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Published Date: 01 December 2008
MORE bodies were delivered to the main mosque in the central Nigerian city of Jos yesterday, as the death toll from two days of clashes between Christian and Muslim gangs rose to about 400.
Rival ethnic and religious mobs burned homes, shops, mosques and churches in fighting triggered by a disputed local election in a city at the crossroads of Nigeria's Muslim north and Christian south. It is the country's worst unrest for years.

Mur
tala Sani Hashim, who has been registering the dead as they are brought to the main mosque, said he had listed 367 bodies, and more were arriving. Ten corpses wrapped in blankets, two of them infants, lay behind him.

A doctor at one of the city's main hospitals said he had received 25 corpses and 154 injured since the unrest began.

"Gunshot wounds, machete injuries, those are the two main types," Dr Aboi Madaki, director of clinical services at Jos University Teaching Hospital, said.

The overall toll was expected to be higher, with some victims already buried and others taken to other clinics.

The violence appeared to die down yesterday, as soldiers patrolled on foot and in jeeps to enforce a 24-hour curfew imposed on the worst-hit areas. People who ventured out walked with their hands in the air to show they were unarmed.

"They are still picking up dead bodies outside. Some areas were not reachable until now," said Al Mansur, 53, a farmer, who said all the homes around his had been razed.

Overturned and burnt-out vehicles littered the streets, while several churches, a block of houses and an Islamic school in one neighbourhood had been destroyed by fire.

Hundreds of women and children carrying plastic jerrycans searched the streets for functioning water taps.

The clashes between gangs of Muslim Hausas and mostly Christian youths began early on Friday and were provoked by a disputed local election, after rumours spread that the ANPP party candidate, backed by Hausas, had lost the race to the ruling PDP.

"The PDP provided an all-Christian ticket. They started the trouble because they couldn't win," said Samaila Abdullahi Mohammed, a spokesman for the Imam at the main mosque.

He accused the security forces of heavy-handed tactics. "As far as we are concerned, we have stopped the violence, but the police have not," he said.

The Red Cross said some 7,000 people had fled their homes and were sheltering in government buildings, an army barracks and religious centres. A senior police official said 523 people had been detained.

Nigeria's 140 million population is roughly equally split between Muslims and Christians and the communities generally live peacefully side by side. Displaced people from both religions sheltered together in impromptu camps around Jos.

But ethnic and religious tensions in the country's central "Middle Belt" run deep, rooted in resentment from indigenous minority groups, mostly Christian or animist, towards migrants and settlers from the Hausa-speaking Muslim north.

Hundreds were killed in ethnic-religious fighting in Jos in 2001. Hundreds more died in 2004 in nearby Yelwa.

Unrest in the region has, in the past, triggered reprisals in other areas of the country. But the security forces appear to have reacted more quickly to contain the violence in Jos this time, with the army sending in reinforcements from neighbouring states.

BACKGROUND

THOUSANDS have died in religious and ethnic violence in Nigeria since the start of the decade.

The latest fighting comes as the country's president, Umaru Yar'Adua, faces mounting criticism over the slow progress being made by his administration after 18 months in office. Violence continues to plague the oil-producing Niger Delta region, an intermittent power supply remains a major hindrance to the country's growth and a drawn-out cabinet reshuffle and weeks of delays to the government's 2009 budget have heightened political uncertainty.







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  • Last Updated: 30 November 2008 10:16 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 04:01:27
Ah, the clash of religions, there's nothing like killing in the name of God, kind of justifies everything.
2

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 01/12/2008 04:18:32
Wow, isn't religion just great.
3

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 01/12/2008 05:40:51
The Christian population are indigenous to the are.The Muslim Hausa are late-comers to the area.Sound familiar?
4

Boy Wonder,

01/12/2008 07:42:10
More killing in the name of these two Religions of Peace? Both claim to worship the same god, under different names. So how do they justify that?

Both are proselytising faiths, seeking converts. As long as they do that, there will be conflict.

And truthfully they're both just fronts for criminals and killers!!!
5

Calum Crubag,

01/12/2008 08:11:02
Another example of why religion should be binned. The fact is that faith/ belief without reason or evidence can be used to justify anything.

