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Published Date: 02 May 2009
DONALD Dewar was on the verge of resigning over fears he had misled the Scottish Parliament during the ongoing row over the rising cost of the Holyrood building, it has emerged.

His former special adviser, David Whitton, now a Labour MSP, revealed the late First Minister was prepared to stand down and had to be persuaded to change his mind.

Mr Whitton said Mr Dewar would never have agreed to the actual £400 million-plus
cost of the Scottish Parliament building and said he would have been "horrified" at the final figure.

Next week marks the tenth anniversary of the first Scottish Parliament elections, which saw Mr Dewar become the first First Minister of Scotland.

Asked if the spiralling costs of the Holyrood building would have been the political downfall of the Labour leader, Mr Whitton said: "No, I don't think it would have been.

"He certainly didn't believe it should have cost as much as it did and I firmly believe he would have been horrified.

"If somebody had said to him on day one, you want a new building it will cost £400 million, he would have said 'forget it.'"

"There's no way he would have spent that kind of money on it and I can remember one very famous occasion where he believed he had misled parliament over the ongoing cost and was talking of resigning.

"That's how seriously he took those things," Mr Whitton said.

In an interview to be broadcast on Clyde 2 tomorrow, Mr Whitton recalls his time as Mr Dewar's advisor in the early years of devolution.

He added: "We were then told by the then permanent secretary there was a mistake in the number and the true figure was some £17 million more.

"And Donald, being the old-fashioned Westminster-type politician, believed if a minister misled parliament he should resign, and I had to talk him out of resigning. I said it wasn't your fault, you gave the information you believed to be correct."

"He sent a letter to Alex Salmond apologising for the error, as it was a question from Mr Salmond that caused the answer, and he then went back to parliament that afternoon to correct the statement," Mr Whitton said.





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1

Paesano,

02/05/2009 00:24:29
#1 well said, Dewar & Smith should feel quite insulted to be linked to this lot of incompetents!
2

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02/05/2009 00:36:53
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Scottish and Proud,

Glasgow 02/05/2009 00:37:23
* 3 John Smith yes ,absolutely ,the best PM we never had.
Dewar ,he was too weak a sycophant to Westminster .
Holyrood was built so that a shibboleth to Nationalism in the Royal High School Building would not happen.
He put Labour Party first like the rest of him and it cost us 400 million.
The royal high could have been built for less than the 40 million.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 01:27:04
Let the record show:

The will of the late Donald Dewar was publicised at the beginning of July 2001. Mr Dewar was revealed as a millionaire at the time of his death, with a shareholding worth nearly £1 million, three houses in Glasgow and Stirling worth in total £550,000, and an art and rare book collection worth another £450,000. *In life Mr Dewar had been a political opponent of privatisation, but his share portfolio included substantial holdings of the shares of privatised companies.* An "old Labour" friend of Mr Dewar was quoted as saying "Donald had hardly any furnishings in his house and, despite his good intentions, he didn't spend much on clothes. He often wore freebie ties." (Scotsman, 2/7/01). Mr Dewar bequeathed his estate to his two children.
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Dark Lochnagar,

http://darklochnagar.blogspot.com 02/05/2009 01:39:10
I remember getting off the London train in Glasgow and was surprised to see Donald Dewar getting out of First Class. I was surprised because he was always spouting socialist principles and I was surprised he had changed his convictions and sat his @rse in the plush seats. But I suddenly remembered that we were paying for it.
He then reverted to type by driving away in an old beat up Escort that was only held together by rust.
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Murray in Canada,

Salt Spring Island 02/05/2009 01:52:23
!! So it's Whitton you have to thank for persuading DD to keep on with his folly. But what's Whitton's opinion on the Parliament building? It seems to be impressive enough inside, though falling to bits every so often, but from the outside, it's totally awful. I can't believe that tourists admire it.
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Scottish and Proud,

Glasgow 02/05/2009 02:19:56
Dewar came from a very priveleged background .
He attended the Glasgow Academy one of the most expensive private schools in Uk never mind Scotland.
He died a miilionaire and we are to believe this man was a socialist?
He was a careerist like 99% of any Scot in the Labour Party.
The hype about him is reminescent of the things written in Communist countries about their glorious political leaders.
Father of the nation??? my erkie
governor general of our overlords more like.
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02/05/2009 03:26:47
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somerferg,

perth 02/05/2009 04:29:01

Nice one Black Douglas and Scottish and Proud. Dewar like the vast majority of Libourites was only in it so he could line his own pockets whilst all the time spouting socialist mumbo jumbo about being "one of the ordinary people". I had the misfortune to see him in action after a Glasgow by-election where he and his Libourites were beaten by a Nationalist candidate - NASTY, NASTY piece of work.
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W Smith,

Middle East 02/05/2009 04:47:36
#6 Vivas

Good post.

