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Freeland plays sympathy card for refs insisting 'criticism must be justified'



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Published Date: 17 May 2008
ALAN Freeland has made a few mistakes in his time, as he is the first to admit. As he contemplates his imminent retirement, however, he is more convinced than ever that becoming a referee was not one of them.

Having turned 47 earlier this year, the Aberdonian accountant officially steps down from the Scottish Football Association's roster of match officials at the end of next month.

In practice, however, he has just two more appointments to keep – t
his afternoon, when he takes charge of the league game between Kilmarnock and Falkirk, and next Saturday, when he is the fourth official at the Scottish Cup final between Queen of the South and Rangers.

Contrary to the belief held by some fans that referees only take up the whistle because they are authoritarian types who like ordering others about, Freeland is adamant that he and his colleagues are motivated primarily by a love of football.

That affection for the game, and the knowledge of the need for fair play if it is to retain any credibility, are two of the principal reasons he is convinced that referees are innocent of the most serious charges laid at their doors.

In recent seasons, the single most serious accusation is that which has called the integrity of match officials into question. Whether they are directly accused of favouring a particular team or simply said to have been influenced more passively, it amounts to the same thing: they are not adjudicating fairly.

Freeland has himself been the subject of similar criticisms in the past, though it is his colleague Mike McCurry who has most recently been targeted. In last week's league match between Rangers and Dundee United, McCurry turned down a strong United penalty claim and disallowed a goal for the same side which should have stood.

Craig Levein, the United manager, asked if there was any point in his team turning up to play at Ibrox if such allegedly biased decisions were made, and pundits and spectators up and down the land happily weighed in with accusations of pro-Rangers bias.

In this case and in all the others he has witnessed, however, Freeland remains certain that any wrong decisions were the result of human error, and that such error, while regrettable, can never be eliminated.

When we meet, the question is put to him in unambiguous terms: Has he ever had any doubts about the integrity of match officials? His answer, similarly, leaves no room for misunderstanding.

"Certainly not. Never. Never in my career have I seen anything that made me feel 'He's done that deliberately'."

While some spectators may think that the standard of refereeing in Scottish football is lower than it was, Freeland believes the opposite. Standards are higher in many ways, and it is simply the greater publicity given to the sport that can make it seem like bigger errors are being made.

"There's no doubt the game is faster than when I started, but I would say I'm fitter now, in real terms, than I was at 20. We look after our bodies so much better. We're more aware of what and when to eat and drink. And we do a lot more recovery work after games as well.

"There's certainly more pressure (on us], but that's from having more TV cameras there and every angle being covered.

"What we do feel as a group is that there are too many parties criticising us, it appears, just for the sake of it. The damage is done once they've spoken about it. Very often when we review things, referees are proved correct. And we don't really see any retractions in the papers or on radio or TV.

"We've got no problem with criticism when it's correct. We can learn and improve. But it's got to be justified. People think we don't care. But it matters to us immensely.

"Having your name and face all over the back pages – with the big headline of BLUNDER REF or whatever – nobody likes to see that. When managers criticise you publicly, and it becomes very personal, a lot of it is unjustified.

"Yes, every referee makes mistakes, but that doesn't give managers the right to come out and say some of the things they've said.

"Referees do go back and review games, and we now have The Whistleblower on the SFA website, so we can admit to our mistakes or try to explain why we got something wrong.

"I don't know of any referee who goes into a game hoping they make a mistake. That (suggestion] can be quite hurtful."

Indeed, while he refrains from singling out individuals for criticism, Freeland believes that managers and players in general should take a stronger interest in the laws of the game, and that when they criticise officials they often do so from a position of relative ignorance.

"Over the years the SFA will pull together referees to have a pre-season meeting," Freeland notes.

"They have invited managers to attend those meetings, and the lack of managers appearing at them is disturbing. I don't know whether they don't want to understand. We're very happy to meet up with them.

"How many players and managers know the laws of the game? In any line of business, you've got to know what the rules are."

For Freeland the best indicator of the state of Scottish refereeing is how it is regarded throughout Uefa. He accepts that there may be times when we have no outstanding match officials, just as there may be fallow spells when the country fails to produce any world-class players. But he is adamant that the SFA is doing everything in its power to raise the standards.

"I believe that Scottish referees are well respected within European football. We have a number of young referees coming through, which augurs well for the future.

