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Published Date: 13 October 2008
A BAD result, an infamous miss, and Scotland's World Cup hopes are hanging in the balance. Time for the players to show some solidarity, you might think. Time for them to back the management, show some defiance and say they can still make it to South Africa.
Not Kris Boyd. Instead of any of that distasteful positive stuff, the Rangers striker apparently thought the aftermath of Saturday's 0-0 draw with Norway was the time to flounce off and announce he would never play for Scotland again as long as George Burley is manager.

The rumours began hours after the match, and yesterday afternoon Boyd confirmed them. "I left a message on George Burley's phone (on Saturday] night and he hadn't got back to me," he said. "I didn't think just leaving a message was very professional, so I spoke with (Scottish Football Association chief executive] Gordon Smith and informed him of my decision. I will not be playing for George Burley again, but I hope to be back in a Scotland jersey again one day."

Burley reacted last night by saying he would treat Boyd's decision with "respect". A mixture of bemusement and contempt would have been a more understandable reaction, but to express those emotions would have accorded the fringe player's decision a greater level of attention than it deserves.

Smith said he hoped Boyd would reconsider. "If Kris Boyd is saying it's because of George Burley then that's unfortunate," the SFA official said.

"He didn't play yesterday, he didn't come on as a substitute, so maybe he has got upset. If Kris spent a bit more time thinking about it, he might have changed his mind. Maybe it was a quick reaction to how he feels."

That reaction, like Burley's, was a sensible line to take. But the SFA should now let the matter lie, and not prolong a debate which is sure to see some of Boyd's supporters clamouring for him to be restored to the squad – and on his own terms.

Had Boyd walked out on a serious point of principle, his decision might have deserved some respect. Had he quit at the end of a long qualifying campaign, or as a veteran who had fought long and hard for his country, there would have been no hard feelings.

So long, Kris, and thanks for all the goals, and the happy memories, and those times you made yourself available for meaningless friendlies because your commitment to the cause was so uncompromising. That could have been the reaction.

Instead, Boyd is calling a halt to his international career aged only 25. He has played for Scotland 15 times, and scored seven goals. He may well hope that in a year or two Burley will be gone and a new manager will rush to recall him, but there is no guarantee of that – and certainly his actions of this weekend will surely make any successor think twice before bringing him back.

So, coming towards what should be the peak years of his career, he is jeopardising the chance to play perhaps dozens of games at the highest level, and the possibility of being in the first Scotland squad since 1998 to qualify for the final stages of one of international football's two principal tournaments. And why? Because, it seems, he is not rated highly enough by Burley, and he has been frustrated by his lack of playing opportunities.

The frustration is understandable: every professional wants to be picked for the big games, and since Burley took over Boyd has seen only 28 minutes of action. But quitting the international scene is, self-evidently, not the way to end that frustration.

Granted, Boyd is not the only Scotland player to have decided to hang up his international boots. Lee McCulloch did the same only last month, and, while family reasons were offered for his decision, an unhappiness with the Burley regime may have played a part.

James McFadden was also frustrated with Burley on Saturday but has since backed down
James McFadden was also frustrated with Burley on Saturday but has since backed down
Yet, while we cannot exempt the manager of any blame for the discord within his squad, it remains the case that the vast majority of his players recognise he has a bigger picture to deal with and cannot pander to their individual feelings. James McFadden, for instance, was unhappy about being substituted ten minutes or so into the second half of the Norway match, but accepted the reasoning behind it.

"I was very disappointed," McFadden said. "I wanted to play as much as I could; I wanted to play the whole game. But the manager changed it, and in the end, it almost worked."

Boyd's supporters might counter that it would have worked had their man, not Chris Iwelumo, been introduced to the action in the second half. But that is a moot point, and even if conceded would hardly constitute a vindication of his actions.

By yesterday afternoon, player and coach had been in direct contact, and according to Burley there had been no mention of any other issue bar lack of playing time. "I've spoken with Kris and he told me that he was disappointed not to play on Saturday or in the last couple of matches," he stated. "He said that he did not want to be considered for future Scotland squads so that he can concentrate on his club career."

That explanation was either disingenuous or diplomatic, for Boyd certainly does not want to play only club football. He wants to play at the highest level, and apparently believes he deserves to do so. Making himself unavailable, however, is a strange way of trying to prove his case.

The truism states that all good strikers have to be selfish. Boyd has perhaps not understood that it refers to behaviour on the field of play, not off it.

Fans criticise 'yesterday's man'

KRIS Boyd's decision to quit Scotland has been condemned by the Tartan Army, who last night accused the striker of a lack of loyalty.

"The players have put us through so much misery over the years, but following Scotland is a series of highs and lows," said Hamish Husband, spokesman for the West of Scotland Tartan Army. "The Tartan Army always follows the team, and the players should show the same loyalty.

"I appreciate that Kris Boyd should have come on against Norway and that he would have scored the winner. But he has to suffer with the rest of us.

"He is one of the best strikers we have. But if you don't want to play for Scotland just leave – don't say it's because of George Burley; don't pretend you want to play and that you will play again in the future. We will have to wait and see whether Burley is the right man for the job, but whether he is upsetting players or not is not my concern. What I want to see is players who want to play for Scotland. Boyd is yesterday's man. We move on."

James McFadden started against Norway as a lone striker before Burley took the decision to throw Steven Fletcher and debutant Chris Iwelumo into the action, leaving Boyd on the bench. What followed was an open-goal miss from Iwelumo, as the hosts were forced to settle for a 0-0 draw.

"All Scotland wants is players who want to play for the jersey," added Husband. "From what I've seen of Chris Iwelumo, he is not the best centre-forward in the world – and we all know Boyd would have scored if he had come on. But after Boyd's statement today, I would take Chris Iwelumo over Boyd any time. More than 50,000 people believed that Boyd would have scored the winner. But if he doesn't want to play for the jersey, then no one is interested in him any more."

Lisa Gray

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  • Last Updated: 12 October 2008 11:32 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

James F,

East Ayr 13/10/2008 00:14:35
The SFA should make it quite clear to Kris Boyd that his services will no longer be required under any manager. The man has a cheek.
2

BEMUSED EXILE,

13/10/2008 00:18:37
I'll get in now, because there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of this thread lasting through the day ahead.

A poor and petulant decision by Kris, but that's all that there is to it. A few Celtic supporters on yesterday's thread which exposed this story have already tried to link it to a wider RFC conspiracy, but that's merely bitter OF mud-slinging in action; the very animal that tends to close threads like this.

Casting my mind back several years to the nineties, I remember a quite eloquent interview with David Robertson, who explained the frustration and sense of hopelessness he felt in travelling with the Scotland squad to far-flung, unglamorous corners of Europe, knowing in his heart that he had no chance whatsoever of seeing any playing time because Craig Brown had a blind spot for Tom Boyd in the left-back position, at a time when RFC were completely dominant in Scottish football and Robertson was a model of consistency as a tough tackling, attack minded defender par-excellence.

David spoke of the myriad plane and bus journeys, the time apart from his family, the effort of trying to give his all in training sessions while mentally resigned to the fact that his position in the team was already settled, and not in his favour.

I don't think that Kris should have thrown in the towel this easily, and it certainly reflects badly on him, but on one level I can sympathise and understand.
3

paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 00:29:18
His decision...timing and attitude stinks....

I guess he must have the same feelings towards Wattie....

He will get punted in January....
4

Lochinvar,

Edimbourg 13/10/2008 00:34:26
Manna from heaven for the west coast media mafia Kris? Interesting to see how those Daily Record journalists react after their "I quit 'cos of Burley" nonsense was shot down in flames and utterly exposed as he's-not-managed-the-old-firm (re McCulloch's retiral)... I heard the Burley interview on Radio Scotland this morning and was actually a bit (shocked isn't really the word) surprised at Burley's reference to Boyd needing to get into the Rangers team..Thought it was an unsophisticated answer to the question (Burley is too open and non media savvy) To my point.(AT LAST)...Kris Boyd I really rate you but you have spat the dummy big style KNOWING that you will be cosetted by the anti Burley elements... a man who quits at the first hurdle is someone we don't need. We missed a sitter yesterday, but I never thought it would have been overshadowed by such a glaring own goal...Mr Boyd you are a disgrace!
5

paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 00:34:46
It still stinks BTO....no matter how much you want to try and defend him....
6

jerrymanders,

13/10/2008 00:56:41
DESERTER
7

Helter Skelter,

13/10/2008 00:58:06
Mabey this was all displaced anger on the part of boyd...mabey the real reason for all this is the growing frustration that Champions Celtic are back on top of the league again after rearrangerz got pumped down at Love Street.

Boyd came on as a sub in that game and failed to score.
Shame.
8

jerrymanders,

13/10/2008 01:03:31
#11

A striker that is used to losing?
9

Harlem Tam,

13/10/2008 01:10:50
When it comes to Scotland, I don't care about club loyalties, so here is my tuppence worth.

I have to say I have every sympathy with Kris Boyd on this one. As a Scotland fan I was very angry at the tactics and then, when he had the chance to do something to change it, and get the goal we so desperately needed, he brings on two untried strikers.

Iwelumo's horrific miss just made me all the more angry, not so much at him, but at the manager for overlooking the one natural goalscorer. Boyd should have been introduced instead of either of the two who came on. If there is a problem with Boyd's attitude or discipline, and I have no reason to presume either, he should not have been in the squad. That he WAS in the squad means he should have been utilised when it was obvious we needed a genuine goal-getter up front.

Burley blew it and I am still seething at his intransigence. Bemused Exile makes a good case for Boyd's decision and I cannot disagree with that.