Socialism at its best.

Tony Benn also opposed privatisation but recently transferred shares to his son's name to avoid inheritance tax.

It seems you can't lead the "class war" against the rich unless you're sitting on large sums of money yourself.

Brilliant - in a devious socialist sort of way.

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donald,

glasgow 02/05/2009 06:12:24
Donald Dour was a Tory. His only chance of being elected in Glasgow was to wear a Tory Mark II shurt.
12

donald,

glasgow 02/05/2009 06:13:17
Labour United!
Defeats the Workers!
13

Bejjy,

Europe 02/05/2009 06:35:55
Of course Dewar was a wealthy man, most present day politicians with their inflated salaries, expense claims and pension pots are or will eventually be wealthy and all at the tax payers expense. And I hope that none of you commenting here believe that Salmond or any other SNP politician is not in the same mould afterall they are also politicians no different to any other.
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drew 33,

duddingston 02/05/2009 07:31:27
Donald was a typical Labour Tax and waster while feathering his own multi-millionaire nest egg.
15

Alexander,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 07:42:26
#16
Yes! He made sure none of his £3.25m was wasted on charity or good causes, it all went to found the family dynasty! After all why return anything to the mugs from whom it was "garnered".
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Curley Bill,

02/05/2009 08:07:13
#15 Beijy - my word, such cynicism in one so young.

Your view is a commonly held one and is due in no small part to the politics of the late T.Blair.
I for one do not believe that the majority - if not all - of the present Scottish Government - are cut from the same cloth as Dewar, Foulkes and all of Labour, Ming Campbell and his motley crew and Cameron's cohorts et al.
The SNP have beliefs and values and should not be judged alongside such thieving, lying unionist scum
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Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 02/05/2009 08:14:15
A whitewash job on Dewar, like this article, is badly needed Labour propaganda in the run-up to the election. The Holyrood project was totally superfluous, because a suitable historic building had already been converted to house the Scottish legislature at considerable expense. With this megalomaniac project Dewar was trying to regain the initiative on devolution for Labour as well as glorifying himself, after international diplomatic pressure had forced the Blair government to hold the referendum and restore the Scottish Parliament.

It is probable that Mr. Whitton will not even know what went on in the backstairs cabals of Downing Street before this authoritarian project was forced on the taxpayers without as much as asking the people's representatives in London or Edinburgh whether they even wanted a new parliament building. I know of no other state in the civilised world where this could or would happen. That is the real core issue - the expense is secondary.

There is no reason to put Donald Dewar on a pedestal, real or figurative. He was not a man of vision. He was a second-rate politician who went with the prevailing wind. That, and the necessity of keeping the enforced and (by labour) unwanted devolution project under Labour control, were the reasons for his actions on the "toytown parliament" (his words) in Edinburgh.

We will probably never get the truth of how the Holyrood project came to be initiated in Downing Street, but it is high time that the full facts on the devolution project were made public. Labour have been sitting on them far too long for party advantage. Meantime, see: http://www.realmofscotland.com/paper

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Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 02/05/2009 08:22:55
#19: It was the Council of Europe that forced the issue on parliaments for Scotland and Wales, not the European Union. The 47-member CoE is the senior European organisation, and has nothing whatever to do with the 27-member EU. This is a very common misconception, due to the ballyhoo surrounding the EU, but the fact is that the latter is only one of a number of major European organisations, and by far the smallest of them. Look up the www.realmofscotland.com reference above for the real facts on devolution insofar as they can be revealed at the moment.

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Toast,

02/05/2009 08:40:36
It was Dewars smoke and mirrors that caused the whole fiasco,calling him the "father of our Nation" is an insult to Scots everywhere,the man was a unionist through and through.
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Colin Wilson,

Aberdeen 02/05/2009 08:52:17
Let's also remember that Dewar once claimed publicly that Scotland "would be like Bangladesh" without the UK.
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Paddi,

02/05/2009 09:09:07
Historical revisionism at it's very worst. This man was set on making Holyrood a parliament where only one party would ever hold power and look what’s happened now? The Scottish people have woken up! He cared nothing of the costs, why should he? When he too was the recipient of vast sums of taxpayer’s money, for spouting tonnes of Co2.

He was no more than an apparatchik and a second rate one at that.
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 09:09:39
It is ironic that Donald Dewar, the author of the Scotland Act, should have considered resigning over the cost of Holyrood.

As for the dubious claim about constructing a legislature for the modest sum of £17 million?

A search of the online construction magazine Building
for the period from 1997 to 2003 shows that the Cost Models for buildings like new hotels, business centres, low and high office buildings, nursing homes, swimming pools, bus stations, and train terminals, averaged £9.5 million for small structures!

In 2000 a PFI building contract for the new Government GCHQ at Cheltenham was estimated at £337 million, but will now eventually cost £1.2 BILLION!