"There will be a period when there's a wee lull. Whether that's the case now I wouldn't say. It's a young man's game. There are younger referees coming into the game, so if all of us oldies are clogging up the top they'd never get the opportunity to come through."

The retirement age has come down in recent seasons, having been set at 50 not so long ago, so Freeland is calling it a day sooner than he would have expected to do a few years back. And, for all the hassle involved in officiating nowadays, he will be sad to go.

"I couldn't ask for a better way to bow out than in the Scottish Cup final. That really will be a dream come true. The difference for me will come in July or August when everybody else is getting ready to get going again.

"It's not so bad now when everyone is looking forward to a break, but come the start of the season I'm going to say 'Why am I not getting appointments for friendlies?'"

Besides the forthcoming showpiece occasion at Hampden, the highlights in Freeland's refereeing career have included being on the FIFA list for five years, taking charge of his first SPL game, and also refereeing abroad for the first time.

Looking beyond his own achievements, however, he is happy to reminisce about some of the great players he has seen.

"I had a great admiration for Willie Miller, who was a great leader on the park. I admire skilful players, and remember that when Mark McGhee played for Aberdeen the ball seemed to stick to his feet.

"Then there was Brian Laudrup. He was a fantastic player for Rangers and I was fortunate enough to be on the same park as him. Henrik Larsson at Celtic was excellent too, and I also admired Chris Sutton – I sent him off in his first game at Celtic Park, but he had a great work-rate."

When it comes to assessing managers, Freeland is careful to refrain from singling anyone out for adverse comment. Instead, he prefers to mention two who exemplify how it should be done.

"I found George Burley, when he was at Hearts, (was a good example]. He controlled himself, which is something that European managers are generally better at doing – Scottish managers can be quite exuberant.

"George would ask you a question, then if you gave him a reasonable response he would accept it and move on. That's the way it should be.

"I also found Alex McLeish as a manager to be a level above a lot of others. I always found him very good to work with."

As the fourth official next week at Hampden, Freeland should have a relatively low-key conclusion to his officiating career.

His last game as the man in the middle today, though, is likely to be a bit different: even if he does nothing to wind up the Kilmarnock or Falkirk fans, some friends of his are travelling south to ensure he does not get to stride off into the sunset without a few last gobfuls of grief.

"There's a number of guys coming down from Aberdeen to 'support' me," he says, a hint of comic trepidation coming into his voice.

"I think they'll give me more hassle than anybody else."





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1

Wee Pal Joe,

17/05/2008 00:07:23
Pity there's no mention of St Mirren not wanting Freeland to referee their games (specifically against the aforementioned Dundee United). Still, I'm sure it was a load of nonsense like all the other conspiracy theories and the like.
2

bring them on,

17/05/2008 00:15:28
Some of the threads today are closing down quicker than the Rangers defence
3

bring them on,

17/05/2008 00:22:25
Who is Joyce McMillan?
4

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 00:42:24
I take it there will be no games tomorrow due to the the sad passing of Tommy?
5

bring them on,

17/05/2008 00:46:28
Forbesy

Good point. No idea what they decided to do, though
6

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 00:47:23
p.s. in case anyone thinks i am being snide i genuinely pass my sympathy to the Burns family, he was a true gent.
7

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 00:47:42
I believe it is about time that one should look at this Offside? goal at Ibrox that the press and popular opinion has decreed SHOULD hve stood. The simple fact is that given the movement of the United player running accross the line of the defence in an OFFSIDE POSITION, can be construed as to be interfering with play as per the definition that currently is in force (after all why would a striker make such a run if not to either make space for himself or to draw defenders out of position to make space for a teammate). The currentoffside definition being one which is sufficiently vague as to allow for a number of differing interpretations. I thought the rules of our game were supoised to be simple. Should focus not now be brought onto this rule and the significant number of differing interpretations we have seen both in Scotland and every other footballing nation with the outcome of returning this SIMPLE rule to a case of either on or offside, not on or offside, but it might not matter so i wont give it.
8

bring them on,

17/05/2008 00:49:41
#7

You cleary don't know the offside rule well.

