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Published Date: 07 May 2009
ANY talk of Heart of Midlothian as the roundheads of football in Edinburgh while Hibernian are the cavaliers of the capital has been dismissed by Csaba Laszlo, who rejects the suggestion that the Easter Road club may have been superior to their local rivals in any aspect of the game this season.
ANY talk of Heart of Midlothian as the roundheads of football in Edinburgh while Hibernian are the cavaliers of the capital has been dismissed by Csaba Laszlo, who rejects the suggestion that the Easter Road club may have been superior to their loc
al rivals in any aspect of the game this season.

It is often argued the strength of this Hearts' side lies in their power play thanks to the team work of a group of tall, physically imposing players. Hibs, on the other hand, enjoy a reputation for being more technically gifted, though far less consistent, with a number of skilful forwards such as Derek Riordan and Steven Fletcher at the disposal of manager Mixu Paatelainen.

As Hearts, third in the SPL, prepare for the visit to Tynecastle this evening of sixth-placed Hibs in what will be the most significant derby of the campaign, Laszlo was happy to argue the Premier League table doesn't lie. Although some of Hearts' performances in the first-half of the season were about grinding out results, the manager believes his side have grown in confidence and become more expressive over the course of the campaign.

Asked for his opinion on the contention that Hearts break down the door while Hibs pick the lock, Laszlo replied: "This is a good opinion, but I don't agree with this, definitely not. It's my opinion if you compare the two teams, and you also compare the games between us, I don't think they go over us in any point which is important: physically, technically or tactically. Maybe it was true last season, but not this season. What does physical mean? If you don't run then you cannot win the game. You must run and you must work.

"At Easter Road for the last derby, if Christian Nade has the luck to score goals, then we don't lose. Okay, everyone has an opinion. I respect the manager of Hibs. If you don't respect your opponent then you don't win the game. But this season we've shown the better football.

"If we do this on Thursday, then we can win. For me it's not very important always to be compared with Hibs – we must look to be better in the table, to be more pretty and more successful. It's a very good question. You know why? Because I've always had this provocation in my career before derbies. Your team is okay, but this side is better. At the end of the season we'll see which one is better.

"This is not to say Hibs are a bad team. I did not say that. But they are not better than my team. They have some good players who have achieved good results. Hibs are Hibs and Hearts are Hearts."

Although the shrewd and skilful contributions of Andrew Driver and Bruno Aguiar back-up Laszlo's argument, it's clear Hearts carry a clear advantage tonight in terms of height and power over a Hibs' side missing some of their tallest and strongest players.

While the Hearts manager is aware of Hibs' problems in terms of injuries and suspensions, he doesn't think the team Paatelainen picks will be any less dangerous. "Every team has problems," he said. "I don't think at the moment we only look at which players will or won't play (for Hibs]. Against Rangers we were without Lee Wallace and Ruben Palazuelos, but I think we still played a good game without getting the best result.

"This is not a usual game, it's a derby and for me there are two aspects to the match. For us, there's prestige and a way to qualify for the Europa league. For Hibs, it's more about the prestige. We have two aspects and they only have one. But after losing against Dundee United, I'm sure Hibs will want to win. To beat your (local] team in the same town is always important."

If Hearts take full points from Hibs and Dundee United defeat Aberdeen tonight, the Tynecastle side know they will be odds on favourites to play in Europe next season. "I try to take pressure off the players," Laszlo reasoned. "But they are professionals and when they go on the field I don't think they have in their brains a sense of winning the game for prestige or because a place in Europe is at stake. You just like to win. The victory is what matters then afterwards you can (take stock] of what it means. We've had pressure in every game this season."

Laszlo expects to recall Lee Wallace at left-back, although Ruben Palazuelos may miss out in midfield again because of a knee injury. "We won't decide until nearer the time and have options with Eggert Jonsson and Laryea Kingston," he added. "There's also competition for the goalkeeping position with Janos Balogh fighting to come back in."

