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Published Date: 06 June 2007

'18 MILLION DIE OF POVERTY'

GILL HUBBARD - spokeswoman and organiser for G8 Alternatives, an organisation including groups such as peace campaigners, environmentalists and anti-war protesters.

"The global campaign against poverty captured the imagination of everyone who mar
ched in Edinburgh and at Gleneagles in 2005. We wore white T-shirts and wristbands with a simple message - Make Poverty History.

No amount of police propaganda, portraying protesters as mindless thugs, could deter people from being part of this global phenomenon. But two years on, whilst billions are being spent on an illegal war in Iraq, 18 million people die of poverty every year.

Unfortunately, non-governmental organisations such as Oxfam have kept their criticisms of the G8 muted and subdued.

As the planet heats up and 30,000 children die of poverty every day, the eight rulers of the world meet again in Germany. I will not watch them pat each other on the back and shake hands for a job well done.

I am not alone - there are millions of us who have a different set of priorities and policies to the G8. We can start with immediately cancelling third world debt."

'THE POLICE HAVE A REAL CHALLENGE'


JOHN VINE, the chief constable of Tayside Police, was responsible for policing the 2005 G8 Summit at Gleneagles.

"I was full of apprehension and excitement. Apprehen- sive because I knew there would be mass protests from anarchist groups across Europe and the rest of the world.

The excitement was knowing this was the biggest challenge for any force in Scotland.

In the build up to the G8 various things were going through my mind - the safety and security of the world leaders, threats from terrorists, enabling those who had sincere views to have their say, and looking after the local community.

I believe by any account the planning and efforts for the G8 was judged to be a success. But the end of it was overshadowed by the London bombings on 7 July.

The police here (in Germany) have a real challenge on their hands. While we had a lot of anarchists at our G8, fewer border restrictions make it is more straightforward for them to come to Germany. It all looks very professional in Germany but I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

The G8 meant a lot to me personally. People forget police officers are human beings as well."

'THERE WAS A CARNIVAL ATMOSPHERE'


KAREN WHITELAW runs Whitelaw Antiques with her brother, Alan, in Auchterarder High Street, the small town invaded by protesters during the G8 in 2005.

"When I heard the G8 was coming here, my first concerns were about the troubles which had happened before at Genoa.

"But I have to say we were very lucky, and on the day of the march, a few days before the summit, there was a real carnival atmosphere. We had boards ready and were advised to board up the shop, but we stayed open until lunchtime, then put them up. Obviously, later on there was a bit of trouble in a field, but Auchterarder High Street was unaffected.

"The police were terrific, they were 'there' but not in your face," she said. "But then there was the bombing in London and to me the G8 became a nothing. A lot of the press went away and everything went flat.

"Shopkeepers did hope we would get something on the back of the G8, but we got no compensation even though people who would have visited stayed away for a week.

"Despite that, we would welcome it back, because it was a bit of excitement for a very quiet place.

"I think the whole G8 thing is a waste of money. They could make conference calls."

'LET'S HOPE LEADERS DELIVER'


MARK FRIED is an economic analyst and policy director for Oxfam.

Whenever the heads of the richest countries in the world meet to talk about the problems faced by poor countries, I grow hopeful.

The challenges of fighting HIV/AIDS, providing education, and adapting to climate change, for example, are all enormously complex. But underneath that complexity lies a simple and obvious reality which the G8 can remedy: poor countries don't have the money they need to make any headway.

The G8 have made a difference. At Gleneagles in 2005 they cancelled the debts of many African countries, and as a consequence people in Zambia now pay no fees when they get sick and need to visit rural clinics.

Unfortunately, G8 leaders don't always make good on what they promise. At Gleneagles they pledged to increase aid by £25 billion by 2010, with half of that going to Africa. Now it turns out nearly all G8 countries are failing to follow through.

Let's hope this week the leaders rise to the challenge of leadership, by bucking the tightwad advisers that surround them and delivering the money that can make such a difference in the lives of the poor."

'VALID TO MEET FACE-TO-FACE'


SHEENA NICOLSON, 63, from Archiestown, Moray, is a mathematics teacher for Voluntary Service Oversees at Lilongwe Teacher Training College in Malawi.

"I would say that in education I don't notice anything different from two years ago. Most of the big improvements there have been have come from donors such as the German charity GTZ and our own Department for International Development.

Our college has an electricity power cut almost every day. We have a computer room where the computers have been donated by various charities but we don't have a technician for when they need fixed.

I think it is valid for the G8 leaders to meet face-to-face but they should not be staying in five-star hotels with all their hangers-on. That to me is just a form of corruption.

I'm glad they'll be discussing global warming. Everyone here seems to be cutting down trees to make for charcoal for cooking. The hills which used to be covered in forests are becoming bare which will have repercussions for the future."

'HAVE WE MADE PROGRESS? YES'


HILARY BENN, Secretary of State for International Development.

