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Published Date: 30 May 2008
REPUBLICAN senator John McCain has accused his expected presidential rival, Barack Obama, of refusing to visit Iraq after he turned down the offer of a joint trip by the two candidates.
In an attempt to portray Mr Obama as lacking the experience for high office, Mr McCain says his Democrat rival has shied away from visits despite being a member of the Senate armed services committee.

"Senator Obama has been to Iraq once – a little over two years ago he went and he has never seized the opportunity except in a hearing to meet with General Petraeus (the US commander]," Mr McCain said, campaigning in Nevada. "My friends, this is about leadership and learning."

To ram the point home, the Republican Party website now features an online clock showing the number of days, currently 873 (including today) since Mr Obama's last visit.

The Illinois senator insists he is planning a visit of his own, but it would be a "political stunt" to arrive together with Mr McCain.

"If I'm going to Iraq, then I'm there to talk to troops and talk to commanders, I'm not there to try to score political points," he said.

Mr McCain, a Vietnam war veteran, polls better than Mr Obama on the subject of national security, but fighting him on the issue of Iraq is a risky decision.

The so-called "troop surge" of the past year has cut the violence, but failed to combat public opinion: 67 per cent of voters say the war is being badly run, down only fractionally from the 70 per cent last year.

Mr McCain insists the Iraq policy is working, and wants to give it more time, although he has dropped his call for US troops to stay "100 years", saying he hopes to have them out by the end of his first term in office.

He insists the "surge" will keep militants on the back foot, giving time for democratic processes to take root.

But Americans are ever more sceptical that this can be achieved. They are concerned that violence in many Sunni areas has ended only after the Pentagon began making payments to local warlords. This not only raises moral questions, but also empowers the warlords, undercutting the democracy that the White House insists it is working to install.

Nor is there much love for the Iraqi government. Its recent offensives against militants in Basra and in the Sadr City district of Baghdad produced a stalemate. The fighting stopped only when the militants decided that it should stop, leaving many wondering who actually runs the country.

Meanwhile, the Senate armed services committee is investigating why Iraq is not paying more for its own reconstruction.

Reports show that Iraq has amassed £28 billion in the bank as a result of high oil prices, yet last year spent only 4 per cent of the money promised for reconstruction.

Last month, Mr Obama demanded that money the US is spending on Iraqi infrastructure should be switched to repairing America's crumbling bridges and highways.

Dismay about the Iraq war was sharpened this week by accusations in the memoirs of Scott McClellan, a former White House spokesman, that the Bush administration misled the public over the reasons for going to war.

Meanwhile, the US army has revealed an increase in military suicides to 108 last year, the highest total for at least a decade.

Mr McCain's election strategy is to try and get past arguments about the rights and wrongs of the war, and concentrate on the awkward reality – which is that if the US troops pull out of Iraq, al-Qaeda may move in, setting up bases to launch attacks on the United States.

This reality has produced some convergence between the policies of Mr Obama and Mr McCain.

While Mr McCain says the troops will be out in four years, Mr Obama says they will be out in less than two, but adds that a force must remain behind indefinitely to tackle al-Qaeda.

International leaders pressed to cancel $60bn debt

IRAQ pressed its creditors to cancel about $60 billion in debts at an international conference in Sweden yesterday, but two of its biggest creditors, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, sent only junior representatives to hear the call.

The Iraqi delegation, led by the prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, basked in praise from international leaders lauding the country's economic and political development five years after the United States invaded to topple Saddam Hussein.

The Stockholm conference was the first annual review of the International Compact with Iraq agreed in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh last year, which committed Iraq to implement reforms in exchange for greater support.

Mr Maliki said the large debts, some dating back almost 30 years, and compensation payments for Saddam's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, were shackling the economy.

Iraq is obliged to set aside 5 per cent of its oil revenues as compensation payments, amounting to $3.5 billion this year.

"Iraq is not a poor country. It possesses tremendous human and material resources, but the debts of Iraq … which we inherited from the dictator, hamper the reconstruction process," Mr Maliki told the conference.

"We are looking forward to the brother countries writing off its (Iraq's] debts, which are a burden on the Iraqi government," he said.