As for next season's plans, the manager remains hopeful of retaining the services of captain Robbie Neilson. "At the moment, he will stay. This is not a big question for me. We would like to attract better players for next season, but there is always the question of money. We have names, this is not a big secret. We need a central defender, right midfielder, a striker and maybe for central midfield, because I don't know what will happen with Bruno Aguiar. We don't have a concrete deal. If we can keep him, then we won't need anyone else in the middle."

• Hearts youngster Branimir Kostadinov has quit the club after failing to make the breakthrough at first-team level.

The Bulgarian striker's arrival at Tynecastle two years ago attracted a lot of attention but

the 20-year-old, who was once linked with Manchester City, has severed all ties with Hearts.

The club's policy of signing talented youngsters from abroad has so far failed to bear fruit.

Romanian teenager Dumitru Copil, who was initially dubbed the next Gheorghe Hagi, and Slovenian defender Matej Rapnik have also left Hearts in the past season.







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  • Last Updated: 06 May 2009 10:45 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

leith keely,

edinburgh 07/05/2009 00:13:24
what about eggert jonsson or isn`t iceland "abroad"?
2

kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 07/05/2009 01:15:04
Full marks to Lazlo for his diplomacy. He could have said that in terms of any aspect of football including skill, it would be more realistic to compare Hibs with Albion Rovers.
3

Cammy,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 01:46:55
Hearts certainly have us beat on two counts. One you have a manager, and two you have a debt that makes you bankrupt almost twice over.

We can only hope that we can sort the first problem soon. As for the second, there's no way we could ever come close, so you win :-).

Whether of course you'll win tonight is another question. It's not as if you can have any excuses for not winning, but you never know.

4

Jonathan,

UAE 07/05/2009 01:51:02
The comparison, Roundheads v Cavaliers, makes sense to me. GGTTH
5

Shantaram,

07/05/2009 01:54:17
Come on Hearts. Stick 5 past the moaning, greeting, whinging Easter Road trollops.
6

Cammy,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 03:26:48
#5, We don't greet or whinge. We mope about looking forlorn. As for our loose morals, well you might be right, but is that such a bad thing :-).

Have a nice day, and a not so nice evening :-(
7

Signore Giuseppe Tortolano,

07/05/2009 03:49:19
"I respect the manager of Hibs." quoth Shabba...........

you'll be in the minority of one then, me old mucker.



8

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 07/05/2009 03:49:37
Still going with the old debt comments Cammy.

come on think of something new we are all bored sh#tless with that one.

Think you will find out tonight just how much better than you the JT'S really are. 4 or 5 would not suprize me.

MON THE JT'S

mixu must stay
9

Craig Francis,

Mooroolbark, Australia 07/05/2009 03:49:57
"Laszlo believes Hearts outshine Hibs in every department"

Humility isn't one of them.
10

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 07/05/2009 03:52:52
Before any hoobs who can spell start giving me a hard time---it's surprise.

MON THE JT'S

mixu must stay
11

huggs,

07/05/2009 06:44:02
Cant remember the last time i looked forward to a match as much as this one.
Hopefully we play Nade and Elliot from the start get the game under control from the start and really go for it.

HHGH
12

senza nome,

07/05/2009 07:04:16
The Roundheads did win the Civil War....on away goals.
13

FTH22inarow,

07/05/2009 07:10:16
9 truthfulness is. FTH
14

carrottop,

Dumfries 07/05/2009 07:10:21

The quality of the supporters can only be the icing on the cake for Hearts.
15

FTH22inarow,

07/05/2009 07:24:34
We are superior,
you are inferior
16

Away down In Gorgie (2),

07/05/2009 07:40:43
Is it smart to make such commnets prior to a game?

Best left in the changing room imho
17

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

07/05/2009 07:49:47
Think Laslo is too diplomatic sometimes when asked these ignorat questions. which "journalist" was it? Pat Nevin?

Once Laslo had settled in, got to know the players and found his preferred line-up we have been playing the "lock-picking" football the journalist seems to think is Hibs trait most of the season. And unlike when Hibs played passing football, we've actually translated it into a league position. However, it's Hibs who received the plaudits.

