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Published Date: 08 July 2008
WHEN the leaders of the world's richest nations gathered at Gleneagles in 2005, they solemnly pledged to double aid to Africa by 2010 and tackle climate change.
Three years on, their mighty ambition and high rhetoric have been replaced by a series of broken promises.

Today, as the G8 leaders prepare to issue another communiqué on Africa, the expectation is that the landmark agreements made at the 2005 summit will be watered down. With most G8 countries facing pressures over an economic slowdown in their domestic markets, there is a temptation to divert budget resources away from issues that do not generally excite voters. Overseas aid is top of the list.

Only the UK and Japan have come close to maintaining the kind of aid budgets required to meet the Gleneagles targets.

Bob Geldof has described the G8 as a "contemptuous joke", after it was revealed to be only 14 per cent of the way towards hitting its target of providing an extra £12.5 billion in aid by 2010.

Yesterday, that kind of criticism came from within the luxury setting of the G8's gathering in Hokkaido.

Robert Zoellick, the head of the World Bank, warned that 100 million people could be pushed back into poverty unless the promised funds kept coming.

Ban Ki-moon, the secretary-general of the United Nations, made it clear the problems caused by the failure to increase aid had been compounded by the lack of action on global warming.

This meant droughts and floods had increased at a time when Africans were dying from a lack of food, medical care and the ability to help themselves out of poverty by trading with the rest of the world.

Mr Ban urged the G8 to send a strong political signal by setting a long-term goal of halving greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

He said: "We tend to think of climate change as something in the future. It is not. We see now, most of all in Africa, that drought and changing weather patterns are compounding the challenges we face in attaining the MDGs (millennium development goals]."

About the time of the Gleneagles gathering, Live Aid became Live8 and Geldof led marches in London and Scotland to "Make Poverty History".

The summit was quickly forgotten after it ended suddenly, following the terrorist attacks on London.

Third World debt was written off – although campaigners felt wealthy countries were hiding behind this, rather than committing themselves to spending new money on aid that could boost agriculture and educate children, as well as providing clean running water, sanitation and mosquito nets to help to eradicate malaria.

Then came the hard financial reality as a report from Geldof's Data organisation (Debt, Aids and Trade in Africa) was published. It said it was "deeply concerning" that only £1.5 billion of the additional £12.5 billion had been provided, despite half the five-year deadline having passed.

This was backed up by annual statistics from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development showing what wealthy nations were contributing to developing countries.

Much had been achieved with the money provided – the number of Africans on lifesaving Aids medication had risen from 50,000 in 2002 to 2.1 million last year, 59 million malaria nets had been distributed and 29 million African children are at school for the first time.

But the UK, which has recorded the biggest increase in spending of all the G8 countries, is almost £1.5 billion off its 2010 target of providing £3.55 billion a year to Africa by 2010. The UK's total aid budget to the whole world is due to hit £9 billion by 2010 – 0.56 per cent of national income.

The Gleneagles summit was meant to act as a wake-up call for the G8 nations, that the world was some way off hitting the United Nations' eight millennium development goals.

Set in 2000 and now endorsed by 190 countries, these include the aim to eradicate extreme poverty and hunger, achieve universal primary education, reduce child and maternal mortality.

But at this week's G8 summit, its leaders stand accused of "backtracking" on their financial promises to Africa. "If that money were on the ground, we estimate that five million lives a year would be saved," said Charles Abani, regional director for Oxfam in Nigeria.

However, Japan insists there has been no backtracking. "I don't understand the criticism," a Japanese foreign ministry spokesman said. "The G8 leaders are very aware of the commitments."

ZIMBABWE
Mugabe at forefront of talks and Bush hits out over 'sham' election


GEORGE Bush, the president of the United States, labelled Zimbabwe's election a sham yesterday, as G8 leaders began their annual summit.

Mr Bush, who backs United Nations' sanctions against Zimbabwe, urged the international community to find ways to punish Robert Mugabe, who is accused of using violence to win votes and quash political opposition in the 27 June presidential run-off.

"I care deeply about the people of Zimbabwe," Mr Bush said after the meeting African leaders. "I'm extremely disappointed in the elections, which I labelled a 'sham'."

Jakaya Kikwete, the president of Tanzania who is also head of the African Union, said African leaders shared the concerns, but might disagree with Mr Bush on the way forward. The AU has not backed sanctions. A UN Security Council resolution, drafted by the US and backed by Britain, would require nations to freeze the financial assets of Mr Mugabe and 11 of his officials, and to restrict their travel to within Zimbabwe.