If I were Boyd I would have felt the very same. Burley will take us nowhere fast. Get rid of him now before it is too late.

Gutted.
10

Bring it Off,

UK 13/10/2008 01:27:54
Surely Gordon Brown can come in and save the team he is after all doing such a good job in all other aspects of our lives
11

the boxerman,

Toronto 13/10/2008 01:28:14
Close the door on the way out Krissie. Concentrate on Rangers getting the league back.
12

jerrymanders,

13/10/2008 01:33:28
#15

I always want Scotland to win. Boydchenko takes a hissy fit because he doesn't get on the park, and walks out on his Nation. And Scots on here defend that? He's not started that many games this season for his club either.

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Richardinho,

13/10/2008 01:47:41
'David spoke of the myriad plane and bus journeys, the time apart from his family, the effort of trying to give his all in training sessions while mentally resigned to the fact that his position in the team was already settled, and not in his favour.'

A player who is 'mentally resigned to not playing' is a player who should not be playing.
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13/10/2008 01:48:57
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Richardinho,

13/10/2008 01:52:48
#22 Not at Love Street last week. He came on in almost exactly the same situation-and didn't score. Who's to say he would have got into that position in the first place? I think playing Iwelumo was a mistake-but the manager has to be able to make the decisions without the added pressure of his players having hissy fits about them.
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ACE OF SPADES,

England 13/10/2008 01:57:02
After reading Roy Keanes book I can understand where Boyd's coming from regards playing for someone you have no respect for.
Burley will be gone sooner rather than later and Boyd will get his chance again.
#21 Never one to pass up the chance to have a dig at Rangers...pathetic.
#13 Tam respect is due for your post. There's nothing more infuriating than a manager doing things "his way" to prove a point.
I wonder if Mr Burley thinks he's proved his point today.
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Richardinho,

13/10/2008 02:22:42
#25 rangers don't come into it, Robertson's attitude-if that's what it was- was a disgrace. I wonder how rangers fans would feel about him if he'd had a similar attitude at rangers. Somehow I don't think they'd be too forgiving either if Boyd trys the same stunt on with the buns as he's done with Scotland.
18

JFD HIBEE,

san francisco 13/10/2008 02:23:56
LETS HEAR A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR HAMISH HUSBAND.MABYE WE SHOULD DRAW UP A SHORT LEET LIST NEW MANAGERIAL PROSPECTS AND HAVE MR BOYD GIVE HIS APPROVAL. TO MR BOYD I SAY THE JERSEY IS BIGGER THAN YOU. GET LOST.
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KingKenny,

13/10/2008 02:32:36
I hope Boyd early return International team. Walter Smith and Alex McLeish not regular use Boyd. I think He have big mistake.

Burley too. Chris Iwelumo is good guy and professional player, but Saturday game he need start or 70minute in is right, He play is fine but big mistake shoot, I think he felt nervous his first International game.


Scotland need Win every game, big difficult. I hope Boyd early retrun Interantional team. Burley think and try right Decision.

20

jamurai,

13/10/2008 02:35:21
Very disappointed in this decision. Yes I think he is right to feel extremely aggrieved with the situation,he should have been brought on, but if the man says he loves Scotland and playing for the national team then this no more than a case of throwing his toys out the pram. He can do nothing to help the country he "loves" now. I wonder when he's going to walk out on Rangers cos it seems he doesn't get much of a game there either...
21

Rancho Relaxo,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 02:40:24
There are 2 seperate issues here. Burley's tactics in the first half were awful and we created nothing. To hammer on all week about needing a win then playing one striker beggars belief. If he was going to play one up front, then surely that was the time to play Iwelumo in a similar style to Carew. Apart from his miss, the big man actually played ok and had the Norwegian defence thinking a bit more. He should take the flak for Burley's over cautious approach.

The other issue is Boyd. I don't necessarily have a problem with his decision but his timing could be better. It reeks of nothing more than a petulant dummy spit. All that nonsense about David Robertson listed above would have more relevance if this game hadn't been played in Glasgow. Is it really such a big deal to ask Boyd to sit on the bench at Hampden? He gets enough practice at his club. He needs to win regular starting football, then apologise to all involved, before playing for Scotland again. Until then, both parties are the losers.
22

Rancho Relaxo,

13/10/2008 02:46:49
I meant to say that Iwelumo Shouldn't take the blame.
23

Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 02:50:02
So, coming towards what should be the peak years of his career, he is jeopardising the chance to play perhaps dozens of games at the highest level...But not if the "manager" doesn't rate him and won't play him! Obviously you should sign for Hertz if you want to play for Scotland, Kris.
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Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 02:53:30
"All Scotland wants is players who want to play for the jersey,"
NO! NO! NO!
All this Scot wants is a team that can qualify for major tournaments and go on to do the nation proud.
25

Richardinho,

13/10/2008 02:57:57
Burley-doing his best in hard times

Boyd-disgrace.
26

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 13/10/2008 03:20:49
BTO

It doesnt matter whether Burley is the worst manager in the world. You cant have players refusing to play for a manager because he doesnt rate him. What would have happened if Wattie or Big Eck had still been manager because neither of these two rated him hihly enough to start either. Would he have refused to play for them also.

Do we keep sacking managers until we find one that rates Kris Boyd. In that case I think we would need to give the job to Kris Boyds Mum.

The SFA must be clear on this that Kris Boyd will never play for Scotland again regardless of who is manager. Anything less and Burley's position is terminally undermined.
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Richardinho,

13/10/2008 03:23:43
Don't believe in panickingjust because things get a bit difficult. In the cold light of day, a draw wasn't such a bad result-particularly given the chances they had. What we don't need is players going off on a huff. Boyd will now have to hope that Scotland don't qualify for the world cup cause if they do he will probably never play for Scotland again.
I'd have thought that after Iwelumo's miss, Boyd was odds on to getting back in the side anyway. What a dope.
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Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 13/10/2008 03:42:19
BTO

I cant agree or disagree with Burley's performance as Scotland manager as he's not had enough games and he's been unfortunate with injuries.

If he isnt good enough then he will be sacked but it shouldnt be because he didnt pick Kris Boyd. And if the next manager has any sense he will leave Boyd well alone.
29

Jaggy,

13/10/2008 04:03:00
I don't blame Boyd although I suspect there is more to this than we have been told. Fact is, Boyd's style only works in a certain kind of setup. He is a penalty box striker and needs a "system" designed to create chances in the box. Playing with a single striker will never work for him. So it was at Rangers and so it is at Scotland. As Scotland lack the quality to do much more than this then it is unlikely that Burley will ever play him.

That said, Burley is disingenious in his comments about Boyd playing for Rangers. Boyd has been getting starts and getting goals but Smith varies his formation according to who he is playing. In a better team with more quality in the attacking midfield role and more quality on the flanks, Boyd would get a lot more goals because that is what he does and he does it well.
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Curry Monster,

Ger Fan upset with Boyd 13/10/2008 04:17:03
My tuppence worth:

I thought Scotland were good on saturday, they were creative, always willing to attack, passed the ball around well, overall very good! We dominated, but we don't have great strikers, that's not Burley's fault. But I did see a new dawn. I was attracted to the style we played and was impressed. What's the The manager got the tactics correct. His selection was spot on, and within that Maloney was the star. We were just unlucky. Anyway, despite our climb up the rankings, I haven't seen Scotland play that well for a long time.
So what about Boyd? Well, what about him? He hasn't got a leg to stand on. He should feel privelaged to be playing for Rangers and Scotland, and should be willing to fight for his place in both teams. What young lad with half a brain would chuck that away? he just doesn't get it. A spoilt wee boy.
I hoep he rethinks his decision fast becuase if he doesn't he's throwing away what is potentially a great career. Wish I was in his shoes when I was 25.
I think we should get rid of him at Rangers. I don't want players without that fighting spirit in my team.
Burley, he is the man, I have no doubt he'll get the results and send us to South africa. He just needs the backing from the fans and the media at this time.Not doubters and deserters.
C'mon Scotland!!!!!!!!




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lonegersfan,

Hamilton NZ 13/10/2008 04:26:56
If gers kept players like buffle, boyd would be getting all the support hed need to score the goals
32

viking nz,

new zealand 13/10/2008 05:05:23
Seems that smithy is doing the same to him at rangers , when its so obvious he can put the ball in the net , may be he has jumped the gun to quickly or is there more to this than meets the eye .
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Footbal fan,

Dubai 13/10/2008 05:14:40
Seems to me that had Iwelumo scord with the chance he had, there would be no talk of Boyd quitting? From what I saw, Scotland's best period in the match coincided with the double substitution. Iwelumo and Fletcher made a significant impact and caused far greater concern to the Norwegian defence than had been there before. Tactically, then, I think Burley was spot-on and we would have been talking about the game in a completely different light had we won.

I think Boyd's comments after the event reflect very poorly on him as a footballer and as a man - he is gutless, will not fight for a place and sees himself above the others. Worse still, he is happy to kick a man while he is down!

Well, good luck to him. I think however, that this decision will have severe ramifications for his career at Ibrox - Walter Smith is not known for his patience with lazy players and I would be very surprised if he is still at Rangers come the end of the season .
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WBB,

Perth, WA 13/10/2008 05:17:30
I have an old fashion view on team selection. If a player is not regularly in a starting eleven line up for a first team then no way should he be selected for international duty.

Simple and end of. Boyd ain't and so in my view should not be in the Scottish squad. That goes for any player from any team.

