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Published Date: 14 August 2008
ONE in three young people in Scotland does not have a parent it regards as a role model, according to a new report.
The Culture of Youth Communities report by the Prince's Trust reveals that 30 per cent surveyed lack a parental role model, and suggests this is driving them to join gangs.

Sixty-two per cent of young people in Scotland claim that finding a sense of identity is a key reason for joining a gang, where more than one in five looks for role models in gangs.

Geraldine Gammell, the Scotland director of the trust, warned the breakdown of traditional communities was pushing the country's young people into forming their own alternative communities.

She said: "All the threads that hold a community together – a common identity, role models, a sense of safety – were given by young people as motivations to join gangs. Our research suggests that young people are creating their own 'youth communities' and gangs in search of the influences that could once have been found in traditional communities."

The report further revealed young people are more than twice as likely to turn to a peer than a parent if they have a problem. Of those questioned, 61 per cent said they would go to a peer, while only 30 per cent would approach a parent.

The report also puts into context alarm over knife crime and youth crime. Only 9 per cent of young people have spent time as part of a gang, 3 per cent "regularly" take drugs, and 2 per cent carry a knife.

Recent research has found there to be about 300 territorial gangs in Scotland.

Police are focusing attention on diverting young people from gang culture. Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Violence Reduction Unit, agreed with the report's main findings.

"Young men from deprived backgrounds who have poor parental relationships can often find the support they don't find within their families among a group of similar young men – there is a sense of understanding through their shared experience," he said.

"The gang therefore becomes almost like an extended family.

"When you do not experience success in school or home and lack the aspiration to do so, the reputation as a fighter or gang member may be all you have."

The YouGov poll surveyed 1,754 aged between 14 and 25 across the UK in July.

PROFILE

SAMANTHA Thomson had a difficult upbringing which led her into drug abuse and unemployment.

"Lacking a strong role model in my life and being involved in a bad relationship, I started smoking cannabis and was suffering from very low self-esteem," said the 19-year-old from Barrowfield, Glasgow.

"This lack of confidence and motivation I feel also prevented me from engaging with my local community and from seeking a job."

Visited a local careers office, she learnt about the Prince's Trust's 12-week programme, designed to give young people the opportunity to work in a team on a community project.

While completing the programme, she worked on a community project in Parkhead and participated in various fundraising initiatives.

She is now a part-time youth worker with the YMCA, working with 12- to 18-year-olds.

Ms Thomson says the trust provided her with a mentor, "someone who made me feel good about myself and built up my confidence".

She adds: "Through this I am now working in a job I love, and able to use the experience I have gained to mentor other young people."

'There are lots of contradictions in contemporary parenting'

Professor Lynn Jamieson


ARE fathers role models? It is not clear what a "role model" means to young people.

Even if children are happy with their parents as parents, that may not mean they want to be like them.

The majority of children have two active parents and almost three-quarters live with both parents. Divorce or separation of parents is certainly much more common than in the 1950s or 1960s, but the most likely negative impact of fathers leaving the family home is a loss of income and relative poverty.

Estimates vary concerning how many children have no real relationship with their father, but it may be no more than 10 per cent.

Nevertheless, children and young people who know of a living father, but have no contact, or only unhappy contact, with him often experience "ambiguous loss", unresolved grief and a sense that things should be otherwise.

Research also shows that even when children live with a mother and father, fathers are often rather more shadowy figures than mothers, who are more likely to know their children's friends, and with whom children are more likely to discuss problems.

There are lots of contradictions in contemporary parenting that affect the experiences of children and young people. Most parents have a sense of time pressure.

Mothers try to juggle caring for children with paid work and fathers of young children have the longest working hours despite the fact that more men than ever would like to be more involved fathers.

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  • Last Updated: 13 August 2008 10:04 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Youth crime
 
1

Soup kitchen,

14/08/2008 00:04:21
Why are they always "lacking" something? What have we "deprived" them of?

Whatever happened to being factual in reports and problem solving?

The parents are bad, parent scum, child scum. Too many scummy parents in a neighbourhood and even the children of decent people become scum.
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 00:41:07

'AYE', 'RIGHT THEN'!

Any excuse, 'HUH'?

Can I ask the Question?

"YES"!

'OH' thankyou!

Why are you going 'Bonkers' because you don't understand the youth of today, and come up with this complete,...

Twas-wallop!?
3

Boy Wonder,

14/08/2008 01:00:08
Parents are certainly NOT role models to kids. No family members ever are. Kids don't really need rold models ... they just need to be treated properly according to the age they're at! Over 13's are more young adults than kids!
4

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14/08/2008 02:27:56
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5

Scullion,

Canada 14/08/2008 02:29:12
What you grow up with you will always consider normal. This may be something fairly innocuous (chip sandwiches for me which my Canadian kids are still amazed at) or destructive (disdain for work, education and lack of respect for women). If a child has no boundaries or is not directed positively, well, look around you and see the human detritus around you.
To be a father or mother is easy, to be a parent is difficult-much too difficult for some.
6

eric,

LOTHIAN 14/08/2008 07:11:09
NO Debbie harrys ,or Johnny rottens anymore.
Juat Rab c,and vicky pollard,Icons feed the fires!
7

Helmut Smegma,

Edinburgh. 14/08/2008 07:45:09
Gangs are nothing new - remember the Frankie Vaughan "initiative" in Easterhouse in the 1960`s to combat gang warfare?

Publicity stunt for,at the time,a has-been performer.