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  • Last Updated: 29 May 2008 10:20 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: US elections
 
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Scullion,

Canada 30/05/2008 01:10:44
McCain is flogging the only mule he has in this race-and it won't be enough by a long shot.
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iuris dea ,

30/05/2008 01:46:09
Estimates are out that about $35 billion is missing from Iran's oil profits. Obama should go to Iraq and see first hand how and where his buddy Ahmadinejad spent that 35 billion, and lost it. Maybe he'll change his mind about having tea and crumpets with the dictator next door.
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Bryan H.,

Modesto 30/05/2008 01:58:01
I find it interesting how people who don't even live in this country even though you don't even reside in the U.S. I for one do not care if someone is called out on something, I want to know why a Junior Senator thinks that he has enough experience to run for president. That is my question.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 30/05/2008 02:03:58
Obama has been known to be a gaffe machine. If it was McCain saying these things you all would have heard about it.
For instance..he called Sunrise Florida,- Sunshine Florida, he called Souix Falls Idaho, Souix City, Idaho,he said Arkansas was near Kentucky, and decided that both of these states were in the middle of the nation. (Obama's home state of Illinois borders Kentucky).
He has stated he has traveled to 57 states..yet we only have 50. He even said he had one more state to see!!

If John McCain had done this, the press would give him a hard time and declare he was having a 'Senior Moment".
While in New Mexico, Obama likened himself to Haley Joel Osmentin the "Sixth Sense"...where he saw dead people.
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.” Fallen heroes in the audience?
Campaigning in Rush Limbaugh’s hometown of Cape Girardeau, Missouri, Obama argued that our military’s Arabic translators in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan: “We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan,” he claimed. But Afghans don’t speak Arabic; they speak several other languages. That’s a lot like McCain’s gaffe – except for the degree of media attention, which in the Democrat’s case was virtually nonexistent.

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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 30/05/2008 02:08:14
Continued..

Obama invents Bosnia-sniper-style whoppers about his personal history. In Selma, Alabama, Obama claimed that the spirit of hope derived from the civil rights protests in Selma in 1965 inspired his birth – when he was born in 1961. He also has inaccurately claimed that the Kennedys funded his Kenyan father’s trip to America in 1959.

While he was making boo-boos in New Mexico on Memorial Day, Obama also talked about post-traumatic stress disorder by claiming he had an uncle “who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz,” and then came home and spent six months in an attic. Gavrilovic didn’t note that the prisoners at Auschwitz were liberated by the Red Army. Obama earlier made the claim on his campaign site that his grandfather knew American troops who liberated Auschwitz and Treblinka (also liberated by the Red Army).

This is how the media doesn't report, and how they have pushed Obam down our throats.

And #4..I agree, he hasn't enough experience in his arsenal to deal with much..
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Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 30/05/2008 03:55:13
Hey.. I am a U.K. and Canadian citizen. We can see the U.S border from our back sunroom.

Thank you 4 and 7..I appreciate having your country as a neighbour. Of course the U.S has made monumental blunders in foreign affairs. Oh well! Germany never has,nor Britain, France, Spain Russia or China...Sure!!!

Western Europe and Canada should be forever grateful to the U.S.
Obama is a fool, and the democrats have really miscalculated with the backlash that will come his way.The Liberal left have donkeys ears on. Their leftist media hounds are flustered too.

Mrs Clinton is beside herself with rage, and hubby Bill will likely be out on his ear after she concedes.

All the best.
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JohnBowes,

30/05/2008 07:53:06
I find it hard to believe that anybody could vote for the wife or husband of a former president. Honestly. Its beyond belief.
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Media 1,

cape town 30/05/2008 08:35:44
McCain is just another gun toting American joke!

Obama could say that there would be no need to visit Iraq to begin with if it wasnt for people like Bush and McCain.