In this case Boyd has spat the dummy so let him walk and let's move on.
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 13/10/2008 05:51:20
george {breti voigts } burley made an horrific decision to play twin strikers with one international cap and no internetional goals between them. boyd may well be a lazy player but at least he does score goals.
in any other country a manager making such a disasterous decision would not last long. if burley stays scotland risks once again becoming a laughing stock ranked somewhere in the 100s in world soccer.
soon andorra could beat them
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Regulator,

Edinburgh 13/10/2008 06:11:47
Can't argue with Boyds decision, although it does appear a bit petulant. We have to blood new caps, however in a game we have to win, I don't see this as being the right time to do it. Not many people who take an interest in football in Scotland will disagree that if you want a goal, Boyd is the man that will get it for you. If Burley wants to blood people during a game like this, I don't think I would want to be involved with him. The current squad are not performing for Burley the way they performed for Smith and McLeish, so perhaps it's not just Boyd who should not play again for Scotland whilst Burley is in charge. I didn't see the qualifiers, however the highlight so far is a 2-1 victory over Iceland with, according to the Scottish media, only Scott Brown performing. It looks like Burley is not the man for the job, however whether Boyd should get back in when a new man is appointed is another matter.
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WEE IBROX can u hear the celic sing NO NO,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 06:17:02
Boyd is a disgrace if he thinks he can decide which
Scotland manager he will play for no differet really to the celic player born in Scotland who now plays
for Ireland good ridence to both of them.
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Bosco Bhoy,

13/10/2008 06:44:58
What is pathetic is the odd Celtic fan slagging RFC in relation to the Boyd fiasco. What is equally pathetic is the odd Rangers fan trying to defend or explain Boyd actions just because he plays for their club.

But by far the most pathetic,immature petulant BS comes from Boyd who announces he wont play for Scotland again until the manager changes.
If it was a kid in the local under 12 team we would tell them to kop themselves on and get the head down and show the manager his worth.

Why any difference for Boyd?
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Bosco Bhoy,

13/10/2008 06:47:34
Sadly i fear this debate will just become a CFC/RFC shouting match over the hours but there is a bigger point here and its about modern day football players fullfilling their potential and accepting they are not in charge and they are part of a team.
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InTheBackPocket,

13/10/2008 07:26:12
Boyd is an absolute disgrace of a professional footballer and even less of a man.
We shouldn't be surprised; just like his club RFC, no class and certainly no dignity. I see BF has been sticking the boot in again, ne can eff off too.
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pelestan,

Alberta,Canada 13/10/2008 07:29:37
The spokesman for the Tartan Army says he is one of the best strikers we have,and yet the manager shows him nothing but disrespect playing him 28 minutes in total,,why bother bringing him onto the team when you have already made your mind up that he will not be playing,,,something very wrong with Burley,,I truly think that he has taken this from the Rangers management doing the same,with Boyd,I support him 100 PERCENT....
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alwaysalba,

13/10/2008 07:33:37
wrong decision Boydy, bad timing, took the point away from Burleys decision to use two uncapped players, why not put Boyd on with one of them, he is a six yard box player, did Burley do it to show he is strong, sadly his ego came back to haunt him and may have given us the opportunity to sit at home and watch another tournament on television. I think Iwelumo had not a bad game winning in the air a great deal and hopefully will prove to be better than his miss on Saturday.
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Paranoid John from Midlothian,

13/10/2008 07:47:49
Hey Boydy...we'll miss your workrate. Also, let me know what Sir David says when you tell him that you are refusing to play for Rangers under Smith...or is that different? If so, what is the difference?
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Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 13/10/2008 07:51:33
A decision made from the cot an maybe to hasty. I think Boyd should have come on. However if he did come on the run off the ball may have been different, players have different options so no guarantee the same chance would have come up. But Boyd should have been on.
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Stephen101,

But he is slow...and fat 13/10/2008 08:06:16
Why does Boyd not paint himself pink with big dots all over. We need a Mister Blobby to laugh at with all this financial crisis stuff going on.

If Boyd is so confident in his own ability, why not tell Walter who to put in the team on Saturday? Come on big man, let's hear you....
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PoltonPirate,

Bonnyrigg 13/10/2008 08:18:41
kris Boyd walks out on Scotland because Burley leaves him on the bench.I thought he would have been used to that every week in the SPL.
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harvey05,

eh 13/10/2008 08:21:58
Who does Boyd think he is? Van Basten!!!

Boyd is an average player, who's also lazy. He will take one chance in 4 or five.He probably wouldn't have missed the open goal. It's just that he would still have been jogging into the box when the cross came in, so it wouldn't have been a chance for him at all.
As for Burley....Well his tactics were mince. I didn't realise Carew could run so fast, or was it Caldwell and Weir are very slow?
Brown playing in a holding role? His game is getting up and down the park, making tackles and creating space for others. So Burley took him out of the game.
McFadden a lone c.fwd.Don't think so, he either plays wide or off the front man, so Burley took him out the game too.
Very disappointed!!!!!
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Rambo.the.Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/10/2008 08:28:01
Isn't it strange (maybe not) that a 'SCOTLAND STRIKER' story has, yet again, turned into a Weegie bigoted sectarian debate??????????????????

Anyway, as far as Scotland strikers is concerned, many years ago when John Robertson was a prolific scorer he was constantly overlooked in favour of the (then) vastly under-rated McCoist.

When Robbo finally got his few caps he scored regularly, but was suddenly dropped.

At that time when he was overlooked for the last time, Roxburgh chose to go with an injured and unfit Mo Johnston, publicly stating 'an unfit Maurice Johnston is better than no Maurice Johnston at all.'

Shame on all Scotland managers past and present who can't see past this 'must have worn green or blue jerseys to be good enough for Scotland' syndrome.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

13/10/2008 08:28:29
One man who will be very happy about Boyd's decision is Chris Iwelemo. It's taken a lot of the heat off him. Like a previous poster, I'd rather see 10 Iwelemos in the squad ho want to play for their country than one Kris Boyd. Good riddance and no wonder he can't even get a regular starting place with his club either if this is his attitude.

#64 Burley's tactics were mince to start with - 2 wide players and no-one to get on the end of crosses - but he changed it about and in the second half we threatened more. Why should we expect to beat Norway though? Their players have better pedigrees and are more dedicated as Boyd's behavious illustrates. Look how many of them leave their country at a young age and establish themselves in La Liga or the EPL or Serie A? In Scotland we get people like Maloney and Ferguson who get homesick after 2 seasons and run back to the OF as they can't cut it. Get rid of the Old Firm players and Scotland will do much better - at the very least we'll have a team to be proud of.
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The Equaliser,

13/10/2008 08:30:26
56 hand in a strangers back pocket

"I see BF has been sticking the boot in again, ne can eff off too"

Spoken like a true News of The World pundit.

The major problem for Scotland at the minute is Fergusons absence as we lack his experience at the highest level and the quality, awareness, drive and leadership he brings to the team.

It is far reaching in that others are effected as well such as D Fletcher who has been a pale shadow without BF beside him.

So why don't you take your own advice
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AngusB.,

Baghdad 13/10/2008 08:30:32
Regardless of what folk think of Burley and imo I thought Scotland were the better side, Boyd has no right to do what he has done. The guy should be barred from ever putting a Scotland jersey on. These are times when you need the boys to stick together, not have a wee tanty and leave a message on an answering machine - Grow up Boyd get back in the saddle and do your part to get us to South Africa!
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The Equaliser,

13/10/2008 08:34:25
66 GeorgeCowieOrWalterKiddin us on?,

"Get rid of the Old Firm players and Scotland will do much better - at the very least we'll have a team to be proud of".

Another delusional clown strikes again.

You'll be one of the nuggets that think the Hertz are doing well.

Scotland deserve better than your expectations.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

13/10/2008 08:41:45
#69 Mysterious withdrawals, injuries that never are, petty fits like this, never playing for Scotland the way they play for the OF - get rid of the lot of them. The OF are an anomaly. Without them Scottish football in general would be far better off - we'd have a competitive league and players who want to achieve more than just picking up a massive pay cheque for just the one tough game against Celtic/Rangers four times a year. As someone above said, if Boyd was still at Killie or anyone but Rangers/Celtic he'd be fighting for his place in the team.
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Will1875,

13/10/2008 08:41:57
Burley has not got what it takes. Get rid of him now.

As for Boyd, he's too lazy to be an international player. Players must track back and help out.

As with McCulloch, not great loss. I think Fletcher will be a better all round striker.
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Reasoned Debate,

13/10/2008 08:44:49
Most people would agree that it was Boyd who should haven come on. However, Burley was one shocking miss away from being the hero of the day (brave substitution and all that). Had Iwelumo scored, no one would be jumping up and down about Boyd. If he does not want to play, so be it. It's a pity because he is the most natural goalscorer we have. I take he will be quitting Rangers soon, as he does not get a game there either !
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 08:53:24
Everyone's behaviour since Saturday has been ridiculous and embarrassing. Had Iwemulmo simply fallen over and let the ball bounce in off his backside, we'd be sitting fairly pretty with six points and everyone would be praising the way Scotland ground out an ugly win in a difficult game. You can't in a million years blame the manager for a professional footballer being unable to convert an open goal from three yards, and had he done so the first half would have been forgotten.

Nevertheless, the WORST POSSIBLE position we're going to be in after Wednesday's games is two points off second place, with Macedonia and Iceland still to come to Hampden. Beating the Dutch to top the group was always a wildly optimistic notion, so having to make up two points in five games is hardly the impossible dream some complete idiots in the media are making it out to be.