"Landmark commitments were made to increase aid by $50 billion extra a year by 2010, half of which would go to Africa; to cancel crippling national debts; to make basic healthcare freely available; to work for universal access to AIDS treatment; and to ensure primary education is available to all.

Gleneagles is a byword for a ground-breaking year in the history of international development.

But have we made progress? Yes we have.

Global aid has increased since 2004 by $24.5 billion to $103.9 billion today. The debts of 22 countries have been cancelled; AIDS sufferers receiving treatment in sub-Saharan Africa have increased tenfold since 2003; funding for basic vaccines for up to 500 million people will help to save nearly ten million lives by 2015; and more children than ever before are in school. Quite simply, aid is working.

Today's G8 meeting will be another important milestone and should build on the success of Gleneagles, when we promised to make poverty history."

'MASSIVE WORLD BANK PROJECTS ARE FLAWED'


MARK JAMES is an environmental consultant from Belhaven in East Lothian.

"I have been interested in development issues for years. We entertained 25 cyclists - the Rickshaw Freedom Riders - who were en route from Southampton for the big rally in 2005, and we arranged for them to stay in a local church hall.

I just felt that I had to take part in the march because I felt so strongly about it.

I'm always a bit cynical about how much a politician will listen ... unless it's near an election. For me, the big thing is cancelling Third World debt. From the last G8 they've gone some way to do that but the whole process is painfully slow. It takes someone with political courage to stick their neck out... so I don't have great expectations. I try not to get too disappointed.

"We also need to see an overhaul of the World Bank for the massive projects that get funded but provide no benefits for local people and often jeopardise the environment.

"Over the last six months there has been so much more information about climate change ... and how it will affect the so-called developing nations.

"For the next G8 summit, that whole issue will have to come to the fore. There needs to be greater urgency and action if we are really going to alleviate poverty on their terms."

'G8 BECAME ALMOST YOUR WHOLE WORLD'


STUART SMITH is director of events and leisure at Gleneagles Hotel near Auchterarder, which played host to the G8 world leaders attending the 2005 summit.

He said: "We had long debates about whether we should bid for it after seeing the newspapers filled with what was going on at Genoa. But Tayside Police put our minds at rest.

"For the summit, the hotel was completely bought out for a week and it became a secure zone behind a seven-and-a-half mile steel fence. It was a very strange experience working within the fence. The G8 became almost your whole world because we were so involved in making sure it operated smoothly.

"I remember picking up on the atmosphere - on the Wednesday there was great excitement about the Olympics coming to London.

"But the atmosphere changed within the space of a minute with the London bombings. It felt like everything deflated.

"Having said that, there was still a steely resolve to do something about poverty and the Gleneagles Agreement probably went further than people expected.

"I think there has to be a way of bringing world leaders together for some form of discourse, but I wonder if G8 summits are the way to do it. The execution is the problem."



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  • Last Updated: 05 June 2007 9:57 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The G8
 
1

www.scottwebb.co.uk..,

06/06/2007 00:45:47

G8 summit...AKA..... New World ORder agenda update :)

2

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 06/06/2007 09:52:36

SIR ALL CAPITAL THIS TIME. I watched the BBC, SKY and my comment is POOR to stay poor. No help to Africa, Tony Blaire lied. Bush lied. Mercel says she wants the year 2050 and Bush wants the Toyotas to speed up the emmission.
All crazy stations.

Crazy world. Thomas Freidmen wrote " The world is Flat" I see this already.
we are falling off the surface.....

3

stevie z,

06/06/2007 10:04:22

Africa - the lost continent - another G8 and more hot air by the world leaders who do little to stop one of the world's great tragedies continue unabated. The real outcome, in terms of action, from Edinburgh's G8 was predicatble as will be this G8... Africa needs attention but this will not happen whilst self-interest prevails

4

Dougie - Edinburgh,

06/06/2007 10:30:04

Cancelling third world debt will not help alleviate poverty, it will simply encourage fiscal irresponsibility and theft on the part of corrupt third world leaders at a time when most Western countries are already facing crippling tax raises and social costs.

5

www.scottwebb.co.uk..,

06/06/2007 12:14:12

Hi all, i think you will find the following HIGHLY educational :)............................John Perkins on "The Secret History of the American Empire: Economic Hit
Men, Jackals, and the Truth about Global Corruption"

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/05/149254

6

Sedov,

Scotland 06/06/2007 14:30:23

Make Poverty History? Only a total tranformation of society into a socialist planned economy can save the world.

7

James Davies,

South Wales 06/06/2007 16:03:38

The G8 Summit will be talking shop
I just come back from Africa and seen the poverty at first hand.
I'm ashamed to say I had a shower, when back in my hotel seeing people washing in the river.
We are the lucky one's living in this part of the world.