If the linesman sticks up his flag- offside

If no- no

Call yourself a footbaall fan.....
9

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 00:50:56
The man was central to Celtic, surely they will have to cancel tomorrow?
10

bring them on,

17/05/2008 00:54:43
The Joyce McMillan article on the top page is the best thing I have read on this site (apart from Idee's one about Novo's criminal record)
11

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:00:04
The reef laid by WS et al was a nice touch.

The turf from Ibrox was used to make it, and the tea ladies spent all night knitting it together.


Hope that more Rangers fans get over to CP and pay their respects.
12

Wee Pal Joe,

17/05/2008 01:02:10
A lot of Gers fans have been over already and left scarves, etc - and rightly so.
13

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:02:32
I have tried to register on a Celtic website to pay my respects but to no avail, anyway, god bless Tommy Burns.
14

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:03:41
9
forbesy1873

Celtic dont play until Thursday.
15

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:06:41
Are Rangers playing today or tomorrow?

Must be shagged out.
16

Silence of the Yams,

17/05/2008 01:09:05
Freeland retired his brain long ago!
17

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:09:36
Sorry Kirrie but the same question stands.
18

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 01:10:55
#8 Thanks for your comment, however, I believe you are missing the point.

Perhaps, I wasnt clear in my thoughts, afer all it is still quite early here.

In the example provided there is an argument for the goal being disallowed and for the goal being allowed, which ever argument the individual favours. In such a simple, or so it used to be , decision about being offside or not, why is there a rule as vague as this in place which is open to so much differing and diverse interpretation.

Taken From FIFA rules 2007/8
Offside Position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the
ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of
the referee, involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position
No Offence
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick or
• a throw-in or
• a corner kick

PS. One last point, and this may add to the confusion factor, if a linesman puts up his flag for offside, the referee can chose to ignore it. The offence only takes place when the referee signals the offence has occurred. This can occur either with or without discussion with the linesman. So again we have a scenario where two individuals viewing the action from two differing vantage points have to rule on the same point.
19

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:11:43
17
forbesy1873

What question?
20

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:12:28
If Celtic couldn't face playing after Phil O'Donell died then should we expect them to play after Tommy Burns has passed away?

What is the answer?
21

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:16:58
20
forbesy1873

The funeral, as I understand is on Tuesday. Celtics last game is Thursday.

T.B would have insisted it went ahead,
22

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:18:06
#18

Nit picking.

OK, I admit I omitted the bit aboot the refs "option" to ignore the flag. I didn't see your post clearly.

As far as I am aware, that has happened only very occassionally in big games. Certainly not in Scotalnd, where all refs have to undergo an intensive offside course in Larkhall.
23

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:18:53
The answer is obvious, after the passing of such a well loved individual we should postpone all matches as a mark of respect, football should be secondary.
24

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:21:31
Kirrie, I am sure Phil would have as well but in times like these no one wants to watch a game when grief is so high.
25

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:23:32
23
forbesy1873

I really really wish your lot could afford some of that respect to Jock Steins family. Tommy would love that.
26

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 01:24:02
#20

Does raise an interesting if unsavoury point. What do Celtic do in this case? I for one would have no qualms about agreeing (not that i have any say in the matter) to Celtic not having to play a match so close to the funeral of what no one can deny was a great servant to their club. However, they have backed themselves into a corner about thae mater of postponements lately. And lets not forget that if anyone raises any questions around the motivation for the postponement ofthe Old Firm match for the sad pasing of Phil O'Donnell they are derided as being in the same league as Hitler, Poll Pot or any other demonic character.
27

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:27:17
Celtic only have a few options

1. Cancel the game

2. Cancel the game and ask for a replay

3. Don't cancel the game and play with black arm bands

4. Rearrange the fixture for a Bank Holiday Monday

5. Play, and lose the game (but blame the ref)

6. Play, and win the game

7. Play, and it's a draw (but blame the ref)

28

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:29:48
Facts as they are state that the game should be postponed, surely Tommy meant as much to Celtic as Phil?
29

jerrymanders,

17/05/2008 01:31:48
#forbesy

After your lot disgraced Scotland, Scottish football, and football in general, on Wednesday with your rioting in Manchester (and Ibrox) I think that you should do the nonourable thing and shut up.
30

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:32:30
If Celtic do cancel the game then I will publicly apologise for calling them chancers.
31

jerrymanders,

17/05/2008 01:32:47
That goes for BTO too.
32

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:33:48
Thats's a very cogent arguement Jerry, well put!
33

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 01:35:00
#18

It has been mentioned her in these posts about an earlier Rangers game involbving I think it was Dundee Utd and rangers where again I think it was the same referee overuled his linesman to allow a goal to rangers.