As for Boyd, someone pick the poor wee lamb's toys up and put them back in his pram, eh? You can't give everyone a game, and Burley is entirely accurate in pointing out that the guy barely gets a kick for his club side at the moment, so he's entitled to pick the man who's playing regularly and in scoring form, regardless of the hindsight of that miss. Would Boyd even have bothered to run that far?

We are NOT out of contention for World Cup 2010, by a long long way, and for one of our players to worsen our chances with a childish tantrum is despicable, end of story. (Unless he was doing it out of the kindness of his heart to take the headlines away from Iwemulmo, I guess.) Even if there's bad blood between Boyd and the manager - and it sounds like there is - NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON he owes it to both his team-mates and the Scotland fans to make his announcement quietly in a few weeks when everyone's calmed down.
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imp artial,

13/10/2008 09:00:37
For what its worth, what we needed saturday was a penalty box predator alongside Faddy - not just for the missed chance, but for quite a few others in a packed penalty box. We have one, and he wasnt played. Maloney lost more balls than a blind ballboy. Brown not utilized. D.Fletcher all over the place. Thanks again to Gordon that we wernt trounced. Smith and Burly - safety first, old school, out of touch.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 09:02:59
#77 What do you care? You support Britain anyway, and England will be there to carry your flag, the Union Jack.
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Harlem Tam,

13/10/2008 09:11:09
BTO - Weir made a mistake which allowed Carew to run in on goal. Only Gary Caldwell's last-gasp tackle deflected his shot for a corner, although the ref gave a goal kick. So how you can say Weir didn't put a foot wrong is beyond me.

Scott Brown was man of the match, closely followed by Shaun Maloney.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 09:11:34
IMO Boyd SHOULD have been on as sub before Iwelumo.The rest,as they say,is history...

Now we have an unedifying situation where a player greets with his petulant lip trembling that he is not getting a game...Undermining the manager and the rest of the team at a time when unity is SO important.

Question for Mr Boyd....Since this scenario is similar to the one you face at club level..why havent you taken the same course of action there?

Can it be the rather large sum of money that goes ito your bank account every week...Surely not!

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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 09:14:09
#81 When did you become official post reviewer? You're just a rabid Unionist troll who's probably delighted to see Scotland in trouble, like so many Rangers fans.
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Bob M,

Rugby Park 13/10/2008 09:19:40
Gordon Smith: "If Kris spent a bit more time thinking about it, he might have changed his mind"

Unfortunately Gordon, thinking is not one of Kris' strengths.
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aljok.23,

the world 13/10/2008 09:21:41
And what's he gonna say to Walter Smith , the prima donna tw@t. With that attitude Boyd is not good enough for a Scotland Squad in tiddlywinks.
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Reasoned Debate,

13/10/2008 09:29:01
#84 Rev et al. Don't respond to BTO or his equally idiotic mate the pundit. They have no interest in Reasoned Debate. Their only interest is Rangers. They have no interest whatsoever in Scotland. Just look at his post at #77, that's not a statement of fact, that's his dearest wish !
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Alan B,

13/10/2008 09:32:27
What is it with Scotland that we have so many players that cannot be bothered with their country.

Boyds is a disgrace and throwing his dummy because he is simply not good enough to demand a start. He has even been dropped by Rangers recently.

The guy has the ability to do well but the attitude he showed here is the same attitute that will mean his career will no fulfill his potential.

When Smith refused to play him you can tell it is partly down to his stunt to undermine Le Guen.
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qohldr,

13/10/2008 09:32:39
I would see the point of any player making this decision if he was playing regular football for his team and being left on the bench at international level.
Boyd however is not playing regular football for his club so should not be surprised that a player who is was picked before he was to play.
Although he has scored 7 times for Scotland he did so in 5 games meaning that in the other 10 he did not so there is no guarantee that he would have scored in this game.
We have seen players miss sitters many times and Iwemulmo was unfortunate that he did so in his debut but that does not mean he should not play again, other than that miss he acquitted himself quite well.
There are times when a player may not wish to represent there country with good reason this is not one of those times.
Any player who thinks they are bigger than the jersey are deluded and do not deserve to wear the jersey and do should not be offered to again, Boyd fits into this category.
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 09:36:08
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Now you're on the wind up!
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Charlatan,

13/10/2008 09:38:20
#36

David Weir and Paul Hartley both began their international careers at Tynecastle. Oops, so did Gary Naysmith and Craig Gordon.

Apart from them, what's your point?
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Alan B,

13/10/2008 09:38:53
Burley made a mistake playing McFadden through the middle himself in 4-3-3 in the first half. With that formation McFadden should have been played wide right instead of Morrison.

While Iwelumo missed a sitter he won everthing in the air. A type of player scotland have not had for a long while.

If we were going to bring on Boyd it should have been instead of Fletcher rather than Iwelumo.

Do think Scotland atleast play better football that under the last 2 manager but are struggling to get goals.

Brown had his best game for Scotland.
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:42:37
#97 "no big job so few to pick from" and yet Boyd still cant get a game tells you all you need to know about the stupid boys attitude and what not only Burley but smith thinks of him poor lazy and more hassle than he is worth. No loss to Scotland good riddance
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:45:52
must have been a slip there BTO you said we when refering to Scotland better not let Pundit see that no manlove tonight for you
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Who?,

13/10/2008 09:46:07
Boyd has never been a regular for scotland. When Boyd was knocking them in for fun for rangers he was still never picked as first choice for scotland.

Now he is struggling to get 15 mins a game for rangers why should he then be an automatic for scotland? If other players are playing better in domestic football and scoring goals why should they play second best to Boyd?

I would be a bit worried if i were Boyd. At rangers thats PLG and WS who haven't rated him, for scotland both smith and burley haven't rated or trusted him enough to play him. Better players than Boyd have disappeared by the age of 27.

In January its down to the english championship as a sub, then in the summer league 1. Within 12 months he will be playing in the hungarian 3rd division giving interviews to the daily rangers about how its all worked out for the best.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 09:46:23
Boyd has every right to exercise his personal choice if this is how he sees fit.

The way in which he has done this stinks though in that he has stuck the boot into a beleagoured manager at a time when he least needs it. There are 6 months to go until the next game and, if this was his decision, he could have staged it better than in the immediate aftermath.

Also...as is evident, Boyd will NEVER be a first team pick at ReaRangers. "Walter" has been there 2 years and consistently left him out. If he wants to be a first team pick (which this decision seems to show he does),sooner or later, he will need to leave Ibrox.

With the pressure Burley is under, Boyd is likely to have been given a start for Scotland when he remains out the ReaRangers team.

How does this decision fit with his future choice of clubs and tx value.

Shot himself in the foot there.

I believe they call that a "Blighty" round Ibrox way.

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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 13/10/2008 09:47:05
ah the power of the media..radio scotland were talking about the fact the feel good factor had been lost by burley....then waxed lyrically about the (failed) euro campaign...now if my memory serves me right smith walked out just as the going was getting tough...and mcleish failed by losing to georgia away and italy at home...but the media presented this as a great acheivement,....burley they are slagging off..the parasites are a disgrace boyds drinking buddies in the media are all behind him suprise suprise...and as ive said i wonder whos side chick young will take in his dreadful bbc blog...xxx
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:49:25
BTO one of our best not according to Burley and Smith and as you keep telling everyone Smith knows his stuff yet he doesnt play him either so whats it to be Smith knows what he is doing or Boyd one of our best?
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Who?,

13/10/2008 09:52:55
#99 - your correct that Iwelumo is the type of player scotland have needed for years. Comparing Iwelumo to Boyd is daft as they are totally different type of players.

When faced with a choice of who to bring on Fletcher or Boyd you would always go with fletcher. Boyd has no attributes outside the box and with his lack of awarness its like playing with 10 men. Where as fletcher is actually a proper footballer who can pass, head, tackle and shoot.
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:55:57
nice one BTO as usual full of catty wee comments not got an answer to a proper question no problem will come back later once you have asked pundits advice and you can answer me then about Boyd or Smith
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AJ Fife,

13/10/2008 09:56:44
I used to have some sympathy with Boyd and his seemingly unfair treatment by managers! However, his petulant behaviour is a wee insight into what Mcleish, Smith and Burley have to deal with. He would do well to follow the example of Faddie, who is a true patriot and professional!

Scotland can do without this type of ego within the ranks. Plus, he looks angry ALL the time!!!!
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CBJambo,

13/10/2008 09:56:51
Will Boyd walk out on rangers next? He seldom gets off the bench there either!

Undoubtedly a talented goal poacher... but offers nothing else to his club or country and he comes across now as a spoilt wee lassie who has run off home greetin to his mum cos he wisnae picked!

His attitude to his country and manager sucks.He has been singled out by team mates to have the worst application in training and the laziest player in the squad. Talent only gets you so far... the rest is hard work and dedication. Boyd hasn't shown any... that is why he is a bench warmer!
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 13/10/2008 10:02:27
one would like to think that after the media monkeys get over their excitement of having boyds decision to batter burely with they will reflect on boyd and his dreadful record in major games for rangers...no appearance time in the last 5 old firm games ..3 starts in the last 21 european games for rangers...when will we see some questioning of those stats ...and hey ill reprint the bbc messageboard breakdown of boyds scoring record..
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 10:03:22
114....AJ

I tell you what.....there ain't anybody who can pull off that....angry....ugly.....dumb look that Boyd has!
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CBJambo,

13/10/2008 10:05:31
#117
I think that is exactly what he's shown himself to be.

And yes he will lose a lot... the respect of his team mates, other pros who can only wish they were talented enough to be in his shoes and most importantly the respect of a nation whom he has turned his back on!