The performance against Rangers was a great example of patient build-up and then releasing a wide player - far from breaking down the door. And that's what we've been doing, or trying to do, all season if only the media could see past their dislike of Romanov.
18

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 07/05/2009 08:05:32
1*

Correct and are there not a few young Aussies at Tynecastle or is that Australia in Auchtermuchty or somewhere like that. Though I do think it can be difficult for some youngsters to handle a different culture and a different language from their own at such a young age.


19

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 07/05/2009 08:15:16
On paper we could say Hearts have an easier task tonight than Dundee United, but games are not played on paper, tactics may be written on paper before hand. I have no doubt Hibs will be up for it and will make it as difficult as they can. I will be happy with a one goal win, don't forget apart from cup, victoriesover Hibs last two seasons not actually overflowing. It is unthinkable the number of chances we let pass us by.
20

Iain Bhern,

07/05/2009 08:30:52
Serious question for you Jambos. Has Craig Gordon played the required number of games to trigger that 500K payment that was due to Hearts? If not it'll be a while coming as I read on teletext this morning that he is out for the rest of the season due to a foot injury. Not that the season has long to go but if Sunderland get relegated they may have to offload him.
21

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 07/05/2009 08:43:32
I just laugh now when I hear this "physical hearts" versus the "flair of hibs"

If anything we are not powerful enough. Our centre backs are good players but not physical like Jones and Hogg. Who else other than Nade (who wont start) is either big or physical? wallace, driver, bruno, stewart etc are all good players but dont have much physical presence. Our football is patient and played on the floor.

Compare that with the back to front football of jones / hogg to Nish / fletcher and its easy to see why in every derby this year, irrespective of score there was only one team trying to play football .... and that team was maroon.

How long will HIbs dine out on that one good footballing season under mowbrary?
22

troonjambo,

Troon 07/05/2009 08:44:16
#9
Generally speaking Laszlo is very careful about what he says regarding other teams and managers. If you read the quotes in this article you will see that he doesn't actually say Hearts outshine Hibs in every department. In the quotes he actually explains why he thinks Hibs are not better than Hearts.

Slightly different from the headline - what a surprise in this paper!
23

Phil C,

07/05/2009 08:46:56
"Goszlo believes Hearts outshine Hibs in every department, and in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Labour Party!"
24

Phil C,

07/05/2009 09:14:31
#25 Jamboy

I don't think you'll find many Hibbies disagreeing. You'll find plenty supporting their team though, but the truth is that Mixu has managed a more HMFC-type hoofball game. What he's not brought in the 'clever' (cheating and moaning) side of Hearts. I certainly wouldn't want Goszlo as manager.

Most Hibbies want Mixu to go, not because we're 6th in the league, but because the football on offer is sub-standard. We still have some decent skillful players (no thanks to the OF) but they are not playing to potential.

Anyway, here's hoping that Hearts get gubbed tonight!
25

Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

07/05/2009 09:23:50
#21 According to the Guardian he needs surgery to his knee so is out for the season, so it's not his foot and neither is it £500k due.

Does the Scotsman still get published as a broadsheet? If so they should really think about going to tabloid format and changing their logo to a nice red colour.
26

Adso,

07/05/2009 09:32:35
There certainly is some confusion in this Hibs flair, Hearts hoof storyline. I will not deny for one second that under Mowbray Hibs played some delightful football. If you watch West Brom you can see the same brand of passing football.

Post Mowbray however we have had Mixu and John Collins - great football? Pre-Mowbray we had Williamson, Sauzee, McLeish, Duffy, Miller - these guys did not exactly play silky soccer (well from a Jambo's point of view they played great stuff!). So apart from the 27 months of Mowbray where is the flair football? Do we have to go back to the 70's?
27

edboy,

07/05/2009 09:33:41
#25 I don't believe that we have said our football is technically better than hearts, but what I would say is that we have technical footballers being asked to play in a non-technical way. We have the players with ability to play it on the ground, we want it played on the ground but the manager sees it differently. Simple as that.

Oh and it was not just one season under Mowbray, Collins had us playing a lot of good football too, I remember a game where we had 81% possession against someone...