"Give me the moonlight,give me the girls........."
8

sam the god,

14/08/2008 08:08:23
#4
fair comment especially if you look at the numbers that have been killed in London also discipline went when the stopped corporal punishment at schools the wee darlings think that they can get away with anything and the pc brigade always stand up for the we darlings
9

sam the god,

14/08/2008 08:30:33
#9

There are a large chunk of then that do not know who their father is.
10

Orpheum,

Port Coquitlam. BC 14/08/2008 09:07:31
I have just spent time writingan intelligent comment and obeying all the rules and when I click to Post Comment it is deleted. This happens to me frequently,is intelligent comment not allowed?
11

Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 14/08/2008 09:22:04
#14 - good question.
Look at Charles Linskaill's posts: they're always left on.
Seems that's the way to go.
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12

drunken proffet,

Tassy 14/08/2008 09:46:59
There have always been problem kids in each generation. A couple of thousand years ago they used to stake them out on hillsides for the wild animals. A bit extreme and would do nothing for the tourist trade. However kids without the most basic education and not a chance of a job or a future are really up against it. Parents whose attempts at discipline and encouragement for their children to develop a higher sense of morality and integrity are hampered by well meaning welfare officers who encourage them to find abuse where abuse does not exist. It is a pretty mess.
Not Scotland, Australia 2008
13

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 14/08/2008 10:35:18
15

The reasons - or lack of reasoning - for some posts being removed and others being allowed to remain has always been a consternation to me.

If Charles Linskaill's posts are left on it may be because they are, for the most part, uncontroversial and not insulting, even if he has a unique sense of spelling and punctuation and paragraphing.

It is something we have to accept when we post to these threads at The Scotsman.

14 Orpheum

Maybe one of the moderators pressed the wrong button after reading your post. We are all just fallible human beings but some of the removals do seems to be without logic and whimsical and unfair.
14

sam the god,

14/08/2008 10:36:21
Any of these neds that is on the dole should be made to do a decent days community work for their money at the end on the day they might actually look for a job for themselves and they might be to tired to cause any problems which they would do during the day.

I see that the post ~4 has been removed if the person that complained actually looked at the percentage numbers involved per head of capita then they would understand that #4 wrote is in fact a sensible idea.
15

Mcsnagpile,

14/08/2008 11:23:46
Ah remember Granpaw Shuggie in the bar with the Browning stuck in the duke.-- Goin doon fur a wee joab fur the Krays. The beat Polis came in and asked, how’s the weans Shuggie.
16

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 12:02:57

Excuse me all!

As far as I can see, there is only one post removed, and while having nothing to do with me, common sense would tell you it would be removed as it was racist.
17

sam the god,

14/08/2008 13:09:31
#20 Charles

you may think it was racist but it is based on statistical figures if you look at the number of crimes committed in each ethnic group the percentage figures would have bore out #4 statement so it was actually a factual statement as opposed to racist and should not have been removed but yet again we have a hand wringing screaming PC brigade person that objected because the statement did not sit well with their ideals and as such had it removed so much for the hootsman conforming to ECHR article 9 freedom of thought & 10 freedom of expression
18

MacKenzie,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 13:12:28
According to another story in this paper Gary Glitter's coming back to the UK on his release from Vietnamese prison.

They could all be in his gang.

That'd sort out the little angels.
19

lulach mac gille coemgain,

14/08/2008 13:25:00
Politicians should be considered as role models - err - maybee no’ !
20

lulach mac gille coemgain,

14/08/2008 13:26:08
Labour Party - The MOST DANGEROUS GANG! They wear red like the bloods !
21

Charles Linskaill,

On the go on the mobile 14/08/2008 14:01:56

Sam the god ~21,

While I, in most part agreed with the said comment, at some ungodly time in the morning, I just knew it would be removed.

And 'fact' it maybe, I think one word, found in a paint box caused the problem, you cant 'stereotype' as you will upset people, you have to say it but dont say it, if you know what I mean.
22

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14/08/2008 14:52:11
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23

sam the god,

14/08/2008 16:23:09
#26 vandala,

If true to form some hand wringing screaming PC brigade person will have to remove your comment for using racist overtones.

There you go I have used a full stop just for you.
24

Dave in Toronto,

Toronto, Canada 14/08/2008 18:14:29
No role models? Has Sean Connery lost favor with young Scots?
25

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 14/08/2008 20:12:31
Mixed messages from the Scotsman here. This report says only 9% join gangs. The editorial says that 9% "represents a significant minority".

Oh dear, moralities distort what is a significant minority.

Remember the Scotsman discounting the significant minority of smokers?

So what exactly is a significant majority and when does its opinions begin to count? 9% does not appear significant to me.

More bowdlerdash, I fear.
26

Poetess50,

14/08/2008 21:17:36
The little darlings lack DISCIPLINE. When I was in school, teachers were allowed to swat us with a paddle when we got out of line. I received my fair share of swats with Mrs Wilson's wooden paddle, and it did not "psychologically scar me for life" as the PC Brigade would have us believe. I took my share of swats from a hair brush from Mum & Dad as well, with no ill effect: I have an hons degree from uni, a good job & a nice home, & I firmly believe having those boundaries set as a child was crucial to my becoming a productive & law-abiding member of society. Unfortunately, some idiot decided children had rights, & so discipline in the schools, along with the parent's right to discipline their child became verboten.

In another vein, why does everyone pick on Charles so...he often gives me my best laugh of the day!

 

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