Politics can be used to twist people too but the evidence as to whether it's right or wrong is plain to see and can be proved/ disproved. As for religion, all the main books preace hatred to some extent and if someone's 'faith' tells him to kill, how can you prove otherwise?

Ban relgion in schools too. We want kids who think and question - not kids who soak up superstitious poison and mumbo jumbo.
6

Calum Crubag,

01/12/2008 08:12:49
#3 - I doubt that Christianity is 'indigenous' to any part of Africa. Most of the native cultures have pagan/ animistic religion going back tens of thousands of years much like the Aborginies of Australia.

Christianity was only the first murderous invader.
7

Mcsnagpile,

01/12/2008 09:25:49
Using religion for a political power base has been or is being done everywhere.Watch out for the pony tail fly swatters.
8

Finnking,

Lempäälä 01/12/2008 09:42:02
Dragonhead

Islam arrived there in the 11th C and Christianity in the 17thC. Still, don't let such facts get in the way of your feelings towards Islam.

Mcsnagpile is correct: It's not religion itself that causes such devastation. In many areas of the world various religions live happily together.It's the abuse of religious feelings by power that is the problem here.
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Graham Weeks,

London 01/12/2008 10:46:06
Plateau indigenees resisted Islamic conquest prior to the arrival of the British colonists in 1900. Lugard allowed Christian missionaries to work only in areas he deemed not to be under the control of the Emirs. So under the British both Christian missionaries and Islamic traders or pastoralists could come to the Plateau. Local people preferred the Christian gospel to Islam and still do.
10

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01/12/2008 10:51:52
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Jay Kay,

01/12/2008 10:54:17
#5 Calum, totally agree mate, nothing angers me more than all these bl**dy religions, its the biggest con ever perpetrated on mankind, the Catholic faith is simply another mass control for the weak minded, a means to extract their wealth and keep it for the few. After all, the Vatican bank? explain that to me? why a religion needs this much wealth? Does the bible not preach that man should live a simple life and not worship false idols? Well money is the biggest Idol of them all and these barstewards are all as guilty as h*ll of trying to rule the world, just not in a Doctor evil kinda way. Chrisitanity, same p*sh different twist, muslim and all the others ditto.

Ban it all for the good of mankind. Ban it in schools and teach more science, maths, biology, you know something useful, something that actually advances the human race, not tries to pull us back into the dark ages. Lets face it this is a very big universe and the quicker we get out there and off this rock the better, maybe if mankind was spread out a bit more, maybe he wouldnt be so keen to start wars. Thats START not STAR.

Just think of all the planets out there thats might contain all the things were are very shortly going to start to run out of here on earth. If we continue to grow the way we have and advance as quicly as we have we are sure as h*ll going to suddenly come up against an immovable obstacle, it might be lack of food to feed the population, not enough minerals to sustain an ever growing population, we are going to need more if we are to survive and its all out there just waiting to be mined.

Religion should be outlawed totally.
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Cheradenine,

Edinburgh 01/12/2008 11:15:07
If people want to kill other people enough they will find an excuse. Religion has been a popular one in the past but so have various types of nationalism, ethnic differences, conflicting global paradigms and history (both true and false).

Different excuses are often used to back each other up but conflicts are usually about power. All you need to get one going is enough people desperate enough to believe your excuse is worth fighting for.

This has an awful lot more to do with broken democracy than with religion. Someone obviously thinks they can snatch power in a local election using a mob and are using some backward version of religious teaching as an excuse to get people going.

Outlawing religion would not stop them.

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01/12/2008 11:17:51
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Strict Ivan Jellicoe,

Renfrew 01/12/2008 11:49:05
Do you think that if you took religion out of this situation that the fighting would stop?
Don't be so naive!
Wars aren't fought over religion - wars are fought over greed - ALL wars!
If you binned the 10 commandments, what would you replace them with?
15

Number 6,

Germany 01/12/2008 11:57:59
It's ignorance and poverty that cause these kind of
incidents. Africa, has it's own tribal problems were religion has nothing to do with mass violence.