If you get the timehave a look at this link. If players and pundits of this stature cant work it out what chance have we.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SKIM793KCk

I am lucky enough to se football from UK, France, Italy, Spain, AAustralia, Asia etc and te same controversy arises on a week in week out basis. Granted my example in a particularly high proile one

I would keep quiet about referees getting their training in Larkhall as the conspiracy theorists will be going appoplectic.

Cheers
34

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:35:35
28
forbesy1873

What game? Not your game tomorrow surely? Rangers fans have sorta forfeited their right to showing respect. You cant turn it on or off, it generally has to be 24/7 to be considered genuine. Some of you have it, most of you dont.
35

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 01:36:02
Sorry last post was for #22
36

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:36:02
Hi Jerry

How is life?

I have been reseaching the offside rule, so don't plan for an easy day.
37

jerrymanders,

17/05/2008 01:36:15
#32

Glad you agree that your lot were a disgrace.
38

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:38:34
#33

Some good points there, and I will be the first to say that.

But is "quality" of refs that's the issue. I think we should go for "quantity".
39

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:38:36
ffs Kirrie, you are now saying that you could play through the pain of losing Tommy but couldn't with Phil, is that what you are saying?
40

jerrymanders,

17/05/2008 01:39:18
#36

Is that in the book of "Rules" (Laws, actually) for Rangers and the "rules" for the rest?
41

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:42:28
39
forbesy1873

No, what i am saying is that the likes of you shall not dictate how we as a support grieve one of our own.

You have no point of reference, you are out of you element.

42

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:43:21
Jerry

The wife has thrown you out again?

We all know there is only one set of Regulation Rules.
43

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:43:56
So tell me Jerry/Kirrie it was either right to cancel the game in respect to Phil which means it should follow suit with Tommy or it was wrong to cancel January's game, which one is it?
44

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:44:55
Kirrie

Have you ever been to Blackpool? The big slide is magic
45

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:45:40
Brilliant Jerry, "the likes of you" what does that mean? educate me.
46

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:46:10
43
forbesy1873

Your summer must be short. You appear to have no time span if there are no matchdays.

47

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:46:25
Forbesy

I was trying to stay there with you, but the posts are jumbled.

Point form is better, IMO
48

jerrymanders,

17/05/2008 01:46:48
#45

I blame your school.
49

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:47:45
That's fine BTO but your opinion is a tad self inflated IMO.
50

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:48:47
45
forbesy1873

I said that.

By the "likes of you" I meant to$$ers who are still thinking of what advantage their team can recieve from a death.
51

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:49:27
Kirrie Scotlands summers are short unfortunately.
52

jerrymanders,

17/05/2008 01:49:53
#49

Come on guys! No more fighting amongst yourselves again. We have seen enough.
53

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:50:40
Kirrie, quid pro quo
54

Kirrie Tim,

17/05/2008 01:51:33
forbesy GTF
55

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:51:59
#52

How long have you been saving that one up for...

Who is Joyce McMillan?
56

bring them on,

17/05/2008 01:52:29
#54

Good post
57

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:52:32
Kirrie, a vowel please Bob.
58

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 01:57:36
Maybe you are viewing me on the wrong foot, I geuinely see Tommy Burns as one of Scotland's true greats and one of life's great guys but what is the the difference between Phil O'Donnel? another of the good guys?
59

bring them on,

17/05/2008 02:01:01
#58

Phil was a decent player, and no room for us to say otherwise. Nae probs there.

Any doubts, check the Daily Record
60

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 02:05:43
I am not saying otherwise, I always liked him, I am only saying that either January's game should have been played or Thursday's game should be delayed.

Either postptone the game through respect or play it, just don't pick and choose.
61

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 02:08:24
#38
I think with the lack of top grade officials we have, increasing the quantity of numbers is something that would have an end result in that it would go a long way to dispelling the conspiracy theorists views and would simply highlight the lack of standardised quality decision making across the board.
It may be a case of if the job is too difficult for the workforce available is it reasonable to simplify the job (if possible) to allow the workforce to be able to carry out the function well.
62

bring them on,

17/05/2008 02:09:01
OK, play or not play. Good call.

