democracy 25/05/2009 15:40:34
Surely the BNP are entitled to stand for election, have their voice heard?

The main reason they are apparently doing better in the polls is down to voter anger and frustration with the main parties at Westmister. It might also be that people feel genuinely worried that the government has lost control of immigration which is no secret!
We don't know how many illegal immigrants there are in the UK, where they are, what they are doing etc... Are people not entitle to feel concerned about this...???

They can't speak out and say they are, or else they are branced "racist"!
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 25/05/2009 16:58:52
#48


Which part of Scotland did you say you were from again?
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Queen D,

25/05/2009 17:03:41
I think what gets me is the secondhand information that the " quality " press shoves out as fact without allowing free speech in response.
Either there is free speech or there is'nt and I for one am worried about the censorship of any legal group.

I have listened and read lies and spin in the media too often to accept their word on anything.
I read an article in the Guardian today which I found shockingly inaccurate and biased.

It would be so easy to close down debate of any kind by manipulating the media and by a manipulating media.

Remember , "First they came for........"
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Curley Bill,

25/05/2009 17:12:52
#49 BWA - now, now, 'e doesn't 'ave to be from God's Country to voice an opinion, luv-a-duck.
(I've never really understood that expression, and find it strangely creepy - unlike the Tory MP with the duck house who finds it strangely exciting).
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jane shore,

london 25/05/2009 18:26:37

Curley Bill @ 52 ......... you seem a little confused with your English knowhow. Gods own country is Yorkshire but luv a duck is Cockney rhyming slang. (I expect you can work it out).
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GM,

25/05/2009 19:36:04
@36

I might have known you'd side with the thought police.
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ThePeter,

Glasgae 25/05/2009 20:13:43
Oh come on..
All the socialist parties are just one small step away from being the BNP - all of them have "we know what is good for everyone" and all hold it self-evident that they are correct..

I find it amusing that both Labour and the SNP are scared of their voters defecting to the BNP. Do not think the Lib Dems or the Tories are as their voters would not be seen dead having the BNP philosophy...

And the SSP - come on boys and girls - rename yourselves ultimate fascists....
51

GM,

25/05/2009 20:20:32
@55
yup,

two sides of the same coin
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Observer,,

Glasgow 25/05/2009 20:34:15
55 that's mince, it's the Labour/ working class Tory votes that the BNP are targetting. How many SNP/SSP voters do you know that could shift to the BNP without having brain surgery first ? Their collective philosophies are entirely different.
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Sgian Achlais,

25/05/2009 20:38:44
33bully wee alba, Edinburgh 25/05/2009 11:08:38
I do not think that we need concern ourselves too much here in Scotland with the activities of any of the parties of the far-right.....

“I am not racist” quoth one, “I am merely xenophobic!”

“I am a nurse in Aviemore, and would prefer not to treat non-white patients.” (This from an individual whose accent placed her place of origin many hundreds of miles south of Aviemore.)

========================================

I work in Aviemore on a regular basis and have lived and worked their in the past. There is one health clinic with about 10 staff.

They will be instantly recognisable to any listener of Radio Scotland from Aviemore due to the size of the town itself. Since Aviemore only receives BBC plus Morayfirth radio there will be a higher proportion of people listening to Radio Scotland. For that reason alone if they was a BNP supporting nurse she would not make that public let alone broadcast it.

Also there is not more than 30 non white people in the whole of the area serviced by the clinic of which most work in the catering trade.

The point is you would have to be really thick to select that cover story, location and comment...

...Without a doubt the true mark of a BNP supporter. Just not one from Aviemore.

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Curley Bill,

25/05/2009 20:38:50
#55: First of all, where is this 'Glasgae'? I've only ever heard the term used by supercilious smart€rses who wouldn't be seen dead in Glesca.

Secondly, the BNP WIll steal votes in England from both the Old Tories and the New Tories - in Scotland, I can guarantee NO SNP voter will defect to them.
The reason is this - all the SNP voters have Scotland as their primary concern, and know that each vote for the SNP is a nail in the union coffin.
55

ThePeter,

Glasgae 25/05/2009 20:46:57
# 59 - u are so funny little man
This Glasgae is also known as "Glasgow". When I moved to Glasgow many years ago and actually used "-ow" i was told to pronounce is "-ae", so it is my salute to it..

Also, all German workers party members had Germany as their primary concern - they went down in history as being Nazis. If you SNP got into power then i wonder if I'll be queried about how much "English" i have in my blood-stream or will the "black" part of me outweigh my "English" part???

Heil Salmond...

56

Observer,,

Glasgow 25/05/2009 20:51:29
60 what Glasgow is that then ? Not the one I live in.

You are obviously a troll who is on here to wind people up. Go back to your BNP masters and tell them to give you another script - the one you are quoting is rubbish.
57

Observer,,

Glasgow 25/05/2009 20:53:53
60 Oh did you mean GlasGAY after the festival of the same name ? Yes I've heard of that.
58

ADWiliams,

Anglesey 25/05/2009 20:55:42
For those of you that asked ZOG means Zion Occupied Government.

It's part of the ultra-Right's concpiracy obsession. They believe that a cabal of Jewish bankers has taken control of the Christian world's governments and through enforced multi-culturalism and unfettered immigration intends to racially and religiously dilute Europe and North America and create a mongrel race of poorly-educated sub-humans to toil in their factories and consume their products.