Iraq will be remembered as the war that was invented to fuel the American hunger for power and oil. Who actually hit the twin towers? Arabs perhaps, funded by Arabs, who were funded by Arabs, who were funded by Arabs, who were funded by An ARAB, who was funded by some mysterious American man in a suit up some dark alley in Europe, who was funded by some other shady character in New York who was funded by some unknown masked man on the steps of Capital Hill.
McCain will make the world an even more dangerous place, so let us all hope against hope that Obama wins this thing.
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bill2,

30/05/2008 09:30:36
It really doesn't matter who ends up as the next President, it will be more of the same anyhow.

Mission accomplished for the neocons either way, more bloodshed and thievery in the ROW.
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Commited to Independence,

Scotland 30/05/2008 10:17:32
5 and 6 Lynne

http://www.slate.com/id/76886/

The only other person I have read who is worse is frankly you.
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Silence of the Yams,

30/05/2008 11:06:41
Obama won't beat McCain in the election.
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MacLaren,

30/05/2008 12:54:54
5 Lynne

Great points!
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Number 6,

Germany 30/05/2008 13:33:25
I see idiots are still on here harping on about Obama's apparent "Lack of experience". The fact he has acomplished ten times what Clinton has seems to have passed you by. Check out their authoring records, see who is more active in forming meaning ful legislation.

Clinton is a second rate candidate, a high powered lawyer who could not pass the bar exam in Washington,
but some how managed to pass it where ? Why in little
rock Arkansa of course. The state with the worst record on education in America. When Whitewater was exposed, it transpired that Clinton did none of the work she was paid for, it was carried out by junior partners which she then signed off. This coupled by her continous and pathalogical lying and hypocrasy make
her a real "Turn-off" , certainly for us living in the rest of the world,. As for McCain, you can't be serious.
Don't tell me you are not embarresed by some of the ignorant garbage coming out of this frail old mans mouth. Does he strike any of you as someone who could possibly get America out of the nightmare secnario it is sinking into, both at home and abroad. At least Obama enjoys overwhelming support around the world, and will help greatly repairing the US's shattered image abroad. I find it fascinating that experience is still mentioned when the current President was apparently voted into office TWICE . What was his passed experience that made him suitable for the role of "Commander in Chief" (Shudder).

Mccain's critisism of Obama is desperate stuff, he is terrified of having to face him going for the Presidency. Every one knows Mr Chips and Clinton sing from the same hymn sheet, but Obama V McCain why they are as different as Black and White and the rebuplicans are terrified when the American People get to compare on just the 2 of them. I just loved it when McCain pretended , sorry lied to the American people, about "Faith being an important corner stone in his thinking". They grab a pastor off the top shelf to support and
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Newman!,

30/05/2008 13:46:07
Lynne - what a load of right wing nonsense!
McCain is the man who doesnt know the difference between Sunnis and Shias and yet this is the man who wants to drop some more bombs on the Middle East!
Scary stuff.
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Number 6,

Germany 30/05/2008 13:52:05
~#15 Based on what ?????. Oh Please don't say "experience. Clinton is a pathalogical liar anhd hypocrite. Her current demand that all the votes in Michican are now counted , goes against everything she said when she left her name on the Ballot.

The rebuplicans will use that televised record to show her hypocrasy and , of course her filthy , repeated lies about, amongst other things Bosnia.

How will she explain to the American people her years on the board of Wall-Markt ? one of America's most ruthless companies. And her , the Champion of Worker's rights ?. She will also have to explain why she had her time with the company removed from her official biography. Over to you.
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30/05/2008 14:07:23
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Silence of the Yams,

30/05/2008 14:19:18
No 6, shut up. BHO has an appropriated, paper thin resume and you know it.
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Kim Jong-il ???,

30/05/2008 14:37:15
#9 Media 1,cape town

Do you and "Number 6 Germany" read the same comic books?
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Dougie, Edinburgh,

30/05/2008 14:55:43
All three possibilities look mediocre at best. I'd like to be smug but we're in the same dire situation in Britain: the choice of Brown, Cameron and maybe Miliband
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Media 1,

south africa 30/05/2008 15:19:43
Kim Jong-iL

There are two types of people in this world. Those who take the time to scour a nations history for clues and information concerning their attitude to war. And those who count on the CNN's to bring them their news.

War is money making episode, you know that and so do I.