The G8 met leaders from Algeria, Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria, Senegal, South Africa and Tanzania and the chairman of the African Union Commission.

Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, had earlier called for the G8 to send a strong message to Zimbabwe.

"I believe the G8 should send a strong message so as to ensure that democracy in Zimbabwe will be protected," Mr Brown was quoted as saying in a meeting with Yasuo Fukuda, the Japanese prime minister. A spokesman for Japan's foreign ministry said that Mr Fukuda responded by saying he was concerned about the situation in Zimbabwe and agreed that the G8 nations should send a message.

Zimbabwe has been condemned by the international community since Mr Mugabe, who has held power since its independence from Britain in 1980, was declared re-elected after a run-off in June in which he was the only candidate after the opposition withdrew.

The G8 foreign ministers, as well as the UN Security Council, issued statements last month deploring the situation in the African nation.

The AU summit issued a resolution last week calling for talks leading to a government of national unity in Zimbabwe.

RUSSIA
Moscow blamed by British spies for killing dissident, as Cold War refuses to die


THE Russian state backed the murder of Alexander Litvinenko, British security sources said last night, as President Dmitry Medvedev and Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, failed to break the ice in bilateral relations at the G8 summit.

With relations between the two countries at their lowest point since the Cold War, a senior security official said there were "very strong indications" the murder in London of the former KGB agent and Kremlin critic was "a state action".

Russia strongly denies state involvement in the killing and refuses to extradite to Britain Andrei Lugovoy, the former security guard accused of poisoning Mr Litvinenko in London almost two years ago.

Meanwhile at the G8 yesterday, Mr Medvedev and Mr Brown smiled and shook hands in Japan, praising great potential for Russian-British ties – but they made no progress in the thorny issues souring them.

However, the discussion between the two leaders has fuelled hopes it could ease a row over a £20 billion joint oil venture, TNK-BP, or problems for the British Council in Russia.

"The president proposed to focus on elevating relations to a normal level," Mr Medvedev's chief foreign policy adviser, Sergei Prikhodko, said.

"Brown outlined his own ideas about problems in bilateral ties, including the British Council, (and] some major oil companies," he added.

"Medvedev gave explanations and drew Brown's attention to the need to work out a long-term approach to co-operation."

Moscow and London established cordial ties after Vladimir Putin, Mr Medvedev's predecessor as Russian president, came to power in 2000.

But they soured as Russia accused Britain of harbouring the Kremlin's political foes including the self-exiled tycoon Boris Berezovsky.

"I raised all the difficult issues that have caused difficult relations between our two countries and caused us to question policies that have been pursued," Mr Brown said.

He added there were reasons for engagement with Moscow, saying: "There was common ground about what we do in the Middle East, what we do for Iran and how we can get Iran persuaded it's not in their interests to develop nuclear weapons."

RHIANNON EDWARD

Behind every powerful man … The women who sit alongside world leaders

Laura Bush, wife of US leader George W; Sarah Brown (Gordon); Laureen Harper (Canada's Stephen); Svetlana Medvedev (Russia's Dmitry), Margarida Sousa Uva Barroso (EC president Jose Manuel) and Kiyoko Fukuda (Jap
Laura Bush, wife of US leader George W; Sarah Brown (Gordon); Laureen Harper (Canada's Stephen); Svetlana Medvedev (Russia's Dmitry), Margarida Sousa Uva Barroso (EC president Jose Manuel) and Kiyoko Fukuda (Jap


G8 IN BRIEF

20,000-strong 'army' of security


JAPAN has called out more than 20,000 police officers, mobilised the coastguard and reportedly even conducted military flyovers in a security operation for the summit.

So fearful is the government that cities as far away as Tokyo have also been under tight security. "We have three policies: be visible, be ready and keep the pressure on," a senior police official told the public broadcaster, NHK.

Virtually no-one but the G8 leaders and their teams are being allowed anywhere near the summit venue, a secluded hot springs resort.

First ladies get the kettle on

FIRST ladies had fun with tea, sweets and kimonos as their husbands attended the summit, even if events were a little more low-key than they would have been had the eye-catching Carla Bruni, wife of France's Nicolas Sarkozy, attended.

Japan's first lady, Kiyoko Fukuda, performed a traditional tea ceremony, whipping bitter green tea with a short bamboo whisk and serving sweets made of arrowroot starch. The wives, including US First Lady Laura Bush and Britain's Sarah Brown, giggled as they made tea and served each other, awkwardly bowing and rotating the cups.