How on earth did the civil servants AND Donald Dewar
ever expect a new build parliament building to be costed at £17 million?

Could Mr Dewar's one time political advisor be attempting to revise history?
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Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 09:16:30
Dewar simply made a complete c**k up of the building of the eyesore that is supposed to be the Scottish Parliament building. The whole thing was based on completely unrealistic expectations bordering on a simple pack of lies to con the Scottish people. It is a hideous building anyway and will be knocked down in due course to be replaced by something more suitable on the old Royal High site where it should have been in the first place.
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Astonished,

02/05/2009 09:22:29
I deplore this re-writing of history. Dewar was a multi- millionaire, who pretended to be a socialist, and routinely lied to keep the people of Scotland in their place. He is rightly reviled by anyone with a modicum of sense.

Colin @24 - What is worse is that he knew he was lying when he made this ridiculous and dishonest claim. It was widely reported without question. I think every senior labour party member knew about the 'campaign of lies' regarding Scotland..... except 'alex the dalek' aka 'stan butler'. He didn't know then but he knows now.




As soon as yoiu understand how blatantly dishonest Dewar was it all makes sense. He thought it could be covered up.
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common sense voice,

02/05/2009 09:32:58
I always thought he was a closet queen myself... any romours?
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 09:52:33
The Scottish Parliament building, which has won over 20 design and architecture awards, including the 2005 Stirling Prize, will always be a controversial design.

Yet it is still considered to be amongst one of the finest public buildings ever designed. Holyrood is up amongst Norman Foster's Bundestag/Reichstag; Frank Lloyd Wright's Johnson Building; Richard Rogers Cardiff Assembly; Louis Khan's Dacca Assembly and Le Corbusier's Chandigarh Assembly.

Another interesting point is that a legislature at Holyrood, which is within a UNESCO World Heritage Site, can never be altered or removed!
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 02/05/2009 10:02:23
2 wardog

Actually it's worse than that. The original estimate was "between £10m and £40m".
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goldenayr,

Alba 02/05/2009 10:06:48
My late Father was an architect with Glasgow council.He used to say it cost over £1million to build a public toilet,that was in the seventies.
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alanh,

ek 02/05/2009 10:55:55
Do we have ANYTHING except this nu liebore, north brittian dept's, word that Dewar was "set to quit".

ANYTHING on any piece of paper that states that?

Nope just nu liebore, north brittian dept, trying to rewrite history and spin to try to make it look like it was some mysterious other person's fault?
Was D Dewar not the person who chose the site of the new parliament?
Was DD not the person who commissioned the architect for the new building?
Was DD and his party not the people that made all the changes that incurred extra costs to the plans?

Why does anyone care what a dead politician who WAS RESPONSIBLE may have thought privately at the time?
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Darien,

Panama 02/05/2009 11:01:18
""There's no way he would have spent that kind of money on it" (Whitton the spin man said)

This is the usual denial and spin from New Labour. On the contrary, £500m was spent on the parliament by Dewar and profligate New Labour. Dewar and New Labour were responsible for that and for many other wasteful schemes. New Labour were offered very good and lower cost alternatives (especially at Leith, by Forth Ports, next to Vic Quay), but they refused them. They and their civil servants did not care how much was spent, because it is not their money, its our taxpayer money.

The financial mess of UK 'plc' (sic) today is in large part a consequence of the profligate New Labour and Westminster approach to this and many other areas of public expenditure. They don't have a clue, as is reflected in the far more businesslike canny approach of the SNP Government.

An independent Scotland would make massive savings compared with Westminster spending today. Potential savings to Scotland include Scotland's share of Trident £3bn; lower cost Forth Bridge £2bn (compared with what New Labour wanted to spend; share of aircraft carriers £0.5bn; Edin trams £0.5bn; share of London Olympics £2bn; share of London underground etc £1bn; share of illegal wars £3bn; gain of North Sea oil £squillions; share of UK toxic debt - watch this space! Scotland is shortchanged by all the British Nationalist rabble - NewLabour, Tory or FibDums.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 02/05/2009 11:54:15
29 No after his wife left him for Derry Irvine he enjoyed a long relationship with Fiona Ross.

