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Garden to help lay wartime shame to rest



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Published Date: 29 May 2008
THEY were among the early generations of what is now one of Scotland's most vibrant and successful communities, but for years their descendants have had to live with a pain all but forgotten by the rest of the world.
Now, six decades after an inglorious episode in Britain's wartime history which claimed the lives of more than 700 civilians and prisoners of war, Scots-Italians will finally have a place to remember the plight of their forebears.

Standing alongs
ide Alex Salmond, the First Minister, and Mario Conti, the Archbishop of Glasgow, at the launch of an appeal to raise funds for a memorial garden to the Arandora Star tragedy, Rando Bertoia remembered the morning of 11 June, 1940 as if it were last week. Aged 20, he heard the knock at the door of his home in the Gorbals. It was two police officers, waiting to take him and his father away.

The day before, Mussolini had declared war on the Allies. The 20,000 Italians, like the Bertoias who were resident in Britain, could no longer hope for an offer of sanctuary.

Instead, under a contentious policy of internment designed to root out so-called "enemy aliens", Rando and his father were among countless Italian men between the ages of 18 and 70 arrested and rounded up.

Three weeks later, Winston Churchill having decided that the dominions were the best place to send them, the men were herded aboard the SS Arandora Star. Mr Bertoia was one of 1,673 bodies crammed on to the converted cruise ship, which left Liverpool bound for Canada.

He was alongside his cousin Luigi, when, off the west coast of Co Donegal, a German U-boat struck, its torpedoes sending the Star to the ocean floor.

Having found space in a lifeboat, Mr Bertoia was picked up by a Canadian destroyer and taken to Greenock, where a roll-call determined who had survived. His cousin's name went unanswered. Luigi was dead. Some 445 other Italians suffered the same fate, among them Alfonso Crolla, the original partner in the Edinburgh delicatessen Valvona & Crolla, and generations of relatives of Sir Eduardo Paolozzi, the esteemed sculptor.

At the age of 88, Mr Bertoia is the last Scots-Italian survivor from the ill-fated crossing. In the time that has passed, there has been no permanent memorial, and neither apology nor compensation from the British government. As the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera reported, the Star appeared to have been "swallowed up by the silence of history".

Nowadays, Mr Bertoia feels no bitterness. "These things happen in war," the retired watch repairer said yesterday. All that mattered, he added, was being able to witness the start of a project that will give Scots-Italians a place to grieve.

The appeal, launched yesterday, aims to raise £1.5 million to build an Italian-style cloister garden in Glasgow. Already, 2,000 letters have gone out to the city's considerable Scots-Italian community asking for donations, with the chance to have their relatives commemorated in a wall.

"The garden will be more than a place for relaxation and meditation," said Mr Salmond.

"It will serve as a memorial to those men who were taken away from their homes, families and lives in Scotland following Italy's entry into the war."

'An oasis of tranquillity amid the city bustle – a place to sit and reflect'

CREATING a memorial garden to the victims of the Arandora Star tragedy will cement the historic bond between Scotland and Italy, Mario Conti, the Archbishop of Glasgow, said yesterday.

Speaking at the launch of the appeal to raise funds for the Italian cloister garden, he said it would be "a fitting symbol of the great bonds of friendship between Scotland and Italy".

He added: "The cloister garden will quickly become a much-loved oasis of tranquillity amid the city bustle, a place to come alone or with friends, to reflect, to sit awhile and to remember."

The garden is part of a number of refurbishment works planned for St Andrew's Cathedral, the mother church of Glasgow's Catholic community. It will be sited next to the cathedral in Clyde Street and will include a café, exhibition space and meeting room.

The cathedral will be given new floors, lighting, pews, decoration and heating.



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  • Last Updated: 29 May 2008 12:55 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: World War II
 
1

Guga II,

Rockall 29/05/2008 00:37:35
I fail to see how there can be any sense of shame in interring enemy civilians during the course of a war.
2

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29/05/2008 01:44:05
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3

SouthernSkye,

29/05/2008 07:42:07
#4 HarderTruth,
Agreed 100%.
......and what about the Spanish inquisition! No compensation for their evil deeds yet either?