For me, the issue should be complicated more.

You are making it just two chioces. Most people prefer the wee three or four.
63

forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 02:09:13
Anyway I am off to my bed, all the best wishes to Tommy Burns family and god bless him.
64

bring them on,

17/05/2008 02:15:59
#63

I'll second that
65

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 02:17:01
#50

Isnt th To$$er definition the point of this whole argument.

It has now been thrown back at Celtic with relevant and pertinant questions about the reasons why the Old Firm game was called off (which no doubt had an affect on Celtic that they could avoid suspension and strengthen their squad deficiencies)if they dont use the same Celtic family rationalle to ask for a postponement of the game on Thursday for Tommy Burns. Or has their publicly stated views on the matter of postponements given them a bit of a problem here.
66

Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 02:44:49
#50, Your post at #34, may ned revisiting also.
67

bring them on,

17/05/2008 02:47:23
I have no problem with the revisiting, as long as it is not just a jungle of ifs and buts
68

bring them on,

17/05/2008 02:48:35
Will Tommy be Knighted now?
69

bring them on,

17/05/2008 02:52:51
For me, the correct use of the bracket has gone from today's posters.

In my day, we had long uses of them (sometimes concealling the true meaning of the post with some dry humour in there).

Aye, the days of the bracket are gone.
70

SOFBTRC,

Far, far from Glasgow 17/05/2008 06:10:40
And so it begins, eh Mr. Bathgate?

The Rangers spin machine is starting to get going. Requests sent out to the media to downplay incidents that cast Rangers in a bad light. "Criticism MUST be justified", says Freeland, the clear inference being that Craig Levein's criticism was not. As has already been predicted, Chicken McCurry will soon announce his retirement after being "hounded out" of the job, and Gordon Smith will then blast the complainers for forcing a "great whistler at the peak of his game to throw in the towel". United will then be the bad guys and the press will be back onside with Rangers and the SFA. The status quo is restored.

Show some balls, Mr. Bathgate. McCurry's performance was an absolute disgrace. If they were only "errors" then my head buttons up the back.

SHOW OLD FIRM BIAS THE RED CARD!
71

bring them on,

17/05/2008 06:27:18
#70

Mr Spud

Too much of the old potato wine?


I have written a song

Only one SPL winner,

Only one SPL winner.


One SPL winner,

Only one SPL winner...
72

Publilius Syrus,

R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueOnfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 17/05/2008 08:16:42
Alan Freemason would have been better keeping his gub shut.

As soon as he says "I believe that there is no deliberately fraudulent decisions and corruption", in the refereeing of games involving Rearrangers and then when those corrupt decisions invariably go in Rearrangers favour they are simply genuine mistakes.

At that point Mr Freemason makes it abundantly clear that he is not prepared to tell the truth about the poison that is central to the officiating standards of all games in Scotland where Rearrangers are "competing".

Mr Freemason is merely confirming that he is part of it.


Sad.
Isn`t it
73

Publilius Syrus,

C.L.I.Q.U.E. CraigLeveinIsQuiteUnique-Eh !!! 17/05/2008 08:47:56
The viewing and more importantly,the paying public,recognise when a referee makes a genuine mistake of course they do.

But when the likes of what happened in the Corruption Is Successful cup in Rearrangers quarter final against Hibs,then in Basket Balls-Semi against Hearts and in the final itself against United,you`ve got to stand up and say enough is enough.
The paying public can see,hear and smell what is going on entirely to the singular benefit of Rangers F.C.

Cover up commentators and journalists are at that point superfluous to requirements.

When the game is honking putrid,no amount of laptopmeejaroyalizm can divert the paying publics common sense from the blatantly obvious.


Scotlands Football deserves better.
Doesn`t it.
74

Publilius Syrus,

F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 17/05/2008 09:01:36
For example,no one can ever now know whether or not Dundee United would have qualified for a European slot next season.
But what we can say with certainty is that the 5 decisons that wrongly went against them last week in one single game which ensured Rearrangers could keep up their title challenge, did not help their fight for that crucial money-spinning slot.

Thats the difference and stark contrast that corrupt refs make.


