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Push expected as Iraqis told to flee



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IRAQI soldiers for the first time warned residents in the embattled Sadr City district to leave their houses yesterday.
It signals a new push by the US-backed forces against Shiite extremists, who have been waging street battles for seven weeks.

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  • Last Updated: 08 May 2008 10:25 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Guga II,

Rockall 09/05/2008 05:21:05
In other words, get the people out before the yanks come in and flatten everything, and everyone, including innocent civilians.
2

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 09/05/2008 06:15:29
We should just sit by and take our lumps in the form of bombs and IEDs right!!! You are a first class numb nut. They are going after the US troops...and you say something as stupid as that..You never disappoint.
3

gus1940,

Edinburgh 09/05/2008 08:31:53
How not to win hearts and minds.

Try to imagine what the situation would be like in Northern Ireland if the UK carried on like the septics.

If we had sent in the RAF to bomb The Bogside every time the IRA set off a bomb do you think the present relatively peaceful state would ever have come to pass?
4

Guga II,

Rockall 09/05/2008 09:50:47
#3 gus. But that's the standard outlook of the septic red necks "nuke 'em all".
5

Let's have the truth,

Qeensland 09/05/2008 10:07:50
#2

"They are going after the US troops..."

...What on Earth do you expect? The US troops shouldn't be there. If you don't want them to go after US troops, get them out.

If the US had been invaded and George Bush's head had been ripped off by as puppet government set up by the invaders I suggest a number of US citizens would be "going after" after them too.
6

James Donald,

Newbridge 09/05/2008 10:19:54
#2 Lynne,Palm Beach Gardens - Still the charmer eh Granny? It is the US attitude of winning hearts and minds by superior firepower that is stupid. Didn't work in Vietnam and hasen't exactly been a roaring success in Iraq either.
7

Boy Wonder,

09/05/2008 10:58:16
The Yanks push again ...

Still, at least they would never send entire families into a war-zone, like our lot has. A father and his three sons all in Iraq at once?? It's damn disgusting is what that is!
8

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 09/05/2008 16:00:47
YOU can't win the hearts and minds of people who are determined to kill you...you all seem to forget...the gov't has asked us to stay..not leave..their hearts and minds are won, and most of the people feel there feel it would be a mistake to leave, as Iran has already made its intentions clear.
9

mike - across the pond,

gus/guga.... 09/05/2008 16:08:32
interesting how you want to defend the nutters whose only aim in life is to install a totalitarian fascist theocracy...

Sadr and his cronies make the W and the US look like a bunch of EU class pablum sucking liberals...
10

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 09/05/2008 16:16:51
Maybe you are blind to what Iran is doing in Lebanon too...close your eyes to all this and blame the US.. You are as usual apologists and appeasers to terrorists...especially GugaII, James Donald, and LHTT..
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John Blackley,

Florida 09/05/2008 19:10:07
I really hate to inject a fact into a good-going diatribe against the United States.......but:

The 'forces' actually going in to Sadr City to take on the Mahdi army are very much Iraqi. They have asked for and will receive - no doubt - support from United States' air forces and artillery. Nevertheless, this initiative - to winkle out Sadr's forces - was very much that of al Malaki and, being as ill-advised and precipitate as it is, thoroughly annoyed the US command who were, nevertheless, duty-bound to respond to requests for help.

There, sorry to interrupt. Please return to willfully-ignorant rant.
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57Nomad,

california 09/05/2008 20:13:01
Al-Sadr lives in Iran. His forces are equipped by the Iranians. They are, in fact, part of the armed forces of Iran and what they are doing is making proxy war on the Iraqis. It is the Iraqi army that is doing the fighting and an observant reader would notice that the order to leave the city was given to certain neighborhoods. The reason that they could be precise enough to evacuate some blocks and not others is that the residents of those blocks have ratted out the terrorists who have taken refuge there and supplied the Iraqi army with the terrorist locations. Mookie better stay in Iran. His followers, what there is left of them, have worn out their welcome in Iraq.
13

My Errant Mind,

USA 09/05/2008 21:57:16
You know, let's do indeed have the truth...

"If the US had been invaded and George Bush's head had been ripped off by as puppet government set up by the invaders I suggest a number of US citizens would be "going after" after them too."