They also watched a model being dressed in a "junihitoe" kimono, usually reserved for royalty.

Fine dining for the rich man's club

THE leaders finished off an eight-course dinner last night.

Among the "amuse bouches" were corn stuffed with caviar and winterlily bulb and summer savoury, followed by a traditional fan tray loaded with delicacies such as kelp-flavoured cold Kyoto beef shabu-shabu and the exotic-sounding pick conger.

There was crab soup, salt-grilled bighand thornyhead and milk-fed lamb, and a selection of cheeses. It was all washed down with a selection of fine wines and champagne from France, California, Hungary and the host nation.

Leaders urged to focus on sanitation

INVESTING in sanitation is the single most effective way for the G8 countries to cut child deaths, a charity said last night.

Water Aid is lobbying the summit with a new report that says 40 per cent of the world's population lack basic sanitation – resulting in the deaths of more children than malaria, HIV/Aids and measles combined.

The charity says investment in sewers and water pipes give the greatest public health returns.

Water Aid wants world leaders, at the G8 Summit and in the Third World, to focus on sanitation, rather than respond to issues that get the most celebrity endorsements.

AID: WHO'S DOING WHAT

CANADA

2010 TARGET: US$1.5bn
2007 AID: $904m
CHANGE SINCE 2006: -$88m
COMMENTARY: Off-track to meet its target. Ties with Germany as second-best for quality of aid, but not doing enough to help Africa trade with the rest of the world.

FRANCE

2010 TARGET: $7.5bn
2007 AID: $2.8bn
CHANGE SINCE 2006: -$66m
COMMENTARY: Has moved its aim of spending 0.7 per cent of national wealth on third-world aid from 2012 to 2015.

GERMANY

2010 TARGET: $6.2bn
2007 AID: $2.7bn
CHANGE SINCE 2006: +$311m
COMMENTARY: Off-track despite significant increases in aid to sub-Saharan Africa. Leader on water and sanitation, but needs to do more on education.

ITALY

2010 TARGET: $4.8bn
2007 AID: $1.1bn
CHANGE SINCE 2006: +$417m
COMMENTARY: Commitment is hugely ambitious, but country is hugely off track. Needs to guarantee long-term commitment, not just one-off payments.

JAPAN

2010 TARGET: Did not agree
2007 AID: $1.1bn
CHANGE SINCE 2006: -$197m
COMMENTARY: Has very weak commitment to sub-Saharan Africa, with contributions falling year on year for past two years.

UK

2010 TARGET: $6.5bn
2007 AID: $3.6bn
CHANGE SINCE 2006: +$48m
COMMENTARY: Has increased its spending on aid to Africa more than any other G8 country. May miss 2010 target, but not by much.

US

2010 TARGET: $8.8bn
2007 AID: $5.4bn
CHANGE SINCE 2006: +$413m
COMMENTARY: Off-track, but likely to hit 2010 target according to future spending plans. Leader on tackling HIV/AIDS and malaria.

RUSSIA

2010 TARGET: zero. Did not make aid commitment at Gleneagles, but promised to cancel $11.3bn of debt.
2007 AID: $210m
CHANGE SINCE 2006: +$110m
COMMENTARY: Impossible to calculate how much of its aid is spent on Africa.

Source: 2008 DATA Report


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  • Last Updated: 08 July 2008 12:36 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The G8
 
1

Tris,

08/07/2008 00:17:36

Seems that they lied.... well, whats new? Sir Bob Geldorf was being generous in his condemnation of these self serving prats.

Anyway, after lecturing us on waste, it's reported that Brown hired a private jet from Texas to pick him up and take him to Tokyo. No waste there then. Apparently it only cost £500,000.

It seems his bottom wouldn't fit the kind of seat the rest of us have to travel in.

Then that dinner sounds like it wasn't exactly economical, with wines being flown in from Hungary and France. His bottom may not fit in the private jet on the way back if he keeps on eating for England like that.

Interesting too that the "first ladies" (how partronising is that?) had fun at our expense, giggling and rotating cups. I'm sure that was worth their air fares to us.

Japan's first lady is, by the way Hootsman, the empress, not Mrs Fukuda, and Sarah Brown is not England's first lady. The queen is.
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Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 08/07/2008 00:20:24
"Fine dining for the rich man's club

THE leaders finished off an eight-course dinner last night.

Among the "amuse bouches" were corn stuffed with caviar and winterlily bulb and summer savoury, followed by a traditional fan tray loaded with delicacies such as kelp-flavoured cold Kyoto beef shabu-shabu and the exotic-sounding pick conger.