No war is ever started for the greater good of mankind. And it is always those who make the first strike that hold the honour of being aggressor. McCain is a gun toting maniac and he is bed with the rest of the NEO CONS!
I want Obama to win because only under his leadership can we determine if a leader REALLY makes a difference. A McCain win will result in more bloodshed, an Obama win should result in less bloodshed, but if the opposite of that is true under Obama then we know once and for all that they system is too powerful for any one man to change, regardless that he may be the President of America.
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mike - across the pond,

oh number 6... 30/05/2008 15:23:15
as far as who has a more "thin resume"... BO's resume is not even one term deep... he got himself appointed head of the "armed services committee"... and doesnt go visit the troops for 29 months and counting? WTF is with THAT?

BO chides McCain on an Armed Services appropriations bill... fair enough, but lets look a little DEEPER at that... it passed 70-4... would McCains presence have meant ANYTHING, to either side... oh wait, McCain would have probably voted AGAINST it because BO and the dems had it loaded up with pork (and McCain routinely votes against over laden legislation like that)...

the race is goint to be close, and the debates will be interesting, will BO run away from them? or risk being carved to pieces by McCain?

were I BO, I would really try to get close to McCain, just to get to know him better... know what he is like, what his "tells" are... Turning down an opportunity to "visit the troops" with McCain may well prove to be something he regrets not doing...

on the other hand, McCain didnt get to where he is... and stay there for as long he has... without being a quick study himself...
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mike - across the pond,

Media 1 30/05/2008 16:11:50
I think you are viewing it from a far too simplistic viewpoint...

if you are measuring a US presidents success/failure by bloodshed then W's tenure may indeed prove to be one of the most bloodLESS presidencies on record... from an allied perspective anyway...

I know it sounds kind of backwards, but take this... 9/11 you lay directly at WJC's feet... the culmination happened on W's watch but everything else about that happened on WJC's

Vietnam, most of the casualties happened on Nixons watch but KENNEDY got us in there...

Korea, goundwork was laid and we went in under Truman, and Ike got us out (that would be SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER DWIGHT DAVID EISENHOWER)...

WW2, this was FDR & Neville Chamberlian. and for all intents and purposes, FDR & Churchill getting us out...

what W has done (and we really wont know for 20 years) may indeed prove to be the "peak"... if that is the case then indeed W's actions are one of the most bloodless actions of its type.

and here is the rub... if BO wins, he keeps his promises (pulls the troops), and it gets WORSE, then it isnt an indictment of W's but more like a Clement Attlee/Truman kind of moment in history where it all went to hell in a handbasket because we lost our focus...

if you really think that an appeaser will result in a more peaceful world then you REALLY need to look no farther than your own African continent (what IS your history of "peacemakers")... from a world perspective, the REAL warmongers (saddam hussein, kim il-sung, hitler, tojo etc) only respect the "iron fist"...
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Griffe,

30/05/2008 16:35:07
Was the proposed visit dreamed up by Hillary Clinton? If they both didn't survive the visit to Iraq, she could march, unopposed, into the White House.
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Newman!,

30/05/2008 18:39:45
#26 Israel has defied hundreds of UN resolutions! Why not attack them instead huh?
#27 Appeasement? what are you on about?? why are you in Iraq? For a number of reasons - none of which is to bring "democracy" to the country, because 1 thing is guaranteed and that is there will never be real democracy in Iraq as long as America is occupying it.
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mike - across the pond,

newman.... 30/05/2008 19:08:23
yeah I suppose you are right...

as long as the US is in a country democracy will not take root... it'll never happen

I suppose you want us to all ignore Japan, Germany, South Korea, Panama, the Phillipines....

where the places we have pursued purely diplomatic solutions like Cambodia, VietNam and Cuba have suffered through DECADES of squallor under despotic regimes that took over after we left...

I'm trying to figure out which ones are better off... its such a tough comparison...

what a total complete GIT you are!

oh and while you are becoming educated as to how the REAL WORLD works... why dont you take the time to
1) READ THE UN CHARTER
2) READ THE UN RESOLUTIONS ALL OF THEM
and stop just regurgitating the crap the left wing is spewing...
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John Blackley,

Florida 30/05/2008 19:58:52
Ah, the usual high-minded, thought-provoking level of debate whenever the United States is mentioned in the Scotsman.