Couldn`t be more drastic.
Could it.
75

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17/05/2008 09:12:02
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Viewer,

WA 17/05/2008 09:20:43
#74 or idee fixee or whoever you are

I suppose you are of the view that there were only 5 wrong decisions in the last Rangers V Dundee Utd game.

What about the two wrongly given off side decisions against Novo when he was through on goal or the disgraceful miss of the officials when the Dundee Utd Centers hand was seen to strike Cousin's face in a slapping motion immediately before the so called head butt. Alas I believe that in your slightly different world, these are mere abhorations and not incidents which would be conclusive evidence of CORRUPTION (if I had the inclination, I would make up some funny little phrase from all of the letters, however, I cant be bothered being so sad).

Please do us all a favour and at least try and contribute something thought provoking or even just humourous in your daily rants.

Reasonable
Isn't it

77

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17/05/2008 09:29:03
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Tim Malloy...,

Paradiso 17/05/2008 09:30:35
Refs - ALL WE ARE SAYING IS REFEREE FAIR

Cheats - ALL WE ARE SAYING IS PLAY FAIR

Fans - ALL WE ARE SAYING IS SHOW RESPECT

It shouldn't be too difficult, it's not a big ask. We've got earthquakes, cyclones, poverty and disease killing millions and somehow in Scotland just playing and watching a game of football can't be done properly.

Give football and sport a chance.
79

bring them on,

17/05/2008 09:40:26
Tim,

So it looks as if the SPL is going to Ibrox.

A decent shove by the the beggars at the end, but no big enough.

With the silky skills of Broadfoot, it may be a long time before the title changes.

80

Wee Pal Joe,

17/05/2008 09:41:15
The goal Aberdeen should have got against Motherwell last weekend (when the ball was clearly over the line) hurt Dundee United too. Also Dundee United have had more players sent off in the SPL than any other team (10). Is there a conspiracy against them? I doubt it. Have they been unlucky? Maybe. The sending-off of Kalvenes against Killie was an absolute shocker for example - and Levein was in one of his rages:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/6944946.stm

Meanwhile Celtic have had precisely zero red cards in the SPL despite such incidents as McManus breaking Holden of Falkirk's leg with an awful "tackle" and Vennegoor of Hesselink hitting various opponents with his elbows, arms and boot (Faye for example).
81

bring them on,

17/05/2008 09:45:47
Wee Joe

If it's a 50/50 ball, two players go for it, but there's a wee clash of heads

What's the correct decision by the referee from Madrid?
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Tim Malloy...,

17/05/2008 09:47:06
79

aye whatever.

No matter what happens now, I know Celtic are rhe best team in the country and the TRUE CHAMPIONS.

Having a bit of tin in a cupboard might underline it, but the reality is Celtic are the top team and club on and off the park in Scotland. END OF!



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Tim Malloy...,

17/05/2008 09:52:03
80

Your right Celtic this season should have had a few red cards. The two you mention were reds I agree, but Celtic also suffered a lot of undeserved yellow cards - Aiden being the biggest victim of ref's yellow fever.

On the subject of reds I could you give you a list of 20 incidents where Rangers should have had RED cards this season - if you really want to go down that road.

REFS - all we ask is that you ref fair

CHEATS - all we ask is that you play fair

FANS - all we ask is that you show respect

Is it really that difficult?
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Tim Malloy...,

17/05/2008 09:55:15
I am delighted to hear Motherwell will be without Bob Malcolm today.

85

bring them on,

17/05/2008 09:56:13
Tim

Disgrace from a few punters in Manchester. What can you do?

For me, the wee songs (not the ones that you compalain about) and a dance are what makes it a good season, or not.


Tommy no longer with us, Ally still is.

What can you do?
86

bring them on,

17/05/2008 10:00:18
Idee had a good post the other day (honest). There were more stats in there than you could eat with a big spoon.

On the music front, just got a copy of the Elastique album by Stretch. I think they were a Glasgow band?

A couple of good numbers on there.
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Publilius Syrus,

C.L.I.Q.U.E. CraigLeveinIsQuiteUnique-Eh !!! 17/05/2008 10:03:53
Please note that in the four corruptly officiated games I have cited above involved Rearrangers opposition by way of Hibs,Hearts and Dundee United(x2).

Champions Celtic have not been mentioned once.

There is no need.
And that is why the whole of Scottish Football is belittled.

You see,claims of paranoia eternally directed at Celtic Park in isolation have now been fatally diluted.

