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Published Date: 17 February 2009
HUGO Chavez and his supporters were yesterday celebrating a referendum victory that allows him to seek another term as Venezuela's president, as opponents complained that his use of state funds had made the campaign unfair.
Mr Chavez, who has been in power for ten years and plans to rule for decades, pledged to repay his supporters for Sunday's victory by combating their No 1 concern – crime.

The fragmented opposition, spearheaded by an inexperienced and under-fin
anced student movement, said the president's win had been secured with huge government funding and blanket state television coverage.

The leading opposition newspaper El Nacional ran an editorial under the headline "Another sham", which complained Venezuela's electoral commission had favoured "a military regime that promotes hatred and divides Venezuela in two halves".

Popular for spending freely on clinics, schools and food handouts in city slums and remote villages, Mr Chavez won 54 per cent of the vote, allowing him to stand for office as long as he keeps winning elections.

Teodoro Petkoff, a veteran rival, denounced Mr Chavez's "illegal and unscrupulous" use of state funds but also captured the mood of defiance in an opposition that must now seek to defeat him in a presidential election in just under four years.

"They can celebrate today, but on the horizon of 2012 looms a ghost of his inevitable defeat," Mr Petkoff said.

Mr Chavez was defeated in a similar referendum in 2007, and his victory showed his resilience and solidified his position as both the most dominant figure in Venezuelan politics and the leader of Latin America's hard-left.

With the global economic crisis overshadowing his win, Mr Chavez was cautious, telling supporters his government would not be able to accelerate its drive to create a socialist state this year. But he did promise to combat crime and corruption.



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  • Last Updated: 16 February 2009 9:51 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Venezuela
 
1

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 00:35:48
And soon to follow will be his 9 point program to install nuclear weapons with a gateway to Iran and Korea, while the people have no milk.
2

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/02/2009 00:49:51
If the people are concerned that Chavez isn't giving them milk then they should have voted against him. It is a democracy after all.
3

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 00:55:36
It's not a 'democracy'
He controls the press.
4

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/02/2009 01:05:51
#4 If you read the article, you'll find that simply isn't true;
'The leading opposition newspaper El Nacional'
5

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/02/2009 01:07:33
And they held an election, that makes it a democracy.
6

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 01:15:53

Which says:
..."The leading opposition newspaper El Nacional ran an editorial under the headline "Another sham", ...

Sham from the word 'shame' means fake, and a shame

when you starve the people, and then offer them food, they vote for the empty and shameful promise of free food.

Venezuela has a lot of problems with hunger and it's going to be much worse because of reduced oil production and reduced sales and price
7

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/02/2009 01:24:53
I'm sure the people of Venezuela know what's good for them without your interfering advice.
8

SouthernGent,

17/02/2009 02:13:48
Or do they???

My teenager continues to think he knows what is best as well.
9

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 02:26:12
This vote was done before the food supply and the cash flow stops.
The poor citizens of the country, which is the majority, (what a surprise), voted for Chavez because he gives them free stuff and free cash. Another surprise.

The Wall Street Journal did an analysis of the Venezuelan economy, and concluded that for Chavez, it's a ticking time bomb.

10

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 02:27:19
@9
My teenager thinks I'm the source of free food, housing and transportation.
11

SouthernGent,

17/02/2009 02:57:57
11

Aah, the joys of sex.
12

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17/02/2009 03:12:42
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Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 03:20:25
@13

Um, the quote is from the article written by the Scotsman? Are you calling the Scotsman a fool?
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/02/2009 03:53:30
'The poor citizens of the country, which is the majority, (what a surprise), voted for Chavez because he gives them free stuff and free cash. Another surprise.'

So? Do poor people's votes not count?

If he gave free money to the rich, the right wing in the UK and US would love him.
15

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/02/2009 03:55:37
'The Wall Street Journal did an analysis of the Venezuelan economy, and concluded that for Chavez, it's a ticking time bomb.'

You could reach that conclusion for just about every country in the world, except for some where it's already exploded.
16

Damarcus,

17/02/2009 04:36:04
A interview with Teodoro Petkoff is a former leftist revolutionary and Cabinet minister in Venezuela

Q. "Chavez is sending signals that he wants better relations with the United States. Is he sincere?"

A. "Chavez would love to have another Bush in the White House. He was a gift from God for someone like Chavez. But with Obama, Chavez will have to act with prudence and intelligence. He knows he can't treat Obama the same way as Bush. He knows Obama is intelligent and flexible and will manage the empire with less stupidity than Bush did"

Ha, what an accurate response, Obama is intelligent and Bush is stupid, how true indeed!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-venez-q-a17-2009feb17,0,1990301.story
17

Finnking,

Lempäälä 17/02/2009 09:56:45
Carolyn: "He controls the press."--LMAO!