Just too dreary.
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Newman!,

30/05/2008 23:05:52
#30 you are without a clue. What most people would call a "typical" american.
Shall I read all 400 UN resolutions on Israel to you?
You just appear to accept the crap your government tells you and take it as gospel. Why are you in Iraq? Why are you guilding the biggest embassy in the world in Baghdad?
Its now a US colony.
Your own country is barely a democracy (like mine) so you should really start at home.
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truthsleuth,

31/05/2008 01:37:16
This man Obama is not to be trusted. His religious zealots are the purveyors of the real Obama truth.The man is a rascist and will be a devicive president who will use the race card to justify whatever he may do.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 31/05/2008 01:41:00
Newman! Take your head out of you rear. We have no colonies, we do not colonize..that is left the English to do.
We have sent many troops to countries beyond our borders,and put them in harm's way. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return, is enough to bury those who did not return.
Please tell me, who should have the largest Embassy? Iran? Sadr?



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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 31/05/2008 01:41:57
* it is supposed to read..that is left for the English to do.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 31/05/2008 02:41:29
here's a nice rant authored by an acquaintance of mine.

http://bartlebysfour.blogspot.com/2008/05/oh-no-weve-been-deceived.html

Its ridiculing everyone who is fooled by our politicians. that is most people quite frankly.

I think the ignorance, arrogance, dysfunctionalism & psychoses' of our politicians is only exceeded by those same of our collective citizens.

Bill2 is correct in saying that it likely doesn't matter who will win. of the entire fields of republicans and democrats the only 3 anti-war candidates were Kucinich, Graves & Paul. Most people don't even know who those people are due to the fact that they're (mis)informed by the corporate propaganda machine.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 31/05/2008 02:56:14
There was a time when the US was respected for the good things it did in the world.

Unfortunately it has completely lost its way since neo-con, religious right, pathological lying, the only solution to the world's problems is to bomb the crap out of them, people took over the whitehouse.

If the US wants the respect it once enjoyed, even though he may be the best of a mediocre line-up, Obama must be the next whitehouse incumbent.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 31/05/2008 03:42:51
37 LHTT is correct. the neo-cons destroy everything they touch. They took over the republican party by stealth and now the republicans are losing House & senate seats they've held for 30+years. here's an article about the birth defects in Fallujah.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=57875§ionid=351020201

Unfortunatley, Obama talks a lot like a neo-con sometimes. America is a nation ruled over by evil tyrants. Regardless, we have no excuse.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 31/05/2008 05:44:02
by the time the election rolls around..all the nuances about Obama, his church,and his racism cards (that he says he doesn't use) will all be brought to the forefront. The fact this Junior Senator has two years of experience, and nothing he has done so far has amounted to change..everyone will know. So, it will probably be a close race, and I hope he loses..because everything he has said is just campaign rhetoric. He still votes along party lines; and truth be told, there is very little difference between him and Hillary.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 31/05/2008 14:22:26
Lynne in 40:

You know Obama was elected to the US Senate in 2004. Today is 2008. I would estimate that you first read that line about Obama only having 2 years experience in 2006. and you've been using it ever since. You're so brain-dead that you can't even modify as time goes on. I think if you keep a pocket calculator with you for times like this, then you can figure out that 2008-2004 is greater than 2.

Also, I think that Obama had work prior to his experience in the US Senate.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 31/05/2008 20:07:08
Wally, tighten your tin foil hat. You know how Obama got where he is today?
He was famous for his 2004 speech at the Democratic Nation Convention.
In 2005 he arranged for meetings Informal seminars) with experts in health care, economy, education, and environment, to brief him. He claimed he wanted a "national voice" and that he wasn't running for President.
When Obama changed his mind and decided to run for president after only two years in the Senate, however, he effectively dismissed the importance of policy proposals, declaring in one speech in early 2007, "We've had plenty of plans, Democrats," and in another: "Every four years, somebody trots out a white paper, they post it on the Web." He cast his "new kind of politics" in terms of his ability to transcend divisions and his unique biography and offered few differences on issues from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and the other Democratic presidential candidates.