One big Loser.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 10:05:49
Since Minty Moonbeams declared that Scotlands true shame was Obestity and Drugs, Kris Boyds stock has dropped considerably.

Maybe he still has some influence??
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 10:06:03
116....James

This is now the 2nd time Angry face Boyd has openly engaged against a manager.....

He will be punted in January....as I don't think Wattie has a lot of time for him...
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O sole mio,

Salford 13/10/2008 10:06:13
Couldn't agree more with the Tartan Army fellow. Boyd has shown a total lack of committment to his country. He should never play for us again.
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G,

dundy 13/10/2008 10:09:36
Boyd is a quitter....pure and simple.

Anyone with confidence in their ability and some guts would have stuck it out and served their country but BFB chucks the toys and walks...
Pity because he might have played in the upcoming games...especially once our chances of qualifying had gone and there was nothing to lose....
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Alan B,

13/10/2008 10:11:10
#bring them on

Boyd is a good goal scorer. But unless you are playing regularly for your club and playing well, you are not going to be guaranteed a start.

Do not think many people would put Boyd above McFadden for a start. And Burley has like Smith for Rangers favoured Miller in the previous games as McFadden partner.

While i would have rather pushed McFadden wide if we are starting with a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 which ever you want to define it. The question is can Boyd play through the middle himself.

Moving to a 4-4-2 in the second have Iwelumo was a decent shout by Burely as it gave us a target man. a target man that won nearly every high ball against a man mountain of a centre half.

I think Burley should have left McFadden on for about 10mins more to see how he got on with Iwelumo. Before bringing on either Boyd or Fletcher. Would probably have gone with Boyd myself instead of Fletcher as neither are really performing that well this season. Fletcher is the far better footballer and could end up the far better striker so it is quite a close call. As neither are really putting in the performances at the moment to demand a place. However you could see at half time Boyd was not interested.
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AJ Fife,

13/10/2008 10:11:27
paulmac,

He now has the look of a traitor about him! Maybe he feels this act will help clinch a place in the Ibrox first 11 and endear him to the ultra-unionist Rangers support.

I suspect this will all back fire on him at Rangers too. Even the Ibrox hordes don't like a sneak!
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CBJambo,

13/10/2008 10:11:51
#124
rubbish.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 10:12:04
#124 - a fallacy long since exposed.

Ask Lee McCulloch.

He played that card and then famously stood down from the hardline approach to give us a famous (if unused headline)

"Lee Cried As He Surrendered"

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MickyFinn,

Livingston 13/10/2008 10:13:06
Come on give Boyd a break at least it saves Walter pulling him out at every opportunity when the club comes first and he is only following Captain Baz stance of a player is bigger than a club or team
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InTheBackPocket,

13/10/2008 10:14:12
K. Boyd is a coward and a treacherous one at that.
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Monty_1,

DXB 13/10/2008 10:19:27
the rumours suggest boyd is just the first to walk away from Burleys team..Burley has come out and said boyd didnt get a game because he doesnt regularly play...Well why make D.Fletcher your captain, its not as though he gets in the Man Utd team every week..Why play Morrison - hadnt heard of him before Saturday, same goes for Iwelumo....At the end of the day the SFA have put their faith in the wrong man...Scotland were on the right track and pride had been brought back to the national squad...6 games with Burley and we are heading back to the good old days of "at least we tried".."they give it their all but just didnt have what it takes" and any other excuse you can find!!!
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MickyFinn,

Livingston 13/10/2008 10:19:36
bring them on -

a pint off what your on.....

BTG your havin a laff m8
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Strict Ivan Jellicoe,

Renfrew 13/10/2008 10:22:18
A manager you cannae manage and a team who cannae score! Donkeys led by donkeys!
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 10:22:36
BTO still waiting on your response to the question of which is right Walter for leaving Boyd out of Scotland and Rangers teams or Buckfast Boyd being one of our best? you have so much to say about nothing try some reasoned debate you may actually enjoy it
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 10:28:13
BTO...I Couldnt possibly comment....
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MickyFinn,

Livingston 13/10/2008 10:31:35
#150

Dunno we have a numpty in Gordon Smith and he is an ex Ger!!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 10:32:32
#151 Rorie...We are SOOOO much more refined here in God's green isle...Poteen is yer only man....
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Deano,

Sunny Scotland 13/10/2008 10:36:20
Kris Boyd - a bench warmer for club and country.

You won't be missed lad.
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MickyFinn,

Livingston 13/10/2008 10:37:52
#154

Potcheen or Poteen ?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 10:38:37
BTO...Yup, All in tatters,out of date and laughed at in the street by any sensible person...;@)
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 10:40:26
Mickie...shoud be "Poitin" with a Fada over the second "I" but was using the more anglisized pronunciation...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 10:42:28
Back in an hour...if the thread remains open...;@)
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argonaut,

east lothian 13/10/2008 10:44:36

boyd has a cheek, i wont play for scotland as long as burley is manager. its not for him to publically judge any aspect of the scotland set up - thats for smith and the SFA. if he has issues with burley then he keeps it to himself - it does not help scotland esp this early in a campaign.
most of the comments here would not have appeared had Iwelumo scored, any scotland manager deserves to see thru at least one campaign before the hounds are released on him. our group aint done n dusted yet - iceland are finished tho. be optimistic - and bye bye boyd - he dug the hole ..now he'l ly in it - truly !
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imp artial,

13/10/2008 10:46:29
I think Boyd's frustration comes from Smith. Score and you dont play. Burley says he prefers regular 1st team players. So why Maloney, Fletcher, Faddy, etc? They have not been regular players. Double standards cost us the game.
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 13/10/2008 10:58:21
#165. I think Boyd is MORE than entitled to give his opinions on the Scotland set-up, it is affecting his career after all isn't it?

Personally I don't care whether or not Boyd plays, however he has a right to speak up about not playing - just as any club player has a right to speak up about not getting into their club side.
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busbyfh,

13/10/2008 10:59:16
If Boyd had a tenth of the brains in his head that he has in his feet he would have delayed his decision.
By keeping schtum for a few days he would NOT have deflected the flak that would rightly have come Burleys way.
By opening his gob - Boyd has put the limelight on himself and done his nemesis a favour by writers and fans NOT jumping on the fact that even though Burley said he would have a team that played attractive attacking football - the clown went with 4 5 1 (only eejits called it a 4 3 3 )and utelised one man up top that is not a classic striker (needs to play off one ,and sometimes lie deep or even wide)
GB got this wrong - team selection and tactics..also Steven Fletcher on instead of Boyd ? No wonder the nasty looking Rangers boy was insulted.
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MickyFinn,

Livingston 13/10/2008 11:00:20
#167

True re Faddy, Fletcher is on the rotational merry go round and Maloney is just back to playing first team football.

Who do you suggest in place off them?
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Survivor Of Riots,

WMD - "Walters" Mantra's of Destruction 13/10/2008 11:00:30
ReaRangers collapse last season was pinned on "Walters" first mantra "Its OK To Fail Cos Yer Tired"

This season, he has gone walloping in with a new mantra - "Less Mair Games".

"Less Mair Games" seen ReaRangers pumped oot a Europe before the domestic season began, saw him slope off the park at Firhill having desperately tried to get ReaRangers out the league cup and now see's him pulling players out of national duty faster than a fund manager can get their shares out of HBOS.

(btw Sports Fans....did you all know "sash" poopac is in trouble with the Bosnian manager http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article4882783.ece. - shocking lack of national pride at Ipox)

"Walter" will be "Waltered" if he fails to win the league this season. His mantra`s will show no mercy to anyone who gets in his way.

Watch out for "Walters" mantra's of mass destruction.

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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 11:03:36
Off subject......

It was reported in a paper down here yesterday......that a Rumanian syndicate where looking at buying Rearrangers......

If that was to happen.......would Boyd stand a better chance of getting a regular start?
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 13/10/2008 11:04:09
#150. Are you for real? Tommy McLean? Aye, he is a pure dead brilliant manager! lol! Who is he managing now? I don't know who else he has managed apart from a disasterous spell at Hearts.

You seem to be suggesting that the SFA cannot appoint an ex-Rangers player to be manager due to opposition from Celtic fans. Maybe someone who has instant access to the records can tell us exactly how many Managers with connections to Rangers or Celtic have been Scotland manager.
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 11:12:50
170.....Rorie

BTO attended Maryhill all girls comprehensive.....

She was a corridor prefect...left school with no qualifications and fell pregnant to that hippy art teacher who was always chilled out on special fags...

Still she made a go of life and ended up gettin married.....3 times before deciding that men were not for her and went on one of those.....finding yersell travels.....which sadly is where she now finds herself...

In the land of the rising sun....lonely....confused and stripping 3 times a day!
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dude,

wishaw 13/10/2008 11:18:38
absolutely disgraceful from boyd, the man with a bigger ego than ronaldinho, who does he think he is, so he might have scored if on the park but he didnt get on the park cause he thinks he should be on from the start no matter what.

well boyd you have to earn your place and the way in which you have resignes just proves you are not up to the task, go see a shrink to help with the chip on your shoulder.

BTO have you been up all night wee man/wumin no school today but you have to sleep sometime
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 11:30:12
BTO

"Big day tomorrow"

Is it national Geisha day?
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Norman,

13/10/2008 11:34:58
He's a big baby, throwing the dummy out like that. Pathetic. He might have scored that chance, but maybe he's not getting picked for a reason. And it's also disrespectful to his fellow pros - Fletcher showed a lot more mobility than Boyd would have. Iwelumo looked alright.