Education education education is the answer. Just look ast the kind of knuckle dragging trash that constantly tries to cause religious divide in Scotland,it's pure ignorance, nothing else.

If people followed the tennants of religion then there would be no violence. Look at the 2 world wars we have
had. Nothing to do with religion yet millions engaged in violence for years.

Don't use this as an excuse to demonise religion, it wont work.
16

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01/12/2008 12:36:10
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Calum Crubag,

01/12/2008 12:47:33
I don't hate any religion any more than those who worship stone circles or fairies. Except the religious usually show a worrying lack of understanding for anyone who doesn't worship THEIR God - hence, the Christian God is a jealous god, as the Bible claims.

Yeah, people will always fight but only 'beleif without reason or evidence' can excuse it. Most breaches of morality are evident by their lack of logic or common sense experience of the way things are. Religion doesn't work that way. If your book says that white is black, then that's it.

This is a ridiculous way to live in the 21st C.
18

Calum Crubag,

01/12/2008 12:50:43
#16 - Hitler was a Catholic and apparently in Mein Kamph states the Bible as his source of inspiration. All relgion - even the native pagan ones - are equally ludicrous.

It's funny how we all take science for granted when it comes to doctors, medicines, computers, cars etc but then some folk want the laws of physics and science to be suspened so that they can indulge in fantastic theories of supernatural beings?
19

oder,

Somewhere in Africa 01/12/2008 12:55:10
unfortunately people still make the same mistake over and over again Islam is both religion and politics and cannot be separated, therefore all you people(atheists) who bang on about all religions are the same are totally wrong! there may be similarities but that doesn't make them identical twins! and its another misconception that man would stop killing each other if no religions existed since man killing man is part of his animal instinct, an atheist will kill just as quick as the next man if he is threatened ,so it is human behavior that needs changed not his beliefs! many religions try to impose moral and ethical standards on their followers as do governments today in countries by enacting laws etc and with limited success although many crimes have been committed by man on man, not all wars are caused by religions! not even half of all wars! go back through history Genghis Khan,Attila,the Romans Alexander the great, the Vikings none of these men killed in any Gods name and there are many more! the Prophet ordered atheist to be killed! easy to see why the atheist's come from secular countries! if religions are the same would it not be appropriate to treat atheists the same manner as they do in Islamic states?
good job for atheists we are not the same eh! at least in the Christian world your allowed live! and your unbelief respected.
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01/12/2008 12:59:02
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POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 13:27:54
#18 Calum Crubag,
It's nice to see a voice of reason visiting these threads, you have it well figured out, but the religious sort will try and persecute you now and damn you throughout all of eternity.
Religion is a business, and a nice and neat profitable one at that, sheltered from tax and all they sell is some screwed up promise of a better place. Come and buy a ticket for the bus to heaven folks, the more you pay the nicer the bus and the quicker you get there. Also if you don't come to our church then you're not a true believer, for we are the only true church, the rest are frauds. What a ludicrous joke and an expensive one at that.
22

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 01/12/2008 14:24:46

The problem is not just religion but MEN and religion.

I am a man but we would be fools to think these problems are not about male pride about their way being the right way.

All religions are nonsense and all can be traced through history changing with the social conditions of the time. Borrowing bits from each other and promising what can never be provably delivered.

Islam on the otherhand is not just a religion it is a legal framework, social contract, military strategy book and a theological guide.

In this casae the violence happened as is often the case with Islam when things did not go as they wanted.

Compare religions and violence in society and you will find Islam has different issues in difference countries but always the same answer. Bloodshed.

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An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 01/12/2008 14:37:01
Vincent W - As ever you defend your religion with the claim that other people lack the knoweldge of the great works and therefore cannot comment. I am sure people like Callum and myself have read more religions variety than almost the entire congregation at most churches. That is one of the things with realists we check many, many sources in a very thorough manner. Yours are all based on the original flawed bible.

The bible can be read and understood by athiests as well as christians. Maybe if you took away your rose tinted glasses you would see it for what it is. Made up stories inaccurately passed by word of mouth until eventually written down by people 2000 years ago.