Although I am sympathetic to their loss(es) and think the idea of a garden is a good one. I'll put a tenner in.
4

Kate,

Zurich 29/05/2008 07:47:32
Guga, your comment is quite sad in its attitude. These were not enemy civilians, but second and third generation Scots of Italian heritage. They had chosen to live in Scotland, and had built their lives there.

The British did the same to women and children of European descent in South Africa during the Boer War, thus inventing the concept and term "concentration camp".

The Americans did the same to people of Japanese descent in the States.

I have many Scots friends of Italian descent and they fully deserve this recognition.
5

Roy,

29/05/2008 08:42:24
No. 6 - Well said, Kate.
6

Hugo of Garven,

29/05/2008 09:09:46
How many generations does it take for them to become Scots?

#6 Kate
Well said.
7

Ken Mac,

Glasgow 29/05/2008 09:50:19
# 1&2

Dreadful comments. As Kate said these were not enemy aliens caught up in a war situation, these were people who lived here, many for several generations.

The Scottish Executive. Idiot. Any excuse to have a go at Salmond. The Italian chapel on Orkney has nothing to do with being a memorial for Scots/Italians or anybody else. It was built as a place of worship by Italian POWs.
8

JayTee,

Doon the Watter 29/05/2008 10:06:44
I think we're all losing sight of some salient facts (i) it was June 1940 when fears of an invasion supported by fifth columnists were rife, if over-done.
(ii) the torpedo was stamped 'made in Germany' (trans). Shouldn't the Germans be the ons apologisng and compensating? Maybe they could fund Mario Conti's italiante garden
(iii) isn't spend £1.5M on a garden a bit OTT (better to donate it to an Italian aid team working in Burma?). Even Mme. Beckett (FS as was) didn't aspire to such grandeur.
sionfa
9

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 29/05/2008 10:30:41
No. 6:- Weren't the people who set bombs off on the London Underground supposed to be English/British?
10

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 11:13:14
people are reading too much into this
this is a tragic tale of Scots of italian heritage being caught up in a war brought about by a dictator should they be condemnedfor the actions of him.
this garden is a tastefull way of acknowledgeing the injustices that were i beleive carried out in good faith in what were dark desperate times.
11

Saoghal Beag,

29/05/2008 12:41:41
5 Southern Skye but the inquisition has been immortalised by inspiring the monty python team to write a catchy tune and bring on the dancing nuns.

amazing that an place of quiet and a memorial to the dead should bring out the moans. Sad
12

monkey man,

29/05/2008 13:02:18
Let me get this right. The Nazis torpedoed a ship full of suspected Italian subversives yet Britain is to blame and apologise.? This is breathtakingly stupid and cringingly embarrassing stuff.

We'll be apologising for shooting down the Luftwaffe after they bombed Clydebank next.

Not surprised that Salmond is there though. Where there's grief, Alex will be there to grub for votes.
13

James C,

Lothian 29/05/2008 13:06:28
Fair enough that the Italians who were lost on the Arandora Star are to get a memorial garden.
But what of the civilian crew of that ship, and the 30,000 other British civilian crewmen who died on that war - almost all on Merchant (civilian) ships. They have no memorial garden, and more often than not there are no memorials to them AT ALL.
While this appeal is creditable, why shouldn't we be remembering our own people as well?
Not all of the Italians aboard the ship were 2nd/3rd generation, the majority were first generation and there was also a good number of Italian Prisoners of War aboard too - one of a number of instances where one side inadvertently killed a good number of their "own" men. We did the same to a few ships in the Pacific which were packed with British/Commonwealth POW's.
14

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 14:22:53
monkey man they were not suspected subversives they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time
compare this to the leniant treatment of the queens english born cousins in germany at the same time

i understand why it was done but they where victims of circumstance or do you think they were all papeist spys?
15

monkey man,

29/05/2008 14:31:05
#16

The wartime Government must have thought they were subversives to deport them, and rightfully so.

Terrible incident obviously, but nothing to do with us unless British lives were lost, which they were, in bigger number in the same tragedy than these Italians.

Maybe the Italians & the Germans will apologise to us then,eh.?
16

monkey man,

29/05/2008 14:56:51
In fact, the Italians drowned in this incident were only a minority of those on board which comprised of mostly German internees and British service personnel.