28

edboy,

07/05/2009 09:37:04
#29 Under McLeish we played some great stuff, the others were not so good. Even Williamson said if you want entertainment then go to the cinema. Although did Richard from Sportscene not say that watching Hearts is making my eyes bleed...and that was this season?
29

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 10:15:18
this is a story!? one look at the league table tells you all you need to know.

this season weve had idiots like mcghee, calderwood, levein, nish who think we have "lucked" out to get third and that the team in 6th is a "better" team are pathetic!

first game of the season 3-2 at home to motherwell we played great stuff. very technical and disciplined. horses for courses - football is about winning - ugly or not. sometimes its not been pretty - other times it has.

#29 bang on!!! duffy, williamson, miller - free flowing dutch style!!??

we played great stuff under burley and the belief we are physical is truly remarkable -

"watch out drivers gonna get you" is hardly going to strike fear into opponents!!

think of celtic under o'neil - now thats what you call a big physical team ffs!!

you dont hear us bang on about how hearts smashed mowbrays "flairmeisters" by 4 goals - 3 times!!
30

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 10:36:07
I have to say that for virtually all of the past 26 years or so, Hearts have been the superior side to Hibs in every department and that is clearly evident from the results including the two long unbeaten runs in the 80s / 90s.

Anything can happen in a debry game but I fully expect this to be a straightforward 3 points for Hearts bearing in mind the respective form of both sides.

I do think the story of another of these "exceptional" youngsters leaving is significant. Signing these guys and paying for the accommodation and salaries over the past few years must have made a dent in the huge debt and for what? Once again it shows that football people should ALWAYS make decisions about signings, not owners baded on watching a few YouTube clips of a youth game on an agent's dvd.
31

busbyfh,

07/05/2009 10:39:39
# 29

Adso.....Correct - To continue your point - Mowbray maybe installed flair football at these two clubs - but where did it get them ?
FFFHibs did nowt' and WBA are on their way out the EPL.
Nice passing is good to see....only if there is a positive end result. Bet the FFFhibees would rather they had scored a few more goals this season by route one methods - Something I might say that they have used since half way through Joan Collins' tenure.
Watch tonight and see how much hoof ball is played by Pantyliners mob.


Mike Aitken - writer - Sorry, but where does Casbah say that Hearts are better than FFFHibs in every department ? Nothing like it.Casbah states that he reckons Hearts are not bettered by FFFHibs in any department-does not mean that WE are better. Yet another negative bent on a nothing Hearts article....It's Golden Wonder season again Mike - should you not be busy elsewhere giving your back a hard time ?
32

FINLAYBAR,

07/05/2009 10:40:02
Never understood this idea that hearts are a longball physical team and hibs do nothing but keep the ball on the ground.

By physical you mean organised and tough to break down then yeah we are.

Lets see how often hibs play back to front tonight on a tight pitch when actually it should be ideal for there fast passing game.

Its difficult to play a passing game when you dont have a decent midfielder even mixu has figured that out.
33

Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 07/05/2009 10:43:50
#32
When has Craig Levein said anything detrimental about how Hearts have achieved their current league position?
34

hibbyspurs,

07/05/2009 10:46:09
I must admit that Hearts are better than Hibs in nearly every department this season as we've been utter pi$s..... It wouldnt be hard to be better than us with our current manager emplying hoofball nearly all the time & forgetting to pick a midfield the rest of the time anyway.

I am not looking forward to tonight's "festivities", however we live in the eternal hope that Mixu may grow a football managers brain or that sooner rather than later the board will put Mixu out of the Hibs fans misery.......