Not very practicle way of passing on wisdom. The old testement is considered nonsense yet the players of the new testement took it as the true word of god!

Please tell me Vincent-W how is the Catholic Faith currently dealing with the existence of the Devil? Does he still exist? Is he retired ?

24

Number 6,

Germany 01/12/2008 14:41:19
#19 Hitler was not a practising catholic (you can't be born into a religion it's all about faith).

He certainly did not follow the tennants of the bible.
25

Number 6,

Germany 01/12/2008 14:46:16
Incidentally, I am an atheist, despite a Catholic school education.
26

Bele's bane,

Scotland 01/12/2008 14:54:16
Simple solution, proscribe worship of the intolerant Asian God that the Christians, Muslims and Jews worship!

Ever since tolerant Pagan Europe was froced to embrace the worship of the crucified Jewish Rabi we, too have killed more in his name than in our ancient tribal wars!
27

Ewan Oosami,

01/12/2008 16:29:14
No religion is based on fact so why everyone thinks their religion is paramount escapes me. Religion has caused more deaths in the human race than all other factors combined.
28

Cheradenine,

Edinburgh 01/12/2008 17:45:58
#28 "No religion is based on fact. Only sweeping assertions that I provide no evidence for are based on fact."

Complete and utter nonsense.
29

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

01/12/2008 19:18:26

I think that we need to let all of these petty gods to fight it out among themselves and leave humanity out of it !
30

oder,

Somewhere in Africa 01/12/2008 19:21:51
28 Ewan Oosami,01

religions are based on some facts and a mixture of half truths and pure fantasy! unlike atheism it is pure guess work! and cannot prove at all that God does not exist any more than believers can prove he does! your faith in no God is equal to any adherent who believes in his God so! all you atheists are in reality not much different to believers no matter how you sing your tune! after all if there was no belief in God by some there would be no reason for atheists to exist!
31

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

01/12/2008 19:32:55

If these great "instigator" gods can't behave themselves then I think we need to replace the entire lot ! They all seem to have the devil in 'em !
32

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 01/12/2008 19:33:56
Many of my friends, acquaintances, and professional colleagues are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic - you name it.

I think this is the case of many people who are out and about in society at work or school or whatever.

We haven't hacked or massacred each other yet and I seriously doubt we ever will because we are just trying to get through each day in peace and harmony and trying to maintain our sanity as we read of these worlwide atrocities committed in the name of "religion".
33

oder,

Some where in Africa 01/12/2008 19:36:22
D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

there is no guarantee that would ensure peace!
34

radge dug,

01/12/2008 19:40:33
Education?

The religous only want indoctrination. Why can't they leave kids alone until they're old enough to make a reasoned and informed opinion. Teach kids to think and not to swallow any old claptrap - even if it is written in auld books and followed by loads of sheep.
35

radge dug,

01/12/2008 19:40:34
Education?

The religous only want indoctrination. Why can't they leave kids alone until they're old enough to make a reasoned and informed opinion. Teach kids to think and not to swallow any old claptrap - even if it is written in auld books and followed by loads of sheep.
36

oder,

Some where in Africa 01/12/2008 19:56:14
32 D. Feste - Illyria, OH,01

If these great "instigator" gods can't behave themselves then I think we need to replace the entire lot ! They all seem to have the devil in 'em !

well its the atheists that feel that way but the haven't come up with any suggestions,if you want change one should have an idea to what that change should be, atheists appear to be blank on that part of the subject!
37

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

01/12/2008 20:08:06

You don't need to be an athiest in order to see the
silly attributes that we have ascribed to our "gods," such as. . "I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt have no other gods before ME !" Indeed !

A petty, jealous god ? Can't believe in this one, sorry to say ! Not a great role model for human behavior.

Being "blank" on the subject of which god to believe in may be exactly what is called for !

38

American,

01/12/2008 20:19:20
muslims killing muslims
muslims ordering female muslim homicide "honor killings"
muslims killing christians
muslims killing jews
muslims killing their own children for not being muslim enough





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oder,

Some where in Africa 01/12/2008 21:31:55

38 D. Feste - Illyria, OH,01/12

Being "blank" on the subject of which god to believe in may be exactly what is called for !


you mean after all that your not sure?