Obama has not emphasized any signature domestic issue, or signaled that he would take his party in a specific direction on policy, as Bill Clinton did with his "New Democrat" proposals in 1992 that emphasized welfare reform or as George W. Bush did with his "compassionate conservatism" in 2000, when he called on Republicans to focus more on issues such as education.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 31/05/2008 20:12:27
Wally...Talk about Media and brain dead!! Here are some remarks from others who do not agre with you.

Obama's campaign is "clearly politically transformative, it's clearly from a policy standpoint been cautious," said James K. Galbraith, a liberal activist and economist at the University of Texas at Austin who had backed former senator John Edwards in the early primaries.
"The change that Senator Obama has promised is one of tone and leadership style," said William A. Galston, who was a domestic policy adviser to President Bill Clinton and is backing Sen. Clinton but who said he would enthusiastically support Obama if he is the party's nominee. "He has not dissented from party orthodoxy in the way Bill Clinton did on the way to the presidency in 1992," Galston added.
Proposals mirror Democratic party line
Obama's domestic policy proposals, including expanding health care to all Americans and offering tax cuts for the middle class while raising taxes for those who make more than $250,000 a year, differ little from those that Clinton and other Democrats have proposed during the primaries. His ideas for solving the nation's housing crisis are similar to those of congressional Democrats, offering aid to people who cannot pay their mortgages and proposing a second economic stimulus package.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 31/05/2008 21:49:48
Lynne in 43, 44: 'Brain-Dead' is your word for today. I've improved your vocabulary if you can learn that one. But I still haven't improved your math skills. 2008-2004=4. It does not equal 2 as you implied. When you said Obama had 2 years' experience, I'm assuming you meant 2 years in the US Senate. But he's been in for 4 years. You started using that line in 2006 likely after you heard the drug-addict Rush Limbaugh speak it. and you're so brain-dead you can't modify in 2 years' time.

Also, you said that Obama started his career in 2004 with a speech at DNC. But I really liked his speech he gave in 2002 where he strongly opposed the Iraq war which was being brewed up by the insane neo-cons who lead our country. I believe Obama is 46 years old and I think he did have 'experience' in this world prior to 2004. If not, then how did he get the wisdom to oppose the Iraq war in 2002?

and I wonder what McCain's problem is. He's 71 years old. and he still doesn't have the experience to oppose the Iraq war after all those years. Maybe he's brain-dead too????

Which brings me to my conclusion that if you got your experience while being 'brain-dead', then those years of experience don't even count. McCain has no experience whatsoever and he's running for president!!! Pull him off the stage.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 01/06/2008 01:29:27
Obama has resigned from the Trinity Church. Another Pastor, another Scandal. I guess he decided that was best. The Pastor that took over for Rev. Wright also had his problems..and now this visiting Pastor was the icing on the cake. He had to leave..show the people he doesn't agree with them..after all, there is an election soon.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 01/06/2008 03:13:01
Lynne, you will agree with anything anti-christian.

Senator mcCain associated with Pastors Hagee & Parsley who are both muslim haters. Both men said from the pulpit that the US should start wars with muslims simply because they're mulsims and kill them. McCain denounced them.

I wonder if you will denounce the jewish rabbi who wrote a piece in the March 26 Haaretz paper where he said that jews should kill all palestinians????? we're wondering.

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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 01/06/2008 03:30:59
Wally

"I wonder if you will denounce the jewish rabbi"

....From past experience, it's pretty obvious what your answer would be, "Of course they should be".
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 01/06/2008 11:25:10
With McCain a clone of Bush, the following gives a glimpse of what could be repeated with a McCain presidency:-

"Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan's book has caused a media frenzy and a furor among Bush loyalists ("Past, present White House aides denounce memoirs," May 29).

While his book is critical of President Bush's Iraq adventure and handling of Hurricane Katrina, it only scratches the surface of the catastrophe that is the Bush administration.

Mr. Bush and his cronies made a disastrous mistake in invading Iraq. The fallout from that fiasco includes today's higher food and fuel costs.