If someone offered me a draw tonight right now I'd take their arm off.
35

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 10:49:33
#33 i think thats a bit harsh

"the 20-year-old, who was once linked with Manchester City, has severed all ties with Hearts." this to me suggests that he was a talented kid and has just not made it. and considering man city enquired while he was at hearts then i dont think vlad to blame for this but gives you an excuse for a vlad rant.

dont think it should stop us doing the same in future. as pointed out eggert and matthew park are great examples of it working. our young lith noviakos seems to be doing great in the under 19s. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.
depends on the player.
36

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 10:51:52
#36 he called us cheats after a 1-0 win at tannadice when dundee utd got a dubious penalty and levein complained that "obua took his gloves off one at a time"

ive never seen anyone take two gloves off at once but if levein thinks that "time-wasting and cheating" then thats up to him! personally i think it makes him a sore loser and a whiner!
37

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 10:57:42
#38 Sorry to be pedantic but Jonsson was signed as a youngster by Levein before Romanov took over. So far he's been the only 16 year old signing to come from overseas who has made it in the 1st team. We also have Levein to thank for spotting Driver in England too.

I am hoping that all the international youngsters do make it but so far the results haven't been good have they?

Partly this is because these players haven't settled and have been homesick. Also, it seems one or two have had an ego problem where they expected to be first team regualars by 17/18 but didn't think they needed to work hard or improve in order to achieve this. Attitude and temprament is as important as ability in youth players and the guys that have left have not been good enough.
38

Rambo The Jambo,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 10:59:22

# 36 Kiwiarab,

He called us cheats and timewasters after losing 1-0 at Tannnadice. He then went on to pick on certain Hearts players and named individually each and every 'cheating' tactic he thought that they and Laszlo tried in the game.

Sore loser.

Lost any respect I had for him after that.
39

Pazuzu,

07/05/2009 11:01:49
Interpretation!

I like Laslo, but lets remember Ladies, Gentlemen and Yaks. He is raving mental.

Hertz are where they are due to other teams failures, and some good wins. On the overall tho, they HAVE been lucky. Of course the Jambo's will love what Laslo's been saying an interpret it to suit, who wouldn't.

Hibs have been dire with Mixu at the helm and in my opinion have the better players - just a joke of a manager who has failed us.

Hertz, great manager, the team - indifferent.

A Hibs win for me.

HMFC 4 HFC 9
40

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 11:04:52
#41 A bit harsh mate. Levein is one of the best Hearts players I have ever seen (if not the best) and was a loyal servant for 14 years as a player and 4 years as a manager. He is a self-confessed Hearts fan as a result of being associated with the club since the age of 19.

The fact he was angry after losing a match is just part of football and part of his make-up. To lose respect because of ill-advised comments after one match is a bit out of proportion in my view.

Football fans are so fickle and have such short memories it always seems to me.
41

Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 07/05/2009 11:07:20
#39 & #41

That does not answer my question

Comments made in the heat of the moment after a particular match hardy constitutes berating Hearts league position over the season as a whole. Furthermore to describe him as an idiot? (quoting post 32 again) Rather harsh considering his team are currently Hearts' closest rivals for 3rd place, yet were looking relegation certainties immediately prior to his appointment.
42

Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 07/05/2009 11:09:37
#41

Sore Loser? Possibly, but exactly the kind of quality possessed by a manager with a winning mentality....that'll do for me.
43

Adso,

07/05/2009 11:12:25
#40 Did Levein come back to Hearts in 2005 to sign Jonsson. Seems that he is very committed to Hearts to take a break from Leicester to sign players for us - I never knew that - credit to Levein.

As for Driver - Levein went all the way to the English town of North Berwick to pick him up eh?
44

Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

07/05/2009 11:14:05
#40 How did Levein spot Driver in England when he moved from Oldham to North Berwick at age 11?
45

BrownTrout,

07/05/2009 11:16:34
Here's hoping for a good game, with no maroon trout-like activity.

Methinks the lesser team from Edinburgh will get a shock tonight, Hibs win.

Hibs till I'm gutted.

GGTTH
46

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 11:20:18
Well, my point is that the best young players have come through the Hearts youth system and have been on the radar of the youth development people since they were 14 or 15 and signed on the go ahead of the manager - not flown in by the owner without every having been watched or assessed by any coach.