There was crab soup, salt-grilled bighand thornyhead and milk-fed lamb, and a selection of cheeses. It was all washed down with a selection of fine wines and champagne from France, California, Hungary and the host nation."

I HOPE MR BROWN FINISHED EVERY LAST MORSEL AFTER HIS CALCULATED ATTACK ON US ABOUT THROWING TOO MUCH FOOD IN THE BIN.

I think he needs to do a bit more than that to ease the plight of people in the UK in the light of rising food, fuel, mortgage and energy prices. Remember, his last warning was not to push for a pay rise in the current climate. He seems to be good at telling and not very good at doing.

I hope the good people of Glasgow's East End take this into consideration before electing a new MP.

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 08/07/2008 00:32:02
High time we began starting getting news reports about the democracy in Africa and that uncorrupt governments are allowing all this aid to go to the people.
4

Saltireblue,

Out Here 08/07/2008 01:29:13
All future aid to Africa should be tied to a movement towards democracy and human rights, with a firm and aggressive timetable to achieve same.

The AU's feeble reaction to Mugabe and his army of thugs, is positive proof, if indeed further proof is required, that Africa as a continent has not progressed in these areas over the course of the last twenty years, but rather has regressed significantly to a point of being moribund.

After the hope that was South Africa and the leadership of Mandela, this nation, the flagship nation of sub-Sahara Africa, is led by a man who disavows any contemporary theory on the root cause of HIV AIDS, and also provides the cover for despots like Mugabe to wreak their vicious thuggery on its people.

No more money to any of them at any level until they all become answerable to the people pulling the purse strings. Failure to do this will result, inevitably, in sub-Saharan Africa becoming a dust bowl in the next twenty years!
5

weeshooie1,

Wollongong 08/07/2008 03:30:03
How come you never hear of any of the wealthy countries ascribing to the old adage 'Charity begins at home'? The way things are going globally, all of the wealthier nations will eventually be forced to look to the well-being of their own nationals.
6

!Ya basta!,

08/07/2008 04:22:46
Development is fundamentally a political issue, it's not only about helping poor people in a profitable way, so we shouldn't be surprised. In the West we have sham democracy and governments that primarily support business interests over those of its citizens and the needs of the environment. The examples are endless.

There are SO many things to do and so many fronts to fight on, direct action is necessary now to save lives. Support the global peace and justice movement (so called anti-capitalist movement by the Western media) and look not to G8 or to DAVOS but to the World Social Forum, this is where bottom-up real change in developing countries is going to come from. Of course it is not usually reported in our mainstream media. There are plenty of UK groups contributing to this movement, so if you are really interested in doing something, find out about it, join a group that appeals to you, and start to agitate for change at home.

Enough is enough.

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!Ya basta!,

08/07/2008 04:24:27
Sorry, error... it's only about helping poor people in a profitable way.....
8

Yann en Charente,

France 08/07/2008 04:44:47
Good for G8. Common sense at last. Quite why Africa is even on the agenda mystifies me. We all know that Africa is largely run by a bunch of corrupt autocrats with well filled Swiss bank accounts who couldn't care any less about those they 'lead'.

Africa has the potential to be as rich as to wants to be, but is too used to handouts for the small minded hoodlums in charge to divert to Zurich. They need to learn the hard way that there is a better way forward, one that requires them to wake up, smell the coffee and do it for themselves.
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t h e p u n d i t,

08/07/2008 05:01:52
hello
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Statsman,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 06:07:24
G8 = NWO trash.

I am sure their wives are all very nice and service their husbands very well on a sexual level. WTF does this have to do with their husbands ruining God's Earth?
11

Statsman,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 06:17:48
Brown is NWO filth. Brown agrees with people that want to murder us and make the survivors slaves. This is why he seems so alien. Britain hates NWO politics and an integrated undemocratic EU. We don't want one world government. Brown is simply an agent of treason.
12

fife runner,

08/07/2008 06:37:28
why give our hard earned cash to corrupt governments. high time it was linked to democracy. How much do the people actually see of the aid.
13

fife runner,

08/07/2008 06:39:26
#16 eh!? words like filth do not make for reasoned arguments.
14