Apart from that miss.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 11:35:29
#185 - in fairness, he does seem to be the male equivalent of Patsy out of absolutely fabulous.

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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 11:39:31
#189....you had a point until that post.

are you angry that the roach burned a hole in your trousers?
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 11:45:47
BTO.....phone her a cab....open the door and let her oot ffs.....

Crawling you say......have you pumped that rhyptnol into her again?
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darkhorse.,

13/10/2008 11:47:52
To my knowledge 4 managers ( McLeish, PLG, Smith and now Burley) have all questioned Boyd's attitude, preparation, lifestyle and fitness. That cannot be coincidence.

He has every right not to wish to play for Burley. He also has every right as an individual not to address his personal failings, which hold him back from being a better player at club or international level.

He will regret it though...in time, and probably when it's too late.

Only Kris Boyd can make a £400k striker into a £4m striker.
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InTheBackPocket,

13/10/2008 11:48:43
Boyd is a treacherous scumbag, a pathetic excuse of a footballer and a man. Away back to the pub ya waste of space.
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 13/10/2008 11:55:03
Calm down boys - it's only a game.

OK, Burley made tactical mistakes against Norway, but corrected them and but for a one in one hundred miss from big Chris he'd have got away with it.

We're not exactly over-endowed with players of the class of Baxter, Bremner, Law, Mackay and Souness these days; btw, does anyone agree, with every Scotland match he misses, Barry Ferguson looks a better player?

But, right now, we're on-course for the European play-offs, as we're one of the top eight second-placed teams. OK, things will change as the groups move on, but, we are far from out of things.

As for Boyd. Have a close look at his international record: he's scored seven goals in 16 internationals and while his goals per minutes on the park ratio is better than a goal very 90 minutes,he hasn't scored too many crucial goals.

He's scored one winning goal v South Africa; a couple of opening goals, Bulgaria and Georgia and one go-ahead goal (the goal which puts you into a lead you don't lose) against Bulgaria.

His seven goals have come against second or third-rate opponents: Bulgaria (2), Faroe Islands (2), Georgia, South Africa and Lithuania (1 each).

He hasn't scored against top-class opposition such as Italy or Ukraine.

The reality is, he's no great loss. He's typical of the modern Scottish-born Old Firm player, he's getting paid sums of money he could barely contemplate when starting out, for playing for his boyhood heroes.

He's generally playing against mince in a poor domestic league and he doesn't really need to work at the deficiencies in his game to get better.

He seems incapable of absorbing his club manager's message: "Son you're a lazy so-and-so who needs to work harder", but, because he's "a natural goal scorer" he gets forgiven by the Laptop Loyal.

Boyd's player was capable of geat things when playing in the juniors for Glenafton, but was a lazy one half wonder - his son is starting to look the same in the senior ranks.
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 11:57:53
Weeeeberty......jeeeeeesus you need to calm doon!

You're ranting so much....your grammar is all over the place....

Why would I want to use..."manmy names"?

You will find there are many who find Rearrangers unpalatable and through these threads throw a lot of banter around.....

One user name is just fine for me.....

Anyhow.....you keep in touch with yersell and let us know how you get on!
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 13/10/2008 11:57:56
Whoops!!!

In post 199, final paragraph: "Boyd's player" should read: "Boyd's father".

Sorry.
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 11:59:18
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Nurse.....NURSE!
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Bemused and above it all,

13/10/2008 11:59:29
Treacherous scumbag?
You need goals, so what as a manager do you do?
Macedonia, needed goals, didnt get any, no boyd.
Iceland, needed goals, scraped the result, could have scored a barrell load with a natural striker, no boyd.
Norway, needed goals, threw on TWO untried players, 1 missed a sitter that an amputee could have scored & guess what NO BOYD & NO GOALS.
Name any other national team which has a player with a goal every 2 games ratio at 25, but they dont play him? instead they name a boy who has potential but seems all hype, and a guy who has played throughout his carreer in the lower reaches, is as good as he is going to get and makes Van Vossen appear as though he can thread a ball through the eye of a needle.
Please anyone name any other country to do this?
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LyonHearts,

le teil 13/10/2008 12:00:31
I hope this starts a down-ward spiral in his career and Rangers sell him to Hearts in January!

We need a half decent striker!

MON SCOTLAND/THE HEARTS
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InTheBackPocket,

13/10/2008 12:00:33
WeeBerty u really want to stay of the drugs at the weekend as your head is clearly up your backside.

Justlike Boyd actually.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

13/10/2008 12:05:46
I reckon that Barry Ferguson will be the next player to quit under George Burley. Too man injuries, an exercise in prolonging his career etc.

The real issue is can Celtic win the SPL and also qualify for the World Cup ?

If we do miraculously qualify for the WC will the Rangers players return to the fold ?

It´s a difficult balancing act for the SFA. Mind you two years of not playing in Europe might be a consternation for them and they will be brought back and the SFA will apologise to them.
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Jambo-ree,

13/10/2008 12:06:00
Aw diddums. Toys out the pram time 'cos he can't get a game for his country. He can't even get a game for his own club FFS - doesn't that tell him anything?

Mind you, if he's looking for a change of scenery and a new challenge then he should come to us - we could do with a decent striker like him.
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paulmac,

Surrey 13/10/2008 12:06:27
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Right lads.......we've got another live wan here!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 12:09:06
Song moment for Boyd.....Tossup between The Smiths.."Please,Please,Let Me get what I Want,This Time" or Eric Crarmen..."All By Myself"...
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 12:10:07
Wee Bertie has the posting style of a follow follow/RST endorsed permarage e-mail campaign veteran.

Mind how you go with this one lads.

He might use capital letters again.

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InTheBackPocket,

13/10/2008 12:13:02
WeeBerty only if you stay off the goats...how do u stand the smell?

As for your paranoia on multiple ids:))) There's only one of me here in Holland! Get a grip of yourself scumbag.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 12:21:51
Thanks for the vote of confidence Magnum...Sadly I havent had a hair weave,aint perma-tanned,didnt have Darren Jackson on my books and cant fit my foot into my mouth qiute like Gordon....
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 12:21:53
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Lets be honest here......you're showing all the anger signs of small man syndrome...with a dysfunctional social disorder....

5' 4" as tall as you are wide...5 strands of hair on a balding heid....overwight by about 4 stone....severe halitosis....an IQ of about 70.....which borders on retardation....

Your partner from your civil wedding left you 5 years ago and your carer has not been in today to provide yer lunch....medication or take you to the toilet.....

All the classic signs that you should be on the Jeremy Kyle show!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 12:23:54
Hmnn Getting that ole Jack Em,Walters Blue and White Army feeling guys...Oh,and nice try at deflecting the topic away from BBB (BIG BABY BOYD)...
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

13/10/2008 12:30:18
I reckon Burley has made some serious tactical mistakes.

1) McFadden as lone striker

2) Not going 4-4-2 withBoyd coming on to partner McFadden


Not sure if boyd is making the correct decision, although I have every sympathy for him and I think anyone would. However, I suggest to him that these sort of decisions are made when a player really has tried his all and all hope is extinguished.

However, I think that if Boyd really had been giving his all, as a player for Rangers in training every day and lifestyle choices then he'd look a bot more like an athlete than he often does.
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 12:30:57
How any Rangers player puts themselves in the firing line of the Rangers hating Tranny Army is beyond me , C'mon big Kirk do the right thing and jack it in , these clowns in the see-you-jimmy wigs and bunnets will soon turn on you as well !!

They are becoming as embarrassing as the Celtic fans with there "We are the greatest fans in the world" and "Everyone loves us everywhere we go" rhetoric - in truth they are no better or worse than any other football supporters , in fact perhaps worse given their hatred towards players from one club in particular !!!

i know i'm not the only Rangers fan that feels this way and also totally alienated from the National side.


Finally , does anyone apart from me think Burley is mince and got the job on the back of 10 good games as Hearts Manager ??

I wager that he's not in this job this time next year - anyone care to take the bet ??
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Silence of the Yams,

13/10/2008 12:31:19
Why doesn't he also announce he's quitting the hu n, doesn't get a game there either! Idiot!
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Maroon tinted glasses,

13/10/2008 12:32:15
GOOD!

Boyd has a bad attitude and thinks he is a cert for a game just because he plays for scotlands shame!

Yes we could have done with him on the park but since he now wants to turn his back on his nation then the SFA should now turn round and tell he wont ever play for scotland again and he can now rott with the rest of the backstabbers from govan.

Do you think he has said the same thing to his backstabbing manager when he cant get a game there either.

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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 12:34:45
#231 - bigot
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Novafone,

13/10/2008 12:35:35
Kris,

If I were you I'd leave Scotland asap as nobody in the country likes or respects you any more.
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 12:39:29
#232 - my point proved beyond a doubt - didn't take long.
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Maroon tinted glasses,

13/10/2008 12:41:49
Smiler,

Who cares what you think!

i also dont think you should be trying to offer bets for anyone because if you lost it would cost you extra to send the payment (20p globe bottles) in the post.
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Rammers,

Scotland 13/10/2008 12:44:29
Personally, I think Boyd made the correct decision - if he couldn't get a game on Saturday, what is the point? I find the comments made by the 'Tartan army' quite amusing, I would be extremely angry with Burley and let him know it, not this blind faith that many seem to show towards Scotland. I was in Belgium in 2002, where we got put out and never went to the World Cup, yet the 'Tartan army' were cheering off the players who had underperformed and embarhed on a party! Burley was never the answer, and Scotland fans need to be more unforgiving when the team and manager do not produce the results.
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 12:44:49
Another superior thasn thou east-coaster , why don't you go back to watching Rugger or something old chap ??