More of the other nationals on board were drowned than Italians so why no emphasis or mention of the British or German victims.?

Just why this article has been spun to make the Italian victims more prominent is suspicious at best and sinister at worst.

I think the answer lies at the bottom of the article where the re-furbishment and improvement of the Church where any memorial is planned.

I will be enquiring to ensure that no taxpayers money is used in this venture.
17

Mafivism,

Glasgow 29/05/2008 14:59:07
I am a Scot of Italian descent. My extended family lost several members on the Arandora Star.

In answer to some of the comments - I can entirely understand how, at the outbreak of war, people were naturally suspicious of possible 'fifth columnists' in their midst. That is entirely natural. But I want people to understand how innocent members of the Italian community were really caught in the middle of an impossible situation.

Many of those who died on the Arandora Star has sons who were fighting in the British Army. Many had spent most of their lives in Britain. Their children spoke only English and had little, if any, experience of Italy. They were horrifed when Italy sided with the Germans during the war.

A word about the Arandora Star. The ship was designed to about 500, and had lifeboats for that number. The lifeboats were secured behind heavy wire mesh. The ship had been repainted grey, like a battleship, and had no Red Cross or other markings to identify it as a non-military vessel.

The wives and children of the men who were taken were not told where their husbands and fathers were, or indeed if they had survived.

My own family's story typifies many. My great grandfather was placed in 'internal exile' as an enemy alien. His business was taken from him leaving him no means of support. With supreme irony, while he was interned, the Nazis executed his parents in Italy for being British sympathisers because their son lived in Scotland. It was a no-win situation, and one that scarred Scotland Italian community.

I for one am delighted there is to be a memorial. That does not detract from others who died. Half of my family are Scottish, and several of them died too.

18

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 15:26:00
Mafivism, spot on a sad tale i cant see how any reasonable person can object to marking this tragic episode in this way
19

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 15:27:51
17 you forget these were scots italian,s
20

monkey man,

29/05/2008 15:30:57
I have no problem with the Italian relatives of these unfortunates privarely remembering their loved ones, but what has it exactly got to do with Britain, especially our Scottish First Minister, the failed Westminster politician.?
21

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 15:40:05
these were scots italian,s internd by scotish policemen and soldiers who subsequently drowned on a british merchant vessel everything to do with the first minister of Scotland id say.
it is the right thing to do
22

Iain fae Elgin,

29/05/2008 15:46:16
#15..there's a large Merchant Marine Memorial on Tower Hill in London.

That OK?
23

monkey man,

29/05/2008 15:48:48
#23

You personally don't know if those Italians on board were subversives or Nazis, so how would you know you wouldn't be building a memorial to pro-Nazi sympathisers with the slug Salmond's backing .?
24

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 15:56:57
Guilty regardless if there is evidence or not intresting sense of justice you have monkey man. As pointed out well by Mafivism in his post they were guilty in the eyes of the facists and guilty in the eyes of authority's here they were victims of circumstance and prejudice
25

Thistledhu,

fife 29/05/2008 16:07:03
#23 if were working on that premise why were none of the german windsors locked up?
26

monkey man,

29/05/2008 16:09:40
On a human level, yes, the remembrance of these individuals by their relatives is appropriate, but not officially by this country, and I for one have no feelings of "shame" on behalf of the UK.

Maybe the German Embassy should be the first port of call for Conti and his merry band.
27

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 16:18:57
the act of remeberance was done on behalf of scotland cant you read monkeyman
28

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 16:20:20
Mario Conti, the Archbishop of glasgow is the title i think you are looking for monkey man
29

James C,

Lothian 29/05/2008 16:23:58
#19
All Merchant ships were painted grey on the outbreak of war. This was done because a grey ship on a grey sea is much harder to spot than a brightly coloured one in peacetime colours - this was a painfully hard lesson learnt during the Great War.
Under the Geneva convention only those ships actively engaged as hospital ships and carrying no "belligerent" personnel aside from those wounded etc and armaments are premitted to be lit up and painted up as hospital ships. You have to remember that in both World Wars there was a state of unrestricted warfare on the worlds seas, i.e. basically any ship that didn't belong to your country (whoever that may be) was liable to be captured/sunk regardless as to whether it was civilian or not. The Axis powers practiced unrestricted warfare as did the Allies - in equal measure.
At the beginning of the war many U Boat commanders either surfaced on encountering a merchant ship and gave those onboard time to abandon and/or offered assistance to those in the water after the ship had been sunk. This practice was banned by Hitler/Donitz after our gallant American allies bombed a German U boat coming to the assistance of the British crew and Italian POW's from the 'Laconia', despite the U-Boat broadcasting in plain language that it was engage in a Rescue operation, the boat displaying large Red Cross flags and the presence of several hundred survivors both on the U Boats casing and in lifeboats being towed behind it.
See here: http://www.uboat.net/ops/laconia.htm