JayJay,

Right here 08/07/2008 07:45:47
This bash allegedly cost £275m to set up and organise. Who knows what it cost in Gleneagles and elsewhere. And what is it for? T put on the stern, angry face de jour, wag the finger furiously, and say "someone ought to do something about this, it really, really is awful...yo Brown, pass they amuse bouches buddy".
I really find it hard to believe that Brown is delivering lectures on £1bn of food waste in the UK whilst participating in this costlt sham. And lets not even discuss his Government's record on p*ssing money against a wall!
These things certainly have moved on somewhat since Giscard D'estaing invited a few people round for a coffee!
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08/07/2008 08:36:36
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bluehead,

edinburgh 08/07/2008 08:47:38
when the so-called leaders of the various countries get together and enjoy themselves of the fat of the land,where no expense is spared food drink and transport,and where whooping it up is compulsary,this is the world today.
looking at a photo of them, with Gordon Brown in it.they look more like the cast for a Hammer horror film,what a pile!!!
17

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 09:21:31
It's a pity they can't forget about this knee-jerk fiction that is "climate change" and deal with the REAL problems the some parts of Arfica are experiencing.

It just goes to show how spineless, stupid, eager to jump on a bandwagon and prepared to listen to idiots the world leaders are. If I had my way I'd put them all on an old ship, tow it out into the middle of the Atlantic and open the sea cocks. That is all that this bunch of morons deserve.
18

Alan B,

08/07/2008 09:23:53
Trade rather than aid is a much better way. unfortunately the g8 summit was focused on aid due to the protectionist tendencies. France who give most overseas aid is one of the worst offenders.

Another thing in many ways it is up to europe to deal with. Japan focuses its aid on Asia, the US is involved in global issues. The EU by comparison is the neighbour of africa and also has some responsibility due to colonialism.

In the early 80s morrocco applied for membership of the eu. It was refused. While it is not in europe u have to ask why? The eu is a club that allows a group of countries within a geographic sphere to co-operate in economic matters for mutual benefit. It is also used to embed democracy in the member countries. eg spain after franco. By disallowing north african countries from joining we are not allowing them to join the rich club that will allow them to develop economically.

If we do take the view that the eu should only be for european countries then we should let them access to the single market and give them economic assistance using the current eu mechanisms.

The eu should work to deliver a prosperous and democractic north africa. From morrocco to egypt (including countries like algeria and lybia etc).
19

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 08/07/2008 09:34:48
Take a look at this amazing list of African dictators, who have robbed, tortured, beaten and murdered millions of their own people in the last 50 years:

http://www.socsci.flinders.edu.au/global/africa/marcroberts/body.htm

Stop ALL aid to any of these countries unless they can demonstrate:

Free elections
Free press
Free speech
Freedom of religion
Free Opposition
Habeas corpus
Basic human rights and freedoms

The UK cannot should not consider giving £9.6 billion to any of these swynes.
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M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State....... Coatbridge 08/07/2008 10:20:01

Basic human rights and freedoms ??? For all???
Let the "civilised society" we live in with obesity, waste and using extreme poverty wages to supplement our way of "life" carry on regardless of what we do to others ??
Let's juts kill them all, that would be more humane than starving the children and the aged; denying them medical aid and basically ruining the earth for our own survival
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 10:22:28
#25:

Yes, very idealist Tweedmouth... And very unworkable as well.

Western style democracy is not the way forward for every single country in the world. Many of these African nations are still under the influence of ancient tribal warfare---the kind of hate and loathing that would have made Northern Ireland in the 1970s look like a kids tea party.

You CANNOT and never will be able to deal with that kind of thing by being all pink and fluffy and putting on your liberal woolly jumper. They would simply over-run the country concerned and the situation would quickly descend into civil war, leading to even more brutality and bloodshed.

Many of the African leaders who by our standards are brutal and ride roughshod over human rights are actually keeping quite good control over their powder kegs of countries. Without them, all hell would break loose and we'd be back to the constant tribal wars and unrest of the 1800s.

If you want an example of what happens when you remove a "dictator" who doesn't come up to the standards of the west, look at Iraq. The mess there is absolutely unbelievable and is going to take a very long time to sort out---if it is ever able to be sorted out. When Saddam was still in power, the country was more or less stable.

Democracy is not necessarily a good thing. It only "kind of" works here because no-one has too much of an axe to grind and most of us support it. Meritocracy is a far better option all round.
22

Merchyboy,

08/07/2008 10:22:52

Excuse me but why the hell should we bail out these countries. We didn't tell them to bread like rats nor have unprotected sex and spread aids like wildfire. My mortgage has increased by 28% I look forward to the african union having a summit to help me out.