Your response further vindicates the hatred shown by so-called Scotland supporters towards players from Rangers (and i think to a lesser degree Celtic players).

Maroon tinted glasses - i wonder why you have such staunch support for a guy who is completely and utterly lost as an International manager ???
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G,

dndy 13/10/2008 12:48:35
I was surprised and disappointed by this action.

Disappointed that he did not have the character to wait for his chance, which would have come soon, and surprised that he acted so quickly, which is uncharacteristic......
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 12:49:08
#211 "I reckon that Barry Ferguson will be the next player to quit under George Burley. Too man injuries, an exercise in prolonging his career etc."

Fingers crossed! I dread Barry Sideways being back for the crucial later games in the group.
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DonaldDon,

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Mr Boyd needs to grow up and fight for his place at Rangers. He's not getting a game so Burley can't really know if he is in form. I also hear he likes a lager or six - a professional athlete leaves his beer behind when he signs a contract, and dedicates himself to his sport, especially when he is getting paid the riches the rest of us would like to have for 90 minutes work a week.

However, and I say this grudgingly, he is the only natural goal poacher who qualifies for Scotland at the moment, and by crikey do we need a goal scorer at the moment. He needs to sit down with Burley and talk man to man and come up with a plan that will get him fitter, not fatter, and will lead to him getting back into the squad. We have a dearth of talent in front of goal anyway so if he can prove himself to be a man rather than a huffy wee boy then we might allow him to pull on the Scotland jersey again.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 12:50:17
Magnum..As a toper of some renown,I can see the benefits my knowledge in this field would bring to the National Team.

1:New shirt sponsorship deal with "Scotsmac","The Bam's Dram!"..Guaranteed to get the right fighting spirit within the squad.

2:A night in "Clatty Pat's" bonus scheme for the first scorer of a hat trick against Holland to encourage attacking play...

3:A "Get out of jail free" card to be used by the manager (of my choice) to combat the recent trend of players who,thinking (and I use that term,loosely)that they are better at picking the side than my manager will be given a swift kick in the erchie and told to STFU until HE decides who is best suited for the job on the field..And lastly..

4:A lifetime ban on "Flower of Scotland" at matches to be replaced with Dean Martin singing "Little old wine drinker,me..."

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Rosscobhoy,

13/10/2008 12:52:54
Few things here.

1. Burley got it wrong, should have started with Iwelumo or Boyd or Fletcher in the middle. To play 4-3-3 with 3 wingers up front was Criminal.

2. Iwelumo had a good game other than the miss. Though he held the ball up well, played some decent knock downs and looked as good as anyone else out there, Scott Brown apart.

3. Boyd should hang his head in shame. While i can understand why he feels the way he does, he has done it the wrong way. Heaping more pressure on the manager and the players who still want to play is unacceptable. He has done it as he knows the press will take his side. Any player who walks out on his country should not be allowed to return. If you can't put Scotland before your own ego then you don't deserve to get picked. Boyd is an excellent finisher and should be a starter but he doesn't deserve it now. Hope he never plays for Scotland again.
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 12:53:02
#242

A few folk in my work members of the TA , strangely though not a season ticket for any club between them !!! , even stranger is that 3 of them played Rugger as youths and have never kicked a round ball !!!!!


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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 12:55:18
#244 - again , proves my point about hatred towards RFC players - Scotland have been lost in the middle of the park without him , anyone who fails to see that is beyond me.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 12:59:50
#Bertie,bertie,bertie...Calm down...As we know,you cant put a 5 amp fuse in a 15 amp plug so watch you dont do yourself a mischief...
As for your comment,If you read the first sentence of point 3,you will note that I say a A manager of my choice...That being who I feel would be best at the job...NOt the present incubment.Got that? Gooooood!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 13:03:23
Oh,and Bertram....Just for the record,I thought Burley got it wrong re Boyd (see my post at #83) but dont let that stop you shooting yer gub aff...
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 13:06:38
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I'm a bluenose as well mate but calm doon FFS !!!!
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:08:54
We need to put this "next to quit" competition to bed.

FIFA guidelines are that you cannot quit international football without the consent of the FA involved.

Sanctions are available to the SFA to take action against the player (regardless of team) who decides to make himself unavailable. This would mean the application of the 5 day rule, rendering the player ineligible for te 5 days after the international game he was selected to play in.

The Bosnian FA are considering taking such action against continued non-appearance of Sasha Papac due to his "falling out" with the Bosnian manager.

The SFA should be taking similar considerations.

To overlook this would be a failure of their responsibility to ensure that they serve the overall betterment of the Scottish Game.

The SFA could not survive such a public humiliation.
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Bertie...Bad week to give up the glue sniffing,eh?
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 13:12:34
#260

Whilst i don't dispute your facts with regard to this rule - i think it could easily be overcome as it would be an infringement of the players human rights - being banned for refusing to play by invitation only ???

Thats like your work docking you wages for not playing for the works team !!!!
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13/10/2008 13:13:43
Wee Bertie must be Celtic fan ripping the pi$$
If not you gers fans must be cringing.

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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:14:16
#253 - lets go through this then shall we. Scotland managers (chronologically) since the death of Jock Stein, go through these and analyse if Rangers Men, or at least Rangers leanings:

Alex Ferguson
Andy Roxburgh
Craig Brown
Bertie Vogts
"Walter"
Alex McLeish
George Burley

With the exception of Roxburgh and Vogts, whom I would declare "neutral", i think that the bulk of them fit into the Rangers Man/Rangers Leanings category.

So, what exactly is the point you are making?
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 13:17:44
#265

another example of the in-built RFC hatred of the Tranny Army.

Wish i had my fishing rod today as there are a lot of biters !!!!
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Maroon tinted glasses,

13/10/2008 13:18:27
239, smiler

You seem to make assumtions that i like Burley! I think the guy is a donkey and shouldnt be in charge of the scotland squad, Yes boo hoo boyd should have got a game BUT he didnt so now its bye bye boyd he is acting like a spoilt brat so GOOD RIDDANCE!

241, Watty smith is a backstabbing tw@t, he turned his back on the national squad to run back and kiss murrays boabby! Is that clear enough for you!

242, wee berty, It would do us all a favour if the OF supporters did f**k off as neither team wants to play in scotland and are only as big as they are due to religous hatered, Both sets of supporters seem to thrive in this and this is why a large section of the support comes from ireland waiving their red hand/tricolour garbage and singing songs of a war that happend hundreds of years ago in a different country.


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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:19:29
#260 - there are numeroues FIFA/UEFA edicts which are legally challengable.

If you consider Bosman etc..

Difficulty is that UEFA now have a rule that any FA which has a member club in legal dispute with their rulings, they are banned from all FIFA and UEFA competitions.

Happened in Portugal a couple of seasons back and Benfica and the rest of the Portuguese contingent were on the verge of a Champs League ban.

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Donner,

austin 13/10/2008 13:20:32
Surely to win a game you need to score more goals that the other team! You don't go for a draw in a "massive" home game. Boyd has predatory skills that are not coachable. You can coach a kid to pass, defend and run about like a chicken without a head. You cannot coach the "je-ne-sais-quoi" that Boyd has! Coaches don't like that! I am a Rangers fan but without Boyd we would have won NOTHING last season. Sad to say, Boyd needs to leave Rangers to get a regular game at some other team where he can bang in the goals! After hitting your head against a brick wall for a while it is nice to stop and walk away! Mind you, Greaves, McCoist and Gerd Muller were all given the same treatment. Final thought, after Rangers transformed Jim Forrest into a "football" player, he suddenly lost his goalscoring touch. Go figure.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:21:26
Smiler, I think you ill find that my post is a retort to some headbanger stating that there are not enough "Rangers" men in the current set up.

I haven't even included Terry Butcher of Gordon Smith.

What other Rangers men do you see missing from the set up who would add value...or do you (like me) disagree with the assertion?
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 13:23:15
Yes i did make assumptions about your allegiance to Burley - can you ever forgive me.

But here is one i'm completely correct in - a complete and utter hatred of all things from the West (Glasgiow in particular) and not just the OF that is all too common in some from Edina - i think it's some kind of complex that i'm sure could be helped out with a wee sail doon the watter on the Waverly !!! ;-)
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13/10/2008 13:24:34
This is totally gaye!
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 13:26:44
#271 -if you read my posts you will see my point is about the fans not the set-up , in my opinion there is a large anti-anything Rangers who play for Scotland group within the Tartan Army.

Kirk will be next i guarantee !!!

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Alan B,

13/10/2008 13:27:24
#The Smiler

So you as a Rangers supporter feel alienated from the Scottish team becuase the previous 2 ex managers were Rangers managers. Smith the guy chosing the managers is an ex Ger. And Butcher the assistant ex Captain.
And some get caps which they would not get if they did not play for the OF. That really makes alot of sense.

Also from what I have seen many of those that go to Scotland games support Rangers. Probably more so that any other club.