The "poor" weren't even counted, their living areas not even on the maps prior to Chavaz. Perhaps had the US supported democracy in the region and not aided in coups that were anti-democratic, Chavez would be further ahead in his task to lift the seriously poor up a rung by giving them acces to eduction and policy making that was deneid by the previous US supported governments.

"The Wall Street Journal did an analysis of the Venezuelan economy, and concluded that for Chavez, it's a ticking time bomb." (Carolyn)

---How was the Wall Street Journal on the subject of the ticking time bomb of US economy? Still, with millions now getting education and decent health care(which was what the people wanted; gosh that's democracy!)the inherent benefits to 'economy' will be far down the line. No short term profit in health and education; that's why the US and 'uk' governments prefer to ingore what people want and spend huge amounts of tax payers' cash on weapons systems.

"Sham from the word 'shame' means fake, and a shame"---LMAO!




18

Sedov,

Barnsley 17/02/2009 11:21:08
This election which 67% of the people voted was on class issues and has clearly given Chavez a mandate to continue the reforms that he has carried out over the past ten years. He has put himself and his programme up for election more than any western leader.

This is a major piece of world news that the Scotsman has almost ignored and will have an impact throughout all the Americas

The impact of achievements such as Barrio Adentro and CDI (free basic healthcare centres in poor neighbourhoods), misiones (free educational and other social services programmes), the Bolivarian Universities (allowing access to thousands of previously excluded students, mainly urban poor and working-class youth), etc. have raised the standards of living for thousands of the poorest people of Venezuela that the previous USA backed regimes could never and did not want to tackle.
However, the present world economic crisis is hitting the economy very hard and will have an effect on the continued programme of reforms from below. Inflation is running at 30% and food prices are rising fast.
The commanding heights of the Venezuelan economy remains in the hands of the capitalists many of whom are trying, along with US support, to undermine the changes brought about by the PSV . They will continue to plot a counter revolution from the many reactionary forces who remain in Venezuela and who fear that their land and wealth created by the very people who are now voting for change will be taken away from them.
6 million people voted for real socialism, Chavez must deliver this as soon as possible before the US can attempt another Chile. This would set an example for all South America to follow.

It will be interesting to see how Obama will deal with this threat on his doorstep, and the millions of Us latinos who supported him will be watching his every move.

Viva Chavez, long live the revolution! The times they are a changin’
19

thatscottishman,

17/02/2009 12:02:07
#4 Carolyn 1

It's not a 'democracy'
He controls the press.

So does Obama
20

thatscottishman,

17/02/2009 12:04:25
#19 Troll
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Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 12:25:03
It's interesting, that when I complain there isn't enough food for the poor in Venezuela, and there isn't, I'm gored: Should I be happy a large percentage of the Venezuela population has no jobs, not enough food and the basics?

The WSJ time bomb reference is that if Chavez does not find a way to get some cash, to buy food, there will be riots.
He doesn't even have the cash to pay for drilling, which means future income will drop even lower, not higher. That spells Tough Times ahead.
22

SouthernGent,

17/02/2009 13:17:52
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"that's why the US and 'uk' governments prefer to ingore what people want and spend huge amounts of tax payers' cash on weapons systems"

Last I checked, Chavez was doing his share of spending huge amounts on weapons systems as well.

We can all pick and choose to make our arguments, it doesn't make him right.
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17/02/2009 14:41:04
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 14:43:22
#23 His concern for the poor is genuine and knows no borders.

"Chavez Continues to Send Oil to U.S. Poor
Chavez to Keep up Venezuelan Heating Aid for U.S. Poor Despite Downturn"
ABC News Jan. 8th 2009.

Viva Chavez !
25

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 15:09:02
A Clamper @ 26
And what is noble about shipping oil off to another country at a low price, when you can earn a higher price, ..while your own people have no food or jobs or money?
Explain that to me.
Thanking you kindly...
26

SouthernGent,

17/02/2009 16:08:03
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You discredit yourself when you blame everything on Bush. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself beyond the last 8 years. A little research and less parroting will do wonders for you.

26
His "oil for the poor" is nothing but a political ploy to doop the weak minded. If he cared at all, you have to ask yourself why he doesn't supply it to the poor of all the other countries. Purely propoganda and seems to be working on some of the posters on this thread.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 16:12:47
#27 "no food or jobs or money" ? Now there's a sweeping statement if ever I saw one. So, everyone in Venezuela is starving to death are they ? Read on...

"For 10 years, under Chávez's presidency, the country has seen greater democracy and social progress than at any time in its history. The population want Chávez to stay in power to address the most intractable problems, especially in cities, left by previous regimes with the same vigour that his government has already shown in fields like health and education."
Guardian 17th February 2009.