Everyone boo-hooing the US led invasion of Iraq and whining about it being illegal or our fault is conveniently ignoring the fact that the Iraqi government agreed to certain terms as a pre-condition for the cessation of hostilities in the 1990-1991 Gulf War after the IRAQIS invaded and brutalized Kuwait--ripping off heads, raping, murdering, and otherwise looting and destroying that nation. There is no such thing as an innocent Iraqi--they all stood behind and by their government as it did those things.

Those hostilities which resulted in the Iraqi military/nation being soundly defeated and driven out of Kuwait were ONLY halted because of Iraqi agreement to live up to certain terms.

Now let's be clear. Who cares if there was no UN approval for the US to invade Iraq after the attacks of 9/11? We did not need it. We ALREADY had the justification from the first Gulf War because Iraq had not lived up to the terms it had agreed to. It doesn't really matter if intelligence was wrong or poor or manipulated or that the Bush administration was incredibly inept in trying to make the case about WMD's when there was no need to.

The facts remain: (1) Iraq failed to comply with terms it agreed to which brought about a cessation of hostillities, (2) Iraq did have terrorists, (3) Iraq did have chemical precursors for WMDs, (4) Iraq was producing rockets with a greater range than allowed by UN mandate under the terms of the cessation of hostilities in the Gulf War. Those reasons alone were sufficient justification to resume hostilities.

The US and our allies did not need any new justification for resuming hostilities despite what all the uninformed and uneducated people of the world seem to believe--it was there all along as a preexi
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My Errant Mind,

USA 09/05/2008 21:57:54
The US and our allies did not need any new justification for resuming hostilities despite what all the uninformed and uneducated people of the world seem to believe--it was there all along as a preexisting condition for the Iraqi government to not have been an occupied country since 1991.

So the whole truth is that Iraq's current occupation--while conveniently serving the current and strategic security needs of the situation post-9/11--is a perfectly legitimate response and one that would have been justified even without those attacks.

As to the Iraqi military and government finally stepping up and doing its job, it's about time. Iran ought to be next on the list so long as they harbor Al-Sadr or train, fund or otherwise supply insurgents in Iraq or terrorists in Syria, Lebanon or elsewhere.

Let's be clear, Europeans who talk down at the actions of Americans are just as much to blame as the USA for conditions in the Middle East and probably moreso. It was you, after all, who carved up southwest Asia with incredibly ridiculous borders that were about as clueless and baseless as one could have possibly imagined. And when it comes to war as the answer, it seems to me there are many Europeans forgetting that very same approach has been their preferred choice since the dawn of time.

You will recall that is exactly how we Yanks had our start in the first place...all your incessant invading and warring and conquering. Talk about your memory loss.

And now we catch flak for dealing with the conditions which Europeans are largely responsible for creating in the first place? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. If calling Americans rednecks because we advocate a strong defense and aren't afraid of a scrap is supposed to be an insult, you fail in the attempt. It appears to me there are still a lot of sore losers in Europe, particularly in England.

I do seem to recall that our redneck forces did quite well against the English forces, after all. The only
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My Errant Mind,

USA 09/05/2008 21:58:38
I do seem to recall that our redneck forces did quite well against the English forces, after all. The only reason we don't just level places we probably should--and spend so much money rebuilding and helping out those who support our enemies--is because we would never hear the end of sanctimonious and hypocritical European whining about how cruel we are.

Wouldn't want us Yanks challenging your outstanding achievements of the Crusades, the Inquisition, WWI, WWII, the northern Crusades and the various glorious wars of empire waged for a few millennium in your own backyard, right?

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Sorry for the overlap in posts. Wish they would put the word count to this thing.
16

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 09/05/2008 22:57:43
My Errant Mind. (mind if I call you MEM?)..you are so right. Unfortunately what you say will be falling on the deaf ears of the appeasers and apologists here..and there are many.
They also reort to name calling when they have been backed into a corner with the truth.. so mind you don't take offense at their words..as they know not what they say.
It is nice to see someone else backing up the truth.
17

James Donald,

Newbridge 11/05/2008 21:46:53
#10 Lynne,Palm Beach Gardens - I am a "apologists and appeasers to terrorists" only in your twisted, feeble mind.
Before the US led invasion of Iraq, where were the terrorists from there attacking us? Now the country is awash with them and there is no end in sight to the bloodshed.
You are a fool - stick to housework and baking scones.

 

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