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in Edinburgh, stealing your women and jobs 13/10/2008 13:27:34
By spitting out the dummy like he has, Boyd has proven himself to be a daft, whining little nugget - you lot really won't suffer for his departure from the international scene. Question: assuming that a change of manager takes place in the near future, would you really contemplate giving the sulking turncoat a welcome back into the role of a national footballing representative?
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Alan B,

13/10/2008 13:28:46
#The Smiler

Kirks has had a lot more support from the Scotland fans than he did last year from Rangers fans.
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A Jambo come rain or shine,

13/10/2008 13:28:59
#239 And yet another west coast "chip on my shoulder" poster stereotyping people from Edinburgh. I don't have a hatred for anyone that plays for Scotland. However anyone that ditches their country won't get any respect from me. Boyd is a disgrace - end of. All those backing him are Rangers fans who can't see his negative side. I actually though Burley might have started him but he didn't so he has to bite the bullet and get on with it. How can you say Burley is "completely and utterly lost in internationl management" after 3 competitive games? 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss?!?? It takes time for managers to get a team playing their way but you've hung, drawn and quartered him already - why? Anti East coast connection perhaps?
#242 Another blinkered west coaster who thinks they are better than the rest of us. You don't keep us alive you arrogant t&at! I would be absolutely delighted if both Celtic & Rangers went elsewhere be it England or abroad. You sponge off us, take all our good players, make a mess of our cities when you come and play here and are generally a pain in the a&se. Go away, we'll have a highly competitive league in which any of 4/5 teams could win the league. Crowds would be up at every ground and it would be great for the Scottish game. Please leave - i'll help pack your bags.
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

13/10/2008 13:29:37
267 - Maroon filled ear-lugs?

"singing songs of a war that happend hundreds of years ago in a different country."

Having heard the same nonsense sung by Hearts Loyal(ist) fans on far too many occasions, I hope your willing to condemn them as well. It would only be fair, wouldnt it?
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neil7908,

13/10/2008 13:30:19
To everyone whos having a go at Burley, who else would you have in the job? How many viable candidates are out there with skill and experience who would take it?

The fact that the last two managers walked out for at what were average jobs at best shows how poorly the position of manager of scotland is viewed. Theres no way guys like Moyes or Ferguson would go near it, so where are the other quality managers who would be keen on taking over from burley?
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

13/10/2008 13:33:11
272 - Its an inferiority complex dress up as a superiorotu complex. It's a very complex complex indeed.

Like a small guy in platform shoes deriding someone for being a shortass and hoping they dont realise hes wearing flared trousers for a reason!

Granton, Sighthill, Niddrie, Muirhouse....the list of hsame rolls on!
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13/10/2008 13:34:49
272 once again you seem to make assumtions, what makes you think i am from the east coast, Either way i think you will find its much bigger than just people from edinburgh who have a dislike for the OF so maybe its you who has the "everyone hates us" issues.


nobody like us
everybody hates us
i think i'll go and eat worms!
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13/10/2008 13:35:20
283 - list of shame (surely)...I have some shame myself, I learned to type in Edinburgh!
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

13/10/2008 13:37:03
284 - put salt on them first and they will wriggle. It will make them taste better and its fun trying to catch them in that state. Its one of those genuine WIN-WIN situations in life!
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:37:28
Magnum Oplus - you wouldn't get Dalglish off the golf course for the gig. Souness is an abject failure as a manager and WGS is heading down the 9IAR route at Mighty Celtic.

I wont take your bait on the other comments, but will leave you with a quote from Willie Maley which now embroidered on the strips of Mighty Celtic.

“It’s not the creed nor nationality that counts. It’s the man himself,”

ReaRangers would have as much right to put that on their shirts as they do puttng on the 5 starts which represents 50 years of failing to win the European Cup.

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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:37:57
8 stars of course
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The Smiler,

13/10/2008 13:39:23
#279

GB from Ayr so no Anti-East-Coast bias.

International level - Macedonia , Iceland and Norway ???? 1 win , 1 loss and 1 defeat ???

still see your not interested in taking my bet though ???
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Pattie O'Dores,

13/10/2008 13:39:40
On Sky Sports News this morning Barry Ferguson is quoted as being sympathetic to Kris Boyd's decision to quit the Scottish national side. This is a shocking commentary from Scotland's captain in supporting the defection of one of his club colleagues from the national side particularly since another (Lee McCulloch) did exactly the same just a couple of weeks ago. Ferguson also stated in the same interview that he was considering his own international future. So there we have it, ''Walter'' then McCulloch then Boyd and now possibly Ferguson all turning their backs on Scotland. And they claim that there is no Rangers conspiracy!
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

13/10/2008 13:40:22
They have no stars!
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Maroon tinted glasses,

13/10/2008 13:42:14
281 YES i will, i think its a disgrace that some sections of the hearts support jump on the very same bandwagon as those from the govan slums and when i hear them singing those songs i feel disgusted.
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

13/10/2008 13:42:16
291 - Can a couple of dafties deciding to do the same thing be called a "conspiracy" with all its connotations of planning and subterfuge?

Probably in the loosest sense of the word!
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13/10/2008 13:44:08
293 - Appreciated!

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canamalar,

13/10/2008 13:45:49
rarely read so much drivel, boyd is a traitor, simple as that, he was chosen to play for his country, even when he cannot hold down a first team place for his club. He had the opportunity to impress the manager in training, obviously he continued with the same output he gives his club in training, hence not picked. The chance to play for his country he has refused and worse uis trying to upset what cohesion is there. TRAITOR, should never be offered the jersey again.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 13:46:55
Where is Philip the Good when you need a "livener"?
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:49:19
298 - his stuffed carcass sits nicely beside my window.

adds character to the room
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 13:51:40
Damn...Such great entertainment value....I mourn his passing...
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Invisible,

13/10/2008 13:52:33
I think that Boyd's a tremendous player and I've never understood why he gets left out so often when we're needing to get a goal. However, I think his actions here are appalling. I'd kill for the chance to play for Scotland, and if there was even a tiny glimmer that I'd be asked to get off the bench and play the last 20 seconds of a game, I'd travel all over the world with them for as long as it took, and I'd work bloody hard to make sure the management had to give me my chance. No way would I ever "retire" until they dragged me out kicking and screaming.

I can understand him having the knock about being overlooked, but he should just have gritted his teeth and got on with it. What kind of Scotland fan can he be if he'll let a personality clash prevent him playing for his country?

I wonder if he made his decision in the heat of the moment - basically a tantrum - and is now regretting it? If so, he needs to stand up and apologise PDQ and admit he overreacted. Otherwise he should never play for Scotland again.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 13:57:07
BTO - as long as you don't say that sentence in a Japanese accent.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 13:59:45
New Tribute band set up in honour of Kris Boyd....

"The Beached Boyds" new single,entitled "Fun,Fun,Fun,Til my gaffer takes the Ten shirt away..." will be out in time for the Kristmas (;@))market

Paul Gambaccini is 73
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Maroon tinted glasses,

13/10/2008 14:18:15
PLOP

Oh the penny has just dropped!

The reason why watty and the cockjocks are soooooooo anti scotland recently is because of the sfa's refusal to extend the league until rangers won it last season!!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 14:20:36
Anyhoo...To echo the edict from Mr Boyd,"I'm Off and I wont be back! Not until you say Puleeze....."

Later guys!
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The Sentry,

Waiting for Molloy 13/10/2008 14:21:44
Boyd chucked it because he knew Molloy was a coward and didn't want to represent a country that spawned such a fairy
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Who?,

13/10/2008 14:26:44
Some very poor comments on this board.

Burley doesn't have such a bad record - 1 defeat (macadonia away in 35c heat & a goal from a dodgy free kick) 1 win (iceland away) and 1 draw (norway at home- norway have mostly the better players).

As for Boyd he is no loss at all. He can't get in the rangers team and nowhere near the scotland team. I doubt whether he would get a game for macadonia, norway, holland even iceland who all have far better forward players. In the GPL Boyds goal to chances ratio is poor as demonstrated against st mirren. If Boyd is such a good player why has he not been used in the last 5 OF games? Why has he only started 3 or 23 CL games? Why have the last 3 rangers managers failed to trust him on the big occassion- why have all 3 been furious about his work ethic and his attitude in training?

Norway were the better team on saturday because they have the better players who play at better clubs. That is not Burleys fault. Nor is it Burleys fault one half of the wegi media wanted Burns while the other half wanted souness.
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Teary Ennui,

13/10/2008 14:27:04
Boyd has a good scoring record for Scotland, he has scored quite a few goals in Cup finals, etc. It's a pity he has decided not to play for Burley but Burley didn't seem keen to pick him anyway so we must move on. Burley has made some gaffes but he will stand or fall on results and these haven't been good enough so far. There was a fine line between failure and success on Saturday but that's often the way it is. "Nearly" or "if only" or "he'd have scored it the other 99 times out of 100" won't get you qualification and won't save your job.
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Invisible,

13/10/2008 14:36:33
Actual, Burley's 99 times out of 100" comment amused me, as it petty much proves people's point: maybe the fact he missed this one was beause he was thrown on for his international debut in a vital WC qualifier and was suffering from nerves!

It's a shame, as he looks like he could be a good player for us. He should have got his debut in a friendly, and then the pressure would have been off him...
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A Jambo come rain or shine,

13/10/2008 14:43:24
#290 Indeed, Ayrshire born but managed Hearts and you seem to have an issue with the East coast so i'm making that connection. I've never seen any manager get touted for the sack so quickly by so many after only 3 games in charge!
Didn't see your bet so can't comment - let me know though. I'm always interested in making money!
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frisnit,

Dundee 13/10/2008 15:31:14
Oh boohoo Kris, try getting a regular start for your club team before you think about expecting one for the national team. What a spoiled little child, the only one it will affect is him - Idiot!
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 13/10/2008 17:39:14
The bairn ie Boyde has thrown the dolly out of his pram, it might have been a football but he doesnt have one. If he had a brain he would be dangerous, should have thought before he opened his big trap.
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Norman,

13/10/2008 21:26:01
Wee Berty - gie's peace you paranoid android!


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