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Published Date: 25 April 2008
BANNING smoking completely in Beijing is "impossible" but the city will do its best to ensure a smoke-free environment for the Olympics, officials said yesterday.
New regulations ban smoking in sports venues, parks, on public transport and in schools but restaurants and hotels are exempted.

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  • Last Updated: 24 April 2008 10:59 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Mashimaro,

China 25/04/2008 01:17:36
Now we just have to get the euros to stop too.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 25/04/2008 01:50:43
'BANNING smoking completely in Beijing is "impossible" ...'

Not so. It is entirely possible. As in Scotland, Hong Kong achieved it without fuss in 2006 and it's a pleasure to eat (and breathe) in HK restaurants these days. Well done Hong Kong.

Unlike continental Europe though, where smoking is still regarded as part of the "culture". I spent a choking month in Hungary recently and my (totally unscientific) survey figured that 90+ percent of the population smokes. Yuk.

Some way to go yet, rest of the world.

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britfreee,

25/04/2008 03:19:27
FYI.. Horrible Cankers is a Troll.
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britfreee,

25/04/2008 03:20:30
Actually anyone that is friendly with Djookers is a Troll.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 25/04/2008 03:41:42
#3 and #4

No disagreement there, but where are those vile personages on this thread?

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britfreee,

25/04/2008 04:03:56
5 Fanling

Just getting ready for them and their fake ID's.
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Guga II,

Rockall 25/04/2008 05:34:47
#1 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit).

They are never going to get the Chinese to stop smoking (without the thugs from the PLA threatening them), nor are they going to be able to stop them spitting in the street. So, don't try coming the holier than thou attitude; it doesn't wash.

That reminds me of that Spike Milligan ditty:

There was a young man from Darjeeling,
That boarded a bus at Ealing,
It said on the door,
Do not spit on the floor,
So he stood up and spat on the ceiling.
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tomi,

25/04/2008 06:19:19
Why should any government want to ban smoking when they all can get so much tax income from cigarettes?

If they really want to be honest, cancel all taxes on cigarettes,and just ban them.

But, why should smokers be bothered? Even if draconian penalties were imposed for smoking, could they be any worse than cigarettes themselves can impose? Sickness, cancer, even death?
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Guga II,

Rockall 25/04/2008 07:21:06
#8 tomi. Believe it or not, but you've got to die of something. Anyway, better to die young and leave a good looking corpse than to end up being treated like sh1t in some old folks home.
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Mashimaro,

China 25/04/2008 07:42:06
Gooo goooo - nice way to work in "thugs".
However, I'll just refer you to Fanling's post. It was done in Hong Kong and can be done elsewhere.
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Robert Feal-Martinez,

Swindon 25/04/2008 09:08:23
How amusing, a smoke ban enacted in Scotland without a problem. What a laugh, thousands of signatures on Petitions, a very active pressure group, still fighting. freedom2choose.info, and thousands now seeing their lives destroyed, many being non smokers who have lost their jobs, and for what, an increase in smoking. Some success story that is.
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Mashimaro,

25/04/2008 09:21:35
#11 You spew more pollution than drifts around Beijing. Athletes will not get ill, this is just a dumb rumour. You have to be in this pollution a lot longer than they will to get ill. The pollution will lighten when the factories are shut down. Now...SHOO!
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Mashimaro,

China 25/04/2008 10:37:01
Bobbie boy, it's ALL China, dude. You really have to get over Vietnam, Laos, Korea. The world has moved on since then, try to keep up with it.
Despotic pariah thugs might run China but you government is begging them for money - take the shame.
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 25/04/2008 11:33:42
I thought the Chinese were communists, not nazis.
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Guga II,

Rockall 25/04/2008 13:05:45
Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit)

I notice you didn't make any comment about the habit the Chinese have of spitting in the street. Why is that?

As for Hong Kong, they still smoke and spit in the streets too. Maybe they don't do it any longer in tourist hotels, but they still do it.

I also like your admission that "Despotic pariah thugs might run China". As I told you before, you are destined to remain as a low level political cadre when you make statements like that about your masters. They could even end up taking your internet privileges away, and treat you like an ordinary Chinese, i.e. worse than a dog.

Incidentally with you claim that it's all China, including Vietnam, Laos and Korea, I assume that that is an open admission that your gangster government wants to lay claim to all the Asian and South-East Asian countries, and not just Tibet? You already claim Inner Mongolia, and no doubt you'll be adding Outer Mongolia to the list soon enough. This is all too much like "Ein Volk, Ein Reich", isn't it? Even Mousey Dung never went that far.
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should have gone to specsavers,

Thurso 25/04/2008 15:22:39
#18:
>> I have sent this thread by e-mail to the People's >> Daily to ask them to print it. I've even translated >> it for them!

aw cheers, now people in china can read how embarassingly blatantly vitriolic we are about other countries :(
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Taz,

The Land of the Free. 25/04/2008 16:47:04
The Chinese smoke during their meals. I kid you not.
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25/04/2008 17:27:57
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Jewel of the Forth,

Fife 25/04/2008 19:13:07
21 Honourable Chairman M D, AKA Horrible Cankers

Why do you not have the courage to post with your real name when posting such filth?
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 25/04/2008 20:26:23
#6 britfreee
And how right you were ... the mere word "China" is blue touch paper to the predictables whose argument is based on shouting insults over and again. Reason goes out of the window when hysteria is the name of the game. I feel embarrassed for Scotland when I read some of the more unreasoned crap regularly posted here. Anybody can hurl insults. Not everybody can conduct - or is prepared to conduct - a sensible rational argument, as it abundantly appears on here.