Additionally, Congress and the Bush administration have gone on a spending spree that threatens to bankrupt the nation. They have sold us out to China by exporting jobs and bonds to finance our debts to Asia. Free trade agreements exacerbate such problems.

Mr. Bush's mishandling of Hurricane Katrina speaks for itself.

And today our tax dollars are rebuilding the Iraq we destroyed while much of the damage from Katrina remains unaddressed.

Mr. Bush's legacy may be as one of the worst presidents in our history. Our nation may never fully recover.

Dennis Sirman

Selbyville, Del.



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iuris dea ,

01/06/2008 13:28:54
@38,41,45,47
Wally has reached a new level of brain dead, if that is even possible.

Obama as a lawyer, never wrote one article, never wrote one law review, never took one case to trial, never wrote one piece of legislation....
based on that lack of merit, how could this empty suit even remotely be given the responsibility to write policy that would guide a democratic nation of millions???

The answer is hauntingly simple: Obama is incapable of writing policy because he doesn't even know the facts or history- he depends on advisers to do his thinking- and this is very very dangerous to a democracy.
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iuris dea ,

01/06/2008 13:40:59
Obama would throw his own white mother under the bus to win the election.

Obama would fix his political opponents registrations to prevent them from competing in the race, and would cozy up to Chicago gangsters so he could win a local election.

Obama would embrace Black Liberation Theory to win the black vote and when he had their vote, throw them under the bus.

Oh wait- he's already done these things.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 01/06/2008 14:54:33
the Democratic Rules Committee and Howard Dean just took AWAY some of the delegates Clinton has won in elections. I hope there is a revolt. If they think giving the delegates only half the vote, because they are seated at the convention is going to work, then they are kidding themselves. Maybe the committee is happy, but we here in Forida are not. Our votes have to count..and this is just another form of the Obama love fest.
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57Nomad,

california 01/06/2008 20:33:18
#51 lhtt

lhtt said:

"Mr. Bush's mishandling of Hurricane Katrina speaks for itself."

This kind of ignorant blathering has its roots in continental provincialism. LHTT, you know less than nothing of the way the American system operates. Disaster response is the purview of state and municipal authorities. The federal government is forbidden by law to intervene. Had President Bush or any member of the federal government taken steps without first receiving a formal request from the state of Louisiana, that person would be guilty of a federal crime and subject to severe punishment.

It was the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans who inept and tardy responses who caused the problem. George Bush had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 01/06/2008 22:55:06
Clinton has won Puerto Rico by a wide margin, she gets most of the delegates. She has the popular vote in most states, but the Obama love-fest rolls on.
Those super delegates changing their positon are like rats deserting a sinking ship. This is no way over for her. She has enough to go to court with and sue the Democratic Committee for taking away votes that she legitmately won. She can tie them up until the convention if she wants. The choice is hers.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 02/06/2008 00:10:27
#34 Lynne,Palm Beach Gardens - "We have no colonies, we do not colonize..that is left the English to do" - The US has been expansionist since it was founded growing from 13 states to 50. The current de facto colonies are listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States#Unincorporated_organized_territories
What colonies do the "English" have?


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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 02/06/2008 01:58:35
#57

"This kind of ignorant blathering has its roots in continental provincialism".

....Then you should address your comment to your fellow countryman:

Dennis Sirman, Selbyville, Del.


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Number 6,

Germany 02/06/2008 07:37:32
For all the gnashing of teeth and tearing of clothes here. it's patently obvious that Obamah is going to get the nomination. Why does clinton insist on dragging this out ?. She comes across as desperate and
certainly that's how she is percieved throughout the world. If she had a shred of decency, she would have slithered back into the shadows. The party leaders know she would be destroyed by the Republican attack machine, just as the republicans know Obamah will destroy McCain during the head to heads.

Those pictures of Hillary's white women crying for their votes last night, were sickening. Grow up and face reality.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 03/06/2008 00:49:08
#56 Rosie O'Donnell

"You never have anything nice to say".

....That's what Hitler used to say to his detractors.

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Bìg Carbon Footprint,

East Lothian 05/01/2009 03:54:32
Right on
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