Stand up Craig Levein.
Stand up Mad(my erse)Vlad.

Scotlands Football needs your commendable courage.
Doesn`t it.
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Brother Walfrid,

17/05/2008 10:07:26
83

Tim

I didn't think McManus' was a red card. Very unfortunate that the boy broke his leg, but his legs got tangled with mcmanus' after he'd played the ball cleanly.
It was a bit of a freak that will happen now and again in football. Somehow his legs got jammed and his own momentum pushing forward lead to the fracture.

As for Venegoor on Faye, at first I thought it was only a yellow for a high boot. All the drama stemmed from the fact that Faye was winded which is always a distressing sight.
However, from one camera angle it looked as though Venegoor had applied extra force AFTER he his boot connected with Fye's chest. It wasn't 100% clear, but had the referee seen it from that angle, I think he would have sent him off, and Venegoor couldn't really have had any complaints about that.
89

bring them on,

17/05/2008 10:08:12
#87

Levein will be cautioned (rightly so), and peace will once again be with us. His outburst was unacceptable.

A man in his postion should no better.
90

bring them on,

17/05/2008 10:10:13
#88

The only thing that McManus does "cleanly" is with a cleaver
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Black Five,

edinburgh 17/05/2008 10:33:57
Alan Freeland is probably the worst ref of all time.A total blithering idiot.
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forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 10:51:03
Ah well, it seems we will have to content ourselves with the domestic treble but thanks for putting up a good fight.
93

bring them on,

17/05/2008 10:58:53
Forbesy

Content might not be the right word (damn, we were so close for the U Cup), but in the cold light of day we must just have to settle down by the fire, count our chestnuts and say "hey, it's been a great season and Celtic didnae win anything and it must be breaking the hearts of all of their fans when they sit back and take a good look at another year of achieving zilch"

It's just been one of those years
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TAWTIE HOWKER,

OIRLAND 17/05/2008 11:03:50
celtic will win nothing because they are 2nd best.

In the league anyway.

In Europe? Also rans.

Scottish cup? Nowhere.

League cup? Nowhere.
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TAWTIE HOWKER,

OIRLAND 17/05/2008 11:05:24
PubicFarce, Rangers are Number 1 in the world.

Hard to take for beggar scum like yourself, but true!!
96

bring them on,

17/05/2008 11:09:10
Celtic might win the 5- a-side (indoor) championship at Largs.

Other than that, they are scuppered.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 17/05/2008 11:18:03
forbsey..disappointed with your posts..just admit to being snide ..frightened ..bitter ..whatever...but i think its not hard to see the difference from a player dying suddenly on the pitch and someone who tragically has been termally ill dying..as every fair minded fan agrees all the games should have been postponed after phil odonnells death...the fact they weren't is hardly celtics fault..but hey forbsey i guess its crunch time from a footballing point of view//
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 17/05/2008 11:20:27
#95 you would think the moron (no offense to morons) who posts these would at least have the sense to schange his style ..go away young man im sure like the idiots in manchester who ruin it for the majority your postings are an embarressment to gers fans on here x
99

bring them on,

17/05/2008 11:20:41
Nae one posting on the last of the Wembley Wizards article.
100

bring them on,

17/05/2008 11:22:57
Tim

Have you reconsidered. For me, on side, for you off side.

Only one man with the flag
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 17/05/2008 11:24:26
#80..you may have seen the posts outlining all the decisions that mccurry has given in favour of rangers...mistakes do happen..but on the scale of this man he is either not up to it (a view shared by fifa.) or something worse...there is no referee equivalent for celtic...
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forbesy1873,

17/05/2008 11:34:02
Sorry to disappoint you Sonof but although Tommy was long diagnosed with Cancer his sad passing was a complete shock to me at least, I thought he was winning his fight and surely it is inapproriate to play a game so soon after the passing of a true Celtic legend?

In January Celtic had injuries and suspensions and it suited them not to play and in May Rangers are on the back foot with injuties and it suits Celtic to play

Passing of an ex Celtic playe - postpone the game

Passing of a Celtic legend and current employee - play on

Who is being cynical, me or Celtic?
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paulmac,

surrey 17/05/2008 11:34:35
The leader of Manchester City Council is to ask UEFA to consider banning Rangers from all European competitions next season!

What happened?