Are you disagreeing that this is the better way to develop young players or are you quite happy that presumably hundreds of thousands have been squandered on agents fees, salaries, accommodation etc on three young players nowehere near good enough to get into the first team squad but the who the owner liked the look of on YouTube???
47

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 11:20:52
#44 sorry but it does - you asked when he had berated hearts and whether or not it was just after a defeat does not matter.

i lumped levein in with the rest of the sore losers and agree idiot is far too harsh for levein.
i lost a little respect for him but not as much as 41. he was probably our best player and would have gone on to greatness had he not been so unlucky.

but mcghee and nish have both claimed their team is better than hearts while looking up to us in the table.

but you can add no 42 to the list of idiots!!!
48

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 11:26:07
#49 sorry but kostadinov was on barcelonas radar and celtic wanted copil...
49

Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 07/05/2009 11:28:14
#50 My question was when did Levein ever berate Hearts League position? He has never done that.

As for remarks made in the heat of the moment there are a few examples of more calculated remarks made by a certain individual with connections at Tynecastle that make CL's post match remarks pale by comparison.
50

Adso,

07/05/2009 11:28:57
#49 I do agree to an extent but it is a little strange to apportion all blame for things that go wrong to Romanov and offer no credit when he gets things right. Seems a little blinkered to me. Signing players like Driver and Johnsson on long term contracts is positive. Looking for talented foreign youth players is also positive. I guess time will tell but if we get top dollar for one homegrown player it will pay for a lot of unsuccessful ones.
51

Pazuzu,

07/05/2009 11:29:58
#50 I wanna be a fat baboon like John Colquhoun
Really? Another half baked fqk, put your favourite sock away.

GGTTH
52

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 11:30:26
#51 Guess what though, they didn't sign either of them and as they aren't good enough to get on the bench for Hearts after 3 or 4 years I think they might just feel that was the right decision.

Do you think if Barcelona really wanted Kostadinov he wouldn't be there? Really?
53

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 11:33:17
#52 no you didnt - you asked about how we achieved the league position..he said we are cheats and refs needed to look into us and pointed to david obua taking one glove off at a time as time wasting....
54

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 11:34:47
#53 Yes fair enough and you could say the same about the many millions spent by the owner without involvement from a manager in signing guys like Pinilla and Screpis. The problem is that the debt is £30m despite a £10m surplus in transfer deals and a £12m debt reduction so it seems that being a bit more sensible when it comes to signings is a good idea.

I'm still waiting for the explanation of the missing millions, debts down by £6m rather than £22m while operating costs and annual losses made are down. Very odd indeed.
55

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 11:35:28
#54 name calling - very mature!!
what a sad little cretin you are!

yeah and the team in sixth are "better" than the team in third...

how about you put a sock in it!?
56

Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 07/05/2009 11:47:37
#56

And that league position is achieved over all the seasons league matches, not one match.

So please tell me when has Craig Levein stated that Hearts have cheated their way to current 3rd position and therefore do not deserve to be there?

Heated comments are frequently made in the post-match period not just by Levein, but by many coaches. As I suggested earlier, which is the greater 'crime'? one made in the heat of the moment or the calculated pre-meditated type? It is obvious to any one that CL has a winning competitive mentality and sometime rash comments will be made. If you don't have the sense to realize the difference, leading you to lose a degree of respect for one of your greatest players of recent times well that's your loss.
57

The Future's Maroon,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 11:48:26
I dont care what people say in the build up to the nights match, form/injury problems go out the window on Derby day.


I would be happy with a scrappy 1-0 win, of course I would prefer much better but as it stands the three points are what we need.


p.s I have still stuck a fiver on Hearts to score 4 or more!
58

Pazuzu,

07/05/2009 11:48:36
#58 Nah-nah-nah-nah...

Aw did the nasty Pazuzu upset the Baboon?
Shame, here have a fresh sock.

GGTTH
59

Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 07/05/2009 11:56:36
#60

I hope you are right about what you say about the form book! ;)

Could do with Hibs doing us a favour......but I can't see it.
60

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 12:23:54
#59 i appreciate what your saying but the obua line was just embarrasing imo. that just sounds like a sore loser to me. its impossible to take both gloves off at once. like you say he has a winning, competitive mentality - probably why he was such a good player/manager but rash comments or not you need to have some sort of rational to what your saying.

eg do you condone drogbas actions last night? heated after match reaction. some would say he was justified. i dont think so.

yeah vlad has had some rants - but if you read them - do you disagree that scottish football is corrupt and the sfa favour the of, or the media are monkeys - this paper is clear evidence he was correct.

and i didnt lose that much respect for him - just a little as it was a pathetic comment to make whether it was after just after a match or not.