I think we have far bigger issues at home to be even considering chucking money in this black hole.
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 08/07/2008 10:31:08
"Bob Geldof has described the G8 as a "contemptuous joke", after it was revealed to be only 14 per cent of the way towards hitting its target of providing an extra £12.5 billion in aid by 2010."

Who does this degenerate to88er think he is? The only contemptuous joke around is that we were all up for sending $3.6bn to Africa in 2007 when we know that the vast majority of that will never touch the sides until it gets safely into the Swiss accounts of the despots that run the place? Do you remember agreeing to commit to $6.5bn by 2010? Are you finding it hard to fill your tank or pay your energy bills or mortgage?

On the principle that anything Geldof or Brown says is diametrically opposed to sound common sense and economic progress for all concerned including Africa, we should cease all aid until it can be soundly demonstrated that what is supplied is getting to the correct recipients and that there is evidence of progress towards democratic rule and an attempt to get population growth under control - otherwise nothing. That would concentrate minds. It's all very well sending aid but if it's going into an unreconstructed mess and more and more mouths are there to be fed with unsustainable agriculture in place, it's just a waste. No lessons are learned and the same old problem is replayed decade after decade.

The Broon admonition "let them eat cake, but less wastefully" has gone down like a lead balloon as the G8 dinner menu has emerged. Photos please of the waste that went on after that shindig.
24

hertscot,

08/07/2008 10:44:39
So the polititions lied, nevermind I am sure they will throw some scraps from the table.
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M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State..... Coatbridge 08/07/2008 10:57:58
#28
Because "we" the civilised West caused a lot of the problems;
we raped their countries during the imperialist age,
we provide weapons for the dictators we put in,
we offer them bank accounts for the plundered loot,
we put them up in our country when it suits us (forget the immigration authorities then)
we tax their commodities to us (so they get less) and subsidise our own good to them (so they can't compete)
then force extortionate loans for them to repay in order for them to exist
26

Gusto,

08/07/2008 11:16:56
I notice this paper also jumps on the insinuation bandwagon for a bit of misplaced Russia bashing:
"very strong indications" and "a state action".
Open and shut case of accusations in the face of no evidence and a bit of 50s style "old school tie" commie bashing. Been receiving massages from stones again have they?
27

AJ Fife,

08/07/2008 11:21:51
The wee Lemon Squeezy at the end of the 'ladies' photie looks a cheery wee soul, doesn't she?
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08/07/2008 11:25:40
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Paula,

08/07/2008 11:57:07
You could spend every penny in the world on Africa and it wouldn't solve the problems. It is an endless pit of aid being sent there, on the backs of Western guilt I presume, and until the politicals are sorted out it doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

The people with thank you for the grain and shelter you send and the next day the militia turn up and that is the end of that. Happens in too many countries to mention.

And as for Geldof and his like, the musicians can talk romantically of how many lives they have saved but don't tell me how to give money. Organisations like UNICEF do far more in helping countries from the inside out rather than making them dependents on Western wealth.
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Paula,

08/07/2008 11:58:49
And could somebody explain what has happened to Laureen Harper's legs in that photo - was she iced?
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elizabeth the first ,

08/07/2008 12:09:23
Well at least the UK are trying to adhere to their 2005 commitment,as for the other jokers in the G8 pact,quite frankly they couldn't give a damn.
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SIACK AND TIRED OF HIGH TAXES - TO FUND AFRICA ???,

Auckland 08/07/2008 12:11:03
AMAZING

All these rocket scientists in on place at one time to mend world problems but, it would seem they can not see the wood for the trees.

Africa wants wants wants BUT whilst tax payers from (so called) wealthy countries have to cough-up to pay for Africa’s mess , we are told that WE can save so many African lives by paying in $.

WHAT ARE THE RULERS IN AFRICA DOING?

THEY ARE BUSY KILLING ( right now in Zimbabwe)and we must feel guilty about it? Can somebody please tell these people to GET REAL.

I AM SICK OF THIS NONSENSE and being taxed to death to pay for Africa’s blood-thirsty ways and told I should feel guilty in the process whilst another image of a poverty stricken African child is in my face.

Then in the same breath the rulers ( Mad Bob) tell other countries to butt-out as it is not our business.

Seems like Africa wants it’s cake & eat it.