It's only a small amount of BNP - those on the very very far right of their part - that believe this. It's more assosciated with the rump National Front, White National Party and another bunch of weirdos that I forget November 9 or something like that.

It's more commonly found amongst US far-Right groups such as the Islamic extremist Louis Farrakhan's mob, the KKK and weird sects like that.
59

Chartist,

Wolverhampton 25/05/2009 20:56:32
An interesting debate on here. I think many have got it wrong re where BNP votes will come from in England, while I cannot deny that many white working class will desert labour and vote BNP they are picking up support across the class divide and in areas not enriched.
Would supporters of the SNP please explain why the SNP are so keen to increase immigration into Scotland, why they support islamic causes and how Scotland would be free as a region of the EU superpower the SNP support?
60

Rayatcov,

Coventry, England 25/05/2009 21:16:51
After reading the comments on here I thought you may be interested in the following blast from the past:-

During a cabinet meeting in early February 1953:
Winston Churchill considered blocking all immigration to Britain because he feared a growing "coloured population" was posing a threat to Britain's social stability.
Churchill, then 79, told Cabinet colleagues that he did not "want a parti-coloured UK". At a Cabinet meeting on February 3, 1954, the prime minister told colleagues: "Problems will arise if many coloured people settle here. Are we to saddle ourselves with colour problems in UK?"
Churchill said immigrants were attracted to Britain by the welfare state and he said:
"Public opinion in the UK won't tolerate it once it gets beyond certain limits."
I wonder which party would welcome him now.

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25/05/2009 21:35:46
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25/05/2009 21:37:35
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Iainbroch,

25/05/2009 22:05:20
re46

I have fair hair - still have it despite lifes' stresses, like dealing with idiots etc. Oh Blue eyes and I am 6ft 3inches tall.

Stick with me you will be safe! Especially if you are tall blonde haired and are 36-24-36. I guess you are doomed as I happen to like those little brown Oriental ladies.

As for those left handed tendencies - possible artist and thus a very dangerous individual.

I dont think I can arrange for you to be repatriated to South Uist though, as I think some of those BNP sympathising Lords have it in mind to turn it into a hunting estate. Much like a certain Nazi was allowed to claw back Knoydart after WW2 with the blessing of the Labour Party and the Brit establishemt! So much for supporting our war heroes!

yours Stefan Hitler

P.S Unless of course you wish to make a donation of several figures to the Party funds
64

Sgian Achlais,

25/05/2009 22:27:54
#59 Curley Bill,

Since I am a Teuchter I pronounce it Glas-go, causing much amusement to my family from the Glasgow area.

Seems the inability to butcher the english language is a flaw. LOL
65

Curley Bill,

26/05/2009 00:07:43
#69 My mate Big Roddy from Baileshare also says it as 'Glass-go' - sometimes when he's agitated it's like air escaping from a tyre.

Did anyone notice #60 attempting to link the SNP with the Nazis? I'm only surprised it took so long.

I don't belive in censorship, but in Steve A's case I'd make an exception - what an odiously repugnant little man.
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Sgian Achlais,

26/05/2009 00:29:02
70Curley Bill, 26/05/2009 00:07:43
#69 My mate Big Roddy from Baileshare also says it as 'Glass-go' - sometimes when he's agitated it's like air escaping from a tyre.

Did anyone notice #60 attempting to link the SNP with the Nazis? I'm only surprised it took so long.

I don't belive in censorship, but in Steve A's case I'd make an exception - what an odiously repugnant little man.

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I have noted more press about right wing parties winning seats that I can recall in the past. I assume this is the labour leaning media trying to get some support for labour to keep out the racists.

Campaign Poster Labour.

We might by lying, corrupt, fraudsters who are up to our necks in sleaze and financial scandals like all the other unionist parties but we are not also racists.

Message - Vote Labour for a racism free, corrupt, lying fraudster government who are up to their necks in sleaze and financial scandal.
67

Nìall,

Seeking enlightenment. 26/05/2009 09:58:51
Bertie Bert,

If you're not racist, what's this ignorant "True British People" lark? Given the successive invasions of Celts, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norsemen, Danes, and Norman French, and the recent discovery of genetic markers that may even predate the ice age, along with various occasional settlements of individuals of small family groups (as attested by surnames such as France and Pollock), I'd be hard-pressed to identify what a "True British Person" would be, and how they differ from anyone else from Central, Western and Northern Europe.

Britain is the biggest "mongrel" country in the old world. There is no British thoroughbreed.
68

Allan(handofgod137),

26/05/2009 10:33:15
#57 "How many SNP/SSP voters do you know that could shift to the BNP without having brain surgery first ?"

Big flaw in your argument, no one with a brain is a socialist!
69

Anthony,

Glasgow 26/05/2009 12:08:00
The bottom line is that the BNP are a lawful party. As it happens they support democratic elections and an acocuntable parliament. To compare them to Hitler and fascists is pretty unfair. I think perhaps the reason they were given the slot, was because of the appalling bias the BBC have shown against them.

Instead of criticisg the BNP I think time would be better spend asking why they are growing so rapidly in support. These are the questions the SSP and the political mainstream won't ask, because their scared of the answer.
70

Edinburgh Noddy,

08/06/2009 01:04:36
#13 "There is no future for a BNP in Scotland....My concern is that the non Celt Nation to our south adopts these philosophy of hatred."

What planet are you on? When did a party with so little support last come to have influence? And aren't you being just a little racist yourself? What does "non Celt" mean? Could you define that?

 

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