I rest my case!
40

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

01/12/2008 22:02:17

#40-

After all WHAT do you "rest your case?"

"BLANK". . . . as in "neutral" . . . . . . .non-affiliated, etc., as opposed to being a believer in a specific set of dogmatic beliefs.

How can you pretend to KNOW anything about diety when, in fact, no one really can ?
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

01/12/2008 22:13:07

#40-

By the way, as a kid, I was taught that anyone who was not Catholic was going to hell, that only Catholics
were "chosen" by God Himself !

In later years, I nicknamed this God. . . VINNY. . .
"the Vindictive !"

If we choose to worship a God, he/she/it should be some all-inclusive entity, not one whose very nature
condemns non-believers to automatic hell or death.

Gods of hate and division need to be shown the eternal door . . . .

Is this an unreasonable point of view ?

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oder,

Some where in Africa 02/12/2008 00:11:34
you made the argument for change!

you said
If these great "instigator" gods can't behave themselves then I think we need to replace the entire lot ! They all seem to have the devil in 'em !

replace with what?
its only Atheists think change is required!

but to what? no belief! that's your opinion not fact! how is that an improvement in the situation for millions of believers? Jews/Christians/Muslims all in agreement on the existence of God! or bring peace to the world, you have no evidence to show them that its wrong! I never mentioned what my beliefs were nor did I question yours I asked for clarity for your suggestion to replace God/Gods
your post at 38 was irrelevant apart for the last line

Being "blank" on the subject of which god to believe in may be exactly what is called for !

the words "may be" in the line implies you may have change your mind from your statement at 37
"I think we need to replace the entire lot"

hence my reply at at 40

you mean after all that your not sure?

back to where we started, you cannot categorically show one way or the other on the existence or none existence of god
for me there is no point in making change to one of non belief because it "may be" what is called for! you had no reason for change other than your personal opinion which your entitled to! but not necessarily a legitimate reason for millions of believers to accept it. so I rest my case

your post at 42 yes I was taught the same thing however as I grew up I learned that dogma of the church tended to be over emphasised and paid little attention to it in the end could hardly blame GOD for the over reaction of men even Catholics,God gets blamed for an awful lot; the price one pays for allowing free will I suspect! I don't know if your view is unreasonable I am not in the position to comment on your faith or lack of it.



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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 02/12/2008 04:25:53
#6 and #8 In my very short post at #3 It was not my intention to make it a face off between Christians and Muslims. I didn't explain it clearly enough obviously. The indigenous people of that particular area are in the main Christians. The Hausa, who are late comers to the area, are doing what Muslims world wide are doing.That is irrespective of whether the population of the area affected by their presence, is Christian,Taoist,Buddhist,Animist,Secular,Atheist or totalatarian.Hence my quick "Sound familiar?" question.It is only one religion or group on the planet who kills innocents anywhere,any time,for any reason.They are "Furious" at everything on the planet they don't like, bar nothing.
A friend in Birmingham sent me an email today.Which among the content, included a story about the DVLA allowing a Muslim lady to have her photograph for her Driving license taken with a full burka on! Now this one small act shows favouritism to them. Ironically it will allow terrorists to use the same ploy, and makes the Nu-Liebare plan for Biometric Identity Cards a DEAD DUCK!
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POSTMARK,-55,

China, 02/12/2008 11:18:04
And how exactly is it the fault of Muslims when certain countries allow people of Muslim faith to wear different attire? You need to take that up with the people who allow for these differences and not the people they have allowed it for.
I get shown favouritism in China too because I'm a foreigner yet I've never once asked for those favours, it's just the way it is.
I earn much more than my Chinese colleagues who are equally as qualified as I am and again I've never asked to be paid more than them.
Christianity is also guilty of killing many millions in the name of their God for no other reason than that they think they are superior.
Look back a few hundred years ago and look at what the Spanish were guilty of in the name of Christianity. Central and South America are a good testament to that mindless slaughter, so no it's not limited to the Muslims or any other religion, it's due to mankind and their quest for power and their never satisfying greed.

 

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