#24 Jewel of the Forth,Fife
Anybody and everybody recognises the irrational spew that emanates from the fat cyberdyke, no matter how many mames it posts under. What a pestilence that thing is. Referring to my opening para and the bit about feeling embarrassed for Scotland when low-life like that purports to speak for my country.
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25/04/2008 21:12:00
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Gordon lying traitor scum,

Fife 25/04/2008 21:44:49
Oh, I see. Communist China to ban smoking too. Now we're all living in a socialist hell.


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25/04/2008 21:48:33
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Landman,

25/04/2008 22:11:46
27 Gordon lying traitor scum

Sorry to hear you are an addict to nicotine. Personally I can't stand the stench, not just the smell of the smoke, the worst part is the odor that sticks to the smoker that you guys can't smell because you lost most of your sense of smell. The odor on your hands and the odor coming from your lungs long after your last fag is awful.

I could really care less about the extra time on this earth I’m going to get by banning of rude people smoking in pubic, I’m just glad the awful odor is not as bad as it was. They should pass a new law where people have to blow into a tube before entering pubic places and if the machine detects the stench of a fag because you have smoked in the past 10 minutes it won’t let you in.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 25/04/2008 22:17:05
#26 Moreen,Scotsdale, AZ
Deficient IQ plays its own part there, as all can see.

#29 Landman
LOL! Agree. IMO, the passing and residual stink of cigarettes is the second worst stench on earth. (No prizes for guessing the worst.)

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Fanling,

Hong Kong 25/04/2008 22:50:24
#20 Taz,The Land of the Free
"The Chinese smoke during their meals. I kid you not"

Sensational. Here's a correction: SOME Chinese (males, invariably) smoke during their meals. (I kid you not also.) I find the habit disgusting if I am in range, mainly because I loathe the stink of cigarette smoke, especially when I'm having a meal.

But this persistent use of "The Chinese" really needs to be modified by those that fling it around as if to embrace all. It's a bit like "The Scots", in for example, all eat deep-fried Mars Bars. I never saw a deep-fried Mars Bar in my (Scottish) life nor have I known anyone who has.

Generalisation is a classic get-out when the argument is thin.

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Fanling,

Hong Kong 26/04/2008 02:10:21
#32
Passing by on my way to better things ... Why the f*ck do you need to use your stupid euphemism for my username when it is simpler to type it? Pet cuddly name (I don't think), or merely your more recognisable cerebral bypass?

Whatever, I am not one and the same anybody you allege
above, even if you personally feel the need to adopt such obvious alternative names. Your disguises are poor, like the vapid comment that gushes out of them.

Stuff your usual Punchdrunk Llama and boycott the Lembit Opik endnotes. My god, you are a pitiful case.



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Browards,

26/04/2008 02:25:26
33 Fanling,Hong Kong

Horrible Cankers is a nuisance, she gets her jollies by annoying others. Ignore the Cybertroll and just ask for her offensive harrassing comments to be removed if they warrant it.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 26/04/2008 05:00:39
#34 Browards
I generally ignore that HC freak-show. Her perception of reality is grounded in histrionics, like her half-dozen screaming bosom buddies on these threads. (Just don't dare to have an opposite view, especially one based on personal experience for it will be twisted out of recognition.)

It seems though that others again are removing her rantings. I don't, preferring that the saner public can see and make its own mind up. Not such a difficult task.
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Mashimaro,

26/04/2008 11:07:57
#18 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Bob you seriously bore me, innit?
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Mashimaro,

China 26/04/2008 11:13:47
Hey Fanling, is the weather good now? Is HK excited about the torch?
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26/04/2008 12:18:02
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Stonefield,

26/04/2008 13:09:08
38 Horrible Cankers the liar Troll

I am hurt you did not include me in your paranoid list of posters.
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26/04/2008 14:13:15
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 26/04/2008 14:14:16
#40 Stonefield

Patience. Your turn will no doubt come. From what I hear, you would be even more hurt if that sad and unlovely exhibit fell on you.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 26/04/2008 14:53:02
#37 Mashimaro
Weather fine thanks. Unlike on these boards wherever that cankerous heap of filth emerges from its dark place to shout names, school playground-style, as its first and last resort.

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Mashimaro,

China 26/04/2008 16:08:17
#43, I'll be there in a bit. Quite looking forward to all the "freedom" I'll be experiencing. I don't know how I will cope with the heady excitement of being able to log on to the internet all by myself *wink*. I would say we should hook up for a drink but problem with being a journo is you never know if you'll keep an appointment.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 26/04/2008 18:18:40
#44
Another time then. Off back to the greyness of European parts next week in any case. Just mind you don't injure a wrist or fall off your chair in shock logging on in HK. You will be connected to the internet first go, just as you are on the mainland.
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26/04/2008 23:20:00
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26/04/2008 23:20:35
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27/04/2008 00:02:38
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

28/04/2008 16:11:00
45....Aye...dont injure a wrist, we wouldnae want that noo, wid we?...heh heh heh heh heh.....
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Mashimaro,

China 30/04/2008 11:04:50
Fanling, Hong Kong is a great city. You are lucky to live here.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

30/04/2008 23:10:07
Aye...great diners...heh heh heh heh heh heh....

 

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