You just don't get it do you. I realise it must be difficult for you to understand that there are people on this planet who wish to help the poor at the expense of multi-national companies who have ripped of the poor of Latin America for generations, but Chavez is one such person. He has gone one step further and helped the poor of your own country.
The people understand what he has achieved and what more he can do for them, if given the chance. That's why they voted for him.

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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 16:41:40
#28"you have to ask yourself why he doesn't supply it to the poor of all the other countries."

Under the Venezuelan Petro-Caribe agreement he does.
Jamaica,Cuba,The Dominican Republic,Nicaragua,Barbuda,
Antigua and others benefit to the extent that funding to the Carribean now exceeds both EU and USAID funding by a wide margin.
29

SouthernGent,

17/02/2009 16:50:26
30
Thats a very small group of nations (numerically and physically). Why not Brazil, the EU, etc.

Its pure politics. Sticking his finger in the eye of his enemy. Nothing more.
30

Carolyn 1,

17/02/2009 17:12:15
I'm at work under a heavy schedule, so you can google USAID and figure out how many millions the US has spent in Venezuela since 2002. It doesn't make Chavez happy that the US helps the people there, so I guess he's not the benevolent wonderful dictator you make him out to be

http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/cross-cutting_programs/transition_initiatives/country/venezuela/rpt1208.html
31

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 17:14:14
#31 This week it was the Pacific island nation of Fiji that Chavez’ government designated as its next beneficiary, saying it wanted to help build a refinery to ease that country’s high cost of fuel imports, according to the Xinhua news agency.
But Fiji should, as the Mexicans say, wait sitting down.
There are six, eight , maybe a dozen countries ahead of it in line for a promised Venezuelan-financed refinery. Brazil, Jamaica, Panama, India are just a few. None of these foreign plants are under construction although the Brazilian project set for the northeastern state of Pernambuco, a joint venture with Brazil’s Petrobras, is said to be in the feasibility study stage.
RIO DE JANEIRO: While some of the world's largest oil producers, including Mexico and Iran, are struggling to remain exporters, Brazil is moving in the opposite direction. A huge underwater oil field discovered late last year has the potential to transform South America's largest country into a sizable exporter and win it a seat at the table of the world's oil cartel.
Los Angeles Times 2008.

Is that enough for you or maybe you would like him to give it all to the U.S. ?
32

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 17:24:40
#32 I sure can google USAID and see why Chavez isn't happy with the organisation, or should that be "The Company"....

United States Agency for International Development (USAID):

The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) functions as an instrument of CIA penetration into civil society, by enabling the “legitimate” funding of millions of dollars to promote U.S. foreign policy abroad and influence internal politics of foreign nations while avoiding Congressional scrutiny.
33

SouthernGent,

17/02/2009 17:48:56
33
And how many of those deals depended on oil at $140 a barrel? He has his hands full trying to control a rising crime rate, super high inflation, and business investment thats fleeing like the end is in sight.

His nationalization has driven out foreign investment, the life blood of many an economy.
34

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 18/02/2009 14:26:38
#35 He does have his hands full, thanks to the failure of previous U.S. backed administrations, but he is tackling poverty, and is making sure the countrys' wealth is not going to be squandered on the rich.
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Carolyn 1,

18/02/2009 16:18:58
A Clamper

Chavez controls the press.
If that is what you call Freedom of the Press, your definition needs redefining:

According to The Economist: “Public buildings and vehicles were plastered with pro-Chávez propaganda. State television and radio channels turned over almost their entire resources to promoting the campaign. And even the Caracas metro obliged passengers to listen to campaign jingles. Chávez ordered that demonstrations against the referendum were to be broken up “with a good dose of gas.
Freedom of the press is a memory in Venezuela. Newspapers and electronic media that opposed Chávez have been harassed. The 2004 “Law on the Social Responsibility of Radio and Television” requires all outlets to carry Chávez’s speeches in full, contains penalties for a variety of offenses and insults, and permits licenses to be revoked for a second offense. Globovision, a private 24-hour cable news channel, was recently accused of insulting Chávez. Pro-Chávez legislators have urged the attorney general to investigate. Meanwhile, thugs linked to the government lobbed tear-gas canisters into the newsroom. RCTV, the second-largest television channel in the country, was closed down altogether in 2007.....

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SouthernGent,

18/02/2009 22:28:47
36
"thanks to the failure of previous U.S. backed administrations,"

Hardly. The problems I mentioned have all happened on his watch. He will be another Mugabe with his inflation creating policies. Then, the poor he is "helping" will receive the same "help" as the poor in Zimbabwe.
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19/02/2009 01:11:57
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CaroIyn,

13/03/2009 01:54:44
Chavez is a troublemaker.

 

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