#24
I know about the Merchant Navy (not Marine) memorial at Tower Hill, but that's it - there's precious few other memorials. The Tower Hill memorial isn't even that prominent, most people who visit it are either there on purpose or have found it by accident.
30

monkey man,

29/05/2008 16:24:07
#30 The term Archbishop is not seen as a title of honour for anyone so I wouldn't discredit the person involved by using it.

The failed Westminster MP Salmond can do what he likes....the rest of Scotland couldn't care less.
31

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 16:28:59
judgeing by the posts and comments elsewhere i think you are wrong there.

32

monkey man,

29/05/2008 16:30:18
#33

Yeah,right. This was the sole topic on every bus or train in Scotland this morning. lol
33

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 16:38:46
going by the informed discusion and it being reported widely in the scotish press yes it does matter.

It is a sign of a strong country to be able to look back and say well we got that wrong
34

monkey man,

29/05/2008 16:43:29
#35

It'll be tomorrows fish and chip paper. No pun intended...
35

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 16:48:09
I find it hard to understand how on one hand we can lock up a small minority of people wh o run small time buisness's who would have little or no opportunity to do any damage while people of influence of german birth related to high ranking nazi's were left unmolested.

this was a knee jerk response that was wrong
36

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 16:48:34
36 isent all news!!!!
37

Caora Dubh,

Croit sheasgair 29/05/2008 18:31:01
Why is everyone these days so intent on finding someone to blame for everything? Sh*t happens, even when people do things for the best of reasons! In this case the UK government no doubt took a carefully weighed decision that it would be best for alien nationals to be interned in the Dominions, probably as much for their own safety as that of the British. There was next to no food rationing in many Dominion countries, for one thing! The German U-boat commander thought he was doing his duty by torpedoing what could have been a troop ship. War is terrible, but I am sure that no one in this case deliberately wished civilians to come to grief. It is appalling that they did, but as Rando Bertoia said, these things happen in war.
38

John Blackley,

Florida 29/05/2008 20:14:46
So here's a - in my opinion - charming story. The Italian-descended Archbishop of Glasgow presides over the launch of an appeal for funds to build a Italianate memorial graden in Glasgow. The garden is to be built to honour the memory of Scots-Italians who died in WWII - in tragic circumstances. It will be funded, not by taxpayers' money, but by subscription from the Scots-Italian community. A Scottish politician attended the launch but then your average politician would attend the launch of a rubber duck if he thought there'd be a camera about.

So what are the comments on this rather innocuous story? Wow! Bile, spite, argument, blame - heavens, we even found time to take a swipe at the Americans!(?)

This I find quite worrying.
39

bumpkin,

29/05/2008 21:18:05
i fail to see how scotland has any shame to bear in this, after all it was the germans who sunk them.
The germans would have known they were on board.
They were lucky the russians and americans won the war for us, or they would have had to stay in canada.
Canada is not bad anyway.
40

Ken Mac,

Glasgow 29/05/2008 21:59:36
You can't rationalise with an ****hole like Monkey Man. You are a complete divit.
41

Thistledhu,

29/05/2008 22:15:47
Ken Mac yep i think scotlands shame may behind the criticism of this clearly moraly right thing to do
42

monkey man,

29/05/2008 23:42:37
#40

No John, if this "memorial" is officially classed as a war memorial the local council is then obliged for its maintenance and upkeep....and also most probably, the garden, the surrounding area, then the grounds, then the nearest building, etc. You know how these things work when certain favoured groups are involved.

The only shame in Scotland is those that don't appreciate and show respect to the country. If they don't, wouldn't it be better for all concerned if they went home.?

 

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