The cake bye the way costs $12.5 billion
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Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 08/07/2008 12:33:26
Africa is a lost cause. Send aid to Scotland instead.
34

elizabeth the first ,

08/07/2008 12:47:29
39. Guess you are a bit of a comedian! with everyone of it's 5 million inhabitants getting £1500 extra,Scotland is doing ok.
35

Itchy,

08/07/2008 15:30:10
19 Rulesbutnotrulers,Federation, not separation

"Britain has enough oil and food (potential) to be able to ignore global economic woes. Globalisation and free trade are making our problems worse. Some trade is desirable, but never this guddle we're now in"

Anti-capitalist drivel. I was right, you are a Fascist.
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Itchy,

Lochgelly 08/07/2008 15:31:03
The right amount of aid to Africa is zero. Governments should not expropriate money from the taxpayer to send it abroad to line the pockets of crooks, despots, Marxist-Leninists and Military governments.
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Itchy,

08/07/2008 15:33:56
#31
"Because "we" the civilised West caused a lot of the problems;
we raped their countries during the imperialist age,"

And they are now doing a great job of ruining their own countries.

#32 "bit of 50s style "old school tie" commie bashing. "

The poor commies, they only killed 100 million.
38

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 08/07/2008 15:46:24
Wow blogger's..... on another story Mr Mann got 34 years for trying to overthrow a government in Africa; sponsored by who? Big business from the West.... Even in Zimbabwe right now, the British investment is still going on folks, Big Balloon even referred to this.

The "real" world is that we in the West are not unaffected by what goes on in Africa; we are reaping the rewards of our intervention on grounds of greed.

And our response; in true educated fashion to our fellow human being is....get stuffed,.. let the young blacks die needlessly...unless of course they are coming to work in the NHS.

It's a great thing being in the enlightened Western culture, you know where we talk about human rights and dignity of the individual....... all with conditions of course..... such as being born in War torn Africa today or from a Historical point of view being born Jewish in Nazi Germany...

No luck eh.
39

Media 1,

cape town 08/07/2008 15:55:02
Bob Geldoff is such a moron. A failed musician who uses Africa to feed himself.
He is always banging on about how the rest of the world should be looking after Africa and never applauding the wealthy nations for being responsible enough to feed their own people.
Maybe Bob should begin pointing fingers at African leaders, maybe Bob should grow a pair of balls and openly state that Africa is a f0cking disgrace and that the rest of the world should wash its hands of the useless barstrds.
But no, not Bob! In his eyes Africa is some victim because as long as Africa is a victim he has a pay cheque.
I say give Africa nothing!
40

Merchyboy,

08/07/2008 19:45:32
I've a good idea get bob's daughter to kick her coke habit and send the saved cash to africa, problem solved.... or is her habit doing her bit for africa coz its from there?
41

Itchy,

08/07/2008 20:11:13
#44 "we are reaping the rewards of our intervention on grounds of greed"

So explain why Robert Mugabe launched war on his own countrymen a decade ago and has virtually wiped his economy out.
42

TheNim1,

SofFrance 08/07/2008 20:12:29
Do you really think the Western powers are giving because they feek guilty of the Imperialist past or because they are moved by the image of starving children. Some may genuinely feel they need to help but the reality is 'politics'. They continue to plough money in to reap benefits. They could take a hard stand because they know the money doesn't get to the poor and needy but they know that countries like China and to a lesser degree India are just waiting to move in ans but up all the mineral rights etc. As it is China is taking all that Africa can offer so it has already started and Western powers could be pumping money in for no reason.

It's all down to business.////
43

Evan Owen,

Snowdonia 08/07/2008 20:13:24
Charity begins at home. Bring it on.
44

Merchyboy,

08/07/2008 21:25:13
thenim1 - you and your froggy mates are 5 billion behind what you promised in cash i suggest you get you garlic soaked hands in those pockets son and go do some "reaping" as you put it.
45

TheNim1,

SofFrance 08/07/2008 22:57:43
50: Merchyboy

Are you for real? What are you tring to achieve by using terms like froggy and garlic soaked? Methinks ye just want to wind somebody up rather than have any form of proper debate.

If you have a point to make then do it otherwise help the world and save on electricity by swithing your pc off.
46

SIACK AND TIRED OF HIGH TAXES - TO FUND AFRICA ???,

Auckland 08/07/2008 23:20:02
Let’s get creative.

Solution to starving AFRICA!
As Zimbabwe was known as the breadbasket of Africa, instead of sending $12.5 billion, strike a deal with the African leaders to re-instate the desolate farms ( where working folk were chased out and the working farms given as – hand outs) in Zimbabwe.

Structure a deal where Mugabe and the other African dictators are “rewarded” for results based on a return - that is productivity – that is growth surely PLUS opportunity.

Structure the deal so that Africa can export quality food back to the G8 countries as food markets must be showing some of the best returns due to their (supposedly) uncontrollable price-hikes.