This may make me in a very small minority but I actually think the Scottish Parliament is quite a fantastic building and worth every penny, no matter how shambolically arrived at.
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redcliffe62,

02/05/2009 12:14:04
a labour politician prepared to resign over spending and lying to parliament. without being pushed? never happened before, but if he had done it then it would have been a first for labour, certainly in the last 30 years.
just means labour post 97 buy 98 aircraft instead of 100 over the next 5 years, a minor matter for them as long as they can stay in power eh?
this is spin, and therefore cr*p. whitton is talking cr*p again and the fact the building was more expensive was another typical balls up a la the glasgow mafia (lanarkshire red rosette branch)
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The west awake,

Argyll 02/05/2009 12:16:06
I see like me many people are not fooled by the "Saint Donald" campaign.
Dewar was a sellout, a yes man and a political coward.
His greatest shame was being the leader of the self-termed "fighting 50", - the sorriest bunch of Scots since the parcel o rogues.
The people soon renamed them more appropriately, - the feeble 50.
While Glasgow Council honours this nonentity with a statue in Buchanan St, a real Scottish fighter, John MacLean, a patriot and a real political fighter, is unheralded in his own city.
Unlike Dewar, MacLean did not die a millionaire, but in poverty of ill-health brought on from his struggles with the British state.

Dewar couldn't have laced MacLeans boots.


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Colin Wilson,

Aberdeen 02/05/2009 12:51:34
Re #37 : "While Glasgow Council honours this nonentity with a statue in Buchanan St..."

The status gets repeatedly vandalised though — not that I condone vandalism in any way, but am simply pointing out a fact.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 13:24:22
I personally find the regular traffic cone on his heid to be entirely fitting, awarding him the "dunce" status in death, that no-one in Scottish politics would have had the balls to award him with in his lifetime.
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Darien,

Panama 02/05/2009 14:04:43
#35 Observer: "This may make me in a very small minority but I actually think the Scottish Parliament is quite a fantastic building and worth every penny"

I should think you are indeed in a very very small minority there.
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 14:41:41
Yes, Donald Dewar's statue is regularly 'lampooned'
in typical Glaswegian fashion. I suspect Donald Dewar, who abhorred pomposity, might well have approved!

However, I cannot imagine a plethora of public statues of Margaret Thatcher in Scotland?

Each statue would have to be erected well beyond public reach, enclosed by high railings, or behind reinforced glass screens!
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Colin Wilson,

Aberdeen 02/05/2009 15:05:42
Re #35 and #40 : for a piece of modern architecture it's quite attractive, but it simply doesn't have the gravitas required of a parliament building.

After renormalisatiom, it'll serve well as an arts and cultural centre along the lines of London's South Bank. Meanwhile the restored Estates of Scotland can sit somewhere more central, such as Scone.
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 02/05/2009 17:12:46
I'm quite sure that Dewar had no intention of resigning over the escalating cost of the Holyrood buildings.

It was ample evidence if any were needed of the pomposity and self-importance of this second rate politician to a) commission a Spanish architect whose designs were known to be complex and in all liekklihood warning bells should have been sounding b) despite early warnings by the project manager that costs would go out of control and way beyond the £40M they had reached Dewar persisted c) he had "commissioned" a competition which produced the result he wanted.

The "father of the nation" was essentially trying to stop it being a nation by seeming to agree to a Scottish parliament but have it under the thumb of the UK parliament. He had all the elements of New Labour there - arrogance, presumption, ineptitude, inability to manage and a great propensity to spend others people's money freely and gather up a lot for himself in the process. If I could climb up on his statue I'd probably place a cone there myself!
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John B Dick,

Rothesay 02/05/2009 18:47:01
Donald Dewar's vision for a Home Rule parliament was complete by the time he was 17 years old. Better governance for Scotland was not his ultimate objective: he hoped it would be a model for the reform of Westminster.

Nothing that I now know about the Scottish Parliament except its use of the internet and the voting/speaking equipment is different from what he told me more than half a century ago.

Much of his wealth was inherited.
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Florence,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 22:26:57
8 MURRAY IN CANADA: It's he!!ish both inside and out.
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Florence,

Edinburgh 02/05/2009 22:49:04
35 OBSERVER: Who is Fiona Ross? Is she the late Willie Ross's daughter?
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Richard Lionheart,

03/05/2009 13:09:34
Good way to start a conspiracy theory. If Dewar was about to resign because he had mislead the Scottish people, who would have benefited from his premature demise?

Is it possible that this should now be investigated? Or is it just a load of baloney from a New Lie-bour MSP?
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 03/05/2009 16:33:06
Dewar was just one of the many Scottish Labour career politicians, just like Brown and his Darling and the bufoon who is 'speaker of the house', no need to do anything, safe seats, until recent SNP success, now facing oblivion from the voters who have woken up to the sleaze that is Scottish and GB Labour
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03/05/2009 22:48:41
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Brianwci,

28/09/2009 20:42:22
I didn't read the article, nor have I read the comments because when I see a headline like this I totally switch off.

The idea of a career politician like Dewar resigning on a matter of principle is laughable.

He may have thought he would be forced out as the massive costs rose because it was his insistence that a new Parliament be built instead of using the Old High School which was partly converted for the Parliament but which was too closely associated with a long running SNP campaign, but resign as a matter of principle.....don't make me laugh!

 

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