8

Jersey Girl,

Stirling, Scotland 06/06/2007 16:05:29

#4 Dougie and #5 Fresian,

The Make Poverty History campaign is not attempting to create fiscal irresponsibility. They are simply trying to make the world a little more bearable for those who live in abject poverty. They are only trying to make people more aware of the fact that basic human compassion should compel us to help them, and the huge debts these countries are trying to pay only impede this.
Do you disagree with charitable giving too? (This is not a sarcastic statement, just a question)

9

Smokey0541,

Lakewood, Colorado U.S.A. 06/06/2007 19:18:18

Hey Ya all, Really great comments ya all have posted. I hope I can say this in such a way that ya all will see what I'm saying and not how I say it.

For many years several countries have poored BILLIONS of dollars into those countries that suffer from ABJECT POVERTY. What has been the result? I won't bore you with a list of these countries and those results. However, my research from time to time has shown me that the beneficaries of these efforts has been those in power and not the victoms. It saddens me greatly to know we can split the atom. BUT we can't feed the hungry. So what is the answer? Let our mindless politcians continue to waste our hard earned money? Do we continue to send food products that just sets on some dock and rots? Do we take these products directly to those in need which only causes rogue armys to raid and kill the innocent and take their food? Do we ask the useless U.N. to assist and protect? (yeah right) If you want to control a country, control their money. If you want to control the people, control their food. I don't even pretend to have a solution. And I don't think anyone that could correct this delima gives a dam. You sure as hell can't think for a moment that any government has the answer !
We here in the U S will very soon be reduced to a level of poverty that has never been seen in our nations history. Our elected officials are (as I post this) on the verge of granting AMNESTY to over 20 million illegal immigrants. AND ,,,,, elemanating our borders between MEXICO and CANADA. You don't believe me !!!! Just type in SPP in your browser. The oligarcy that has control of our government is well on it's way to creating a NORTH AMERICAN UNION. That is the U.S. Canada and Mexico. The new money is the Amero. I'm getting to wordy here and a little off the main subject. But, we are talking poverty ,,,RIGHT? And WE THE PEOPLE are on our way. I LOVE my country. But I FEAR my government.

Take care my dear Scotts. And pray wha

10

Boab,

Glasgow 06/06/2007 20:16:33

#10 And I'm sure your mates in the Raploch would agree, Mr Chairman!

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Croman mac Nessa,

06/06/2007 23:36:04

12, though this could be propaganda, it is the official word of the US govt on the alleged NAU and SPP:

http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp

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Pisipati Sriram,

Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India 07/06/2007 04:28:46

Will the rich bring sunshine into the lives of millions of people on this Blue Planet? They can, perhaps.

Sir, - The 8 powerful rulers of the world will be meeting in Germany against the backdrop of rising world temperatures threatening the very survival of the vulnerable and poor countries in the not distant future, 30,000 children dying of poverty everyday, crippling HIV/AIDS posing a formidable and daunting task in pamdemic areas like sub Saharan Africa among the other equally pressing problems. Global aid is working and helping in solving problems to some extent.

Commitments made to increase aid to help African countries to free them from debts and health facilities accessible have been manifestly working since the last meet at Gleneagles in 2005. Against this background G-8 has to strive more to achieve its goal of making `poverty a history'. Simple fact is many poor countriers do not have money to solve the various problems faced by them on their own.

On a major issue like like climate change, apart from international development aid, member countries have to act in concert to save the earth.

US and Australia have announced their own separate climate initiatives, Russia's Vladmir Putin has held out a missile threat to Europe, in a reaction to US stand on reforms, Blair, the last seniormost leader in the G-8 group is confident of making the meet a success although it is his last participation in the capacity of a PM of Britain. Germany's Angela has her own commitments on the climate issue.

If the powerful leaders set aside their individual agendas and arrive at a consensus on global warming and other major issues at the conclave, there is hope of light for the world at large and sunshine into the faces of millions of people on this planet.

Thanking you.

Yours sincerely,
Pisipati Sriram,
Hyderabad,
Andhra Pradesh,
India.

13

Smokey0541,

Lakewood, Colorado U.S.A. 07/06/2007 06:21:36

#14 croman mac Nessa
Note the web address. SPP.gov GOV.
The government came out with this when WE THE PEOPLE found out what was happening. However there are so many holes in their B S story it makes me wonder what dummy wrote it. I can provide you with a tone of documents that confirm and prove what I have said. All you have to do is ask and give me an address to send them to you. E-Mail of course. I kid you not !!! We are in a terriable mess here in the states. Don't try to find out what is happening here through our media. They aren't reporting the major issues that have an effect on our lives. Remember this- - - - - Our media is controled now. And I was one of the first ones to find out about the SPP. AND I FOUND OUT FROM SCOTSMAN.COM.......When I confirmed the story. I got busy and sent it out to as many people as I could and got in touch with other than mainstream meadia people who released the story.

SPP.GOV is pure propaganda

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wisdom,

edinburgh 07/06/2007 22:34:28

G 8 Summit = a meeting of international gangsters,their toadies ,lackeys and also it seems of some well meaning and naive people


 

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