Surely some solution holding Africa responsible & accountable is the way forward instead of just hand-outs.

Perhaps the G8 have nothing better to do than create a dole system for the “African only” club.

One has only to look south of Zimbabwe to South Africa and see how the farmers there are already being targeted with brutal violence, perhaps Mbeki should be held accountable for increasing farming productivity rather than looking like a Zimbabwe in the making then they too (South Africa) will stand in the queue with their begging bowls stretched out for the “colonials” to drop their heavy taxes into – regardless of the genocides.

It all seems crazy when we left the UK years ago because the crime was getting out of control, we were told the country couldn’t afford to hire ( or increase pay) more police on the streets. Obviously the money is needed to feed Africa whilst they kill, murder, rape, steal, etc etc.

So, are we not setting precedence for OUR YOUTH and sending messages that violence, theft and corruption get rewarded?

Surely, $12.5 billion would be better spent on ensuring G8 countries are crime free which would invite ex-pats to return to their birth countries thus bringing the skills back.

We have criminals walking the streets in G8 countries because we are told there is
47

SIACK AND TIRED OF HIGH TAXES - TO FUND AFRICA ???,

Auckland 08/07/2008 23:24:02
Cont.........

We have criminals walking the streets in G8 countries because we are told there is no money to build more prisons (to accommodate the big screen TVs).

Send the criminals to work on farms in Zimbabwe, Mad Bob will offer them human rights , regardless of their skin colour.

Besides, my father, my grandfather fought in world wars, what were they for? So we can ignore the British poor and give to the African dictators, who continue their slaughters – unchallenged!
48

indune1,

Canada 09/07/2008 01:48:56

Decades of aid - billions of dollars of aid.

Decades of corruption.

Decades of waste.

Decades of refusing to acknowledge the obvious.

Decades of taking and accepting abuse from tyrants and criminals.

Minutes- just minutes - is all it takes to send a signal: No more. Sort it out yourselves; and when you do, let us know. Mugabe, Amin et al; you wanted independence and now the world realizes that you were/are incapable of running your own affairs in a democratic and efficient manner.

The fault lies within yourselves.
49

Gilmartin,

Philippines 09/07/2008 02:04:23
For every ton of food we send we should send 10 tons of condoms.
Never ceases to amaze me how so-called "poor" people think they can afford to have 7 or 8 children.
50

Trade-wind,

USA 09/07/2008 04:25:25
#55
That seem to be a problem everywhere! No color has a monopoly on this, but here we see that black people in general can't think of anything but getting laid. The men think they are all studs and the women are no better and will beg to be laid. I ***stress*** this is not each and every black, but the majority are sex crazed. I have been around enough of them and anyone else who has knows I am telling the truth. This also seems to be a problem in the land where our blacks ancesters came from. It may have something to do with the old fertility rites that tribes from the African
continent had as part of their worship. The statuary
of African art from far back in the archival records reflect this. They need to breed Like mink and leming.
Until you can get them over that bit of old thinking they are lost. It is not an education thing as our blacks are educated. I may be a genetic thing, in which case I see no hope it will change. They are bound to over populate even in the most sever famon you see pictures of babies no more than a few years and even some new born. They knew they were in this condition as it has been going on it seems forever. YEt they produce another mouth they cannot feed. I see no answer to this
if someone else does please tell it here I for one would welcome an idea.
51

Charles.D,

Johannesburg 09/07/2008 09:47:42
# 34,38,42,45,47.51. I second you all. It is good to see that there are some who understand Africa.
Lets be honest, if Bob Mugabe was a white, there would be no hesitation by the OAU in standing on his nuts.
52

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State..... Coatbridge 09/07/2008 10:09:05
#47
Using your analogy we should just have gassed the Jews after the 2nd world war then ??

Mugabe is being well looked afer by British business interests, it's the children who can't look after themselves who need help; most of the aid that goes in through the NGO's goes direct to the people, not the government bodies where the money is whisked away to accounts in London and Switzerland.

You are confusing the aid "promised" by the Government bodies to government bodies...which is corruptible in every way ...... as opposed to .....the aid raised by charities.

The two are completely different
53

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State....... Coatbridge 09/07/2008 10:10:07
"I suggest you are confusing" that is
54

Merchyboy,

09/07/2008 17:40:07
56 - i think you will find he was only saying we don't have to seek out troubles we have aplenty at home. My taxes should be spent getting our own house in order not proping up another countries down trodden, as sad as it sounds charity must start at home.

 

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