#61 yep - im crying my eyes out!!

61

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 13:04:15
#63 TotT, I'm not an accountant but those figure don't wash with me at all.

"we paid off £6m of monies due to UKIO .....shareholders funds increased by £9m ie £12m debt for equity less loss"

That just doesn't make sense. So you put £12m in to write off debt but that shows as a £9m addition to debt? Shareholders = Romanov here. And £6m due to UKIO - so these millions that we pay to Romanov's private bank this money for what?

We were told at the start of Romanov's reign that interest was no longer an issue but if £6m a year disappears my questions are (1) why we are paying so much in intrest and banking charges and is that competitive and (2) surely if these payments result in profits paid out to the shareholders of UKIO - i.e. Romanov, it's in his interest to incur huge debts at Hearts as he will personally benefit, perhaps provided the overall debt stays at a level that could be wiped out by selling the land and all the players. I'd call that a conflict of interest.

You're doing a vliant job at defending the indefensible in my view, whatever your motives.
62

busbyfh,

07/05/2009 13:14:44
# 42

Raving mental like a fox.
63

Newcastle Jambo,

07/05/2009 13:22:35
#66 That's a bit harsh on foxes is it not?
64

busbyfh,

07/05/2009 13:26:19
# 64

Levein also came out with comments two days after the game "advising" ref's to watch out for Hearts' cheating in future matches.
That was not a spur of the moment speach while still heated up.
It was a cold calculating comment designed to de-rail Hearts attempt at third place.
CL was doing his job as a manager of another club to the best of his ability - quite astutely actually. As it was coniving and aimed at being detrimental to my football team, I also took it to heart, but give him the benefit of the doubt until a second outburst comes along.
Personally I hope he keeps his gob shut as I was a great fan of him as a player and would not like him to go down in my estimation as Steven Presley has.
65

busbyfh,

07/05/2009 13:29:18
# 67

I was implying that Casbah was quite sharp/wily/astute.
I cannot see where I am wrong/harsh on foxes.

66

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 13:46:42
#64 i thought that was in the same rant - to watch out for us but if it was a day or two after then thats just bad patter!!

yeah i agree - always really liked levein even when utd gubbed us 4-0 at tynie. he acted with the upmost respect and humilty then but in a crunch game when he got beat he spat the dummy.

when you hear the way csaba conducts himself - even why trying to get drawn into saying hibs are s**te still manages to come away with dignity and even when mcghee accused him of swearing at him - i saw mcghee lips when they equalised (turned to csaba YA F***ING BEAUTY) right in his face and for csaba not to shop him back but just to ask him what he said shows the mans class!!

i have no such qualms when it comes to exposing mcghee as a tool!
67

The Falcon,

Above and watching 07/05/2009 13:52:47
#65 Relegated Newcastle Jambo

It's obvious you aren't an accountant ( but then again, HFC is hardly are football club ).

For your info ( and hopefully to see the light ) read on :

The long term viability of the club is addressed by the auditors in both 2006 and 2007.
The huge liabilities coupled with ongoing annual losses prompted the auditors to state these " .... indicate an existence of a material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern".
The 2008 accounts show that the club is still burdened with horrendous debts, this stood at £30m at 31st July 2008.
On its day to day operations the club is losing roughly £11m a year. By selling Craig Gordon, and others for nearly £10m the club managed to produce a smaller loss of only £3.5m for the year. This result cannot be matched in 2009 due to the lack of saleable players. That the club are still spending £2m more on player wages than they get in income in total is totally unsustainable. The interest payments for 2008 of over £2m are another crippling cost. The club has debts of over £30m, with no obvious way of ever paying those debts off. Overall the results are very depressing.
The second area to keep an eye on is the ratio of the wages to the income. Deloittes who do some in-depth analysis of football finances reckon the target for this ratio should be 50%. This allows the club to cope with the costs of running the business, buying the occasional player, running a youth development system, putting on games, maintaining the ground etc. In the Aberdeen accounts for 2006 a comment is made that the target 'industry recommended' target is 60%. Whichever target is used, Hearts are struggling to hit it. Only one year in the last seven have the wages been at the right sort of level. The 2007 ratio of 121% is usually only seen when clubs are in dire straits or have some external source of income that is helping them out.
The 2008 results are aga
68

The Falcon,

Above and watching 07/05/2009 13:55:42
Continuation of #71 for #65

The 2008 results are again unsustainable, however there is a glimmer of hope. As the club income dropped, then so did the wages costs. The implication is that the either the players are on performance related pay or that a number of high earners were moved out of the club. The 2009 figures will answer which this is.
69

xtrme,

07/05/2009 14:12:06
Just face it, both teams are pissh, the league is cack and neither side would be good enough for most English leagues apart from maybe the Blue Square.
70

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

07/05/2009 14:44:41
#73 on their day all the sides in the top six would beat most championship sides, and probably most teams at the bottom end of the epl.
71

busbyfh,

07/05/2009 19:07:39
Team announced - the team I have been banging my gums on here all week since ibrox. The one that should see players in their rightful places. Off to get wet.
72

Keith Mac,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 19:30:32
From my m8 in Spain:
Hola Mi amigos,
Did you read the latest propaganda in the Scotsman this morning;
Csaba says Hearts outshine hibs in every dept;
BO LL OCKS
He never said anything like that. He did say when asked a loaded question,they in his opinion Hearts had been better than the hobos
this season,no argument there.
Picture the scene;
Sub editor; Boss we have possibly ten guys out this evening,how can we stoke up the flair masters,they are at risk of a hammering....
Editor; Well we print a load of lies,we are a newspaper after all,about Csaba thinking we are useless,and denigrating the glory glory
boys,mix-up puts said article up on the changing room wall,this fires up our guys to an unexpectedly good performance. easy eh?
Sub ed;Brilliant boss,but what about the concept of impartiality?
Editor; We are Hibernian fc,we hate jam tarts and we hate dundee,and we might lose by 15 goals to three,10 offside goals and
three penalties!
73

Giuseppe Tortolano,

07/05/2009 21:35:11
ARF!

Ratboy to the rescue!

GIRUY
74

Giuseppe Tortolano,

07/05/2009 21:38:25
Not sure if they'll be enough humble pie to go round lads so only a wee bit each I'm afraid. Had to reserve a really big piece for that welt that always has CAPS LOCK on.
75

doris karloff,

07/05/2009 21:42:56
Czambles Lilo A legend in his own Lunch box

1-0 GIRFUY Jumbo boy
76

Giuseppe Tortolano,

07/05/2009 21:45:41
huggs:
"Cant remember the last time i looked forward to a match as much as this one.
Hopefully we play Nade and Elliot from the start get the game under control from the start and really go for it." ARF!

Shantaram:
"Come on Hearts. Stick 5 past the moaning, greeting, whinging Easter Road trollops." ARF!

and my personal favourite.......jamtart:
"Think you will find out tonight just how much better than you the JT'S really are. 4 or 5 would not suprize me." ARF ARF!

77

Will1875,

07/05/2009 22:00:57
Laszlo believes Hearts outshine Hibs in every department.

The only thing shining tonight is the "Sunshine on Leith"

78

Will1875,

07/05/2009 22:02:37
Distinct lack of Jambos around tonight................ Must all be crying.
79

Highland Hibby,

Inverness 07/05/2009 22:02:59
#82 you beat me to it. :-))
80

Silence of the Yams,

07/05/2009 23:33:37
...Laszlo also beleives fairies are at the bottom of his garden, and his stepmother married an alien from the planet Zog.


While the chief.....
81

MGJ,

Edinburgh 08/05/2009 10:01:52
#68 Busbyfh

I note that even Hertz fans are good divers; Riorden never touched the boy and he went down like a sack of spuds

 

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